Dwightmare vs MeloDrama vs Decision [Archive] - Message Board Basketball Forum

StateOfMind12

07-10-2012, 08:45 PM

Melo is not good enough or important enough to have any affect on the league so it's really just between Dwightmare and the Decision.

Dwightmare is worse considering how he isn't fulfilling his contract, is only willing to go to one team, and how long this drama/nightmare has been going on. This has been going for about a year now, from the off-season to the season back to the off-season again.

LeBron was a free agent and could do whatever he wanted. He shouldn't be in the conversation.

D12"Magic"

07-10-2012, 08:47 PM

melodrama

it went on during the season and affected the play of nuggets nets and knicks

the decision and dwightmare went on during off season
Im pretty sure the Dwight stuff was going on during the season also.

d.bball.guy

07-10-2012, 08:48 PM

Dwightmare.

Sarcastic

07-10-2012, 08:48 PM

StateOfMind12

07-10-2012, 08:51 PM

How is Dwight not fulfilling his contract?

I doubt LeBron would have signed an extension with the Kings if the Cavs had decided to get the best possible package for him.
He is not trying to consider how he is asking for a trade request. LeBron fulfilled his contract. It's not Lebron's fault that his team's (Cavs) FO was not smart enough to make sure that if he wasn't willing to stay and re-sign with them, they would move him to get something in return opposed to getting nothing.

You can blame the Cavs FO for this disaster, not LeBron.

G-train

07-10-2012, 08:54 PM

The Decision by far. Lebron went from one of the most loved athletes to the most hated in one fell swoop. Cleveland collectively burned his jerseys in effigy.

Get out, he was a free agent and had a TV show that raised $1m or something. Go tug a monkey doodle.

Howard/Melo crap is worse. Lebron was already being hated on for garbage. Lebron made fulfilling a contract and leaving as a FA bad, which all of a sudden made demanding a trade good, because it gave your team options. Total garbage.

DirtySanchez

07-10-2012, 08:56 PM

Decision and it's primetime special can not be topped!

G-train

07-10-2012, 08:57 PM

Lebron didn't have to inform them of anything.
What would the heat have given them in a sign and trade?

OH WAIT! They did do a sign and trade.

Did anyone consider that he may have been still considering if he wanted to stay?

Haters gon hate though.

Kblaze8855

07-10-2012, 09:00 PM

The shit with Dwight is the worst by a mile. Lebron had a TV show I saw 10 minutes of and heard his decision.

Dwight is in 2 years of trade demands, coach firing requests(he admitted he did it last year but not in 2012), will he wont he trade deadlines, signing the no opt out thing then demanding a trade anyway...dude talking suing the magic over it? Stories coming out on him fighting his teammates? hedo and others coming out saying they were on Stans side and Stan airing Dwight out about getting him fired?

Its been crazy...and annoying as hell. Bron was like a month of of questions and rumors after a year of "If they dont win it...will he stay?" talk.

But it was nothing like this. Melo wasnt this bad either.

raprap

07-10-2012, 09:00 PM

Dwightmare! That's a legit nickname right there :applause:

PickernRoller

07-10-2012, 09:06 PM

The decision hands down. Ask a non-basketball fan about Dwight's melodrama and 95% would have no idea what's going on....Lebron James is synonymous to "the decision".. plain and simple. People easily choose to forget the real drama back in 10' ---all in light of current events. Dwight's drama is on par if not above Melo's.

StateOfMind12

07-10-2012, 09:08 PM

The decision hands down. Ask a non-basketball fan about Dwight's melodrama and 95% would have no idea what's going on....Lebron James is synonymous to "the decision".. plain and simple.
I think this just goes to show you how much better LeBron is than those two since LeBron is actually known by everybody from a person who watches like 10 NBA games a year to an avid NBA fan.

The only player who has received more hate or as much hate as LeBron James receives in NBA history is probably Kobe Bryant. Both of whom are all-time NBA greats and were the best players or arguably the best player for a good amount of seasons.

PickernRoller

07-10-2012, 09:10 PM

I think this just goes to show you how much better LeBron is than those two since LeBron is actually known by everybody from a person who watches like 10 NBA games a year to an avid NBA fan.

The only player who has received more hate or as much hate as LeBron James receives in NBA history is probably Kobe Bryant. Both of whom are all-time NBA greats and were the best players or arguably the best player for a good amount of seasons.

Lebron is the better player and because he's so, the league as well as other parties have marketed and still market him to death. Watching ESPN is like watching a Lebron commercial all day long...

Derrick

07-10-2012, 09:13 PM

1. The Decision. The backlash of this was horrible.
2. Dwightmare. Prolonged too long, made Dwight look like douche.
3. Melo, not as bad as either, Denver got some good pieces and are still a playoff team.

swag2011

07-10-2012, 09:18 PM

The Decision. Then Dwight stuff. Then melo stuff.

Lebron went from most loved, could do no wrong, to completely hated. In ways it did help expand his name out more. He was already popular, but this sorta made him blow up. He was the laughing stock of jokes and still is in some ways. Dumb Dumb Dumb move. Then his stupid ass PR team tried to clean it up and give the money to boys and girls club, ONLY b/c of the backlash, they were keeping that shit for themselves. But ESPN has helped tried to rebrand his image now that he's won, so this whole last season has been nothing but a lebron jerk fest, and pauk is enjoying himself.

Dwight would be 2nd. Reason he or Lebron isn't 1st is b/c they aren't superstars like Lebron. to me, there's only 2 real superstars in the league, Kobe and Lebron. both are household names, both are known worldwide, with kobe being known a lil more internationally. Dwight and Melo are just like there.

noosaman

07-10-2012, 09:21 PM

The Decision by far. Lebron went from one of the most loved athletes to the most hated in one fell swoop. Cleveland collectively burned his jerseys in effigy.

I thought pretty much everyone hated lefraud back then too because of his personality and lack of heart. he went out in absolutely humiliating fashion vs the Celtics.

it's only recently since the nike/jew led pr marketing scheme that people have begun to like lefraud.

Derka

07-10-2012, 09:41 PM

The Decision, easily. We'll never see a single moment like that again.

When Dwight leaves, Orlando will be glad to be rid of him. When Lebron left, Cleveland still wanted him to stay...afterwards, an entire state burned him in effigy and put f*cking voodoo curses on him and other ridiculous crap.

NOHCP3

07-10-2012, 09:42 PM

Hard to compare a moment verus holding a team hostage for 2 years... Smh

Also have to remember as much as Lebron's "image" was tarnished post decision, look at Dwight's image now. Behind the scenes it seems like people knew about Lebron's entourage, demands, larger than life lifestyle... Dwight was the exact opposite for years. Wholesome, Christian, didn't he say he was a virgin or some sh*t? Heard he wanted a cross on the NBA logo when he was drafted on OTL today. Now look @ him. Superman is now folding his arms into the top 5 hated.

Eat Like A Bosh

07-10-2012, 09:51 PM

Dwightmare easily trumps LeBron's decision. At least LeBron wasn't crying like a lil baby asking out, he played out his contract, got Cleveland a couple years of glory(an NBA Finals and 2 ECFs, 2 straight years with the best record in the league) and then proceeded to shit on their faces.

Dwight has been holding the franchise on hostage, making the franchise making moves just to appease him while getting no insurance for D12 staying. He couldn't even make his mind up, saying he was staying once and then said he was leaving couple days later. In the end I can't believe he signed the opt out waiver anyways, while everyone knew he was gone sooner or later. And then he demanded to be traded to the Nets only, and made rumors about "The Magic Blackmailing him".

Melo's wasn't that bad, he wanted New York, and he got it. He sticked with his decision and went through with it. Jokes on him how Denver was somehow a better team after the trade. He'd probably feel stupid now after this.

Indecision > the Decision (In terms of torturing a franchise)

RicksPlace

07-10-2012, 09:51 PM

The 3 of them are very inmature, but Dwight took it to another level.

KyrieTheFuture

07-10-2012, 09:56 PM

The 3 of them are very inmature, but Dwight took it to another level.

:biggums:

JustinJDW

07-10-2012, 10:00 PM

The Decision, easily. Completely changed the game. MVP and best player in the world abandoning his 60+ win team to tag with the 2nd best player in the world? And he did it on prime time national television? Free agency with superstars will never be the same again, and we'll forever be talking about Lebron, D-Wade, Bosh and the Heat tagging up even twenty years after they're both long retired and into the Hall of Fame.

Not to mention it literally damaged an entire city's economy and completely embarrassed the entire population on a national scale.

NuggetsFan

07-10-2012, 10:05 PM

It's hard to compare them. LeBron did his as a FA. Not to downplay it but his didn't effect team chemistry or anything. Carmelo pretty much ruined Denver's chemistry. Dwight's is the worst in my mind. He's carrying on far more than Melo and dragging things out. Carmelo atleast entertained the idea or other teams and pretty much helped Denver force NY to give the farm.

Dwight
Carmelo
LeBron

Technically for me. However I think you can make a case for LeBron over both Carmelo and Dwight because of the fact he really started superstar team up. After him the domino's kinda fell. Plus the decision was just so gross. The season was done, played out his contract etc. make it last for me. I wouldn't argue if anyone had it number 1.

LA_Showtime

07-10-2012, 10:08 PM

The Decision. Like it or not it changed the game. Superstars are now teaming up and parity is becoming even worse.

DuMa

07-11-2012, 12:43 AM

Dwightmare is getting on my nerves.

D-Rose

07-11-2012, 12:44 AM

Dwightmare has been the worst by far.

StateOfMind12

07-11-2012, 12:45 AM

Why are people blaming LeBron for the creation of big 3s and the contraction of the league?

It was the Boston's Big Three that truly started it all because LeBron, Wade, and Bosh only got together to take out that big three because none of them specifically Lebron could ever get past them in the post-season.

Freedom Kid7

07-11-2012, 12:58 AM

The Decision was bad. Really bad. It was narcissistic beyond all means, and he made a questionable move look very bad. I think the stupid celebration party was a bit worse than The Decision, but both were bad. However, it was all done in a matter of days and it did not affect LeBron's play majorly (except the Boston series near the end). However, LeBron apologized, it's done, and I think he's grown up at this point. Mike Brown was fired, but that wasn't all his doing.

I don't remember MeloDrama all that much. He may have been a bitch, but he didn't leave Denver in shambles and they are still a playoff team like before. He didn't get anyone fired. It may have dragged on too long though.

Dwightmare just makes me mad. He's single-handedly gotten the coach fired, gotten rid of Smith, and made Orlando a huge mess without much hope. His 'plans' or whatever the hell it is affected his heart and play, and it seemed to affected his teammates. He also threw a monkey wrench in the Orlando Team Chemistry as a whole. The media circus to this makes it worse. At least for The Decision, there wasn't that much drama leading up to it. All this drama about Dwight is ridiculous. He's screwed up a team and done it in a really childish manner.

So, nevertheless, MeloDrama was the least of three evils. Denver and NY are both playoff teams, and Denver is arguably better now.

The Decision was in the middle. The welcome party was far worse than the actual The Decision, but that's just me. He may have screwed over Cleveland, but Gilbert screwed over LeBron for years. And now, LeBron has at least apologized for it.

Dwightmare is the worst. He's screwed up his team and created a media circus that is baffling.

Kews1

07-11-2012, 12:59 AM

Dwightmare>Decision>MeloDrama

Pra

07-11-2012, 01:15 AM

Dwightmare>Decision>MeloDrama

This

LAClipsFan33

07-11-2012, 01:16 AM

The Decision was the most impactful

Dwightmare is the most annoying and bitch made

I LUV KOBE

07-11-2012, 01:31 AM

Decision by far and not even close.. The most douche move by a superstar.. :lol

MisterAmazing

07-11-2012, 01:33 AM

decision
dwightmare
melodrama

:banana: :banana:

ripthekik

07-11-2012, 01:58 AM

Decision.

Dwight's only blown up because of the media. Without the media reporting his every single move, it wouldn't be such a big deal.

Lebron's was by choice. Not to mention he followed it up with that we gona win not 2, not 3, ...7, 8 etc

Knicksfever2010

07-11-2012, 02:14 AM

Dwightmare. Decision was one show(a bad decision). Melodrama ended with Nuggets getting a good haul in return and have been succesful post Melo. Dwight screwed himself and the Orginization.

a good haul? gallo STINKS, and cant make an open layup. is wilson chandler even on the nuggets roster? mozgov is OK but he has TERRIBLE HANDS and can't catch a cold. felton is long gone.

*not sure what you mean by a 'good haul'

Shepseskaf

07-11-2012, 07:40 AM

which was worse debacle of NBA SuperStar movement?
It depends on what you mean by "worse". By public reaction, The Decision is at the top of the list, simply because so many more people know who LBJ is.

By the actions taken, Dwightmare is the clear winner. However, not many non-fans outside of Orlando know much about it, or care.

Melodrama was strictly a local phenomenon. Nationally, it was a snoozer.

ukballer

07-11-2012, 07:55 AM

MeloDrama. More at how tedious it was, because we knew exactly where he wanted to end up, and where he was going to end up, and it was just so drawn out, it got incredibly boring to me.

Dwightmare is bordering on that now, but at least right now there is still some uncertainty as to where he'll end up. Even when he leaves Orlando, it depends where he ends up whether Dwightmare finally ends, or whether it just gets postponed for another year.

Magic731

07-11-2012, 08:03 AM

As far as the backlash which was received by the three athletes, the decision was the worst. The whole "decision" alone made people worldwide hate LeBron James. It was also criticised by the media far worse than MeloDrama was or the Dwightmare has been.

In my personal opinion, the Dwightmare is the worst. It has simply been going on for way too long now, and Dwight Howard can't seem to make up his mind. First he wants out of Orlando, then he decides to opt in. Then he wants out again and only wants to sign with the Nets, before we hear reports that he is now willing to sign with the Lakers as well? Not to mention but Dwight has come off sounding like a huge diva and someone who will throw a tantrum any minute if he doesn't get his way. While the decision was bad and many disagree with his teaming up of the big 3, he was a free agent, had every right to go wherever he wanted and you just can't look past the fact that he donated money from the decision to charity.

As for MeloDrama... Who really cares?

SilkkTheShocker

07-11-2012, 08:16 AM

Lebron finished out his contract and left. The Decision was stupid, but the Dwightmare and MeloDrama were huge regular season distractions. Lebron leaving was brought up a lot in Cleveland, but they were winning 60+ games the last two seasons. Dwight and Melo both wanted out before mid-season

Segatti

07-11-2012, 08:23 AM

Melo left Denver with a solid core.
Dwight will leave Magic with young assets.
Lebron left Cavs with shit.

DirtySanchez

07-11-2012, 08:31 AM

Melo left Denver with a solid core.
Dwight will leave Magic with young assets.
Lebron left Cavs with shit.

A team that wins 60 plus is not sh.t

they had good role players around LeBron.

LikeABosh

07-11-2012, 08:33 AM

Dwight has been doing this shit for 2 years. Demanding trades, flip flopping on where he wants to go, getting coaches fired. It's a mess.

LikeABosh

07-11-2012, 08:34 AM

Melo left Denver with a solid core.
Dwight will leave Magic with young assets.
Lebron left Cavs with shit.

Lebron wasn't the GM of the Cavs. sorry

LEFT4DEAD

07-11-2012, 08:47 AM

A team that wins 60 plus is not sh.t

they had good role players around LeBron.
Dont act like Mo fcking Williams was not the best teammate Lebron had in 7 years in Cleveland. Their season of 19-63 after Lebron went tells how shitty they were. There is no player who would have stayed on that team. I wonder why Lebron has not asked for trade or smt like that.
"Good role players" are surely not enough to keep "once in 20 years talent" like Lebron.

SilkkTheShocker

07-11-2012, 08:54 AM

A team that wins 60 plus is not sh.t

they had good role players around LeBron.

Those role players usually played like trash in the playoffs.

2010splash

07-11-2012, 08:58 AM

Joke of a question. Dwight is the biggest whiner/crybaby douche ever. LeBron played out every year of his contract that was required of him without a single peep or mention of frustration with what was obviously a pathetic front office. Never once heard a mention of LeBron being a bad teammate or future free agency affecting the team locker room/games etc.

Melo was kind of bad, at least worse than LeBron, but not Dwight bad.

Dwight goes from having a "list" of 3 teams to then eliminating 2 of those "list teams" and b*tching to be traded to the one team that has no assets/cap space (therefore being a useless trade partner from Orlando's perspective), all months after, by his own will, choosing to opt into his contract which would require him playing an extra year for the Magic. The dude opts in, apologizes to fans, talks about loyalty and then literally 3 months later cries for a trade when he could have just left without all the commotion if he had not opted in.

Rolando

07-11-2012, 09:09 AM

The dude opts in, apologizes to fans, talks about loyalty and then literally 3 months later cries for a trade when he could have just left without all the commotion if he had not opted in.

This.

It seemed like he made a deal that he would stay if they fired SVG. That's what happened but now he still wants to leave. The guy is a moron.

coin24

07-11-2012, 09:35 AM

Melo actually did good by the Nuggets... They got a ton of talent back..

LeBron was in a different situation, lets not get into the decision etc, he played out his contract and moved on. Didnt owe the Cavs any more than that, he wasnt the fu*king GM:facepalm

Dwight:facepalm :facepalm What an idiot. Probably couldnt have handled this any worse if he tried!!!

kmartshopper

07-11-2012, 09:45 AM

I enjoy them all equally

guy

07-11-2012, 09:56 AM

2LeTTeRS

07-11-2012, 10:00 AM

I don't really think what Melo did was bad. He didn't want to stay in Denver, Denver wanted to know before they couldn't trade him, and Melo wasn't willing to committ to an extension to anywhere but New York and no team would trade for him if it wasn't for that. What exactly was he supposed to do? He tried to keep it as private as possible, and he didn't go back and forth and tell the fans he loved Denver the way Lebron said he loved Cleveland and Howard said he loved Orlando. He didn't seem to care about what fans would think unlike Howard. Really, given what Melo wanted, I don't see how he could've acted any different in that situation.

I completely agree with you. Players are allowed to leave when their contracts are up and should not be penalized for being truthful with a team when it presses him to make a commitment that he is not contractually obligated to make.

And to answer the OP's question the worst by far is the Dwight situation. Everyday I log on here just hoping he gets traded soon so we can talk about something else.

guy

07-11-2012, 10:05 AM

I completely agree with you. Players are allowed to leave when their contracts are up and should not be penalized for being truthful with a team when it presses him to make a commitment that he is not contractually obligated to make.

And to answer the OP's question the worst by far is the Dwight situation. Everyday I log on here just hoping he gets traded soon so we can talk about something else.

Yea exactly. I thought it was funny when people would criticize him that he was "forcing" his way too New York and making it so hard for Denver to make the best trade possible because he wouldn't promise an extension with any other team. Well, what did they expect him to do? Committ the next 4 years of his life to a team and city he didn't want to go to?

Lebron and Howard deserve criticism cause the Decision show was just completely unnecessary and Howard's opting in was a complete dumbass move that dragged this story alot longer then it needed to be.

Sarcastic

07-11-2012, 10:12 AM

Dwight's situation is Orlando's fault. He's told them that he doesn't want to be there anymore, and they can't accept it. They keep begging him to stay, even demanding that he opt into his final year, or else they will trade him somewhere that he doesn't want to go.

Athletes don't owe teams their entire lives. They owe the teams the time specified by the contract. It seems to only be in basketball where teams throw absolute shit fits when a player's contract is up and he wants to leave. St Louis didn't threaten to trade Albert Pujols to KC in his last year. They got the most out of him, and won a World Series in his final year there.