Sons of Anarchy season 5

[ConanRulesNBC]

We're only about two months away (less than actually... I think September 4th or 5th). I can't freakin' wait. TV this summer had sucked ass. Give me SoA and Boardwalk Empire.

Anyways, there's been a lot of awesome additions to the cast this season. I can't wait to see how it all plays out with Jax, Opie, Clay, Tara, Unser and Gemma all pretending to get along in front of the rest of the club.

Post news, pictures, links to videos here.

[Kobe Jnr]

Going to be weird seeing Jax as the boss, and Clay, being the vp. Not sure how thats going to work out. Always liked Clay as the boss. We'll see how Jax handles it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cF7NFBMlk_I

here's a teaser for season 5. no plot info or anything..

[ConanRulesNBC]

Yeah these next 3 seasons (Sutter wants to do 7 total) are going to be different with Clay as VP and Jax as President. I'm just glad that Clay survived season 4. I think he absolutely needs to go down but I hope it's near the end of the series. Ron Perlman is too good of an actor not to have on the show.

[Godzuki]

i love this show. to me its right there with Breaking Bad, if only it didn't take so long for the new season i'd be more hyped. i was so addicted after i marathoned it :bowdown:

[Andrei89]

Can't wait!!!

Hope they don't kill off Clay. Ron Perlman is awesome.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

i downloaded season 1, through the first 4 episodes. how do they get away with saying fck on fx?

[BankShot]

I've never seen a minute of Sons of Anarchy.... but I've heard good things about it.

Anyone want to give me a short synopsis of the show and why you'd recommend it to someone who could go for a new non-comedic TV series?

[Myth]

I've never seen a minute of Sons of Anarchy.... but I've heard good things about it.

Anyone want to give me a short synopsis of the show and why you'd recommend it to someone who could go for a new non-comedic TV series?

You should watch it because it is awesome. Show starts off with a motorcycle club that transports guns. The main character is the VP of the club and the son of one of the founding members who died under suspicious circumstances. The VP's mother re-married another man who is now the president of the club. The club has to deal with other biker clubs and gangs, while also having to do deal with legal issues along the way, all while dealing with internal club shit (including the history of the VP's father). The show gets really intense like several of the other modern dramas (e.g., Breaking Bad). I think the first 2-3 episodes were very boring, but stick with it and it doesn't take very long to get very good. Not a ton of humor to the show like Breaking Bad has, but the payoff overall is very rewarding, especially come the end of each season.

Btw, season 5 started off very interesting.

[dunksby]

The became ridiculously stupid since they left for Ireland. I watched the premiere the other night to see if it had become any better but it was the same bullshit.

[heavensdevil]

season 5 premiere was epic... maybe the best ever.

[sunsfan1357]

I like the introduction of Perrineu into the show. Not sure about the other character. He just slept with Gemma and now he's harboring fugitives when he's already in a shady business?

[FatComputerNerd]

Man, I thought episode 2 was so good.

No spoilers but loved when Opie showed up to get himself arrested w/ the club toward the end of the episode...almost had me in tears.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Already thru 2 seasons and this show is 5x better than Breaking Bad. Mind you Breaking Bad was my fav before starting SOA. I was just wondering, and mind you I am only thru the first 2 seasons of SOA, but does Jaxx annoy the fck out of anybody else?

[Patrick Chewing]

Already thru 2 seasons and this show is 5x better than Breaking Bad. Mind you Breaking Bad was my fav before starting SOA. I was just wondering, and mind you I am only thru the first 2 seasons of SOA, but does Jaxx annoy the fck out of anybody else?

No, but Juice sure as hell will. If it were up to me, I'da killed off Juice and the Fat prospect that they just made an official member.

[FatComputerNerd]

No, but Juice sure as hell will. If it were up to me, I'da killed off Juice and the Fat prospect that they just made an official member.

Don't spoil it for him!

[Riddler]

I can't believe how ruthless and brutal the characters are in this show...

:wtf:


Unable to watch... too disturbing.



but let me ask this question though:


Is the CIA working with somebody in one of the episodes?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/aug/11/was-cia-behind-operation-fast-and-furious/
Was CIA behind Operation Fast and Furious?


good read^

[Day La Ghetto]

I'm really lost,the last I watched of this show was was the Ireland season with jaxx finally giving up his kid. What's happened since because I don't have a clue trying to wath it now,anyone give me some cliff notes since? Thanks

[Day La Ghetto]

Also i love breaking bad and soa ,anyone that likes these 2 shows have any suggestions for any other shows?

[heavensdevil]

Also i love breaking bad and soa ,anyone that likes these 2 shows have any suggestions for any other shows?


Boardwalk Empire

[niko]

I can't believe how ruthless and brutal the characters are in this show...

:wtf:


Unable to watch... too disturbing.



but let me ask this question though:


Is the CIA working with somebody in one of the episodes?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/aug/11/was-cia-behind-operation-fast-and-furious/
Was CIA behind Operation Fast and Furious?


good read^

Don't be a jerk and post this shit in this thread. This isn't a bullshit conspiracy thread, it SOA thread. There are 100 conspiracy threads on the board, go argue there.

[Patrick Chewing]

I'm really lost,the last I watched of this show was was the Ireland season with jaxx finally giving up his kid. What's happened since because I don't have a clue trying to wath it now,anyone give me some cliff notes since? Thanks


To sum it up: Change of leadership and a lot more killing

And that's not just for the Sons, but for everyone involved in that show (Law enforcement, other MC's)

[magictricked]

I'm really lost,the last I watched of this show was was the Ireland season with jaxx finally giving up his kid. What's happened since because I don't have a clue trying to wath it now,anyone give me some cliff notes since? ThanksThey got involved with moving guns for drugs with a Cartel. Clay wanted to go for the big $core, most the main MC members were against it, Clay got in over his head also tried to cover up past indiscretions by killing people and pointing the finger of blame for the killing at others, things went upside down, Jax is now pres.

[Myth]

Already thru 2 seasons and this show is 5x better than Breaking Bad. Mind you Breaking Bad was my fav before starting SOA. I was just wondering, and mind you I am only thru the first 2 seasons of SOA, but does Jaxx annoy the fck out of anybody else?

Completely disagree. I love SOA, but BB is on a whole other level. SOA does have the balance that BB does. The seasons start out slower, they have significantly less character development, and there is less humor to keep us entertained during slow moments. Plus, the story writing is just not as tight knit. I'm thinking by season 3 (if I am thinking of the right season of SOA), you may start to agree. Luckily the show gets back on track after a down season.

[Myth]

Also i love breaking bad and soa ,anyone that likes these 2 shows have any suggestions for any other shows?

Hell on Wheels and Luther.

[Jailblazers7]

Completely disagree. I love SOA, but BB is on a whole other level. SOA does have the balance that BB does. The seasons start out slower, they have significantly less character development, and there is less humor to keep us entertained during slow moments. Plus, the story writing is just not as tight knit. I'm thinking by season 3 (if I am thinking of the right season of SOA), you may start to agree. Luckily the show gets back on track after a down season.

Season 3 of SOA was pretty much saved by the ending. I think I liked it more than most people but it was the weakest season so far.

[Myth]

Season 3 of SOA was pretty much saved by the ending. I think I liked it more than most people but it was the weakest season so far.

Yeah. It easily had the best finale, but the first 3/4 of the season was pretty bad IMO.

By the way, does anybody else hope the neo-Nazi guy comes back regrouped while the Sons battle the blacks? The leader told his daughter his plan was to come back after a few years, which I believe it had been several years in the timeline.

[Jailblazers7]

Yeah. It easily had the best finale, but the first 3/4 of the season was pretty bad IMO.

By the way, does anybody else hope the neo-Nazi guy comes back regrouped while the Sons battle the blacks? The leader told his daughter his plan was to come back after a few years, which I believe it had been several years in the timeline.

Shit, I'm totally lost as far as the timeline goes. It would be interesting to see him back in the fold but I like Pope a lot. Him torching Tig's daughter was brutal. Dude is like Nino Brown lol.

[Myth]

Shit, I'm totally lost as far as the timeline goes. It would be interesting to see him back in the fold but I like Pope a lot. Him torching Tig's daughter was brutal. Dude is like Nino Brown lol.

I'm lost too, but there was a good chunk of time in Ireland and then there was a full year that we did not even see. But the easiest way of gauging time is probably by looking at Jax's kids. His first child was born episode 1 I believe, and that kid looks like he is 4 years old or so now. That same kid was still a pretty young baby when he was kidnapped, which was the last time we saw the Nazi guy, so it has been about 3 years since he left.

[Patrick Chewing]

Oh shit..... http://www.inquisitr.com/339445/sons-of-anarchy-actress-talks-season-5-major-character-dies-next-week-rumor/

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

:bowdown:

http://img2-3.timeinc.net/ew/i/2012/10/09/sons-of-anarchy-guest.jpg

[InspiredLebowski]

:bowdown:

http://img2-3.timeinc.net/ew/i/2012/10/09/sons-of-anarchy-guest.jpgGoggins produced the best moment in the history of this show. I don't know if it'd count but he better put it on his Emmy reel.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

My mind was blown. A cameo from Tommy Merlotte too :bowdown: . Other than that, I thought it was a weak episode. The sheriff's wife getting shot and them 2 appearing saved it for me tho.

[InspiredLebowski]

At least they didn't have some dumbass GTA chase scene with shitty music playing over it

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Welp, I'm really fcking bored right now. Normally, I'd be watching episodes of Sons at this hour, but I'm all caught up. Today was actually the first time I got to watch it "live". So, naturally I'm just looking up a bunch of sht relating to SOA. I'll share.

http://your-daily-girl.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Ave-Zoli-760x1024.jpg

see her naked here (http://your-daily-girl.com/2011/04/winter-ave-zoli-naked-in-playboy/)

Here's Opie in Saved by the Bell

http://cdn.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/tumblr_m08ey8G7G21qgjvrso2_400.jpeg

Here is Chibbs in Braveheart and Gladiator

http://cdn.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/16gzzpg.jpeg

http://www.hotflick.net/flicks/2000_Gladiator/000GLD_Tommy_Flanagan_002.jpg

The scars are real. He got them from some ruthless thugs outside a bar where he DJ'ed.

Anyone notice Juice's weight loss? I was worried he got the "big c" or something. Fortunately he's just appearing in a movie titled, Meth Heads. Guess that explains it.

Here is Ron Pearlman in Miami Vice and Beauty & the Beast

http://www.miamivice.info/screenshots/walk_perlman.jpg

http://www.beyondhollywood.com/uploads/2012/02/Ron-Perlman-in-Beauty-and-the-Beast.jpg

Bobby Munson started out in the business as a stand-up comedian with his close friend, Steve Buscemi. Here's a vid

http://www.uproxx.com/tv/2012/09/20-things-about-cast-sons-of-anarchy-that-you-didnt-know/4/

http://sharetv.org/images/sons_of_anarchy/cast/large/kid_half_sack_epps.jpg

Half-Sack just commited suicide after killing his landlord.
(http://www.eonline.com/news/352670/sons-of-anarchy-s-johnny-lewis-cremated-buried-at-sea)

http://images.buddytv.com/btv_2_600054133_1_434_593_0_/chuck-zito-photos.jpg

This new member of the cast actually tried suing FX not long ago claiming he came to them with the idea for Sons of Anarchy. Supposedly he used to be president of the Hells Angels motorcycle gang. My Uncle is actually doing a life bid for these guys, but that's another story.

[dunksby]

Overall not a bad episode, besides the ridiculous scene where we learn that destroying somebody's face with your seriously injured hand helps decrease its swelling.

[Thorpesaurous]

That guy was a Hells Angels president of the NYC chapter. His name is Chuck Zito. He used to be on Howard Stern all the time. And he was a regular at Scores to the point where they used to joke that he could get things there for dinner that weren't on the menu. Howard used to say Scores had the best steak in NYC, but only if you went with Chuck.

He also made tabloids when he allegedly beat the hell out of Jean Claude Van Damme outside of some club, which you may or may not believe. My father is not a rider, but he is a great bike builder, and friends with a great many Hells Angels, mostly in CT, but a lot from NY too, and he's met Zito on more than one occasion.


I'm always intrigued when actors have real scars and they're forced to put their existence into the stories. Chibbs' allegedly came from that IRA guy over his wife and daughter IIRC.

[Myth]

He also made tabloids when he allegedly beat the hell out of Jean Claude Van Damme outside of some club, which you may or may not believe.

I believe it. JCVD is a fairly small dude who knows movie martial arts that is not effective for actual fighting. Essentially, he is a gymnast.

Opie was also the big dumb guy (Lump) in The Ladykillers.

[statman32]

That guy was a Hells Angels president of the NYC chapter. His name is Chuck Zito. He used to be on Howard Stern all the time. And he was a regular at Scores to the point where they used to joke that he could get things there for dinner that weren't on the menu. Howard used to say Scores had the best steak in NYC, but only if you went with Chuck.

He also made tabloids when he allegedly beat the hell out of Jean Claude Van Damme outside of some club, which you may or may not believe. My father is not a rider, but he is a great bike builder, and friends with a great many Hells Angels, mostly in CT, but a lot from NY too, and he's met Zito on more than one occasion.



Interesting. Never knew any of that. I just thought of him as the Italian mobster from OZ.

[Thorpesaurous]

I believe it. JCVD is a fairly small dude who knows movie martial arts that is not effective for actual fighting. Essentially, he is a gymnast.

Opie was also the big dumb guy (Lump) in The Ladykillers.


I believe JCVD was a world champion kickboxer, so even at a size disadvantage, I'd think he'd be able to hold his own. And Zito isn't huge. He's a big guy, probably uses steroids, but it's not like he's a 6-6 monster. It's also possible that VD was inebriated.

I know Opie mostly as Gary Bertier, the sort of racist white kid who overcomes his racism because of his love for football in Remember The Titans, only to get cripled in a car accident before the big game.

[Myth]

I believe JCVD was a world champion kickboxer, so even at a size disadvantage, I'd think he'd be able to hold his own. And Zito isn't huge. He's a big guy, probably uses steroids, but it's not like he's a 6-6 monster. It's also possible that VD was inebriated.


Ah, wasn't aware of that. Still, that was probably a long time ago when he trained for actual fighting. He isn't exactly youthful anymore (and maybe drunk at the time as you said). When did that guy beat him up?

[niko]

Ah, wasn't aware of that. Still, that was probably a long time ago when he trained for actual fighting. He isn't exactly youthful anymore (and maybe drunk at the time as you said). When did that guy beat him up?
The problem is a fight is usually something that breaks out quickly in a small space, rather than somethign set up. I doubt Van Dam would see it coming, be ready, and then a fight would begin. More likely the guy just grabbed him.

[Myth]

The problem is a fight is usually something that breaks out quickly in a small space, rather than somethign set up. I doubt Van Dam would see it coming, be ready, and then a fight would begin. More likely the guy just grabbed him.

Also, it is not regulated by rules like kickboxing.

[Thorpesaurous]

All that is perfectly reasonable. Could be he figured it was better to take a couple shots from this guy than to hit him and wind up dealing with a ton of other bikers, who knows. Frankly the story is something of an urban legend mostly run out by Howard Stern.

Here's a set of links about it. Just sifting through, you can read he was drunk, he was sucker punched, and any other variety of versions of it. But there's enough out there to believe that something happened.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=chuck+zito+van+damme&gbv=2&oq=Chuck+Ziton+&gs_l=heirloom-hp.1.2.0i13l10.1125.4297.0.8078.14.10.1.3.3.0.344. 1642.0j9j0j1.10.0...0.0...1c.1.rZvPB1xSjUs

[niko]

Also, it is not regulated by rules like kickboxing.
My one jail (brief) stay was because this 18 years old who was a good 6/7 inches taller than me wouldn't leave alone one of my students (a 10 yr old who was slow). He was willing to "fight" me. Our "fight" consisted of me hitting him from behind with a pipe once and watching him bleed on the ground.

"Fights" don't show who is tougher.

[Myth]

My one jail (brief) stay was because this 18 years old who was a good 6/7 inches taller than me wouldn't leave alone one of my students (a 10 yr old who was slow). He was willing to "fight" me. Our "fight" consisted of me hitting him from behind with a pipe once and watching him bleed on the ground.

"Fights" don't show who is tougher.

:wtf:

[niko]

:wtf:
He was a teenager beating up a little kid who was mentally slow. I asked him to stop and he wouldn't. And he was pretty much going to beat me up too, which mean the little kid would keep getting beat up.

So i hit him. In retrospect, i got off easy but no, it wasn't the best decision. (Everyone refused to say they saw me hit him and i have no record so i got let off with no charges filed.)

[InspiredLebowski]

two *****

http://i.cubeupload.com/Pv3G57.gif

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Did they ever reveal why Tig and Kozik had a beef? After a quick Google search, I found something about a dog. But I can't find any more details.:confusedshrug:

[Andrei89]

Did they ever reveal why Tig and Kozik had a beef? After a quick Google search, I found something about a dog. But I can't find any more details.:confusedshrug:
A dog. They both had a dog who the loved very much. Kozik killed it by mistake.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

I really need to find a new show to marathon. Anyways, a lot of people are speculating that Clay is responsible for the break-ins. They said it was pretty obvious after this past week. I don't buy it tho. How much sh!t can this guy possibly get into before he's off'd?

[InspiredLebowski]

I really need to find a new show to marathon. Anyways, a lot of people are speculating that Clay is responsible for the break-ins. They said it was pretty obvious after this past week. I don't buy it tho. How much sh!t can this guy possibly get into before he's off'd?On this dumbass show? A ton.

[Myth]

I really need to find a new show to marathon. Anyways, a lot of people are speculating that Clay is responsible for the break-ins. They said it was pretty obvious after this past week. I don't buy it tho. How much sh!t can this guy possibly get into before he's off'd?

I speculated that too, and it is still my best guess. Although, I'd love to see that it is the return of the neo-Nazis. Their leader survived, so that still feels incomplete.

[Thorpesaurous]

I'm gonna throw a complete spitball theory on the breakins out there. Somehow Tommy Merlotte of True Blood is in on them.

I say that with no real evidence, other than the fact that this show doesn't have a particularly expansive universe, meaning that pretty much everyone in the show is in it for a reason. There aren't a ton of just innocent set dressing type characters. Christ even the Hospital Chief woman got dragged into a story arc last year and has a huge tattoo on her back.
It strikes me as odd that an actor of at least some small amount of consequence (and Tommy Merlotte is pretty small, but still), just strolls in off the street for what was essentially a goof scene for a laugh. And now that have this blackmail info on him too, which they can use down the road, which seems like it should come into play. I just can't see the arc being as concise as his walking in on their setting up his step father to blackmail, followed by the kid being set up for blackmail off screen in the next commercial break, just to keep his mouth shut, and that's the end of it. What's the point of even having him walk in for a 20 minute story arc that begins and ends in the same room, you might as well have just not included him, except to make an extra dick joke or two. Something more has to happen.
The kid is obviously a bit into the criminal scene with his MC fanboy persona. Why he'd be robbing them specifically I don't know, but something is going on with him.

Also, I can see them using this as a means to get tight with the sheriff. I know right now he still blames them, but the story of "legal justice" not being able to resolve this, but them knowing who it is, and the Son's offering up the cop real satisfaction, and they he is somewhat in their debt after that. They played a similar story with the rich guy who's plane they used to smuggle themselves to Ireland (man this show is a convoluted mess ... it's still fun though).

[niko]

I think the three new guys just want to take over the main chapter of the Sons, and then bring in their own guys. Discredit the sons, take over, make things right, bring in their own guys.

[Thorpesaurous]

I think the three new guys just want to take over the main chapter of the Sons, and then bring in their own guys. Discredit the sons, take over, make things right, bring in their own guys.


You think it's the new guys behind the break ins. That'd be interesting.

[niko]

You think it's the new guys behind the break ins. That'd be interesting.
I thought we knew that, from their voices and from one of them having a fake leg. OR i might just be creating stuff in my mind.

[Patrick Chewing]

I'm still pissed that fat bastard goofball of a prospect got patched in and is sitting at the table. This is Sutter's way of pissing off the fans knowing that we'll still watch the show just the same.

[Twiens]

I thought we knew that, from their voices and from one of them having a fake leg. OR i might just be creating stuff in my mind.

yea im 95% sure its them

[Myth]

I'm still pissed that fat bastard goofball of a prospect got patched in and is sitting at the table. This is Sutter's way of pissing off the fans knowing that we'll still watch the show just the same.

Don't worry, he will die. I don't see any other reason for him being on the show other than to have a secondary character that is expendable.

[InspiredLebowski]

It's 100% the new guys. We saw their faces when they dumped Clay's safe into the dumpster. And Clay's behind it, they pulled the shit out of the safe, just some papers, for safe keeping for him.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Okay noW we know for certain clay is behind the roberies. I regret saying this show is better than breaking bad. I just dont like the direction it is going in. when tig shot that btch, she scratched his neck. Dna under the finger nails. If that comes back and haunts him, i might be through with this show. I dohbt unsar dies next episode. You dont spoil such a major event in the previews. :no:

It almost seemed like tara sucked off homeboy in jail, yet she didnt have any good news.

[Jailblazers7]

I like the fact that Jax is becoming a take no prisoners bad ass tho. The show is pretty ****ing absurd but its always entertaining.

I wonder what the smoldering ruble that Jax is standing on top of will look like at seasons end.

[Patrick Chewing]

Didn't like this episode. Too many stories all at once, and the whole suicide scene in Gemma's bedroom could have been cut out. Doesn't make their stories any more interesting. They could have just written her out by moving away somewhere else. Waste of 10 mins if you ask me.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Didn't like this episode. Too many stories all at once, and the whole suicide scene in Gemma's bedroom could have been cut out. Doesn't make their stories any more interesting. They could have just written her out by moving away somewhere else. Waste of 10 mins if you ask me.
And im so sure this is the first time gemma asked what the deal between them two was :rolleyes:

BTw who was that dude talking to gemma in the bar? Was he from a previous episode? Looked mad familiar.

[ConanRulesNBC]

That episode was f*cking crazy! This season has been awesome. I can't believe Clay is back on his feet and causing all this shit again. I still think Clay needs to stay until the end of the series though. Ron Perlman f*cking rules.

This episode was really violent. Nero's girlfriend shoots herself and the Sons take out the guard and his wife.

[InspiredLebowski]

And im so sure this is the first time gemma asked what the deal between them two was :rolleyes:

BTw who was that dude talking to gemma in the bar? Was he from a previous episode? Looked mad familiar.Joel McHale. Hosts The Soup and is on Community and some other various shit.

They need to kill Gemma. Every storyline of hers for going on like 3 seasons now just doesn't matter. But she's Sutter's wife so she'll keep being a major player. It's a shame, she's a pretty good actress, far better than Tara or any other female the show's ever had, but it's just pointless filler.

[InspiredLebowski]

That episode was f*cking crazy! This season has been awesome. I can't believe Clay is back on his feet and causing all this shit again. I still think Clay needs to stay until the end of the series though. Ron Perlman f*cking rules.

This episode was really violent. Nero's girlfriend shoots herself and the Sons take out the guard and his wife.to each their own and all, but you have low standards.

[ConanRulesNBC]

to each their own and all, but you have low standards.

How so?

[Tarik One]

How so?
Because you seem to choose style over substance.

[statman32]

Lame episode. Next week does look better minus the Joel McHale storyline.

[Myth]

Episode was OK. I liked the revenge on the guard. I was disappointed with how the episode ended showing Clay yell at the rookies as if the show was revealing something that wasn't already obvious enough from the rest of the episode. Might as well had some printed words at the end saying "For you morons who didn't figure it out, Clay is behind the attacks."

[dunksby]

FBI does not need Otto and their RICOH case to bring down the Sons, just get a warrant to examine Jacks' or Teague's clothes for blood on any given day.

[InspiredLebowski]

FBI does not need Otto and their RICOH case to bring down the Sons, just get a warrant to examine Jacks' or Teague's clothes for blood on any given day.C'mon dude. There's double homicides by 4 guys on a prison guard in broad daylight after the guy's outside trying to run away in a residential neighborhood that will NEVER BE SPOKEN OF AGAIN all the time.

[ConanRulesNBC]

Because you seem to choose style over substance.

...how do you get that from my post? :confusedshrug:

[Patrick Chewing]

Has there ever been a more violent show? I never saw The Shield but I can assume it was up there.

[Myth]

I was just thinking about the season preview with Jax crashing. I have a theory on what happens. Clay rigs Jax's bike to crash, Jemma finds out, she tries to stop him from going on his ride, which leads to the crash. This is likely the final step in Clay's plans to retake the thrown because Jax can't lead if he can't ride.

[dkmwise]

It almost seemed like tara sucked off homeboy in jail, yet she didnt have any good news.

Seems like shes planning to when she told Jax she didn't get to see Otto so would have to go bac kagain next week.

[dkmwise]

Does it bother anyone else that a third of the club is now made up of recently voted in nomads. When Clay and his band of nomads voted together and only lost the vote by 1 it was pathetic.

[Jailblazers7]

Does it bother anyone else that a third of the club is now made up of recently voted in nomads. When Clay and his band of nomads voted together and only lost the vote by 1 it was pathetic.

Juice turned into Clay's bitch pretty quickly too. He is such a shitty character.

[dkmwise]

Has there ever been a more violent show? I never saw The Shield but I can assume it was up there.

There have been more violent shows on premium cable channels like Oz on HBO, but probably not on regular cable.

[dkmwise]

Juice turned into Clay's bitch pretty quickly too. He is such a shitty character.

Yeah, he had potential too, I really liked his character the first 2 seasons but the past few season I don't liek the direction he has went either

[Patrick Chewing]

Juice is supposedly filming some movies, so I can assume that's why he hasn't been used as much on the show. He should've been offed last season.


Happy is the only guy I enjoy watching on the show now even though his role is limited. He has that true biker feel (oh wait, that's because he's a real-life Hells Angel)

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Ha, i was wondering why happy never had any other roles besides soa. :cheers:

[Myth]

Does it bother anyone else that a third of the club is now made up of recently voted in nomads. When Clay and his band of nomads voted together and only lost the vote by 1 it was pathetic.

I think it would have been more interesting if Clay had recruited about a third of the members we previously have known and loved into his mini-posse. Nobody gives a shit about his lackies, but if he had any of the main guys in his group, it would be a lot more interesting. As others have said, Juice became Clay's bitch, so I say you might as well have Clay blackmail Juice with something to have him be part of their group as well (his race?). Then when Clay and his group are discovered by Jax, they could have Jax off Juice for his participation, but only reveal to Jax after Juice is killed that Juice was being blackmailed into it so that Jax has that moral delemma hang over his head.

[dunksby]

So is this the good father Jax wanted to be? Dude is killing somebody in the most violent manners every episode and then goes home and everything is cool and he becomes all romantic and soft for his family. The writers of this show are so full of shit.

[Myth]

So is this the good father Jax wanted to be? Dude is killing somebody in the most violent manners every episode and then goes home and everything is cool and he becomes all romantic and soft for his family. The writers of this show are so full of shit.

I think they are trying to show how much compromise in his own morals he is making.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Clay setting up the nomads. Calling it now. Or is too obvious?

[Patrick Chewing]

Has there ever been a more violent show? I never saw The Shield but I can assume it was up there.

You're right Patrick Chewing, there never has been a more violent show.

[InspiredLebowski]

guy has an uzi or whatever, 2 feet away, unloads a clip. flesh wound on the leg opposite the gun that was protected by the bike.

i'm fine with suspending reality and all, but man, this show.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

You're right Patrick Chewing, there never has been a more violent show.
Shows were never allowed to be this violent. Not sure how soa gets away with it tbh.

[Myth]

Anybody else think that Clay hired a black guy to ride with the Nomad in the van? That way if they get killed rather than Jax, then it looks like Pope is behind the home invasions?

[Patrick Chewing]

Anybody else think that Clay hired a black guy to ride with the Nomad in the van? That way if they get killed rather than Jax, then it looks like Pope is behind the home invasions?


At this point, anything is possible. This season has been a jumbled mess. Too many different storylines that go up and down and way too many deaths.

[Myth]

At this point, anything is possible. This season has been a jumbled mess. Too many different storylines that go up and down and way too many deaths.

The deaths have made it more intriguing. It makes it so you don't know if the good guys are going to get away unscathed each episode. I was unsure if Unsur(sp?) was going to survive this recent episode for example.

[Patrick Chewing]

Unser will outlive all of them I'm afraid. I can see the last episode of this series showing Unser coming out on top.


So I was reading up on this season of SOA and I came across something very intriguing that may or may not have been mentioned on here before.

Has it crossed anyone's mind that perhaps Clay is Jax's father??

[Myth]

Unser will outlive all of them I'm afraid. I can see the last episode of this series showing Unser coming out on top.


So I was reading up on this season of SOA and I came across something very intriguing that may or may not have been mentioned on here before.

Has it crossed anyone's mind that perhaps Clay is Jax's father??

It never crossed my mind previously. But it is certainly possible. I kind of prefer they don't try to throw that twist in it though.

I don't see Unser surviving though. He is more expendable IMO than other characters, even though he is the most deserving of living IMO.

[daily]

The deaths have made it more intriguing. It makes it so you don't know if the good guys are going to get away unscathed each episode. I was unsure if Unsur(sp?) was going to survive this recent episode for example.Yeah I'm liking the pace, frantic times for SAMCRO equal a frantic pace. It'll slow down as Sutter starts to unravel the various threads and weave them into the seasons finale. He always does

[Myth]

Finally got around to seeing the most recent episode. This season is still not disappointing. Easily my favorite season thus far.

[Myth]

Todays episode was probably the most boring of the season. And even then somebody managed to die.

[InspiredLebowski]

Todays episode was probably the most boring of the season. And even then somebody managed to die.Frank Zito's meathead ass is finally done. That dude is a worse actor than Shaq.

[Tarik One]

The wife (Tara) rubbing that perfume on her front lawn was strange as hell. Oh well, this show has been all over the place so i can't be all that surprised at a scene like this, but still weird.

[shaq2000]

Otto... he's a bit of a prick.

[Loneshot]

Show is losing a lot of steam. A lot of shows are, the only one i bother keeping up with is Homeland and Walking Dead. Boardwalk Empire been a bit boring too.

[buckmcnasty]

Jax is a terrible actor., moreover, hes acting too hard right now and the show seems pretty shitty. with the hole clay part.

imo, the best scenes are with POPE. he shoots interesting philosophy.

[Loneshot]

Jax is a terrible actor., moreover, hes acting too hard right now and the show seems pretty shitty. with the hole clay part.

imo, the best scenes are with POPE. he shoots interesting philosophy.

Yeah, as much as a i hate Clay, the show was better when Jax wasn't the shot caller. Ever notice Jax always has his head tilted when he talks.

And i agree, the scenes with Pope are always good.

[Patrick Chewing]

I don't know how Tara hasn't killed herself by now or just run away with the kids. She goes through so much shit yet just sticks around like an idiot. Her waking up her kid on purpose was interesting. Loneliness? Or is she finally losing it??


Sutter is disappointing me this season.

[Myth]

Otto... he's a bit of a prick.

I loved that part. Otto is great.


Surprised you guys don't like this season. It is my favorite so far. Very excited to see how it ends.

Also, I just saw Unser on an episode of Seinfeld. I love catching people in that show that have since had bigger roles.

[Patrick Chewing]

Best season so far has to be Season 2 when the Sons were feuding with Zobelle and the White Supremacists. Henry Rollins was awesome that season and that's the season when Half Sack died and Abel was kidnapped.

That season was goooood.

[Myth]

Best season so far has to be Season 2 when the Sons were feuding with Zobelle and the White Supremacists. Henry Rollins was awesome that season and that's the season when Half Sack died and Abel was kidnapped.

That season was goooood.

I loved that season as well. Season 1 was the worst overall. Season 3 was bad until it had the best finale. 2 and 4 were close, but I think I give the nod to 2. This has been my favorite first 2/3 of a season, which is why I really am looking forward to see how it wraps up.

[daily]

I loved that part. Otto is great.


Surprised you guys don't like this season. It is my favorite so far. Very excited to see how it ends.

Also, I just saw Unser on an episode of Seinfeld. I love catching people in that show that have since had bigger roles. Don't know if it's my favorite but I'm enjoying the twists and turns this year. Just when you think they got Clay he worms free

[shaq2000]

Who the hell was the guy that beat up Otto?

[bergs14]

And what the **** is Bobby doing by saying he's keeping Clay alive? I hate when that show ends... It just always seems to leave me hangin lol

[miller-time]

And what the **** is Bobby doing by saying he's keeping Clay alive? I hate when that show ends... It just always seems to leave me hangin lol

it is good though, keeps you keen. so many times on boardwalk empire i have to get myself motivated to watch. it is a good show, but i'm often not really worried about what happens next.

i'm thinking maybe bobby doesn't believe jax, and instead thinks he is just on a personal vendetta to get clay?

that or he was sent by jax to get some dirt on him or "keep him close" before they make a move on him? he lost juice so he is putting someone else next to clay.

[HaNdLe ThE RoCk]

What's with all the Jax hate? Dude is a straight bad ass and as far as Clay goes.. He's a scum bag and I can't wait until he's taken out! It's coming.

[HaNdLe ThE RoCk]

So is this the good father Jax wanted to be? Dude is killing somebody in the most violent manners every episode and then goes home and everything is cool and he becomes all romantic and soft for his family. The writers of this show are so full of shit.

What?

He killed the cop that was a total ass to him and Opie and he killed that big soft ass black dude who brutally killed Opie right in front of Jax's face. Dude is going on a tear. Let someone kill your best friend right in front of your eyes and see how you act. C'mon guy, dude is wrecking house.

[Thorpesaurous]

I'm not a huge Jax fan either. Last night there was actually a good example when he blew up at the lawyer. The entire character is either intense whispering, or shouting. There's no gray area at all with the character. Even the scenes with Tara are life and death whispering matches about the intesity of their situation.
Clay and Gemma are both deeply drawn characters. And Unser has a good deal of depth, probably in large part because their characters have history, whereas Jax's history is largely unknown, and he's mostly revealing other people's as a plot development. But Jax was a better character when the other young cop was around, and they played up the notion that there was a history between them and Tara. They've also created some nice side characters. Juice has become interesting. And Tig, who I used to feel was completely one note, has been fleshed out well. Beyond that, Bobby is more or less a maguffin to move plot. His entire purpose on the show seems to be someone Clay, and then Jax, were able to talk to in a way to explain things to the audience. Even Chibbs has become sort of a flat character, although he had a good run with the Irish family stuff. I think the shallow character pool became more apparent once Opie was really gone, and frankly it's hard to develop character and have an element of mystery at the same time.

All that said, this is a plot driven show. It's a rediculous plot that changes constantly, that's the whole point. But lately it seems to be going too fast, which might have something to do with the fact that they don't have characters to fall back on. Homeland is another plot driven show that seems like it will eventually head in the same direction. Lately this has gotten too convoluted. They throw the word "Rico" around like it's a tangible thing, but it feels like no one, not the writers, not the actors, and therefore not the characters, really understand what it is. "Galinda has Rico!!!", "We need guns from the irish to kill Rico!!!", "Tara is trying to kill Rico!!!". Last night's table discussion about killing Rico was telling in that they had to cut into it right at the end. Then they throw in an absurd action set piece, like last night's Vato station wagon desert smoke out shoot em up car roll get away, that ended with essentially a rock 'n' roll sign and a Ric Flair Whhooooooo out the window, and it's more than a little over the top, and getting to be too much. But if they keep introducing new plot, like last night's introduction of Donal Logue, I'll keep tuning in. That's the whole point, what's gonna happen now, less so than who's it gonna happen to.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

^ and when jax screams, he always got that evil smile on his face. this show took a turn for the worse imo. anyways, season finale tonight, any predictions? i hope tig doesn't go.

[Thorpesaurous]

^ and when jax screams, he always got that evil smile on his face. this show took a turn for the worse imo. anyways, season finale tonight, any predictions? i hope tig doesn't go.

I see Tig somehow skipping town with Clay to let the heat die down and then start this rival chapter that Clay intends to skim off The Son's business, but will probably wind up being much more aggressive.

[FatComputerNerd]

^ and when jax screams, he always got that evil smile on his face. this show took a turn for the worse imo. anyways, season finale tonight, any predictions? i hope tig doesn't go.

I think Tara will get killed somehow, pushing Jax completely over the edge.

[Patrick Chewing]

Clay kills Pope tonight

Jax gets stopped by Bobby and saves Tig's Life. Bobby then proceeds to write a book on how he is saving lives while being in a motorcycle gang.

Tara takes the job and the kids and moves the hell out of Charming

Otto breaks out of jail somehow and tries to find Tara so that he can sniff her a few more times

Juice admits to Clay he's also gay

Unser realizes his prick is about to fall off soon, so he goes and breaks into Gemma's house, killing Nero who's taking a dump in the bathroom, and finally getting to tag Gemma.

Opie reunites with Donna in heaven

Chibs and Happy see what's going on and decide to start their own MC

[Geriatric]

Jax is gonna make arrangements with Pope's #2 to keep all of the clubs agreements with Pope in place in exchange for Tig's life and Jax killing off Pope.

Clay, Tig and Juice break off to form their own club.

Tara finds out what Jax did to Abel's mom after she tried to extend an olive branch and flips out and leaves him for the new job and new town.

Not sure where Gemma is going. We're lead to believe Nero is her new guy but I'm just not sure.

Chibs, Bobby and Happy (who'd have though Happy would appear to be one of the last sane ones left on the show) stay with Jax and hope they can pull everything back together.

[ihoopallday]

Nero has been my favorite character this season. Anyways, I didn't start watching this show till about 4 months ago. Was bored one day and just clicked it on Netflix. Great decision. Probably my top 3 favorite show of all time.

[Patrick Chewing]

Nero has been my favorite character this season. Anyways, I didn't start watching this show till about 4 months ago. Was bored one day and just clicked it on Netflix. Great decision. Probably my top 3 favorite show of all time.


Make sure you watch Season 2 when you have the chance. This is actually the worst season of the series.

[Thorpesaurous]

Nero has been my favorite character this season. Anyways, I didn't start watching this show till about 4 months ago. Was bored one day and just clicked it on Netflix. Great decision. Probably my top 3 favorite show of all time.


I really hate Nero, but for the sake of full disclosure, I have an irrational dislike for Jimmy Smits. I'm not sure where it stems from, but I know it has some roots in his role on Season 3 of Dexter, which I know some people really liked, but I found bordering on unwatchable.

Anyone notic Jane's Addiction / Red Hot Chili Pepper / Former Mr. Carmen Electra / Ink Wars celebrity host Dave Navarro as Nero's essay last week. To describe him as Wooden would be an insult cigar store Indians. And I get the sense he'll be recurring. How they convinced this guy to do a bad mexican dude gang banger accent really should be reviewed.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

I really hate Nero, but for the sake of full disclosure, I have an irrational dislike for Jimmy Smits. I'm not sure where it stems from, but I know it has some roots in his role on Season 3 of Dexter, which I know some people really liked, but I found bordering on unwatchable.

Anyone notic Jane's Addiction / Red Hot Chili Pepper / Former Mr. Carmen Electra / Ink Wars celebrity host Dave Navarro as Nero's essay last week. To describe him as Wooden would be an insult cigar store Indians. And I get the sense he'll be recurring. How they convinced this guy to do a bad mexican dude gang banger accent really should be reviewed.
lol, couldn't put my finger on who he was. knew he was some rock star tho.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

I didn't get the point in Jax inserting heroin into chicks arm. It only stays in your system for a couple days.

[shaq2000]

I was expecting the Irish to break Clay out of jail.


I didn't get the point in Jax inserting heroin into chicks arm. It only stays in your system for a couple days.

I think opiates are detectable in your blood/urine/hair for longer than that.

[Myth]

I didn't get the point in Jax inserting heroin into chicks arm. It only stays in your system for a couple days.

It only stays in your system for a few days, which is long enough to prevent her from going to the cops with what she knows. If she goes to the cops after it is out of her system, then her story of finding that stuff out while she was kidnapped doesn't seem believable and it just seems like a play for the kids.

[bergs14]

Really enjoyed the finale. Really unsure on what direction season 6 is going to go in now though.. Tara wants out, Jax has an ultimatum, (same as every other season lol) and we follow Clays trip to prison..

And did anyone else get infuriated when they seen the fighting dogs. I hate that shit. And otto biting his tongue off... god damn..



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[Tarik One]

There's little no doubt that it's the retired marshall who set up Tara's arrest. Not Peg Bundy

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

It only stays in your system for a few days, which is long enough to prevent her from going to the cops with what she knows. If she goes to the cops after it is out of her system, then her story of finding that stuff out while she was kidnapped doesn't seem believable and it just seems like a play for the kids.
I hear ya. In the real world tho, that chick would have absolutely no trouble gaining custody of her child. Even excluding the stuff that happened in Belfast.

[Patrick Chewing]

Sorry, but didn't like this season at all. Too much crap going on at once for Sutter to put into only 13 episodes.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Sorry, but didn't like this season at all. Too much crap going on at once for Sutter to put into only 13 episodes.
Season was a disappointment, but the season finale delivered.

[Myth]

I wanted Pope to last more than this season. Seemed like he had a lot of promise, and then he is just gone pretty suddenly.

I have a theory on how Clay survives next season. Right now, he is arrested for the murder of Pope and the bounty is on him. But Jemma's official report will be put in question by Jax or somebody to get Tara out of jail, but by putting Jemma's report in question, that may get Clay off the hook as well. After Clay is freed, then the heat will come down on the club as a whole, and we will see another war between Jax, Pope's assassin's, and maybe Pope's old crew as well.

I also still want a return of the white power guys from season 2.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

i knew pope was gone because he has a new show coming out with that dude from 90210.

[Myth]

i knew pope was gone because he has a new show coming out with that dude from 90210.

Glad I didn't know that.

Also, I'm thinking we haven't seen the last of the guy that had his face pressed into nails. No reason for that guy to live other than to have him coming back later looking like a Bond villain.

[shaq2000]

I also still want a return of the white power guys from season 2.

Well, Henry Rollins' character was killed by Jax and Zobelle fled to Hungary.

[Patrick Chewing]

At every season finale, we usually can spot the villain for next season. Zobelle and The Nords/Hales, The Irish, Pope, etc..


It is so clear that the series is winding down and all outside villains have been practically crushed or have turned into allies, that the only logical villain left lies within the club.


Gemma.


Pure poison. Tara going to jail should be the final straw for Jax. I said it all along since last season that Gemma was hiding something else in those letters and that Clay was covering for her because he truly loved her and she was a big reason he got the gavel. However, Gemma is the f'n antichrist and I have a feeling it will all come to a head next season. Gemma has always craved control and a way in which to survive. She knows she will not survive with Clay, so she backstabs him and turns to Nero. She knows she will lose Jax and her grandsons (the only thing pure and innocent in her life) if Tara gets her way, so she will stop at nothing to prevent that.

[Thorpesaurous]

I agree with a lot of what's being said here.

Once again the season finale is a really good pay off to a season that had really kind of gone off the rails there about half way through.

Everything remains a little too goofy the way they close everything up so conveniently. I know if I go to the mall after work, that's a pretty full day for me. These guys seem to go all over existence without much in the way of food or sleep over the course of 48 hours all the time.

I've grown to really like the Tig character, so I'm glad they kept him alive. I honestly didn't see the Clay set up thing coming. That's a big two birds with one stone play, in that it took care of the Sherriff and Pope story lines in one fell swoop. Was it a little rediculous? ... Sure ... but I can live with it to tie ends.

I look forward to Clay next season in prison. They've done a pretty good job making a pretty reprehensible character sympathetic. And he seems like he'll continue to be.
Tara's meltdown was one of the better performances the show has seen since much of the characters are pretty flat. It was nice to see her stretched a little.
I agree that Gemma is going to be the villain next year. Her turning on Clay means he's out on her too. And once Jax finds out about her even threatening Tara, weather it came from her or not, he's going to flip too. They sort of imply it's her because she had to go give a statement anyway about Clay, but because they didn't show it, I'm not opposed to the notion that it wasn't her.
I'm not sure biting off your own tongue means you can't give testimony because you can't speak. But I'm sure it makes for a pretty good insanity case.
Bobby cutting off his VP patch was an interesting note that has gone pretty much unmentioned. The club needs an internal foil, and Bobby is more suited for it than anyone else.
It sounds like we'll be seeing more Dave Navarro next season, which could pay off in unintentional comedy if nothing else.

[Day La Ghetto]

nypd blue mexi and Dave narvarros accents are rediculous,neither one comes close to having a real Mexican accent in reality,overdoing it.also I'm becoming to like Tara even more than I did,didn't think I could,something about that broad that I can't pinpoint but I'm in love with her.clay was the backbone of this show,I hate how they have went away from him as the lead . I liked him and jaxx so much more as a team.jaxx as a lead is great though, I just miss clay being the badass that everyone loves.

[glidedrxlr22]

i knew pope was gone because he has a new show coming out with that dude from 90210.

Yeah, I called that months ago when that stupid Wedding Band show first came out. That was a clear indicator he would get whacked.

[daily]

Quick bullets

I'm not convinced it was Gemma that set up Tera.

Just when you think Otto couldn't get any higher on the hardcore scale he ratchets it up to a whole new level.

Next season's fly in the ointment will be the murdered prison nurse's brother the ex US marshall.

Tig lost a daughter but gained a dog.

Jax is every bit the outlaw a hardcore MC needs as it's president.

[heavensdevil]

I'm not convinced it was Gemma that set up Tera

yup, IMO. The Marshall did it.

I was surprised that Tig didnt die, what Jax did caught me off guard, Not mad though, Tig is one of the best actors on the show.

[daily]

yup, IMO. The Marshall did it.

I was surprised that Tig didnt die, what Jax did caught me off guard, Not mad though, Tig is one of the best actors on the show.I wasn't surprised Tig didn't die, it was the how he didn't die that threw me the curve ball.

I was certain he'd be on that plane to Ireland with Clay at the last minute. I figured he'd get wind of what was going down and make a beeline for the airport

[Myth]

Well, Henry Rollins' character was killed by Jax and Zobelle fled to Hungary.

Right, and if I remember correctly, Zobelle said something about prepping to come back in the future.

[Myth]

At every season finale, we usually can spot the villain for next season. Zobelle and The Nords/Hales, The Irish, Pope, etc..


It is so clear that the series is winding down and all outside villains have been practically crushed or have turned into allies, that the only logical villain left lies within the club.


Gemma.


Pure poison. Tara going to jail should be the final straw for Jax. I said it all along since last season that Gemma was hiding something else in those letters and that Clay was covering for her because he truly loved her and she was a big reason he got the gavel. However, Gemma is the f'n antichrist and I have a feeling it will all come to a head next season. Gemma has always craved control and a way in which to survive. She knows she will not survive with Clay, so she backstabs him and turns to Nero. She knows she will lose Jax and her grandsons (the only thing pure and innocent in her life) if Tara gets her way, so she will stop at nothing to prevent that.

I figured this as well. Clay and Jax parallel, while Gemma and Tara parallell. So now that Clay is a villain, it makes sense that Gemma becomes one too. Clay is also setting up his own club essentially, so I see it as Jax/Tara and the SOA versus Clay/Gemma and Clay's new crew.

[Loneshot]

Anyone notices how phat Tara's ass is? So damn nice.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Anyone notices how phat Tara's ass is? So damn nice.
Haha, I actually despised her until I noticed her assss an episode or two ago. Good eye my friend.

[heavensdevil]

Haha, I actually despised her until I noticed her assss an episode or two ago. Good eye my friend.

She used to look a lot better in the earlier seasons. She's kinda fallen off.

[Loneshot]

Haha, I actually despised her until I noticed her assss an episode or two ago. Good eye my friend.

Hahaha, whats funny is i felt the same way about her. Hated her then i saw that ass and was like
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdrkinKWyp1raucih.gif

Even black girls gotta shout, baby got back.

[Myth]

Hahaha, whats funny is i felt the same way about her. Hated her then i saw that ass and was like
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdrkinKWyp1raucih.gif

Even black girls gotta shout, baby got back.

I noticed her ass this last episode myself. But I didn't freak out as much as some of you it seems.

[dkmwise]

SOA always brings it in the finale. They left the door open for many plotlines next season. There is a very good chance Clay won't die in jail as he may have the protection of the IRA and maybe even the Cartel/CIA if their gun deal with Lin's crew falls through. Also there is the unresovled conflict with the Grimm Bastards. I actually think Pope's crew will leave SOA alone. They made the point to lay some back story about how Pope's #2 man really wanted to be #1. He knew talkign to Jax what was up and he accepted Jax's lame story.

As far as the show as a whole, when it started I really enjoyed watching a show about an outlaw MC. In the first few seasons while it's clearly over the top it was still somewhat believable. Remember when Jax and opie and Bobby go and murder the dock worker guy, they do it pretty stealthy and still there is a witness that screws them over later in the season. In season 5 they have gunfights in the middle of the street in broad daylight every episode and nothing ever comes from it. WTF. The show is still entertaining but not even remotely set in reality anymore. I still like it but would like it a lot more if it was a little more realistic. There are so many great characters in the show and I enjoy the realationships between them, not the over the top action.

[Myth]

As far as the show as a whole, when it started I really enjoyed watching a show about an outlaw MC. In the first few seasons while it's clearly over the top it was still somewhat believable. Remember when Jax and opie and Bobby go and murder the dock worker guy, they do it pretty stealthy and still there is a witness that screws them over later in the season. In season 5 they have gunfights in the middle of the street in broad daylight every episode and nothing ever comes from it. WTF. The show is still entertaining but not even remotely set in reality anymore. I still like it but would like it a lot more if it was a little more realistic. There are so many great characters in the show and I enjoy the realationships between them, not the over the top action.

Yeah, it is funny that the cops just sit in their office waiting for phone calls rather than actually patrolling and being spread out throughout the city within a couple minutes of anywhere they need to be. The daylight fights actually could have made more sense early on when Unser was the Chief and looking out for the club.

[dkmwise]

Yeah, it is funny that the cops just sit in their office waiting for phone calls rather than actually patrolling and being spread out throughout the city within a couple minutes of anywhere they need to be. The daylight fights actually could have made more sense early on when Unser was the Chief and looking out for the club.

And it seems a lot of these shoot-outs take place in neigboring cities that are larger and more populated then charming.

[sunsfan1357]

Everything remains a little too goofy the way they close everything up so conveniently. I know if I go to the mall after work, that's a pretty full day for me. These guys seem to go all over existence without much in the way of food or sleep over the course of 48 hours all the time.

I know this doesn't touch exactly on your point, but the amount of riding they do on their bikes in one day while still doing other stuff always amused me. According to Wiki, Sutter said he envisions Charming being in between Stockton and Lodi, which is the general area where I'm from. In a recent episode they drove out to Reno (about a 3 hour trip one way from Stockton) in the middle of the day, took care of some business, and got back to Charming in seemingly the same day while its still bright out.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

I noticed her ass this last episode myself. But I didn't freak out as much as some of you it seems.
i try to find the good in everybody.

[ConanRulesNBC]

So what do you think will happen in season 6? Will this be it for Clay or will Clay find a way out? Ron Perlman was absolutely fantastic this season as Clay.

Who is going to replace Bobby as VP? Also, what will Jax think of Bobby quitting as VP?

Is Juice safe now or will the club use this against him to do things for them from now on?

Did Gemma really rat out Tara or was it Lee Toric?

How will Lee Toric play into next season? He seems dangerous and has connections. He might be the biggest threat SAMCRO has ever faced.

What will happen with the RIRA and the Cartel/CIA? Will everything just run smoothly for them or will SAMCRO be caught in the middle?

What's going to happen with Nero and Gemma? I'm glad Jimmy Smits might come back next season. He was great.

[ihoopallday]

:( Did anyone feel bad for Clay at all? Gemma is one cold hearted bitch. Can't believe she had the nerve to threaten Tara after she nearly killed those boys earlier in the season.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

:( Did anyone feel bad for Clay at all? Gemma is one cold hearted bitch. Can't believe she had the nerve to threaten Tara after she nearly killed those boys earlier in the season.
I do, but then I remember Clay dug his own grave. Had Donna killed, her father-in-law, put out a hit on Tara, was responsible for the cop's wife getting murdered, beating the sh!t out of Gemma.

[GoRapz]

Holy f*ck brehs!!!! I know i'm late on this but I just finished Season 5. What an awesome finale. Kurt Sutter is a f*cking genious!!!

Hope someone can clarify this for me though. Why did Jax connect Lin with Galindo? I thought Galindo only wanted the IRA? Also, did Lin always have this gun connection?

Thanks for the clarification guys.

[Myth]

Holy f*ck brehs!!!! I know i'm late on this but I just finished Season 5. What an awesome finale. Kurt Sutter is a f*cking genious!!!

Hope someone can clarify this for me though. Why did Jax connect Lin with Galindo? I thought Galindo only wanted the IRA? Also, did Lin always have this gun connection?

Thanks for the clarification guys.

Jax has wanted out of the gun business the whole time essentially. This gets them a cut without actually being in the gun business.

[GoRapz]

Jax has wanted out of the gun business the whole time essentially. This gets them a cut without actually being in the gun business.

I know jax has wanted out the whole time but did he do the hook up just for a cut? Why did Galindo want another gun hook up? I thought he only wanted the IRA for CIA purposes?

[Myth]

I know jax has wanted out the whole time but did he do the hook up just for a cut? Why did Galindo want another gun hook up? I thought he only wanted the IRA for CIA purposes?

I can't remember since I watched the episodes as they came out. Sorry.

[GoRapz]

It's all good dude thanks anyways :cheers:

[GoRapz]

bump

[EricGordon23]

Its official I'm going to try and grow opies beard.

[Myth]

Its official I'm going to try and grow opies beard.

That is impressive. I'm only able to grow my own beard.

[Patrick Chewing]

Season 5 was a muddled mess of shite.

[EricGordon23]

That is impressive. I'm only able to grow my own beard.

I see what you did there!

[longtime lurker]

Season 5 was a muddled mess of shite.

Really? I like the action in season 5. Every episode was like a shorter version of Bady Boys 2. I just didn't like the fact that Pope got taken out pretty quick.

[dkmwise]

I finally finished watching Sons of Anarchy. My thoughts, seasons 1-3 are great. The ending of season 3 was one of the best season finales I have ever seen. With that said, season 4 wasn't as good as any of the previous 3 seasons, and season 5 was a major disappointment. It sucks that Clay isn't the leader anymore but he asked for it. He's a f*cking badass though.



Completely agree about the season 3 finale.

Season 5 tried to pack in way too much unrealistic action which is not what most fans of the show seem to want anyway. In season 1 they had to be careful about doing illegal stuff and in season 5 they take a criminal parade down main city street with no consequences

[Patrick Chewing]

Really? I like the action in season 5. Every episode was like a shorter version of Bady Boys 2. [/COLOR]


The problem I had with this season is that is was way too violent as opposed to the others. You have to suspend reality with this show and I hate that. With all the killings going on in and around Charming, you'd assume government officials would order martial law or something and get the national guard in there.

Also, there were too many storylines going on at once. It's hard to sink your teeth into a character and really relate when you're drawn away by the drama of another that I feel is quite unnecessary. This should have been the season where Clay was seen from the least, but then he goes crazy rogue and conspires to infiltrate the gang with his own guys.....I mean c'mon.

[longtime lurker]

The problem I had with this season is that is was way too violent as opposed to the others. You have to suspend reality with this show and I hate that. With all the killings going on in and around Charming, you'd assume government officials would order martial law or something and get the national guard in there.

Also, there were too many storylines going on at once. It's hard to sink your teeth into a character and really relate when you're drawn away by the drama of another that I feel is quite unnecessary. This should have been the season where Clay was seen from the least, but then he goes crazy rogue and conspires to infiltrate the gang with his own guys.....I mean c'mon.

I don't think the body count was that high that they'd be martial law or national guard. Some of the worst inner cities of Chicago or LA for example have ridiculous amounts of violence and nothing is done about it. Charming is a butt **** town of no importance that wouldn't register on the national radar and I wouldn't expect the amount of bodies dropping to be anything out of the ordinary when it comes to biker gangs and violence. And season for they did have the RICO case over them so it's not like they were totally unnoticed by the government at all.

I didn't feel that there were too many story lines going on because the central focus was always Jax and no matter how much he tries to distance himself from the club he gets in deeper and is turning into Clay. And you can't have SOA without Clay, he's just being his usual sneaky scheming self. It just goes to show you despite getting a lease on life some people will never change.

[Lebron23]

Just finished watching the series.