Lebrons 45-15-5 game vs Celtics Game 6 (video)

[Hank]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-VzBeOrdAg

45 pts on just 26 shots, 15 boards, 5 assists, and Lebron shutdown his defensive matchup for most of the night (Pierce was a god awful 4-18 shooting and invisible all game long)


Notes: James is the first player to score at least 25 points against the Celtics in eight consecutive postseason games since Kareem Abdul-Jabbar from April 28, 1974, to May 27, 1984

James became the first player since Wilt Chamberlain in 1964 with at least 45 points, 15 rebounds and five assists in a postseason game

:bowdown:

[ripthekik]

peniis.

[PistolPete44]

Nope , he is not better than our god

5 rings > 1 ring

[Poetry]

James became the first player since Wilt Chamberlain in 1964 with at least 45 points, 15 rebounds and five assists in a postseason game[/I]

:bowdown:

Great game but...

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199306010PHO.html

[ihoopallday]

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[Sakkreth]

Great game but...

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199306010PHO.html

Well yeah, but LeBron's game was slightly more important also away.

[Vienceslav]

I remember it like it was a month ago.

[swag2011]

"James became the first player since Wilt Chamberlain in 1964 with at least 45 points, 15 rebounds and five assists in a postseason game"

LOL this is so stupid. Why did ESPN do this? I could EASILY switch the numbers to 35 points, 8 rebounds, 7 assists? It's so arbitrary lol. But i guess.

48 points, 16 rebounds, 3 assists. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjfxlvvXfSw
:cheers:

[I LUV KOBE]

:sleeping :sleeping :sleeping :sleeping :sleeping

[Dengness9]

Hey BigRob aka Hank


U suck ***** just like ur kids

[ihoopallday]

Hey BigRob aka Hank


U suck ***** just like ur kids


:facepalm Is that really necessary?

[b4uc.23]

lots of salty kobetards ..

[pauk]

Nope , he is not better than our god

5 rings > 1 ring

7 non-the-man rings > 3 non-the-man rings

http://newspaper.li/static/bd1938c1f082a3c8c9ff00dd41da2f64.jpg

[Ketchup]

"James became the first player since Wilt Chamberlain in 1964 with at least 45 points, 15 rebounds and five assists in a postseason game"

LOL this is so stupid. Why did ESPN do this? I could EASILY switch the numbers to 35 points, 8 rebounds, 7 assists? It's so arbitrary lol. But i guess.

48 points, 16 rebounds, 3 assists. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjfxlvvXfSw
:cheers:

I honestly didn't hear anyone complain when they did the arbitrary numbers with Rondo's game.

As long as it isn't Lebron it's fine.

[LikeABosh]

LeGawd :lebronamazed: :bowdown:

[swag2011]

I honestly didn't hear anyone complain when they did the arbitrary numbers with Rondo's game.

As long as it isn't Lebron it's fine.

omg shut up, trying to always paint Lebron being a victim. :oldlol: I complained about Rondo as well. But no one gives a damn about his performance or Westbrooks, because they both resulted in losing efforts. But the point still stands. Arbitrary numbers, are arbitrary numbers are they not? Trying to make it seem out of this world godly b/c it's compared to Wilt, when there have been games like it.

I'm not taking anything away from his performance. Was it amazing? Yes. The best in a few years. But are the numbers arbitrary? Yes. I could easily say 30, 6, 9. Or 25+, 12, 4? Get the point? :confusedshrug:

[Bigsmoke]

Great game but...

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199306010PHO.html

Barkley's defense sucks

whats the point of scoring 43 when you're going to let your man score 33 points on 13/18 shooting?

[franchise#3]

Refs were amazing that game

[Bigsmoke]

Refs were amazing that game

Kobe got raped by the same squad LeBron taking out in 5? :lol


bitch

[tmacattack33]

Amazing game. And it was an elimination game in the ECF, so it'd be hard to find anything besides a Finals game that had more importance.

[thelucifer69]

Nope , he is not better than our god

5 rings > 1 ring

who are you talking about crazy little bitch

[Hank]

heh

[Lebron23]

Ruthless Aggression.

[Round Mound]

That Game was Godly But I Still Remember Rondo and Shorter Players Guarding Him? Come On Celtics Coach!

[andgar923]

That Game was Godly But I Still Remember Rondo and Shorter Players Guarding Him? Come On Celtics Coach!

He at least recognized the mismatch and reacted appropriately. He had a history of not doing this, this playoff run was a growing experience for him. I saw him do things on a more consistent basis then before. And he was hitting shots from everywhere in that game, all types of shots at that. He was reading the defense and reacting like the great scorers should do.

If he can maintain that same level of consistency, the world is in trouble.

I've always said that Bron is scary even tho he has ways to go. But once he figures it out

[RaininTwos]

[QUOTE=andgar923]He at least recognized the mismatch and reacted appropriately. He had a history of not doing this, this playoff run was a growing experience for him. I saw him do things on a more consistent basis then before. And he was hitting shots from everywhere in that game, all types of shots at that. He was reading the defense and reacting like the great scorers should do.

If he can maintain that same level of consistency, the world is in trouble.

I've always said that Bron is scary even tho he has ways to go. But once he figures it out

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Arguably the Goat "do or die" performance by a individual player.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

That Game was Godly But I Still Remember Rondo and Shorter Players Guarding Him? Come On Celtics Coach!
Yeah good point. But Rivers messed up AGAIN next game by putting Bass on Lebron and Lebron blew by him at will. Should have stayed with Pierce and lived with the foul trouble.

[Magic 32]

A former great team on their last legs. 2008 Celtics would shut him down.

Lebron had the easiest road to the finals since Kidd and Martin in 2002.

No Rose, no Howard, not a single team above "very good" status.

[LEFT4DEAD]

A former great team on their last legs. 2008 Celtics would shut him down.

Lebron had the easiest road to the finals since Kidd and Martin in 2002.

No Rose, no Howard, not a single team above "very good" status.
And beating the Pacers and the Celtics with injured Wade and without Bosh in half of this games was coincidence, and battling to 4:1 win over clearly the best team in WC (and the team that Miami stood no chance of beating according to most of the posters on ISH and 80% of USA population) was pure luck right? :coleman:

[pauk]

A former great team on their last legs. 2008 Celtics would shut him down.

Lebron had the easiest road to the finals since Kidd and Martin in 2002.

No Rose, no Howard, not a single team above "very good" status.

Lebron individually basically never had trouble against Celtics, especially not against Rose and his team or Howard and his team.... against Howard he had arguably the most productive series in NBA playoff history averaging 39-8-8... against Rose? See what happened in ECF last year... against Celtics, see what happened this year, last year and in his Cavs days..

Lebron played with career low averaging injured Wade, a career low averaging injured Bosh who missed basically the entire ECF and excluding the Finals his other roleplayers were underperforming and were exploited due to their small size defensively against especially Celtics.... Lebron literally carried that team with amazing playoff performance, he willed that team to a championship and had actually great competition, but he played so good that it made his competition look.... "easy"....

[Magic 32]

Lebron individually basically never had trouble against Celtics, especially not against Rose and his team or Howard and his team....

Still better than playing a dysfunctional Knicks team, a hard working but “wet behind the ears” Pacers team, and a old Celtics team relying entirely on a point guard who can't shoot.

Pointing out what Lebron did statistically in 2008, 2009 and 2012 against those teams (losing two of those series) is worthless data.

The 2012 eastern conference was a joke.

[Lebron23]

[QUOTE=Magic 32]Still better than playing a dysfunctional Knicks team, a hard working but

[LBJ 23]

The 2012 eastern conference was a joke.


How was that a joke? Miami was tied 2-2 against Indiana with Pacers having all the momentum to advance. Miami was trailing 3-2 against Boston in the conference Finals. And then in the Finals Miami won against Oklahoma 4-1, the same Oklahoma team which, except for San Antonio series, has closed out competition in the western conference pretty easily.

Something doesn't seem logical here, don't you think? Actually no, it is logical and the conclusion that follows is that 2012 western conference was an even bigger joke, but God forbid to say something like that cuz our hero Kobe is playing there and his ''competitive spirit'' won't allow him to face weak competiton...

[NumberSix]

#3 poster is a phaggit

[Lebron23]

45-15-5 in a do or die game againts the no.1 defensive team in the NBA Last season.

[tazb]

IMO if the Heat lost this game LeBron's legacy would've been ruined and he wouldn't have a shot at being the GOAT. On the road in an elimination game with probably millions of people watching and then he goes on to drop 45-15-5 :eek: One of the best post-season performances in NBA history.:applause:

[Lebron23]

IMO if the Heat lost this game LeBron's legacy would've been ruined and he wouldn't have a shot at being the GOAT. On the road in an elimination game with probably millions of people watching and then he goes on to drop 45-15-5 :eek: One of the best post-season performances in NBA history.:applause:


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kea8TCoPs8U/TebwS-aQGDI/AAAAAAAAA0w/kdGt0zwvKcI/s1600/nba-jokes-photos-lebron-vs-boston-matrix.gif

[BrickingStar]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kea8TCoPs8U/TebwS-aQGDI/AAAAAAAAA0w/kdGt0zwvKcI/s1600/nba-jokes-photos-lebron-vs-boston-matrix.gif
He doesn't end up hitting ray allen in the gif. Coincidence?

[secund2nun]

"James became the first player since Wilt Chamberlain in 1964 with at least 45 points, 15 rebounds and five assists in a postseason game"

LOL this is so stupid. Why did ESPN do this? I could EASILY switch the numbers to 35 points, 8 rebounds, 7 assists? It's so arbitrary lol. But i guess.

48 points, 16 rebounds, 3 assists. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjfxlvvXfSw
:cheers:

Lebron did his without GOAT prime Shaq taking up defenders while being double teamed in the paint :roll:

[tmacattack33]

Truly a classic game that we will all remember for the rest of our lives.

[PJR]

Truly a classic game that we will all remember for the rest of our lives.

Yep. Simply amazing.

[tazb]

Truly a classic game that we will all remember for the rest of our lives.

Agreed. This game and his legendary cramp game in the Finals will go down as one of he best performances.

[tmacattack33]

Agreed. This game and his legendary cramp game in the Finals will go down as one of he best performances.

That was great, but idk, i dont really like the "fighting through injury" games or plays that much. There's no way for us to really know how much pain the guy is in. We all thought Paul Pierce had just suffered a huge injury in 2008...and then 15 min later he came back. :confusedshrug:

[Blue&Orange]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201104190BOS.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX92j8wp7f8

42\17\6 agaisnt same Boston with Landry Fields, Ronny Turiaf, Toney Douglas, Billy Walker, Jared Jeffries, Shawne Williams, Roger MAson, Anthony Carter.

[SilkkTheShocker]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201104190BOS.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX92j8wp7f8

42\17\6 agaisnt same Boston with Landry Fields, Ronny Turiaf, Toney Douglas, Billy Walker, Jared Jeffries, Shawne Williams, Roger MAson, Anthony Carter.


LeBron's game 6 will be remembered forever. No one will care about Melo's game (in a series they were swept in). Nice try though :oldlol:

[tazb]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201104190BOS.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX92j8wp7f8

42\17\6 agaisnt same Boston with Landry Fields, Ronny Turiaf, Toney Douglas, Billy Walker, Jared Jeffries, Shawne Williams, Roger MAson, Anthony Carter.

46% shooting, they lost, first round of the playoffs, swept that series.

[SilkkTheShocker]

46% shooting, they lost, first round of the playoffs, swept that series.


This. All I remember from that series is Melo once again losing in the 1st round.

[Blue&Orange]

46% shooting, they lost, first round of the playoffs, swept that series.
And still a better game than the "legendary game" or "forever remembered game" by Lebron.

The only thing legendary here is the overrating.

[tmacattack33]

I'll also always remember Dirk's game against OKC where he went 17 for 23 or whatever and 19/19 on foul shots.

[thesage]

And still a better game than the "legendary game" or "forever remembered game" by Lebron.

The only thing legendary here is the overrating.

HUH?!?!?!!?!!?!

[tmacattack33]

HUH?!?!?!!?!!?!

Don't mind him lol. All he sees is three numbers (points, reb, assists) which made him come to the conclusion that Melo's random game there was better than this game by Lebron.

What he doesn't realize is Lebron's game was great because of, in order: 1. Stakes (ECF Game 6, facing elimination) 2. Efficiency 3. Total points, assists, and rebounds

So he is talking about the least important thing here.

[Rysio]

such an overrated game. lebrick must of gotten like 10+ feet of space on most of his shots. celtic players were all worn out getting screwed by the refs so much that series shouldn't even had a game 6. :facepalm

[SilkkTheShocker]

And still a better game than the "legendary game" or "forever remembered game" by Lebron.

The only thing legendary here is the overrating.

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

Try again

[LBJ 23]

What he doesn't realize is Lebron's game was great because of, in order: 1. Stakes (ECF Game 6, facing elimination)


It was soo much more than just facing elimination. Miami loses that game and Lebron becomes the biggest joke in sports history ever. Whole world was waiting for it. Failing to win a ring two years in a row with Wade and Bosh, there's no way Lebron as a sports figure could recover from that.

That's why it's funny to hear haters still say ''Lebron is mentally weak'' and phrases like this. I don't know if there was a player in NBA history who had so much at stake with just one single game and responding the way he did.

[Magic 32]

What people seems to ignore is that Lebron did not have his 2 best playoff games against the 2005 Detroit Pistons or the 2008 Boston Celtics.

As amazing as these performances were, he did against two old teams ready for the pickin'.

[willds09]

Refs helped again dat game:rolleyes:

[Bigsmoke]

why do Kobe **** and lames have to ruin every great thread topic

[Magic 32]

why do Kobe **** and lames have to ruin every great thread topic

why do Lebron **** and lames have to ruin every great thread topic

[Bigsmoke]

What people seems to ignore is that Lebron did not have his 2 best playoff games against the 2005 Detroit Pistons or the 2008 Boston Celtics.

As amazing as these performances were, he did against two old teams ready for the pickin'.

The Pistons went to the Finals in 2005 and didn't play the Cavs

u mean the 2007 Pistons that finish with an even better record the year after they were called "old" and "done":rolleyes:

Sheed: 32 and still an All star
webber: he old 34
Prince: 27
Hamilton: 29
Billups:30

thats REALLY old right there :rolleyes:

[Kingwillball]

And still a better game than the "legendary game" or "forever remembered game" by Lebron.

The only thing legendary here is the overrating.


Not even Close.. Heat lose they go Home Lebron Played with a Lazer like Focus that I rarely ever seen from him that night knowing his Legacy was at stake if they lost that series after losing to Dallas the year before in finals..ON top of everything Else he dint even score last 6 minutes of the game because it was a Blowout at that point. He very Easily could of scored 50-55 that night had the gm been a little closer.

[kNicKz]

This game was legendary, and is the best game of Lebron's career in my opinion. I take his sports center driven stats put up on the bobcats with a grain of salt but this game was legendary, and it can't be denied... He terminated the celtics

Side Note: **** the heat

[Magic 32]

The Pistons went to the Finals in 2005 and didn't play the Cavs

u mean the 2007 Pistons that finish with an even better record the year after they were called "old" and "done":rolleyes:

Sheed: 32 and still an All star
webber: he old 34
Prince: 27
Hamilton: 29
Billups:30

thats REALLY old right there :rolleyes:

The frontcourt of Ben Wallace and Rasheed Wallace, in their prime, was what made that team special (Sheed being an All-Star in 07 speaks more to the awfulness of the EC at the time than his play).

Webber did not gel at all with the team and Flip Saunders' has never shown any playoffs chops in his long long career.

The fact that only the two least important players on the team were in their 20's is evidence enough for me. And the bench was thin/old as well.

[LikeABosh]

And still a better game than the "legendary game" or "forever remembered game" by Lebron.

The only thing legendary here is the overrating.
Dumbass Knicks fan, gtfo. That was the biggest game of Lebron's life. He loses that game and the Heat go home and Lebron remains win less. God knows the scrutiny he would face, hell the entire Heat team could've been blown up had they not won that game. His focus was legendary in that game. He was not going to be stopped. Had it not been for a blow out, he would've dropped 55

[Blue&Orange]

Dumbass Knicks fan, gtfo. That was the biggest game of Lebron's life. He loses that game and the Heat go home and Lebron remains win less. God knows the scrutiny he would face, hell the entire Heat team could've been blown up had they not won that game. His focus was legendary in that game. He was not going to be stopped. Had it not been for a blow out, he would've dropped 55
Lebron played 45 minutes, and yes Lebron would have gotten cancer and all his family would have died if he didn't won that game. Let's keep rewriting the context because numbers wise can't be done. Dumb ph@ggot.

[tazb]

And still a better game than the "legendary game" or "forever remembered game" by Lebron.

The only thing legendary here is the overrating.

Is this a real post? Or am I seeing things? :lol

[Mr. Incredible]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201104190BOS.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX92j8wp7f8

42\17\6 agaisnt same Boston with Landry Fields, Ronny Turiaf, Toney Douglas, Billy Walker, Jared Jeffries, Shawne Williams, Roger MAson, Anthony Carter.
They lost the game and got swept in the series.

Next.

[Mr. Incredible]

And still a better game than the "legendary game" or "forever remembered game" by Lebron.

The only thing legendary here is the overrating.
^ Small d!ck syndrome..

Next.

[Lebron23]

It's still one of the best elimination games. In a do or die game the Lebron led his team into victory.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7kkbpcgXI8

LBJ in this game >> His Game 5 performance against the Pistons a couple of year ago.

[inclinerator]

r.i.p hank

[Illuminati]

Truly one of the greatest performances in NBA history.

[fragokota]

Guess who's the only one that has put numbers like this since then...Of course it is nowhere near the difficulty of a playoff elimination win in TD Garden and it was a loss :lol :lol :lol

[cos88]

just epic, not an elimination game a LEGACY game.

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40-18-9 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlHmHKzl7eU :bowdown:

[red1]

kobe-esque performance

[Solefade]

GOAT playoff performance

[Solefade]

kobe-esque performance


:roll: :roll:

[red1]

:roll: :roll:
???

[TheMarkMadsen]

:roll: :roll:


your right Kobe's came in a close out game against the 01 Kings>>>12 Celtics and he had 48 & 16 not 45 & 15

Kobe waited for the very next playoff game before he dipped down to a 45 point double double

[HoopsFanNumero1]

All those guys in the front page are a disgrace to basketball. How can you not appreciate a great performance?

[Solefade]

???


kobe-esque performance? please.

[Lebron23]

All those guys in the front page are a disgrace to basketball. How can you not appreciate a great performance?


Just ignore them. Most of them are trolls, and Kobetards.

[aj1987]

your right Kobe's came in a close out game against the 01 Kings>>>12 Celtics and he had 48 & 16 not 45 & 15

Kobe waited for the very next playoff game before he dipped down to a 45 point double double
Kobe in the Finals in '01 - 24.6/7.8/5.8/1.4/1.4 w/ 3.6 TOV on 50% TS

Lebron in the Finals in '12 - 28.6/10.2/7.4/1.4/0.4 w/ 3.8 TOV on 55.8% TS

[Solefade]

your right Kobe's came in a close out game against the 01 Kings>>>12 Celtics and he had 48 & 16 not 45 & 15

Kobe waited for the very next playoff game before he dipped down to a 45 point double double

except Kobe didn't have the same pressure going in and had Shaq.

LeBron went into this game with his legacy on the line, with an injured Bosh and Wade.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Kobe in the Finals in '01 - 24.6/7.8/5.8/1.4/1.4 w/ 3.6 TOV on 50% TS

Lebron in the Finals in '12 - 28.6/10.2/7.4/1.4/0.4 w/ 3.8 TOV on 55.8% TS


Kobe 2001 playoff run: 29.4/7/6 on 47%


Lebron 2013 playoff run: 25.9/8/7 on 49%


Kobe 2002 finals: 27/6/5 on 51%

Lebron 2013 finals: 25/11/7 on 45%

nice to see prime Lebron on 21 & 22 YO Kobe's level :applause:

[TheMarkMadsen]

except Kobe didn't have the same pressure going in and had Shaq.

LeBron went into this game with his legacy on the line, with an injured Bosh and Wade.

due to previous failures and mostly due to the 2011 finals the year before

also the inability to not close out a over the hill Celtics in less than 7 games after the HEAT were the undisputed favorites..

the only reason there was so much "pressure" was because there was so much surprise that the HEAT had put themselves in jeopardy of being eliminated in 5 games against an aging Celtics

[Solefade]

Kobe 2001 playoff run: 29.4/7/6 on 47%


Lebron 2013 playoff run: 25.9/8/7 on 49%


Kobe 2002 finals: 27/6/5 on 51%

Lebron 2013 finals: 25/11/7 on 45%

nice to see prime Lebron on 21 & 22 YO Kobe's level :applause:

2002: Kobe got gifted a pass to the finals by the refs then played the crappy Nets

2013 Bulls and Pacers were the top defenses in the league :confusedshrug:

[Solefade]

due to previous failures and mostly due to the 2011 finals the year before

also the inability to not close out a over the hill Celtics in less than 7 games after the HEAT were the undisputed favorites..

the only reason there was so much "pressure" was because there was so much surprise that the HEAT had put themselves in jeopardy of being eliminated in 5 games against an aging Celtics

So? He ended up winning this game on his own in 3 quarters basically. Kobe never got the same pressure because he got carried to his first 3 rings by Shaq.

[aj1987]

Kobe 2001 playoff run: 29.4/7/6 on 47%


Lebron 2013 playoff run: 25.9/8/7 on 49%


Kobe 2002 finals: 27/6/5 on 51%

Lebron 2013 finals: 25/11/7 on 45%

nice to see prime Lebron on 21 & 22 YO Kobe's level :applause:
Must be nice having a top 5 GOAT drawing all the attention, right?

Lebron's playoff runs at 21 & 22:

Lebron '06 playoff run: 31/8/6 on 56%
Lebron '07 playoff run: 25/8/8 on 52%


Lebron playoff career avg: 28/9/7/2/1 on 47%
Kobe playoff career avg: 26/5/5/2/1 on 45%

[pauk]

Well yeah, but LeBron's game was slightly more important also away.

More important & had a much more versatile scoring night aswell, he used his entire reportoire from every spot offensively, no basket was the same.

[Lebron23]

Must be nice having a top 5 GOAT drawing all the attention, right?

Lebron's playoff runs at 21 & 22:

Lebron '06 playoff run: 31/8/6 on 56%
Lebron '07 playoff run: 25/8/8 on 52%


Lebron playoff career avg: 28/9/7/2/1 on 47%
Kobe playoff career avg: 26/5/5/2/1 on 45%


Aj1987 just ended this thread.

[Crafty]

Must be nice having a top 5 GOAT drawing all the attention, right?

Lebron's playoff runs at 21 & 22:

Lebron '06 playoff run: 31/8/6 on 56%
Lebron '07 playoff run: 25/8/8 on 52%


Lebron playoff career avg: 28/9/7/2/1 on 47%
Kobe playoff career avg: 26/5/5/2/1 on 45%
http://i.imgur.com/p8oPz6W.gif

[TheMarkMadsen]

2002: Kobe got gifted a pass to the finals by the refs then played the crappy Nets

2013 Bulls and Pacers were the top defenses in the league :confusedshrug:


2001 run to the finals

2001 Blazers: (50-32) 6th in Opp PTS/GM. 9th overall in DRT. SRS 5th of 29. Offensive Rating: 7th overall

Kobe: 25/4/8/2 on 57% TS

2001 Kings: (55-27) 13th in Opp PTS/GM. Def Rtg 7th overall. SRS 2nd of 29. Offensive Rating: 9th overall

Kobe: 35/9/4/1 on 59% TS

2001 Spurs: (58-24) 3rd in Opp PTS/GM. Def Rtg 1st overall. SRS. 1st overall. Offensive Rating: 6th Overall

Kobe: 33/7/7/2 on 57% TS


2013 run to the finals

2013 Bucks: (38-44) 20th in Opp PTS/GM. Def Rtg 12th overall. SRS 18th of 30. Offensive Rating: 22nd overall

Lebron: 25/8/7/1 on 68% TS

2013 Bulls: (45-37) 3rd in Opp PTS/GM. Def Rtg 6th overall. SRS 14th of 30 Offensive Rating: 23rd overall

Lebron: 24/7/8/2 on 57% TS


2013 Pacers: (49-32) 2nd in OPP PTS/GM. Def Rtg 1st overall. SRS 9th of 30. Offensive Rating: 20th overall

Lebron: 29/7/5/1 on 61% TS



Lebron went through an entire eastern conference without having to play a 50 win team. In 2001, the Lakers led by Kobe through the WCSF & WCF faced 50 win teams in every round, including a 58 win Spurs team in the WCF.

Not only were the teams the 2001 Lakers facing better defensively than Lebrons competition.. they were HEAD AND SHOULDERS better offensively.

The only two good defensive teams Lebron faced (Chicago & IND) were in the bottom 10 of the ENTIRE LEAGUE offensively. While the teams the Lakers were facing throughout the entire Western Conference playoffs were all TOP 10 offensive teams in the entire league..


This is a 22YO Kobe shredding through better teams than a prime Lebron with better scoring and better overall stats in a some series..

[aj1987]

Lebron went through an entire eastern conference without having to play a 50 win team. In 2001, the Lakers led by Kobe through the WCSF & WCF faced 50 win teams in every round, including a 58 win Spurs team in the WCF.

Not only were the teams the 2001 Lakers facing better defensively than Lebrons competition.. they were HEAD AND SHOULDERS better offensively.

The only two good defensive teams Lebron faced (Chicago & IND) were in the bottom 10 of the ENTIRE LEAGUE offensively. While the teams the Lakers were facing throughout the entire Western Conference playoffs were all TOP 10 offensive teams in the entire league..


This is a 22YO Kobe shredding through better teams than a prime Lebron with better scoring and better overall stats in a some series..

Before the Finals, the best player on the Lakers was averaging 29/15/3/2 on 56% TS and 33/16/5/3 on 58% in the Finals.

The second best player on the Heat averaged 14/5/5 on 50% TS and the Heat's center averaged 7 RPG. 12/7 on 54% TS. Shaq averaged more than Wade and Bosh COMBINED. Your numbers do tend to drop and you draw more defensive attention, if your second best player is injured and your starting center is absolutely useless at rebounding, scoring, and defending.

21 year old Lebron with absolute scrubs on his team:
Wizards (5th in Off Rtg and 22nd in Def Rtg) - 36/7/6 on 60%
Pistons (4th in Off Rtg and 5th in Def Rtg) - 27/9/6 on 52%

Also, why are you ignoring the Finals?
Kobe - 25/8/6/2/1 on 50%
Lebron - 25/11/7/2/1 on 53%

[TheMarkMadsen]

Before the Finals, the best player on the Lakers was averaging 29/15/3/2 on 56% TS and 33/16/5/3 on 58% in the Finals.

The second best player on the Heat averaged 14/5/5 on 50% TS and the Heat's center averaged 7 RPG. 12/7 on 54% TS. Shaq averaged more than Wade and Bosh COMBINED. Your numbers do tend to drop and you draw more defensive attention, if your second best player is injured and your starting center is absolutely useless at rebounding, scoring, and defending.


way to go after the only part of the post that was semi opinionated since you don't have shit to say against the facts that were posted

:roll:

[Solefade]

2001 run to the finals

2001 Blazers: (50-32) 6th in Opp PTS/GM. 9th overall in DRT. SRS 5th of 29. Offensive Rating: 7th overall

Kobe: 25/4/8/2 on 57% TS

2001 Kings: (55-27) 13th in Opp PTS/GM. Def Rtg 7th overall. SRS 2nd of 29. Offensive Rating: 9th overall

Kobe: 35/9/4/1 on 59% TS

2001 Spurs: (58-24) 3rd in Opp PTS/GM. Def Rtg 1st overall. SRS. 1st overall. Offensive Rating: 6th Overall

Kobe: 33/7/7/2 on 57% TS


2013 run to the finals

2013 Bucks: (38-44) 20th in Opp PTS/GM. Def Rtg 12th overall. SRS 18th of 30. Offensive Rating: 22nd overall

Lebron: 25/8/7/1 on 68% TS

2013 Bulls: (45-37) 3rd in Opp PTS/GM. Def Rtg 6th overall. SRS 14th of 30 Offensive Rating: 23rd overall

Lebron: 24/7/8/2 on 57% TS


2013 Pacers: (49-32) 2nd in OPP PTS/GM. Def Rtg 1st overall. SRS 9th of 30. Offensive Rating: 20th overall

Lebron: 29/7/5/1 on 61% TS



Lebron went through an entire eastern conference without having to play a 50 win team. In 2001, the Lakers led by Kobe through the WCSF & WCF faced 50 win teams in every round, including a 58 win Spurs team in the WCF.

Not only were the teams the 2001 Lakers facing better defensively than Lebrons competition.. they were HEAD AND SHOULDERS better offensively.

The only two good defensive teams Lebron faced (Chicago & IND) were in the bottom 10 of the ENTIRE LEAGUE offensively. While the teams the Lakers were facing throughout the entire Western Conference playoffs were all TOP 10 offensive teams in the entire league..


This is a 22YO Kobe shredding through better teams than a prime Lebron with better scoring and better overall stats in a some series..


Just sit your ass down and watch the youtube video OP posted of the top 5 GOAT playoff performances kthx

[Frozen1]

People don

[Derka]

What a game.

There was literally nothing the Celtics could have done to stop this performance, short of all aging backwards into their late 20s...and even then?

[aj1987]

way to go after the only part of the post that was semi opinionated since you don't have shit to say against the facts that were posted

:roll:
I would, but I have no idea why you're comparing one of Kobe's best playoff runs to one of Lebron's more mediocre ones. Even then, it's arguable that Lebron is better. Show's how good a player he is that you're comparing the best to a mediocre one.

Also, you brought up context by including the team records and ratings. I did the same by pointing out the roster differences and the injuries to KEY Heat players.

[Lebron23]

I watched this game again. Lebron turned Super Saiyan in this series against a very great defensive team. 2012 Celtics had a better defensive rating than the 2008 Celtics and 2010 Celtics.

2012 Boston Celtics : Def Rtg: 98.2 (1st of 30)

2010 Boston Celtics: Def Rtg: 103.8 (5th of 30)

2008 Boston Celtics: Def Rtg: 98.9 (1st of 30)

[Illuminati]

Legendary performance.

[Lebron23]

Legendary performance.


33/11/6 on 53 FG% vs. a 98.2 (defensive rating) aka the best defensive team in the league since the 2004 Detroit Pistons.

[215Philly]

This game really saved his legacy :applause:

[6 for 24]

I wish my fellow Kobe fans wouldn't hate on LeBron so much. This was an excellent game by "the King". His PER (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=324201)

[215Philly]

[QUOTE=6 for 24]I wish my fellow Kobe fans wouldn't hate on LeBron so much. This was an excellent game by "the King". His PER (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=324201)

[ballinhun8]

33/11/6 on 53 FG% vs. a 98.2 (defensive rating) aka the best defensive team in the league since the 2004 Detroit Pistons.



You know, I know, the WHOLE BOARD knows that even though there "defensive rating" may be better than the 2010 and 2008 C's squad, THAT Celtics team was not a better defensive unit than either of their counterparts.


To say they were the best defensive team since the 04 pistons is ludicrous. Numbers can only justify so little.

[Lebron23]

You know, I know, the WHOLE BOARD knows that even though there "defensive rating" may be better than the 2010 and 2008 C's squad, THAT Celtics team was not a better defensive unit than either of their counterparts.


To say they were the best defensive team since the 04 pistons is ludicrous. Numbers can only justify so little.


Bosh also missed 4 games in the conference finals, and Wade was just above average in that series.

Give some credit to the Celtics. They really played their @$$ off against Miami. They were leading the series at 3-2 before Lebron 's 45 points performance in a do or die game.

I think Brandon Bass had his best performance in his NBA Career with the 2012 Boston Celtics.

[chazzy]

You know, I know, the WHOLE BOARD knows that even though there "defensive rating" may be better than the 2010 and 2008 C's squad, THAT Celtics team was not a better defensive unit than either of their counterparts.


To say they were the best defensive team since the 04 pistons is ludicrous. Numbers can only justify so little.
Offensive play was down throughout the league because of the lockout/compressed schedule, so the ratings were a bit skewed

[Lebron23]

Legendary Performance by LeBron. His best individual game of his career.

[Marchesk]

Legendary Performance by LeBron. His best individual game of his career.

It was Wilt-like. :applause:

[Lebron23]

It was Wilt-like. :applause:


http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1088089/lebrondunk.gif

[ImmortalNemesis]

This game hurt.

He couldn't miss. It was incredible to watch. If they lost, his legacy was ruined. Down two going into an elimination game in Boston, and LeBron somehow won the series for the Heat.

Legendary performance.

[Wade's Rings]

Bosh also missed 4 games in the conference finals, and Wade was just above average in that series.

Give some credit to the Celtics. They really played their @$$ off against Miami. They were leading the series at 3-2 before Lebron 's 45 points performance in a do or die game.

I think Brandon Bass had his best performance in his NBA Career with the 2012 Boston Celtics.

He was getting Double-Teamed most of the series.

[Nash]

Legendary Performance by LeBron. His best individual game of his career.
Yeah.

But I do think his 37 point game 7 in finals of 2013 more impressive.

[ArbitraryWater]

Yeah.

But I do think his 37 point game 7 in finals of 2013 more impressive.

why? what do you mean 'more impressive' ? I think his 2012 G6 is easily better

[RRR3]

He was getting Double-Teamed most of the series.
This is true. I remember that. The Celtics took him out of it pretty effectively but it didn't matter in the end. Chalmers stepped up all playoffs that year :pimp:
And Battier and Miller went nuts in the finals. Miller only one game but it was a crazy game and the final one.

Battier was weird in the playoffs. Both in 2012 and 2013 he was atrocious until the finals, and then he suddenly started shooting like curry.

[STATUTORY]

Lebron doing work in transition and against single coverage


Kobe would dropped 60+ against same defense

[Papaya Petee]

Lebron doing work in transition and against single coverage


Kobe would dropped 60+ against same defense
Care to bring up Kobes averages against the Celtics both times he faced them? Give us shootinv percentages too!

[ShawkFactory]

Lebron doing work in transition and against single coverage


Kobe would dropped 60+ against same defense
:lebroncry:

[JohnMax]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-VzBeOrdAg

Lebron James 19/26 FG 2-4 3PT 5-9 FT 45 PTS

13 Jump Shots: 0:23, 0:37, 1:15, 1:56, 2:10, 2:15, 2:38, 2:46, 3:33, 4:43, 4:51, 5:21, 5:42

2 Fastbreaks: 0:07, 0:42

1 Putback: 3:04

1 Bank Shot: 3:55

1 Floater: 4:14

1 Cut: 6:00

[ShawkFactory]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-VzBeOrdAg

Lebron James 19/26 FG 2-4 3PT 5-9 FT 45 PTS

13 Jump Shots: 0:23, 0:37, 1:15, 1:56, 2:10, 2:15, 2:38, 2:46, 3:33, 4:43, 4:51, 5:21, 5:42

2 Fastbreaks: 0:07, 0:42

1 Putback: 3:04

1 Bank Shot: 3:55

1 Floater: 4:14

1 Cut: 6:00
Absolutely amazing :applause:

[Nash]

why? what do you mean 'more impressive' ? I think his 2012 G6 is easily better
Individually, the Boston game was better.

But producing 37 points on the most important game a player can play, thats impressive as hell.

[STATUTORY]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7lpYWRMOy4
better performance by Kobe against double and triple teams

on the road without 2 HoFers by his side

literally every shot Kobe takes, there are 2 celtics right in the vicinity

yet he drops 10 points in 4 mins

we talking abotu Bran doe :roll:

LOOK at how they defending Kobe, DOUBLING him at the three point line

compare that to the TRASH single coverage they showing Lebron

when you compare stats, keep that in mind

[Nash]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7lpYWRMOy4
better performance by Kobe against double and triple teams

on the road without 2 HoFers by his side

literally every shot Kobe takes, there are 2 celtics right in the vicinity

yet he drops 10 points in 4 mins

we talking abotu Bran doe :roll:
bran is better than kobe at everything.

Name something kobe is better at.

scoring? lol
clutch? exposed that already

can't wait for more 'he's better at taking fadeaway shots when the clock is 8:47, from the right side of the court on a rainy day'


we've exposed it all.

[STATUTORY]

bran is better than kobe at everything.

Name something kobe is better at.

scoring? lol
clutch? exposed that already

can't wait for more 'he's better at taking fadeaway shots when the clock is 8:47, from the right side of the court on a rainy day'


we've exposed it all.

yea he's a better scorer, it's not even close really. The proof is how team defend them

the day that Lebron is double teamed at the three point line consistently and still puts up 30+ ppg then I will admit he's a kobe tier scorer

until then all I see is a dude that defense is perfectly content sticking Steph Curry on for stretches at a time

but keep reading them fg% you mongoloid miscreant, peons of your ilk don't even understand the numbers you are looking at

[red1]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7lpYWRMOy4
better performance by Kobe against double and triple teams

on the road without 2 HoFers by his side

literally every shot Kobe takes, there are 2 celtics right in the vicinity

yet he drops 10 points in 4 mins

we talking abotu Bran doe :roll:

LOOK at how they defending Kobe, DOUBLING him at the three point line

compare that to the TRASH single coverage they showing Lebron

when you compare stats, keep that in mind
it is already too late my brother. lbj>kobe now and forever. he can go 2/10 and that wouldnt change a thing

acceptance is key

[RRR3]

bran is better than kobe at everything.

Name something kobe is better at.

scoring? lol
clutch? exposed that already

can't wait for more 'he's better at taking fadeaway shots when the clock is 8:47, from the right side of the court on a rainy day'


we've exposed it all.
That's entirely debatable, and a good argument could be made for Kobe.

Kobe is definitely better at:

*Midrange shooting
*Shooting overall
*Free throws
*Isolation scoring

[ShawkFactory]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7lpYWRMOy4
better performance by Kobe against double and triple teams

on the road without 2 HoFers by his side

literally every shot Kobe takes, there are 2 celtics right in the vicinity

yet he drops 10 points in 4 mins

we talking abotu Bran doe :roll:

LOOK at how they defending Kobe, DOUBLING him at the three point line

compare that to the TRASH single coverage they showing Lebron

when you compare stats, keep that in mind
There's no world where this is a better performance :lol

Sorry bud.

[Nash]

yea he's a better scorer, it's not even close really. The proof is how team defend them

the day that Lebron is double teamed at the three point line consistently and still puts up 30+ ppg then I will admit he's a kobe tier scorer

until then all I see is a dude that defense is perfectly content sticking Steph Curry on for stretches at a time

but keep reading them fg% you mongoloid miscreant, peons of your ilk don't even understand the numbers you are looking at
do you know why Kobe gets double teamed more on the 3p line than Lebron? Because lebron would kill you finding the open teammate. Kobe doesn't do that.

Stop acting as if Lebron isn't double teamed because he's not good. He doesn't get double teamed because he's too good and too complete of a player.

[red1]

do you know why Kobe gets double teamed more on the 3p line than Lebron? Because lebron would kill you finding the open teammate. Kobe doesn't do that.

Stop acting as if Lebron isn't double teamed because he's not good. He doesn't get double teamed because he's too good and too complete of a player.
well said my fellow scholar. kobe is just not an intelligent basketball player


#retardgonnaretard
http://www.singleblackmale.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Kobe-over-entire-Bulls-team.jpg

[Magic 32]

Lebron specializes in having his legacy games against former great teams with one foot in the grave (2007 Pistons, 2012 Celtics).

I'm glad the 2014 Spurs turned the table on him and smacked him in his whiny mouth. :bowdown:

[red1]

Lebron specializes in having his legacy games against former great teams with one foot in the grave (2007 Pistons, 2012 Celtics).

I'm glad the 2014 Spurs turned the table on him and smacked him in his whiny mouth. :bowdown:
hey buddy is something irritating you? :oldlol:

http://static.sportskeeda.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/lebron_james_cigar-1780833.jpg

[Magic 32]

hey buddy is something irritating you? :oldlol:

http://static.sportskeeda.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/lebron_james_cigar-1780833.jpg

I don't get mad about old stuff.

This is much more vivid in my mind...

https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/iggytrophy.jpg?w=720&h=480&crop=1

[Heavincent]

do you know why Kobe gets double teamed more on the 3p line than Lebron?

Because he's one of the best scorers of all time and will slaughter single coverage.

[red1]

I don't get mad about old stuff.

This is much more vivid in my mind...

https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/iggytrophy.jpg?w=720&h=480&crop=1
great series by the warriors and heroic effort by lbj :applause: well deserved

[Lebron23]

Magic32 stays losing. Get Kobe's D1ck out of your V@gina.

[Magic 32]

great series by the warriors and heroic effort by lbj :applause: well deserved

Inefficient is now heroic?

This is ironic.

[Magic 32]

Magic32 stays losing. Get Kobe's D1ck out of your V@gina.

You know about losing.

Not sure you know about V@gina.

[Lebron23]

You know about losing.

Not sure you know about V@gina.


You are a sore loser. I wish Kobe is healthy. Lebron is going to continue kicking his @$$ in their head to head match up.

[red1]

Inefficient is now heroic?

This is ironic.
Heroic indeed. No second or third option and the entire team running on fumes but still pushed the best team in the league to 6-games and gave us a series to watch.

http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2015/6/17/8795727/lebron-james-stats-nba-finals-cavaliers-warriors-michael-jordan

[Magic 32]

You are a sore loser. I wish Kobe is healthy. Lebron is going to continue kicking his @$$ in their head to head match up.

Regular season?

http://www.blogging4jobs.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/giphy-1.gif

[Magic 32]

[QUOTE=red1]Heroic indeed. No second or third option and the entire team running on fumes but still pushed the best team in the league to 6-games and gave us a series to watch.

No team can have second and third options when the star shots 35 times and plays iso 40 times a game.

Lebron would not have made it out of the first round in the west with that play.

Not heroic.

Just a lot of bad basketball and the benefits of the east.

[Mr Feeny]

Regular season?

http://www.blogging4jobs.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/giphy-1.gif

We'll Kobe's not gonna be making the finals, now is he?:lol
:lebronamazed:

[red1]

No team can have second and third options when the star shots 35 times and plays iso 40 times a game.

Lebron would not have made it out of the first round in the west. Kyrie or not.

Not heroic.

Just a lot of bad basketball and the benefits of the east.
Dont start trolling boy because as a kobe fanboy it won't end well for you. :oldlol:

[Wade's Rings]

We'll Kobe's not gonna be making the finals, now is he?:lol
:lebronamazed:

LeBron should've made it there in 2010.

[aj1987]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7lpYWRMOy4
better performance by Kobe against double and triple teams

on the road without 2 HoFers by his side

literally every shot Kobe takes, there are 2 celtics right in the vicinity

yet he drops 10 points in 4 mins

we talking abotu Bran doe :roll:

LOOK at how they defending Kobe, DOUBLING him at the three point line

compare that to the TRASH single coverage they showing Lebron

when you compare stats, keep that in mind
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Not even remotely close to being a better performance. Kobe went 2-6 in the 4th Q for 9 points. 5 of those came off of FT's, BTW.

[Nash]

LeBron should've made it there in 2010.
yeah, he should have made run through them celtic big 3 with mo and jamison just like that.

[Wade's Rings]

yeah, he should have made run through them celtic big 3 with mo and jamison just like that.

After the Cavs went up 2-1 Lebron shot 34% with 6 Turnovers a Game to close out the series. This stretch includes his quit Game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d-Mnfz6iB0

[J Shuttlesworth]

Inefficient is now heroic?

This is ironic.
Isn't that why you praise Kobe so much?

[Nash]

After the Cavs went up 2-1 Lebron shot 34% with 6 Turnovers a Game to close out the series. This stretch includes his quit Game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d-Mnfz6iB0
and he did that on purpose or Boston Celtics figuring out how to put Lebron in a position to fail?

[Mr Feeny]

Isn't that why you praise Kobe so much?

Don't do him like dat:biggums: that was cold.

[Mr Feeny]

WHAT a game. The emergence of darth bran:lol

[ShawkFactory]

And still a better game than the "legendary game" or "forever remembered game" by Lebron.

The only thing legendary here is the overrating.
ACTUALLY the dumbest thing I've seen posted on here :lol

[Lebron23]

Video Games LeBron.

[Lebron23]

Watching the game again.

[light]

Bill Simmons was at this game and wrote about it. It's a great read.

https://s6.gifyu.com/images/separator-light1378072ed9159071.gif

"I don’t know what happened. I just know the shots wouldn’t stop going in. After about the fifth dagger in a row (he made 10 straight), the crowd started groaning on every make — shades of Philly’s Andrew Toney ripping our hearts out 30 years ago. If you’ve ever been in the building for one of those games, you know there isn’t a deadlier sound. He single-handedly murdered one of the giddiest Celtics crowds I can remember. Thirty points in the first half. Thirty! All with that blank look on his face. It was like watching surveillance video of a serial killer coldly dismembering a body and sticking the parts in the fridge. Only we were right there.

You can’t imagine what this was like to witness in person. I know Michael Jordan had similarly astonishing games, and others, too, but not with stakes like that. This wasn’t just an elimination game. This was LeBron James’s entire career being put on trial … and it only took an hour for him to tell the jury, 'Go home. I’m one of the best players ever. Stop picking me apart. Stop talking about the things I can’t do. Stop holding me to standards that have never been applied to any other NBA player. Stop blaming me for an admittedly dumb decision I never should have made. Stop saying I’m weak. Stop saying that I don’t want to win. Stop. Just … stop.'

As a Celtics fan, I was devastated. As a basketball fan, I appreciated the performance for what it was. One of the greatest players ever was playing one of his greatest games ever. He swallowed up every other relevant story line. Needless to say, the Celtics couldn’t match him — especially Pierce, who’s worn down from four weeks of battling Andre Iguodala, Shane Battier and LeBron on one leg and appears to be running on fumes of his fumes’ fumes at this point. The fans were so shell-shocked that many (including me and my father) filed out with three minutes remaining, not because we were lousy fans, not to beat the traffic, but because we didn’t want to be there anymore. We wanted to get away from LeBron. He ruined what should have been a magical night. We never really had a chance to cheer, swing the game, rally our guys, anything. He pointed a remote control at us and pressed 'MUTE.' It was like being in a car accident. LeBron James ran over 18,000 people."

https://s6.gifyu.com/images/separator-light1378072ed9159071.gif

[3ball]

Garnett/Allen/Pierce were 35/36/33 years old

Only lebron gets credit for beating fossils

Duncan/Ginobili/Parker were 35/36/31 when lebron lucked out in 13'

Everything lebron does falls short of goat

[Wally450]

Garnett/Allen/Pierce were 35/36/33 years old

Only lebron gets credit for beating fossils

Duncan/Ginobili/Parker were 35/36/31 when lebron lucked out in 13'

Everything lebron does falls short of goat

You're so insecure.

[3ball]

You're so insecure.

Just pointing out facts

Why praise lebron for beating up on old guys that he was supposed to beat years ago?... but played like dogshit and lost as massive favorite?

Lebron is overrated

For every fake knock you have on Jordan, there's 5 legitimate knocks on lebron - actual FACTS where he played like trash or lost when expected to win

[Rico2016]

Bill Simmons was at this game and wrote about it. It's a great read.

https://s6.gifyu.com/images/separator-light1378072ed9159071.gif

"I don’t know what happened. I just know the shots wouldn’t stop going in. After about the fifth dagger in a row (he made 10 straight), the crowd started groaning on every make — shades of Philly’s Andrew Toney ripping our hearts out 30 years ago. If you’ve ever been in the building for one of those games, you know there isn’t a deadlier sound. He single-handedly murdered one of the giddiest Celtics crowds I can remember. Thirty points in the first half. Thirty! All with that blank look on his face. It was like watching surveillance video of a serial killer coldly dismembering a body and sticking the parts in the fridge. Only we were right there.

You can’t imagine what this was like to witness in person. I know Michael Jordan had similarly astonishing games, and others, too, but not with stakes like that. This wasn’t just an elimination game. This was LeBron James’s entire career being put on trial … and it only took an hour for him to tell the jury, 'Go home. I’m one of the best players ever. Stop picking me apart. Stop talking about the things I can’t do. Stop holding me to standards that have never been applied to any other NBA player. Stop blaming me for an admittedly dumb decision I never should have made. Stop saying I’m weak. Stop saying that I don’t want to win. Stop. Just … stop.'

As a Celtics fan, I was devastated. As a basketball fan, I appreciated the performance for what it was. One of the greatest players ever was playing one of his greatest games ever. He swallowed up every other relevant story line. Needless to say, the Celtics couldn’t match him — especially Pierce, who’s worn down from four weeks of battling Andre Iguodala, Shane Battier and LeBron on one leg and appears to be running on fumes of his fumes’ fumes at this point. The fans were so shell-shocked that many (including me and my father) filed out with three minutes remaining, not because we were lousy fans, not to beat the traffic, but because we didn’t want to be there anymore. We wanted to get away from LeBron. He ruined what should have been a magical night. We never really had a chance to cheer, swing the game, rally our guys, anything. He pointed a remote control at us and pressed 'MUTE.' It was like being in a car accident. LeBron James ran over 18,000 people."

https://s6.gifyu.com/images/separator-light1378072ed9159071.gif

https://media.giphy.com/media/Q9FGOQewX92eRRO9Qi/giphy.gif

[Lebron23]

http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1088089/lebrondunk.gif

We might see this LeBron tomorrow.

[Lebron23]

best game of all time

[Lebron23]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN17J-KMWnY That Game was almost a decade ago.

[RRR3]

I’ve never seen him play so devoid of emotion as he did in this game. He usually is very exuberant, he was like the terminator in this one though.

[8Ball]

This is his magnus opus game.

Probably the game that made the most people on planet earth butt hurt.

I remember where I was watching it.

[SouBeachTalents]

Greatest performance of the 21st century.

[GimmeThat]

what a tattoo artist

[SouBeachTalents]

what a tattoo artist

Biggest fakkit of the 21st century.

[GimmeThat]

Biggest fakkit of the 21st century.

I wouldn't tattoo that into the mind, but since you asked.

[Johnny32]

"You can’t imagine what this was like to witness in person. I know Michael Jordan had similarly astonishing games, and others, too, but not with stakes like that. This wasn’t just an elimination game. This was LeBron James’s entire career being put on trial … and it only took an hour for him to tell the jury, 'Go home. I’m one of the best players ever. Stop picking me apart. Stop talking about the things I can’t do. Stop holding me to standards that have never been applied to any other NBA player."

they're still doing this and we all know why.

"plz wuv my childhood hero michael jordan, plz. he will always be the goat to me."

[kawhileonard2]

Was down 3-2 to a team that didn't win 50 games nor if you had projected victories would had won 50 games. Basically a 1st round team.

[Shooter]

The crazy thing is look at how much Wade and Bosh scored that game too. If LeBron doesn't go full LeGoat they lose that game and the series.

Wade shot 35% (6 for 17)
Bosh shot 38% (3 for 8)

[kawhileonard2]

The crazy thing is look at how much Wade and Bosh scored that game too. If LeBron doesn't go full LeGoat they lose that game and the series.

Wade shot 35% (6 for 17)
Bosh shot 38% (3 for 8)

Crazy thing is you need to answer these

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459570

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495113-Vassilis-Spanoulis-Giannis-Antetokounmpo-s-And-Luka-Doncic-s-Idol-Retired
https://www.espn.com/olympics/wbc2006/news/story?id=2568543

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495940-Lebron-with-Shaq-2nd-round-exit-Giannis-with-Middleton-a-Title

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495955-Giannis-just-blasted-those-who-join-super-teams-in-post-conference-interview

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493982-Devin-Booker-Vs-Lebron-James-who-is-better-currently

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496253-Lebron-won-2-bronze-medals-for-the-United-States-of-America-How

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496256-Lebron-with-Tim-Duncan-Bronze-Medal-in-Olympics-Vince-with-KG-Gold-Medal

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496255-Lebron-with-Carlos-Boozer-No-Playoffs-Deron-Williams-with-Carlos-Boozer-WCF

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496549-Lebron-stacking-the-deck-in-2022-because-he-is-afraid-of-Devin-Booker

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496831-times-when-each-top-10-player-all-time-Lost-when-they-were-expected-to-win

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?486706-Rob-Parker-LeBron-is-the-FFOAT

Record against teams with an SRS of 5.0 or higher.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497187-Record-against-teams-with-an-SRS-of-5-0-or-higher

Not 3, not 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or Playoff Mode Activated or A Storm is Coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494319-Not-3-not-4-5-6-7-8-or-Playoff-Mode-Activated-or-A-Storm-is-Coming/page2


Playoff Mode: ACTIVATED
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?473762-Playoff-Mode-ACTIVATED

Lowest Scoring Supporting Cast Overall Playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?463869-Lowest-Scoring-Supporting-Cast-Overall-Playoffs/page3


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499837-Greatest-floor-raise-of-all-time/page2
Lebron played with Shaq who won league mvp and 3 finals mvp's and lost in round 2. Lebron played with Peak Duncan who had won 2 league mvp's and 3 finals mvp's and won bronze medal. Lebron played with Peak Wade who won finals mvp and got outplayed by Jason Terry. Lebron played with Derrick Rose who won mvp under age 30 which was the same as Kevin Durant who won mvp under 30 while both were on Golden State and Cleveland. Lebron played with mulitple PER leaders as well and now Russell Westbrook a league mvp winner and more triple doubles than Oscar Robertson. Yet despite all of that Lebron lost with all of them.


Jarrett Allen vs Gobert and Jarrett Allen vs Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499786-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Gobert-and-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500431-Lakers-were-1-in-Preseason-Odds-in-2021-and-Suns-were-14
Was #1 in Preseason odds and lost to a 14th seed in odds

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_preseason_odds.html

And Devin Booker walked them down in the playoffs with Devin outplaying Lebron. :confusedshrug:


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500416-Why-did-Pelinka-surround-Lebron-with-a-bullshit-roster
He has peak Anthony Davis, the best player on the 2020 squad and the reason the Lakers did anything as the 2019 Lakers missed the playoffs and 2021 Lakers lost in round 1 when AD wasn't around. He has Prime Melo who won a scoring title and all time leader in scoring for the Olympics. He has Dwight Howard a 3x DPOY and a guy who beat Lebron without HCA. He has Westbrook who is the modern day Oscar Robertson and also won league mvp along with average a Triple Double 4 years in a row. He also has Rondo who is a hall of famer.

Why didn't he play it against Dwight Howard in 2009 when Dwight was dominating http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?459570-How-is-it-even-possible-to-lose-to-Dwight-Howard-in-a-series-with-HCA/page10? Or against Duncan or KG or Dirk? Why did he run away from KD a guy at his position?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head

Why didn't he do **** against Booker in the playoffs as well?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron


Devin Booker broke Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500264-Devin-Booker-broke-Lebron&p=14500724


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503966-3ball-why-can-LeBron-win-with-Irving-but-KD-can-t&p=14584482#post14584482

Lebron won bronze medal twice and lost with HCA 3x. Jordan only won gold medal and never lost with HCA. Prove me wrong!

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500440-Russell-Westbrook-leading-the-league-in-Triple-Doubles-Thus-far-in-2022-Season
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/triple-double-leaders-2021-2022-stats

Expected Championships Won and Titles Over Expected
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500379-Expected-Championships-Won-and-Titles-Over-Expected/page3&p=14503600


How did LeBron go 10-16 vs Kawhi? 7-12 vs Shaq? 17-23 vs Curry?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500334-How-did-LeBron-go-10-16-vs-Kawhi-7-12-vs-Shaq-17-23-vs-Curry

Top 50 All-Time List - Shot Clock Era = #1
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497028-Top-50-All-Time-List-Shot-Clock-Era-1&p=14426360&viewfull=1#post14426360


Difference between Lebron and Tmac?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494830-Difference-between-Lebron-and-Tmac
Both 0-2 with HCA against 50+ win teams until they joined forces with someone who won as the man. Also won bronze medals.

Tmac lost to Utah in 2007 while Lebron was losing to a career loser in Dwight Howard and also Carlos Arroyo in the Olympics with peak Tim Duncan on his squad despite playing more minutes than Hakeem even played on the 1996 Olympic team.



LeBron's message that makes the NBA shake: A storm is coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500734-LeBron-s-message-that-makes-the-NBA-shake-A-storm-is-coming

https://www.marca.com/en/more-sports/2021/04/09/6070b833ca47418e588b45e9.html


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?480740-Vasileios-Spanoulis-gt-gt-gt-Lebron-James
Outplayed Lebron in FIBA and caused America to get another bronze medal and then Greece got spanked in Gold medal final.:oldlol:

http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/game/p/gid/A/grid/75/rid/5152/sid/3507/_/2006_FIBA_World_Championship/statistic.html


First Time Ever a team with 2 guys who won MVP missed the playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503543-First-Time-Ever-a-team-with-2-guys-who-won-MVP-missed-the-playoffs


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503981-Why-does-Lebron-have-2-bronze-medals-while-KD-only-has-gold-medals&p=14584371#post14584371[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

[8Ball]

The crazy thing is look at how much Wade and Bosh scored that game too. If LeBron doesn't go full LeGoat they lose that game and the series.

Wade shot 35% (6 for 17)
Bosh shot 38% (3 for 8)

To be fair they played really good defense on Boston.

But offensively it really was a 1 man show.

[ImKobe]

The crazy thing is look at how much Wade and Bosh scored that game too. If LeBron doesn't go full LeGoat they lose that game and the series.

Wade shot 35% (6 for 17)
Bosh shot 38% (3 for 8)

Bran had an insane first half but Wade had 8 pts on 4/7 shooting in the 4th to Bran's 4 pts on 2/4 FG to hold off a Celtics comeback, it was only a 13 pt game with a quarter to go. Wade was also great in Game 7 and in the first 2 wins.

[Cold soul]

One of the greatest games by any player ever Lebron was in the zone just unreal performance. :applause:

[RRR3]

The crazy thing is look at how much Wade and Bosh scored that game too. If LeBron doesn't go full LeGoat they lose that game and the series.

Wade shot 35% (6 for 17)
Bosh shot 38% (3 for 8)
Bosh wasn’t 100%

[Lebron23]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-VzBeOrdAg

Lebron James 19/26 FG 2-4 3PT 5-9 FT 45 PTS

13 Jump Shots: 0:23, 0:37, 1:15, 1:56, 2:10, 2:15, 2:38, 2:46, 3:33, 4:43, 4:51, 5:21, 5:42

2 Fastbreaks: 0:07, 0:42

1 Putback: 3:04

1 Bank Shot: 3:55

1 Floater: 4:14

1 Cut: 6:00

And he did that against a great Celtics team who had the same defensive ratings as the 2004 Pistons and 2008 Celtics

https://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2012-nba-eastern-conference-finals-celtics-vs-heat.html

[Wally450]

And he did that against a great Celtics team who had the same defensive ratings as the 2004 Pistons and 2008 Celtics

https://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2012-nba-eastern-conference-finals-celtics-vs-heat.html

They probably had the same defensive rating, but I don't think anyone would mention the 2012 Celtics as an All Time Great defensive team like they do with the 2004 Pistons and 2008 Celtics.

Still impressive nonetheless.

[Johnny32]

legoat

[ShawkFactory]

Bran had an insane first half but Wade had 8 pts on 4/7 shooting in the 4th to Bran's 4 pts on 2/4 FG to hold off a Celtics comeback, it was only a 13 pt game with a quarter to go. Wade was also great in Game 7 and in the first 2 wins.

Come on...

[RRR3]

Come on...
He was sobbing uncontrollably that night for sure :lol

[j3lademaster]

I don't know if any athlete has ever faced as much pressure as 2012 Lebron. Maybe Jackie Robinson or Ali? But that was more for off the field, out of the ring type stuff.

Lebron was the laughing stock coming into the season, and after losing 3 in a row to the Celtics the narratives were amazing. If this wasn't overcoming pressure on an all-time level then idk what is.

[SouBeachTalents]

Bran had an insane first half but Wade had 8 pts on 4/7 shooting in the 4th to Bran's 4 pts on 2/4 FG to hold off a Celtics comeback, it was only a 13 pt game with a quarter to go. Wade was also great in Game 7 and in the first 2 wins.
:roll:

[ImKobe]

Come on...

What? Wade had the best +/- in the game and in the 2nd half and it was still a game going into the 4th and Wade scored & assisted on the first 7 pts early in the 4th to put the Heat up 18. I'm not sure if you watched the series but they had just dropped 3 straight with two close losses going into that Game 6.. Wade lowkey carried them in Game 7 as well as him & Bosh combined for 17 pts on 6/8 shooting in the 4th while Bran had 11 pts on 9 shots and Bosh and Wade had the key stretch in the last 4 minutes on both ends to put the series away.

[RRR3]

ImSobbing

[ShawkFactory]

What? Wade had the best +/- in the game and in the 2nd half and it was still a game going into the 4th and Wade scored & assisted on the first 7 pts early in the 4th to put the Heat up 18. I'm not sure if you watched the series but they had just dropped 3 straight with two close losses going into that Game 6.. Wade lowkey carried them in Game 7 as well as him & Bosh combined for 17 pts on 6/8 shooting in the 4th while Bran had 11 pts on 9 shots and Bosh and Wade had the key stretch in the last 4 minutes on both ends to put the series away.

What do you mean "what?" :lol

You said:

to hold off a Celtics comeback

It was a 25 point game when Lebron scored his last bucket with 7:15 left in the quarter. There was no comeback.

[ImKobe]

What do you mean "what?" :lol

You said:


It was a 25 point game when Lebron scored his last bucket with 7:15 left in the quarter. There was no comeback.

Exactly. Lebron didn't do anything in the 4th with the game still in reach for Boston. Wade put them away. Mad?

[ShawkFactory]

Exactly. Lebron didn't do anything in the 4th with the game still in reach for Boston. Wade put them away. Mad?

I don't think that's me :lol

The fact that you think you can and/or have to make that argument tells anyone all they need to know here.

[ImKobe]

He was sobbing uncontrollably that night for sure :lol

You think a Lakers' fan was rooting for Boston to make the Finals? I was disgusted by the Heat dropping 3 straight and giving these bums a chance to make the Finals. I'd rather have Bran win than the ****ing Celtics.

[j3lademaster]

What? Wade had the best +/- in the game and in the 2nd half and it was still a game going into the 4th and Wade scored & assisted on the first 7 pts early in the 4th to put the Heat up 18. Had this been Lebron your response would be "well they were already up double digits before he did that, so who cares?" and rightfully so.

[ImKobe]

I don't think that's me :lol

The fact that you think you can and/or have to make that argument tells anyone all they need to know here.

You said the game wasn't in reach with Boston down 13 at home with a quarter to go when the Heat had dropped 3 straight. Bran had an ATG first half with him making every mid-range shot and they still had to close it out, right?

[8Ball]

This was the greatest NBA game ever played bar none.

[ImKobe]

Had this been Lebron your response would be "well they were already up double digits before he did that, so who cares?" and rightfully so.

Not really. He'd have went for 50+ if it was just him closing out the game, which would have made it even more legendary, but that's not really the point.

My initial reply was to a troll who implied that Wade did nothing because of his overall shooting #s when he helped them put the Celtics away in the 4th.

Bran had an ATG first half and a solid 3rd quarter but the game wasn't over after that. That's all.

[ShawkFactory]

You said the game wasn't in reach with Boston down 13 at home with a quarter to go when the Heat had dropped 3 straight. Bran had an ATG first half with him making every mid-range shot and they still had to close it out, right?

No, I didn't. I said that Wade scoring a couple assisted buckets at the start of the 4th didn't hold off a comeback.

If anyone held off a comeback, it was Lebron is last few minutes of the 3rd. After he hit that 3 and then another shot when the Celtics brought it within 10? The Garden shut down. That was your ball game.

[ImKobe]

No, I didn't. I said that Wade scoring a couple assisted buckets at the start of the 4th didn't hold off a comeback.

If anyone held off a comeback, it was Lebron is last few minutes of the 3rd. After he hit that 3 and then another shot when the Celtics brought it within 10? The Garden shut down. That was your ball game.

You still have a shot down 13. Wade scored & assisted on 13 of the Heat's 15 points to open up the 4th and the lead went from 13 to 25. That's the game.

[ShawkFactory]

You still have a shot down 13. Wade scored & assisted on 13 of the Heat's 15 points to open up the 4th and the lead went from 13 to 25. That's the game.

Their spirits were completely destroyed. Outside of Lebron going off, the Heat were also absolutely swarming on defense in a slow-paced game. I think the Celtics scored 35 points in the second half.

They weren't coming back, and Wade getting some assisted buckets in the flow of the game against a demoralized team knowing that a guy on the other side is destroying them is not a closure. I'm pretty sure Lebron made his first two shots early in the 4th too.

But the game was closed before that and you know it. Or you don't, in which case there isn't much more to discuss. But it seems like you're arguing just to argue.

[ImKobe]

Their spirits were completely destroyed. Outside of Lebron going off, the Heat were also absolutely swarming on defense in a slow-paced game. I think the Celtics scored 35 points in the second half.

They weren't coming back, and Wade getting some assisted buckets in the flow of the game against a demoralized team knowing that a guy on the other side is destroying them is not a closure. I'm pretty sure Lebron made his first two shots early in the 4th too.

But the game was closed before that and you know it. Or you don't, in which case there isn't much more to discuss. But it seems like you're arguing just to argue.

I wasn't responding to you in the first place. If you think a 13-point lead is insurmountable at home, (especially for a team as experienced as the '12 Celtics, who had just won 3 straight) then so be it.

[ShawkFactory]

I wasn't responding to you in the first place. If you think a 13-point lead is insurmountable at home, (especially for a team as experienced as the '12 Celtics, who had just won 3 straight) then so be it.

When you've scored 16 and 18 in 2 of the 3 quarters thus far..and the other team has a guy who is continuing to not miss shots? Insurmountable? Maybe not. Was the Boston Garden no longer the advantage it was previously? No, they had the energy sucked out of them too. Where the Heat going to win regardless of if Wade makes a couple assisted buckets to start the 4th? Yea...I think you know they were.

You cherry-pick these possessions so aggressively that I'm certain you're intentionally not being fair. I actually just looked over the game 7 4th quarter play-by-play. The Heat were down 1 with 9:07 left and over the next 4 minutes Lebron scored 10 and assisted a Bosh 3 to get them up 7, a lead that would balloon from there. In that play-by-play...if you were to switch L. James with either C. Bosh or D. Wade I am absolutely positive that you would be talking about how those two scored/assisted the crucial buckets of the game and Lebron stat-padded once it was over. ABSOLUTELY positive...

Never been more sure of anything in my entire time here.

[RRR3]

LeBron has ruined ImKobe’s life

[ImKobe]

LeBron has ruined ImKobe’s life

You post more about me than I do about Bran.

[SouBeachTalents]

Everyone knows Wade was the best player on the floor in that Game 6. Literally one of the greatest 4th quarter performances in NBA history.

[Nb1]

Damn, that's inhuman :applause:

[RRR3]

You post more about me than I do about Bran.
You have almost 27k posts and the vast majority are about LeBron while I only talk about you when you’re being particularly stupid, so it seems highly unlikely that’s even close to true.

[Cold soul]

The greatest game by Lebron in his entire career.

[Shooter]

This was the greatest NBA game ever played bar none.

+1

[Bawkish]

+1

Luka managed to have the same impact in just 2 quarters

[ImKobe]

Luka managed to have the same impact in just 2 quarters

His first half was definitely on par with Lebron's against Boston.

[coastalmarker99]

I have no doubt in mind that Lebron would have dropped 60/20/7 if it was a close game the entire way.

[Lebron23]

Lebron became a legend in that series.

[IllegalD]

Whenever LeBron is about to get eliminated out of the playoffs (which happens quite often, especially since he started playing in the real competitive Western Conference), this pinoy fangirl always goes back to bump decade old threads to reminisce about a time when LeBron wasn't Joker's b*tch.