View Full Version : Carmelo Anthony Teaching Blake Griffin a thing or two
LosBulls
07-12-2012, 08:07 AM
http://youtu.be/1PjBPm3y9c0?hd=1
Why Melo get so much hate??? :confusedshrug:
He a good guy.
ZenMaster
07-12-2012, 08:12 AM
He's showing him his most inefficient shots, the ball stopping jab step dribble pull up series :applause:
Punpun
07-12-2012, 08:14 AM
Griffin chucked them. :oldlol:
Thats actually all Carmelo does...
Rnbizzle
07-12-2012, 08:43 AM
Thats actually all Carmelo does...
:facepalm
Why is it so hard for people to appreciate all great players for what they are? Melo is a great, great scorer. He's not a better player than Lebron Pauk, we get it.
All everybody does on ISH is praise their own favorite players by talking shit about everybody else's.
Fiasco
07-12-2012, 08:59 AM
:bowdown:
Carmelo Teachthony
Fiasco
07-12-2012, 09:02 AM
The one thing I noticed in Griffin's shot was his fluidity. No dumb pauses or hitches.
Optimus Prime
07-12-2012, 09:06 AM
Melo: "Ok Blake when you get the ball you must shoot the basketball."
Blake: "What if I'm doubled should I pass to the open teammate?"
Melo: "Pass????????"
:kobe:
Blue&Orange
07-12-2012, 09:10 AM
Thats actually all Carmelo does...
And yet it involves more skill than running into people.
Ketchup
07-12-2012, 09:11 AM
I love watching Melo when he's on. I don't think he's a particularly hard worker, and I think he's one of those players that gives up easily when the chips are against him so it doesn't reflect badly on him. So as if to say, well I wasn't all there, if I did show up, it would have been different. That's hardly the case though when you're a pro athlete and it is looked upon quite poorly.
Saying that though, he's my favorite player to watch when on. His jumpshot has to be one of the prettiest I've seen ever. Him and Mitch Richmond.
ZenMaster
07-12-2012, 09:12 AM
:facepalm
Why is it so hard for people to appreciate all great players for what they are? Melo is a great, great scorer. He's not a better player than Lebron Pauk, we get it.
All everybody does on ISH is praise their own favorite players by talking shit about everybody else's.
Just accept that not everybody else sees the game the same way you do.
The problem with Melo is that he plays both a little dynamic behind the 3pt line + a lot of static mid-range 1on1. It's a bad combination.
On his mid-range 1on1 he does a lot of pull ups without attacking, he's not particularly good on these jab step pull ups but seems determined on shooting them. Doing this he makes himself a worse player than he could be.
Him being determined playing face up 1on1 from mid-range also makes it impossible to be succesfull in spacing the floor effeciently with two other big guys(Chandler Stoudemire). No matter how you slice it there isn't enough room for 3 big guys inside the 3pt line which is why we've seen Stoudemire standing at the 3pt line as a shooter on several occasions last year.
He needs to get better at moving without the ball, especially on the perimiter in pick'nroll situations and attacking in 1on1 dynamic(knowing and making your move as soon as you get the ball by reading your defender before you get the ball).
Defense is a whole other story, for x amount of year people have been saying he can play good defense when he wants to. But for x amount of years Melo apparently hasn't wanted to. Why wouldn't you do something on a basketball court that your are good at all the time?
Mr Exlax
07-12-2012, 09:12 AM
:facepalm
Why is it so hard for people to appreciate all great players for what they are? Melo is a great, great scorer. He's not a better player than Lebron Pauk, we get it.
All everybody does on ISH is praise their own favorite players by talking shit about everybody else's.
I too hate Carmelo. I'll never discredit his scoring ability though. Of course his FG% looks bad most games, but he can score. He's just not a winner to me. He's only concerned about getting his points. Hell he doesn't even get mad after a loss. At least Amare punches something when he loses.
Punpun
07-12-2012, 09:13 AM
Melo: "Ok Blake when you get the ball you must shoot the basketball."
Blake: "What if I'm doubled should I pass to the open teammate?"
Melo: :kobe:
There.
:yaohappy:
Chrono90
07-12-2012, 09:30 AM
:facepalm X10
i hope blake knows he needs a post game be4 a dribble step back pull up
swag2011
07-12-2012, 09:46 AM
Thats actually all Carmelo does...
and this is why nobody likes you lebron cack suckers.
Rnbizzle
07-12-2012, 10:00 AM
Just accept that not everybody else sees the game the same way you do.
The problem with Melo is that he plays both a little dynamic behind the 3pt line + a lot of static mid-range 1on1. It's a bad combination.
On his mid-range 1on1 he does a lot of pull ups without attacking, he's not particularly good on these jab step pull ups but seems determined on shooting them. Doing this he makes himself a worse player than he could be.
Him being determined playing face up 1on1 from mid-range also makes it impossible to be succesfull in spacing the floor effeciently with two other big guys(Chandler Stoudemire). No matter how you slice it there isn't enough room for 3 big guys inside the 3pt line which is why we've seen Stoudemire standing at the 3pt line as a shooter on several occasions last year.
He needs to get better at moving without the ball, especially on the perimiter in pick'nroll situations and attacking in 1on1 dynamic(knowing and making your move as soon as you get the ball by reading your defender before you get the ball).
Defense is a whole other story, for x amount of year people have been saying he can play good defense when he wants to. But for x amount of years Melo apparently hasn't wanted to. Why wouldn't you do something on a basketball court that your are good at all the time?
I'm not saying he's the perfect all around player (Melo), nor am I saying everybody should agree with me. All I'm saying is, I'm getting tired of the continuous bashing of good players. Kobe's a chucker, Lebron's a chocker, Melo is a ballstopper, Derrick Rose and Russell Westbrook are 2 guards.. Or 'shoot first PGs can't win championships'. Shall I continue?
ZenMaster
07-12-2012, 10:04 AM
I'm not saying he's the perfect all around player (Melo), nor am I saying everybody should agree with me. All I'm saying is, I'm getting tired of the continuous bashing of good players. Kobe's a chucker, Lebron's a chocker, Melo is a ballstopper, Derrick Rose and Russell Westbrook are 2 guards.. Or 'shoot first PGs can't win championships'. Shall I continue?
I only wrote about Melo, don't project all these stupid opinions on me just because I agree with one of them and that is that Melo is a ball stopper.
NumberSix
07-12-2012, 10:08 AM
:facepalm
Why is it so hard for people to appreciate all great players for what they are? Melo is a great, great scorer. He's not a better player than Lebron Pauk, we get it.
All everybody does on ISH is praise their own favorite players by talking shit about everybody else's.
Some people don't like that style of player, myself included.
This generation's style of "wanna be like Mike" volume scorers who slack off on defense and tend to break the flow of the offense. It's not my kind of player. I'm not even saying they don't have their place, but it's just not the kind of player I prefer.
colorz
07-12-2012, 10:11 AM
:facepalm X10
i hope blake knows he needs a post game be4 a dribble step back pull up
He'll be working with Hakeem this summer.
Sarcastic
07-12-2012, 10:13 AM
I only wrote about Melo, don't project all these stupid opinions on me just because I agree with one of them and that is that Melo is a ball stopper.
You must really hate watching Kobe play.
Fiasco
07-12-2012, 10:13 AM
:facepalm X10
i hope blake knows he needs a post game be4 a dribble step back pull up
Blake no post game = he averaged 20 ppg on fastbreak dunks ok
Rnbizzle
07-12-2012, 10:15 AM
I only wrote about Melo, don't project all these stupid opinions on me just because I agree with one of them and that is that Melo is a ball stopper.
I was talking about ISH in general, you responded to me, so I thought I'd elaborate.
Blue&Orange
07-12-2012, 10:17 AM
Some people don't like that style of player, myself included.
This generation's style of "wanna be like Mike" volume scorers who slack off on defense and tend to break the flow of the offense. It's not my kind of player. I'm not even saying they don't have their place, but it's just not the kind of player I prefer.
This shit is hilarious on some many levels.
Lebron not only wanna be like Mike, is only goal is to beat Mike, he became the ultimate ring chaser because his only goal is to beat Mike.
He isn't a volume scorer because he can't be, Lebrick just doesn't have the skills period, the running into people, getting the call and the high efficient shot, will only work sometimes.
He might get 40 against the skeleton of Tayshaun Price or the tired old Pierce but that's it.
ZenMaster
07-12-2012, 10:24 AM
You must really hate watching Kobe play.
Kobe playing hero ball in the 4th quarter is horrible, but for most of his career he's played 1on1 off situations in the triangle which is OK because most of the time he played off the ball in the triangle as well.
But agreed this past season Kobe was mainly horrible to watch.
Also a difference between him and Melo is that through his career Kobe is an all-time great shooter, Melo is not yet try to play like he is.
swag2011
07-12-2012, 10:27 AM
This shit is hilarious on some many levels.
Lebron not only wanna be like Mike, is only goal is to beat Mike, he became the ultimate ring chaser because his only goal is to beat Mike.
He isn't a volume scorer because he can't be, Lebrick just doesn't have the skills period, the running into people, getting the call and the high efficient shot, will only work sometimes.
He might get 40 against the skeleton of Tayshaun Price or the tired old Pierce but that's it.
LMAO :cheers: Lebron even said he wants to be a global icon, a la MJ. Hence the reason why he just brought a stake in the soccer club in England lol. He's trying to make himself a brand like MJ, but it ain't working. He'll never reach MJ levels of popularity, not even Kobe's level. (worldwide)
And of course Lebron isn't considered a volume shooter. The man can't shoot to save his life. He better stick to them layups and foul calls tho.
Punpun
07-12-2012, 10:28 AM
But agreed this past season Kobe was mainly horrible to watch.
.
Dat joke. Even the infamous 3-21 game was interesting as ****.
tpols
07-12-2012, 10:38 AM
Blake doesnt need a step back.. defenders already give him the open look.:facepalm
Fiasco
07-12-2012, 10:45 AM
Blake doesnt need a step back.. defenders already give him the open look.:facepalm
They won't be giving it to him this year.
I only wrote about Melo, don't project all these stupid opinions on me just because I agree with one of them and that is that Melo is a ball stopper.
He's allowed to quote you without every single word specifically being about you, clearly was talking just in general.
And he does have a point, there's plenty of that going on around here. GASP!
BuffaloBill
07-12-2012, 10:48 AM
:facepalm
Why is it so hard for people to appreciate all great players for what they are? Melo is a great, great scorer. He's not a better player than Lebron Pauk, we get it.
All everybody does on ISH is praise their own favorite players by talking shit about everybody else's.
I agree. I don't understand how you can enjoy basketball if you only like sucking one player's dick at a time. Melo is an amazing basketball player. Idk where the hate the comes from, but he is one of the most exciting players to watch.
Sarcastic
07-12-2012, 10:49 AM
Never seen so much hate and vitriol for a player trying to teach another player some moves.
NumberSix
07-12-2012, 10:56 AM
This shit is hilarious on some many levels.
Lebron not only wanna be like Mike, is only goal is to beat Mike, he became the ultimate ring chaser because his only goal is to beat Mike.
He isn't a volume scorer because he can't be, Lebrick just doesn't have the skills period, the running into people, getting the call and the high efficient shot, will only work sometimes.
He might get 40 against the skeleton of Tayshaun Price or the tired old Pierce but that's it.
What does LeBron have to do with anything? :confusedshrug:
Xiao Yao You
07-12-2012, 11:06 AM
http://youtu.be/1PjBPm3y9c0?hd=1
Why Melo get so much hate??? :confusedshrug:
He a good guy.
:coleman:
He's a douchebag!
Sarcastic
07-12-2012, 11:48 AM
:coleman:
He's a douchebag!
What player isn't?
SilkkTheShocker
07-12-2012, 11:52 AM
What does LeBron have to do with anything? :confusedshrug:
Knicks fans are still upset Lebron didn't sign with them.
What player isn't?
Tim Duncan, Steve Nash
Xiao Yao You
07-12-2012, 11:55 AM
Kevin Durant, Derrick Rose
wang4three
07-12-2012, 11:58 AM
That's what he needs. Moves that pull him away from the basket. Chris Paul did not seem happy there at the end.
EnoughSaid
07-12-2012, 12:09 PM
Good shit from Melo, but if I'm Griffin, I'm going to Hakeem and getting my ass in the post.
ClutchOver9000
07-12-2012, 12:11 PM
:facepalm
Why is it so hard for people to appreciate all great players for what they are? Melo is a great, great scorer. He's not a better player than Lebron Pauk, we get it.
All everybody does on ISH is praise their own favorite players by talking shit about everybody else's.
:applause:
Blue&Orange
07-12-2012, 12:54 PM
What does LeBron have to do with anything? :confusedshrug:
Lebron fan saying he doesn't like players that want to be like Mike... :lol
I thought it was incredibly obvious, do you need a drawing? My paint skills are awful.
O_City_Thunder
07-12-2012, 12:55 PM
Melo: "Ok Blake when you get the ball you must shoot the basketball."
Blake: "What if I'm doubled should I pass to the open teammate?"
Melo: "Pass????????"
:kobe:
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
DaSeba5
07-12-2012, 12:56 PM
Melo: "Ok Blake when you get the ball you must shoot the basketball."
Blake: "What if I'm doubled should I pass to the open teammate?"
Melo: "Pass????????"
:kobe:
This :lol
Punpun
07-12-2012, 12:56 PM
The Kobe face instead of the "???" is better. Smh.
Perry Jones III
07-12-2012, 01:08 PM
How so much people hating on Melo last time i checked only thing he did wrong to the NBA was the Melodrama but the only reason there was drama was because Melo didn't wanna violate the nuggets and leave them w/o shit. And look how the nuggets doing now so STFU. What did Lebron do? Leave his team(hometown) without shit, piss off.
kNIOKAS
07-12-2012, 01:32 PM
anthony supposedly threw his olympic medal into the lake. and then said hey, this is what I do
StateOfMind12
07-12-2012, 02:01 PM
And this is exactly why Melo is not the best scorer in the league and completely overrated because all he does is shoot jumpers.
I was expecting and hoping to see Melo teach him back to basket moves because that is a more efficient shot and more of Griffin's game.
NewYorkNoPicks
07-12-2012, 04:12 PM
And this is exactly why Melo is not the best scorer in the league and completely overrated because all he does is shoot jumpers.
I was expecting and hoping to see Melo teach him back to basket moves because that is a more efficient shot and more of Griffin's game.
Your post, like most others in this thread, screams " i only watch youtube videos of the guy"
Youre an amateur, a noob
EnoughSaid
07-12-2012, 04:17 PM
And this is exactly why Melo is not the best scorer in the league and completely overrated because all he does is shoot jumpers.
I was expecting and hoping to see Melo teach him back to basket moves because that is a more efficient shot and more of Griffin's game.
All Melo does is shoot jumpers? :roll: You're confusing him with Durant. Melo is the most versatile scorer in the NBA. He can face up, drive in, post up, and has crazy range. I would take him as the #2 scorer in the NBA without question.
DTreats
07-12-2012, 04:25 PM
And once again, stateofmind12 proves he doesn't know shit about basketball.
Scoooter
07-12-2012, 04:28 PM
Melo's jab step is nasty. I don't Griffin is a good enough shooter yet to pull it off with any sort of worthwhile regularity (of course, going by FG%, you could argue Melo isn't either).
I wonder if he's tried reaching out to Barkley for some moves. That's the guy Griffin should be emulating.
KyrieTheFuture
07-12-2012, 04:30 PM
Knicks fans just make me depressed. It's really sad that some of them can't enjoy watching one of the greatest players in the history of the game due to their bitterness. Is Melo better? No. Is Melo great? Yes. He's an amazing scorer, much more so than LeBron. However, Blue&Orange seems to have forgotten that LeBron ripped OKC a new asshole in the post this Finals and anyone who says Durant didn't hack him on most of his drives is just wrong. That's why he didn't guard him really.
All Melo does is shoot jumpers? :roll: You're confusing him with Durant. Melo is the most versatile scorer in the NBA. He can face up, drive in, post up, and has crazy range. I would take him as the #2 scorer in the NBA without question.
Durant Lebron and Kobe are all better than Melo at scoring. Versatility be damned they all score more and lebron and kd are also very efficient
IGotACoolStory
07-12-2012, 04:37 PM
My god, Melo is so fat.
Knicks fans just make me depressed. It's really sad that some of them can't enjoy watching one of the greatest players in the history of the game due to their bitterness. Is Melo better? No. Is Melo great? Yes. He's an amazing scorer, much more so than LeBron. However, Blue&Orange seems to have forgotten that LeBron ripped OKC a new asshole in the post this Finals and anyone who says Durant didn't hack him on most of his drives is just wrong. That's why he didn't guard him really.
Not sure if serious. Lebron has 3rd highest ppg average EVER and 4th highest in playoff history. Lebron has 9 50+ point games melo has 2. Lebron has a scoring title melo doesn't. Lebron has averaged 30+ ppg twice, melo has never averaged 29 ppg. Lebron shoots higher from the field and 3pt range. Lebron has led playoffs in ppg twice melo never. Lebron out scores melo head to head. Lebron is a better scorer period
Sarcastic
07-12-2012, 04:46 PM
:oldlol: @ people acting like shooting jumpers and having a mid range game is a bad thing.
HardwoodLegend
07-12-2012, 04:49 PM
That's what he needs. Moves that pull him away from the basket. Chris Paul did not seem happy there at the end.
Chris Paul seems to be scowling most of the time. He just looked interested in what was going on. Nothing wrong with Blake having that move to go to in his arsenal. Definitely a way to help him score without overexerting those knees constantly.
HardwoodLegend
07-12-2012, 04:58 PM
Not sure if serious. Lebron has 3rd highest ppg average EVER and 4th highest in playoff history. Lebron has 9 50+ point games melo has 2. Lebron has a scoring title melo doesn't. Lebron has averaged 30+ ppg twice, melo has never averaged 29 ppg. Lebron shoots higher from the field and 3pt range. Lebron has led playoffs in ppg twice melo never. Lebron out scores melo head to head. Lebron is a better scorer period
LeBron has improved his FG% over each of his past 6 seasons while outscoring Melo every step of the way.
Ain't that somethin, SMH.
swi7ch
07-12-2012, 05:13 PM
:oldlol: @ people acting like shooting jumpers and having a mid range game is a bad thing.
It is if you're Melo because your offense becomes a standstill.
Sarcastic
07-12-2012, 05:20 PM
It is if you're Melo because your offense becomes a standstill.
It's funny how after just 1 year under Mike D'Antoni, everything that Carmelo ever did was completely washed away, and people think all he ever does is shoot jumpers.
He used to consistently be near the top of the league in dunks.
http://www.82games.com/random22.htm
Here's alley oops.
http://www.82games.com/random19.htm
NuggetsFan
07-12-2012, 05:23 PM
:oldlol: @ people acting like shooting jumpers and having a mid range game is a bad thing.
Agreed. People just care about numbers which are obviously important as well but nobody gives a f*ck about versatility sadly.
ZenMaster
07-12-2012, 05:29 PM
This video also shows why Griffin isn't a better shooter, his release isn't right and he's shooting too much with his middle and ring finger.
Haymaker
07-12-2012, 05:33 PM
Blake was hardly trying.
strifed169
07-12-2012, 05:34 PM
Melo's signature = the lazyboy pullup
Sarcastic
07-12-2012, 05:35 PM
Blake was hardly trying.
We talking about practice, man. Not a game. Not a game. We talking about practice.
Zackmorris
07-12-2012, 06:11 PM
And this is exactly why Melo is not the best scorer in the league and completely overrated because all he does is shoot jumpers.
I advise you to watch basketball sometime. It's a good sport to watch.
KyrieTheFuture
07-12-2012, 06:40 PM
Not sure if serious. Lebron has 3rd highest ppg average EVER and 4th highest in playoff history. Lebron has 9 50+ point games melo has 2. Lebron has a scoring title melo doesn't. Lebron has averaged 30+ ppg twice, melo has never averaged 29 ppg. Lebron shoots higher from the field and 3pt range. Lebron has led playoffs in ppg twice melo never. Lebron out scores melo head to head. Lebron is a better scorer period
Just because LeBron is EXCELLENT at a few things doesn't make him a better scorer. Melo is much more versatile in his offensive game.
Scoooter
07-12-2012, 06:45 PM
Just because LeBron is EXCELLENT at a few things doesn't make him a better scorer. Melo is much more versatile in his offensive game.
Does versatility trump effectiveness?
MeLO MvP 15
07-12-2012, 07:04 PM
I'm surprised the NY media hasn't blamed the Blake injury on Melo yet.
StateOfMind12
07-12-2012, 07:09 PM
All Melo does is shoot jumpers? :roll: You're confusing him with Durant. Melo is the most versatile scorer in the NBA. He can face up, drive in, post up, and has crazy range. I would take him as the #2 scorer in the NBA without question.
If you want to know something interesting, Durant gets to the FT line more than Melo does and averages more paint/rim FGM than Melo does.
Melo has the ability to score in multiple ways but more times than not he just settles for jumpers.
Melo is not even a top 3 scorer in the game. Durant, Lebron, and either or both Kobe/Dirk are better scorers than Melo.
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