NBA height listing inconsistency thread

[Linspired]

bad height listing just drives me crazy. it just makes my favorite organization look like a WWE. I just hate that. why can't they be more professional about it? the listing is all over the place. some with barefoot height, some with height w/shoe on, some neither. NBA should take this seriously because people really do believe Kevin love is 6ft 10.

i'll start with the usual

1.Tyreke Evans was measured at 6ft 4 barefoot, but listed at 6ft 6
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Tyreke-Evans-1110/
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/tyreke_evans/


2. Kevin Love was measured at 6ft 7 3/4 barefoot, but listed at 6ft 10
http://www.draftexpress.com/search.php
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/kevin_love/


3. kevin durant is listed at 6ft 9 barefoot, and nba listing is also 6ft 9
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Kevin-Durant-390/
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/kevin_durant/

who else?


* I know some of these players could have grown 1/4-1/2 inch maybe even up to full 1 inch, but these NBA listing came out right after they were measured barefoot.

[Magic731]

I read somewhere the Hedo Turkoglu was the tallest player on the Magic, even taller than Dwight. Can anyone confirm this?

[abuC]

Why is it so difficult to understand that they round up and typically list players height with shoes on?


Kevin Love was 6"9.5 in shoes, you want them to round down or list his height without shoes? Maybe Evans is now 6"5 and 3/4th in shoes, should they round down?

[LikeABosh]

Basketball shoes can add 2"

[dabulls23]

Im Glad This Has Came Up.. It Bothered Me A Sh1t Ton These Recent Years

[MeLO MvP 15]

D-Wade.

Measure at 6'3.75" barefoot and 6'4.75" with shoes. He's listed at 6'4... they always round up for .5 and not to mention most guys get shoes that give them more than an inch.

And for Durant, I'd assume he didn't want to be listed as 6'11" so he wouldn't have to play PF... but considering he played SG his rookie year (IIRC), it's irrelevant.

[pauk]

Carmelo Anthony - measured 6'6... listed 6'8

[Linspired]

Why is it so difficult to understand that they round up and typically list players height with shoes on?


Kevin Love was 6"9.5 in shoes, you want them to round down or list his height without shoes? Maybe Evans is now 6"5 and 3/4th in shoes, should they round down?

i believe evans was listed at 6ft 6 in his first year. so your theory is not true. you can't round up 6ft 5 1/4 to 6ft 6.

and durant with shoe on was 6ft 10 1/4, why he isn't listed at 6ft 10?

and what happens when a player shows up with 2 inch thick shoe?
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Spencer-Hawes-483/

have you see shaq shoes? why isn't shaq listed at 7ft 3?
http://forsportfans.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Picture-20.jpg

i remember seeing shaq's reebok shaq attack 1 in the store. actual size 23. that thing was easily 2 inch thick. maybe more.
http://www.paplaci.hu/phpalbum/photos/holtpont/Shaquille%20O'Neal/Shaquille%20O'Neal%2093-94%20Fleer%20Rookie%20Sensations%20a.jpg

[G-train]

Said for years, last day of training camp an NBA representative should measure and weigh every player barefoot and in their underwear.

[Linspired]

Basketball shoes can add 2"

definitely for size 15+. i'm a casual sneakerhead, and most of my nikes(size 11.5-12) gives me 1 1/2 inch lift when i first buy them and it gradually goes down to 1 1/4 inch. hyperdunk, hyperfuse, kobe, jordans and etc. i think one is usually with air max.

no doubt shaq's clown size 23 shoe is easily 2 1/4 inches thick.

[KG215]

I go back-and-forth on this issue. Sometimes I enjoy it an other times I feel like it's a very dumb and pointless thing to discuss; because, let's be honest, who cares if a player was measured at 6'6.75" w/o shoes, but is listed at 6'9"?

[abuC]

i believe evans was listed at 6ft 6 in his first year. so your theory is not true. you can't round up 6ft 5 1/4 to 6ft 6.

and durant with shoe on was 6ft 10 1/4, why he isn't listed at 6ft 10?

and what happens when a player shows up with 2 inch thick shoe?
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Spencer-Hawes-483/

have you see shaq shoes? why isn't shaq listed at 7ft 3?
http://forsportfans.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Picture-20.jpg

i remember seeing shaq's reebok shaq attack 1 in the store. actual size 23. that thing was easily 2 inch thick. maybe more.
http://www.paplaci.hu/phpalbum/photos/holtpont/Shaquille%20O'Neal/Shaquille%20O'Neal%2093-94%20Fleer%20Rookie%20Sensations%20a.jpg


It's up to the team to list the heights of their players, they are just going to round up and go with the height in shoes. There's inconsistency because there's no mandate on accurate listings, because it's really not important to be honest.

If these guys heights were listed without shoes, people who meet them would say "Xyz is taller than he was listed at, Im 6"3 and met Dwyane Wade and he was taller than me".


We have draftexpress now, we know what most of these guys heights are with or without shoes.

[midatlantic09]

If I were in the NBA, I'd be listed at 6'1 190.....ala Chris Duhon.

[Linspired]

I go back-and-forth on this issue. Sometimes I enjoy it an other times I feel like it's a very dumb and pointless thing to discuss; because, let's be honest, who cares if a player was measured at 6'6.75" w/o shoes, but is listed at 6'9"?

die hard fans like myself do care. it's like finding out santa clause doesn't exist. i was extremely disappointed when i found out patrick ewing wasn't a legit 7fter.

and it just makes NBA look like a 2nd rate organization. NFL does a great job being very accurate.

[Linspired]

If I were in the NBA, I'd be listed at 6'1 190.....ala Chris Duhon.

i'm 6ft 2 in the morning 6ft 1 1/2 at night(i've had herniated disc 3 years ago). i would've been listed at 6ft 4 if i was measured in the morning because I sometimes put dr. scholl to ease my backpain when i hoop which adds another 1/2 inch to my 1 1/2 inch thick nike.

[abuC]

die hard fans like myself do care. it's like finding out santa clause doesn't exist. i was extremely disappointed when i found out patrick ewing wasn't a legit 7fter.

and it just makes NBA look like a 2nd rate organization. NFL does a great job being very accurate.

Real 7 footers are rare, here -

http://www.truthaboutit.net/2012/05/true-or-false-half-of-all-7-footers-are-in-the-nba.html

Estimated 70 people between 20-40 years old in this country that are 7"0 or more.

[Linspired]

Real 7 footers are rare, here -

http://www.truthaboutit.net/2012/05/true-or-false-half-of-all-7-footers-are-in-the-nba.html

Estimated 70 people between 20-40 years old in this country that are 7"0 or more.



good find. 70 out of 300 million americans? wow. that's very rare.

and we have so many fake 7fters. I know this 16 year old kid in Norcross, GA claiming he is 7ft. he looks to be about 6ft 9. but he has ridiculously huge fro and wears a clown shoes, so he can look like a 7fter from far. i also play hoop with 6ft 9 dude here in chicago, who looks exactly like drew gooden. but actually he is more like 6ft 6 1/2. but he would refuse to admit he is not full 6ft 9. and there are a lot of dudes who just adds inch or two to their height.

i guess some people are just very insecure. i think kevin love is one of them.

[Meticode]

Holy crap, if I was in the NBA I'd be 6'3" and 200 pounds. I could almost play shooting guard!

[SuperPippen]

I'd be listed at a good 6'5" in the NBA.

[Linspired]

hulk hogan was billed as 6ft 7 beast back in 80's. but is peak height was 6ft 5 1/2 at best. right now he is barely 6ft 3 because he had multiple neck, back, knee surgeries. look at how tiny compared to 60+ year old kareem.
http://tinyurl.com/6r5uzqc

and andre the giant we used to love was billed at 7ft 4.
http://www.ringsidenews.com/file/pic/photo/2012/03/0cf98b90726b87189199c4722e729a15_500.jpg

if kareem stood next to that andre giant, kareem would have to be billed at 8ft monster because that andre giant in wrestlemania was barely 6ft 9 1/2. his peak height was 6ft 11 1/2.

and you bet i was crushed when i found out hulk wasn't 6ft 7 and andre was nowhere near 7ft 4.

[RedBlackAttack]

D-Wade.

Measure at 6'3.75" barefoot and 6'4.75" with shoes. He's listed at 6'4... they always round up for .5 and not to mention most guys get shoes that give them more than an inch.

And for Durant, I'd assume he didn't want to be listed as 6'11" so he wouldn't have to play PF... but considering he played SG his rookie year (IIRC), it's irrelevant.
It's not always the case. For instance, Kyrie Irving was measured at 6'3.5" at the combine with shoes.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Kyrie-Irving-5735/

Conventional logic would mean listing him at 6'4". Yet, he's listed by the NBA at 6'3".

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6442/kyrie-irving


It does seem that, in general, the way you explained it is the way that the heights are listed the NBA. But there are quite a few inexplicable exceptions, which make it feel a bit more random.

[Knicksfever2010]

if every player is measured the same way (with sneakers), what does it matter?

[Linspired]

More.

Andrea Bargnani
barefoot 7ft. with shoes 7ft 1 1/4
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Andrea-Bargnani-154/
listed height 7ft
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/andrea_bargnani/


brook lopez
barefoot 6ft 11 1/4, with shoes 7ft 1/2
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Brook-Lopez-545/
listed height 7ft
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/brook_lopez/


joakim noah
barefoot 6ft 11, with shoes 7ft
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Joakim-Noah-589/
listed height 6ft 11
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/joakim_noah/

chris bosh
barefoot 6ft 10 1/4, with shoes 6ft 11 1/2
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Chris-Bosh-1740/
listed height 6ft 11
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/chris_bosh/

desagana diop
barefoot 6ft 10, with shoes 6ft 11 1/4
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Desagana-Diop-2241/
listed height 7ft
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/desagana_diop/

brandan haywood
barefoot 6ft 11 3/4, with shoes 7ft 1 1/2
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Brendan-Haywood-2775/
listed height 7ft
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/brendan_haywood/

aaron gray
barefoot 7ft, with shoes 7ft 1 3/4
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Aaron-Gray-453/
listed height 7ft
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/aaron_gray/

demar derozan
barefoot 6ft 5 1/2, with shoes 6ft 6 1/2
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Demar-DeRozan-1319/
listed height 6ft 7
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/demar_derozan/





2012 draft picks

andre Drummond
barefoot 6ft 9 3/4, with shoes 6ft 11 3/4
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Andre-Drummond-5772/
listed height 6ft 10(in college he was listed at 7ft)
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/andre_drummond/

anthony davis
barefoot 6ft 9 1/4, with shoes 6ft 10 1/2
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Anthony-Davis-6236/
listed at 6ft 10
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/anthony_davis/

tyler zeller
barefoot 6ft 11 1/4, with shoes 7ft 1/2
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Tyler-Zeller-5154/
listed at 7ft
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/tyler_zeller/

michael kidd-gilchrist
barefoot 6ft 5 3/4, with shoes 6ft 7 1/2
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Michael-Gilchrist-5707/
listed height 6ft 7
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/michael_kidd-gilchrist/index.html?nav=page






downgraded heights

Brian Cook
barefoot 6ft 9 1/2, with shoes 6ft 10 3/4
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Brian-Cook-2054/
listed height 6ft 9
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/brian_cook/

Miles plumlee
barefoot 6ft 10 1/2, with shoes 6ft 11 3/4
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Miles-Plumlee-5261/
listed height 6ft 10
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/miles_plumlee/


it's absolutely all over the place. NBA LISTED HEIGHT has absolutely nothing to do with w/ shoe height.

[Knicksfever2010]

hulk hogan was billed as 6ft 7 beast back in 80's. but is peak height was 6ft 5 1/2 at best. right now he is barely 6ft 3 because he had multiple neck, back, knee surgeries. look at how tiny compared to 60+ year old kareem.
http://tinyurl.com/6r5uzqc

and andre the giant we used to love was billed at 7ft 4.
http://www.ringsidenews.com/file/pic/photo/2012/03/0cf98b90726b87189199c4722e729a15_500.jpg

if kareem stood next to that andre giant, kareem would have to be billed at 8ft monster because that andre giant in wrestlemania was barely 6ft 9 1/2. his peak height was 6ft 11 1/2.

and you bet i was crushed when i found out hulk wasn't 6ft 7 and andre was nowhere near 7ft 4.

I never 'loved' andrea the giant. I'm sure he was a great person, but his WWF character was pure evil.

[Linspired]

i meant to say we loved to hate. :oldlol:

i was 8 when hogan slammed the giant. that was probably the highlight of the 80's.

late 80's was all about MJ, iron mike, and hulk hogan. lol

[Lebron23]

NBA players listed their height while wearing their sneakers. In the PBA they measure and lists their players height without shoes.

[outbreak]

I remember reading about a 6ft guy who met rose and claimed rose was much shorter thrn him. Jj barea is listed 6ft I bet hes like 5"8

[tontoz]

Iggy and Childress both measured 6'5.75" barefoot. Iggy is listed at 6'6 and Childress is listed at 6'8.

Joe Johnson is only 1/4" shorter than Josh Smith and Marvin Williams (both 6'7 barefoot) but he is listed at 6'7 while they are listed at 6'9.

[tontoz]

if every player is measured the same way (with sneakers), what does it matter?


First of all they aren't all listed that way. Secondly not every shoe has the same sole thickness.

[theaussieguy]

die hard fans like myself do care. it's like finding out santa clause doesn't exist. i was extremely disappointed when i found out patrick ewing wasn't a legit 7fter.

and it just makes NBA look like a 2nd rate organization. NFL does a great job being very accurate.

u should be more concerned about the fact u invest such a big deal into a number, omg he isn't 7 foot hes no longer the player i thought he was.....its your own irratioanlity, your inability to accept things arn't perfect that is the problem, not the inconsistency in height, which lets face it, is an issue in every single sporting organization in the world.

Also its not totally out way, humans can shrink upto over an inch a day which they then regain during sleep when the spine decompresses. Height fluctuates a lot for these taller dudes especially.

[2LeTTeRS]

die hard fans like myself do care. it's like finding out santa clause doesn't exist. i was extremely disappointed when i found out patrick ewing wasn't a legit 7fter.

and it just makes NBA look like a 2nd rate organization. NFL does a great job being very accurate.

This is possibly the strangest comment I've ever heard. You have issues my friend.

[NumberSix]

die hard fans like myself do care. it's like finding out santa clause doesn't exist. i was extremely disappointed when i found out patrick ewing wasn't a legit 7fter.
:wtf:

[KG215]

die hard fans like myself do care. it's like finding out santa clause doesn't exist. i was extremely disappointed when i found out patrick ewing wasn't a legit 7fter.

and it just makes NBA look like a 2nd rate organization. NFL does a great job being very accurate.

No, not all diehard fans like yourself care, especially this much. I'm a diehard NBA fan and I don't really care that much.

I get it, this stuff fascinates you, as it does other NBA fans, but after reading some of your posts in this thread, your obsession with heights is borderline creepy.

Disappointed because you found out Ewing wasn't a legit 7-footer? So what? He could still ball, so him being closer to 6'10" than 7'0" shouldn't have been extremely disappointing. It's not like he was your favorite player and you found out he had a rare disease or something.

[jamal99]

Real 7 footers are rare, here -

http://www.truthaboutit.net/2012/05/true-or-false-half-of-all-7-footers-are-in-the-nba.html

Estimated 70 people between 20-40 years old in this country that are 7"0 or more.
Only 70? Wtf?
Few years ago there was a similar research for countries of former Yugoslavia and there was like 150+ people who were at least 6'11''. Those countries have population of approximately 16 million people. There is probably even more tall people, because the research gathered their information mostly through sport clubs (basketball and volleyball)...

[Linspired]

u should be more concerned about the fact u invest such a big deal into a number, omg he isn't 7 foot hes no longer the player i thought he was.....its your own irratioanlity, your inability to accept things arn't perfect that is the problem, not the inconsistency in height, which lets face it, is an issue in every single sporting organization in the world.

Also its not totally out way, humans can shrink upto over an inch a day which they then regain during sleep when the spine decompresses. Height fluctuates a lot for these taller dudes especially.


No it isn't. NFL do not have this problem. they are pretty much 95% accurate.

[Linspired]

:wtf:


i was in middle school!! and i had huge patrick ewing posters growing up.

I was crushed when i saw hogan in person too. i imagined him being this huge gigantic man, but he was barely taller than i was. and that was mid 90's.

[Wavy Crockett]

Jordan was apparently 6'4".

[CavaliersFTW]

Jordan was apparently 6'4".

6-4.88" in his barefeet (6-4 and 7/8ths). Measured in 1992 along with several other U.S. Dream Team athletes that voluntarily agreed to be measured w/o shoes. So he's closer to 6-5 than 6-4.

[CavaliersFTW]

if every player is measured the same way (with sneakers), what does it matter?
your so ignorant about list heights :roll:

[QUOTE=Draftexpress]Johnson said. "You don't go out there with your shoes off. Ain't that right?"

In this case, Larry Johnson being a 6

[NumberSix]

6-4.88" in his barefeet (6-4 and 7/8ths). Measured in 1992 along with several other U.S. Dream Team athletes that voluntarily agreed to be measured w/o shoes. So he's closer to 6-5 than 6-4.
6'6 with kicks on

[jlauber]

This topic has been brought up before, but for those that rip the 60's as a decade of very few seven-footers...

had the players back then been measured in shoes, and there would have been some 20 seven-footers in that span...and in leagues of eight to 14 teams.

Furthermore, Chamberlain was over 7-1, and Kareem was nearly 7-2 (and there are those that would claim both were even taller than that)...but had they been measured in shoes, Chamberlain would have been at least 7-3, and Kareem over 7-3. And Wilt had a 7-8 wingspan, too. And one of the more amazing stories of that time, was that Nate Thurmond, who was listed at 6-11, and would surely be over 7-0 by today's measuring methods, had a higher standing reach than Chamberlain.

[Keelyus]

I work security and I saw Brian Grant at my job (he got a divorce).

I'm 6-5 and I was almost his height. I think he is measured at 6-10 or 6-11' when he played, but realistically he's maybe 6-7 or 6-8 at the tallest, wasn't much taller than me, honestly.

[D.J.]

If I were in the NBA, I'd be listed at 6'9" 230. Pretty much Kenyon Martin.