Dave Chappelle -vs- Eddie Griffin: Who U Got?

[L.Kizzle]

After watching both of these men over the past 15+ years, I have come to the conclusion that Eddie Griffin is a greater stand up performer than Dave Chappelle.


http://www.makems.com/celebrities/picture/dave-chappelle-eddie-griffin


While Dave obviously had a higher peak, Griffin has been putting out consistent stand up material for a long, long time. Dave is the better side man in films though, like in Nutty Professor, Blue Streak and even Undercover Brother with Eddie Griffin.


Dave has just 3 stand up specials compared to 7 for Eddie Griffin.


GRIFFIN
92 HBO One Night Stand
94 The Black Man's Bible
97 VooDoo Child
02 The Last Stand: Raw & Uncut
03 Dysfunktional Family
08 Freedom of Speech
11 You Can Tell 'Em I Said It

CHAPPELLE
97 HBO Comedy Half-Hour
00 Killin' Them Softly
05 For What It's Worth

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What's your take?

[1987_Lakers]

Chappelle shits all over Griffin.

[Big_Dogg]

Chappelle shits all over Griffin.

^ This

[L.Kizzle]

Chappelle shits all over Griffin.
Tell me why?

[chosen_one6]

Chappelle and it's not even close. The dude is a comedic genius. Not only are his stand up's funny, but his show was f***in hilarious and every role he's ever played in a movie was hilarious.

[L.Kizzle]

How many of y'all have even seen a Eddie Griffin stand up special before?

[miller-time]

How many of y'all have even seen a Eddie Griffin stand up special before?

i have. they are funny the first one or two times. but after that they get a bit boring. i can still watch the chappelle ones and esp the eddie murphy ones and crack up.

[Legend of Josh]

Didn't Griffin smash up some Ferrari or some shit? Dude just came off as a tool IMO from the beginning - whereas D.C. was on-point since Half Baked fast-forward. This one's a no-brainer.

[Timmy D for MVP]

Chappelle is in a whole other Universe that Griffin. This isn't even close.

[L.Kizzle]

Didn't Griffin smash up some Ferrari or some shit? Dude just came off as a tool IMO from the beginning - whereas D.C. was on-point since Half Baked fast-forward. This one's a no-brainer.
Half-Baked fast forward is only what 6 years. He was done after 2004 basically.

Griffin crashed a ferrari tryin to race on the set of some film, haha.

Still, have y'all not seen Dysfunktional Family or You Can Tell Em I Said It or VooDoo Child? Those are required stand up films. Chappelle's best was Killing Them Softly and his 97 Comedy Half Hour on HBO.

[TheeBeast]

Dave Chappelle is a smarter comic. Eddie has his outrageous type of comedic style but Dave Chappelle is on a whole lane.

N Dave Chappelle wasn't done, he just left the showbiz cuz he got tired of the spotlight

[Sarcastic]

I've seen them both live.

Chappelle is funnier.

[L.Kizzle]

Dave Chappelle is a smarter comic. Eddie has his outrageous type of comedic style but Dave Chappelle is on a whole lane.

N Dave Chappelle wasn't done, he just left the showbiz cuz he got tired of the spotlight
Not sure is Dave is a smarter comic, I've seen both. Dave is a better story teller. If you leave that means you're done. I really hope he make a comeback though.

[Legend of Josh]

Who's better ... Dave Chappelle or Chris Tucker ?

[L.Kizzle]

Who's better ... Dave Chappelle or Chris Tucker ?
Chappelle better stand up comic (by far), Tucker better in movies (slightly.)

[L.Kizzle]

Y'all probably think Katt Williams is better than Griffin too.

:facepalm

[Ass Dan]

Agreed, and after much review I have also come to the conclusion that J.R. Smith is a better basketball player than Kobe Bryant.

[L.Kizzle]

Agreed, and after much review I have also come to the conclusion that J.R. Smith is a better basketball player than Kobe Bryant.
Bad comparison.

[Jackass18]

How many of y'all have even seen a Eddie Griffin stand up special before?

I have and Chappelle wins easily.

[LJJ]

Griffin is not even that funny.

[L.Kizzle]

Guys have been brainwashed by Comedy Central.

[B-Low]

Guys have been brainwashed by Comedy Central.

I'm guessing you made this thread with the hope that people would say Eddie Griffin? :oldlol:

I like them both but Chappelle is clearly funnier. Eddie Griffin is good, but Chappelle is better, and most people would agree. Chappelle Show set a new standard in (black) sketch comedy that still hasn't been duplicated after try after try from Comedy Central. Eddie Griffin...was in Undercover Brother (where he was outperformed by Chappelle even in that) and had a short-lived UPN series with Theo.

As far as standup goes, someone else said it best. You see Griffins and they're funny the first time, but have no rewatchability if you'll excuse the made up word. I watch Dave's and they're funny every time

[L.Kizzle]

I'm guessing you made this thread with the hope that people would say Eddie Griffin? :oldlol:

I like them both but Chappelle is clearly funnier. Eddie Griffin is good, but Chappelle is better, and most people would agree. Chappelle Show set a new standard in (black) sketch comedy that still hasn't been duplicated after try after try from Comedy Central. Eddie Griffin...was in Undercover Brother (where he was outperformed by Chappelle even in that) and had a short-lived UPN series with Theo.

As far as standup goes, someone else said it best. You see Griffins and they're funny the first time, but have no rewatchability if you'll excuse the made up word. I watch Dave's and they're funny every time
Ed is about to put out a new special and Chappelle is in his basement lifting weight. I hope he comes back and doesn't turn into a Flip Wilson like story.



Eddie Griffin
I SAID..... IT'S OFFICIAL! KANSAS CITY!!! UR boy is coming home to film my next special... lights...cameras...FUNNY will be IN THA HOUSE at Harrah's Voodoo Lounge on September 8th - get ready and get your tickets now while u still can !

and help me name my special in the drop below this one...

[L.Kizzle]

http://www.tmz.com/2012/07/15/eddie-griffin-drink-throwing-video/

[Bucket_Nakedz]

what the hell is your problem with chapeezy? he's the goat! accept it.

[L.Kizzle]

what the hell is your problem with chapeezy? he's the goat! accept it.
I love Chappele, I never said I didn't. I own all seasons of Chappelle Show, his 2 specials and films including him (Nutty Professor, Woo, Half Baked, Undercover Brother starring Griffin and Block Party.)

But in stand up, it's Griffin. He speaks on many topics. His stand up set on Jesus, Moses and the bible ect is genius.

Eddie Griffin: Bible set (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho4vq4UPT9w)

[alwaysunny]

Tell me when we get an Eddie Griffin smiley on ISH

[ducktape]

will smith

[L.Kizzle]

He also does Prince better than Chappelle, haha.

Eddie Griffin as Prince (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wXlVtyCsNE)

:roll:

[Thirst Quencher]

Dave chappelle is the SHIT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTNopddkTsM

OH this racism is killing me inside lmao

[TheMan]

I like both but Dave easily.

[ShawnieMac06]

Count me in the camp that likes both, but I would also take Chappelle over Griffin. Both of them are funny in their own right, but Chappelle is much more of a thinking man's comedian.

[Raz]

Chappelle. This shouldn't even be up for debate

[Da KO King]

Eddie Griffin has been telling the same ten jokes for 20+ years now.

[L.Kizzle]

Eddie Griffin has been telling the same ten jokes for 20+ years now.
What ten jokes are those?

[pauk]

Chappelle... by far... he is big here in Europe, but Griffin? Who?

[L.Kizzle]

Chappelle... by far... he is big here in Europe, but Griffin? Who?
See, all yall have been brainwashed by Comedy Central and Chappelle Show.

[Scholar]

Dave's "Killin' Them Softly" shits on 99% of comedian's stand-up performances, so yes, I give the nod to Chappelle here.

[Jackass18]

See, all yall have been brainwashed by Comedy Central and Chappelle Show.

Face it, Griffin loses.

[L.Kizzle]

Dave's "Killin' Them Softly" shits on 99% of comedian's stand-up performances, so yes, I give the nod to Chappelle here.
Well you must not have seen a lot of stand up.

I could name at least 10 off the top which are funnier.

[Scholar]

Well you must not have seen a lot of stand up.

I could name at least 10 off the top which are funnier.

In what world would only 10 stand-ups equate to 1% of 100? There have been thousands of stand-ups; ergo, that 1% of performances better than Dave's "Killin' Them Softly" don't limit themselves to a mere 10. There are definitely dozens funnier, but that just means they are funnier than 99% of stand-ups, too.

I've seen Eddie Griffin's stand-up. He's a funny guy, but like I said, Dave's one performance alone shits on too-many-to-list others.

[L.Kizzle]

In what world would only 10 stand-ups equate to 1% of 100? There have been thousands of stand-ups; ergo, that 1% of performances better than Dave's "Killin' Them Softly" don't limit themselves to a mere 10. There are definitely dozens funnier, but that just means they are funnier than 99% of stand-ups, too.

I've seen Eddie Griffin's stand-up. He's a funny guy, but like I said, Dave's one performance alone shits on too-many-to-list others.
By 99%, that means you think it's one of the all time great performances caught on tape.

You didn't say 50%, hell not even 75% you said 99%. That basically means you think Killin' Them Softly is in the upper echelon of stand up performances.

[L.Kizzle]

Ridiculous

[red1]

cmon. who isnt going to say chappelle

[BlueCrayon]

:biggums:

[L.Kizzle]

cmon. who isnt going to say chappelle
Exactly, brainwashed.

[Graviton]

Killing them softly was the greatest standup show ever. When you mix comedy with cold hard truth that everyone knows deep down, you get something special.

Shoulda compared Patrice O'Neal to Chapelle, they are much closer than Griffin/Chapelle.

[pauk]

Griffin has done more but Chappelle made me chuckle more, i rate all his specials 8-9 of 10. I can do that only for one Eddie Griffin special and that is Voodoo Child.

Man what a shame... Chappelle was so gifted, reminded me alot of Richard Pryor.

[L.Kizzle]

Griffin has done more but Chappelle made me chuckle more, i rate all his specials 8-9 of 10. I can do that only for one Eddie Griffin special and that is Voodoo Child.
So if Chappelle has, let's say two 8's and one 9.

And Griffin has one 9 and a bunch of 7's, wouldn't you give that to Griffin?

[pauk]

So if Chappelle has, let's say two 8's and one 9.

And Griffin has one 9 and a bunch of 7's, wouldn't you give that to Griffin?

Based on how much i chuckled:

GRIFFIN

92 HBO One Night Stand - 8 / 10
94 The Black Man's Bible - 7 / 10
97 VooDoo Child - 9 / 10
02 The Last Stand: Raw & Uncut - 7 / 10
03 Dysfunktional Family - 6 / 10
08 Freedom of Speech - 6 / 10
11 You Can Tell 'Em I Said It - 6 / 10

CHAPPELLE

97 HBO Comedy Half-Hour - 9 / 10
00 Killin' Them Softly - 10 / 10
05 For What It's Worth - 8 / 10

Now you can decide. :) I guess its a matter of taste.... Chappelle is only behind Richard Pryor the funniest black standup comedian ive ever witnessed, after him i have Bill Cosby, Eddie Murphy, Chris Rock, Kevin Hart, Redd Foxx and the last is Katt Williams/Eddie Griffin.... thats what Griffin has to work against here according to me....

Man i really tried with Griffin, his other stuff just wasnt THAT funny to me... He kindof got worse with age aswell it seems imo, its actually Voodoo Child that made me want to see all his stuff and that was a bad idea because my expectations were waaay to high... Voodoo Child was so much funnier to me than any of his stuff, i mean by very far....

Thats just my opinion

[lefthook00]

I didn't like the show that Chapelle did in SF, the one where he was wearing a yellow shirt.

[pauk]

I didn't like the show that Chapelle did in SF, the one where he was wearing a yellow shirt.

This one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Szayrye3fc

Come on :D

[pauk]

...and the Chappelle's show was just legendary man, that skits there had me dying...

[lefthook00]

This one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Szayrye3fc

Come on :D

HAHA you would post that. I'd say it was 50% as good as Killing Me Softly.

[L.Kizzle]

Based on how much i chuckled:

GRIFFIN

92 HBO One Night Stand - 8 / 10
94 The Black Man's Bible - 7 / 10
97 VooDoo Child - 9 / 10
02 The Last Stand: Raw & Uncut - 7 / 10
03 Dysfunktional Family - 6 / 10
08 Freedom of Speech - 6 / 10
11 You Can Tell 'Em I Said It - 6 / 10

CHAPPELLE

97 HBO Comedy Half-Hour - 9 / 10
00 Killin' Them Softly - 10 / 10
05 For What It's Worth - 8 / 10

Now you can decide. :) I guess its a matter of taste.... Chappelle is only behind Richard Pryor the funniest black standup comedian ive ever witnessed, after him i have Bill Cosby, Eddie Murphy, Chris Rock, Kevin Hart, Redd Foxx and the last is Katt Williams/Eddie Griffin.... thats what Griffin has to work against here according to me....

Man i really tried with Griffin, his other stuff just wasnt THAT funny to me... He kindof got worse with age aswell it seems imo, its actually Voodoo Child that made me want to see all his stuff and that was a bad idea because my expectations were waaay to high... Voodoo Child was so much funnier to me than any of his stuff, i mean by very far....

Thats just my opinion
Wow, Dysfunk Family and You Can Tell Em I Said it, 6/10? :biggums:


I have Pryor first of course. Than Rock, Cosby, Murphy, Redd Foxx, Martin Lawrence, Damon Wayans, Dave Chappelle, Flip Wilson and Dick Gregory. That's my top ten.

Mooney, Griffin than Hughley right after the ten.

I don't think Griffin is greater than Chappelle. I just wanted to show Griffin props and prove how overrated Chappelle is. He is not that far off from Chappelle, and you can make a great argument to put Griffin over Chappelle and know eye's should role.

[pauk]

Wow, Dysfunk Family and You Can Tell Em I Said it, 6/10? :biggums:

There were some jokes that really cracked me up, but overall... it is what it is... its just my opinion and you shouldnt listen to me... :P



I have Pryor first of course. Than Rock, Cosby, Murphy, Redd Foxx, Martin Lawrence, Damon Wayans, Dave Chappelle, Flip Wilson and Dick Gregory. That's my top ten.

Mooney, Griffin than Hughley right after the ten.

I don't think Griffin is greater than Chappelle. I just wanted to show Griffin props and prove how overrated Chappelle is. He is not that far off from Chappelle, and you can make a great argument to put Griffin over Chappelle and know eye's should role.

Yea i understand... and wow... how could i forget Damon Wayans!!! :banghead: He had me crying in Last Stand/Still Standing (and ofcourse In Living Color) and i am desperately trying to find his other stuff.

..and you dont like Kevin Hart? Yea he is overrated... but cant deny, dude is funny

[L.Kizzle]

There were some jokes that really cracked me up, but overall... it is what it is... its just my opinion and you shouldnt listen to me... :P



Yea i understand... and wow... how could i forget Damon Wayans!!! :banghead: He had me crying in Last Stand/Still Standing (and ofcourse In Living Color) and i am desperately trying to find his other stuff.

..and you dont like Kevin Hart? Yea he is overrated... but cant deny, dude is funny
Hart is good, but he's not even on Tommy Davidson's level and Tommy is not even top 25. And Damon is better than Chappelle, but I mean that seriously, not just to show props.

I'll make a better list, best black comics from 1990 to present day.

1 Rock
1 Martin Lawrence
3 Damon Wayans
4 Chappelle
5 Griffin
6 Hughley
7 Sinbad (mad underrated)
8 Bernie Mac
9 David Alan Grier
10 Cedric
11 Tommy Davidson
12 George Wallace
13 Patrice O'Neal
14 Wanda Sykes (women need love too)
15 Bill Bellamy
16 Steve Harvey
17 Mark Curry
18 Chris Tucker
19 Jamie Foxx
20 Faizon Love
21 Kevin Hart
22 Joe Torry
23 Tracy Morgan
24 Katt Williams
25 Aries Spears

[pauk]

Hart is good, but he's not even on Tommy Davidson's level and Tommy is not even top 25. And Damon is better than Chappelle, but I mean that seriously, not just to show props.

I'll make a better list, best black comics from 1990 to present day.

1 Rock
1 Martin Lawrence
3 Damon Wayans
4 Chappelle
5 Griffin
6 Hughley
7 Sinbad (mad underrated)
8 Bernie Mac
9 David Alan Grier
10 Cedric
11 Tommy Davidson
12 George Wallace
13 Patrice O'Neal
14 Wanda Sykes (women need love too)
15 Bill Bellamy
16 Steve Harvey
17 Mark Curry
18 Chris Tucker
19 Jamie Foxx
20 Faizon Love
21 Kevin Hart
22 Joe Torry
23 Tracy Morgan
24 Katt Williams
25 Aries Spears

Awesome, will check those dudes out, a couple of guys i never heard of or didnt even knew did standup.


Back to Griffin....... I am not 100% sure what it is with Griffins latest specials for me, but you know how some standup comedians get funnier and funnier with age... like Carlin/Pryor ... well Griffin doesnt do that for me, in the 90s he was young and in the middle of the hip-hop generation, his material & delivery was just like that, funky, wild, stylish and COOL and he used to do so much funny physical/slapstick stuff aswell... that doesnt work anymore, he has growed up, this is a new era, he cant be that guy anymore.... It feels like to me he is one of those guys that really need to be at the right moment and at the right time....

[L.Kizzle]

Awesome, will check those dudes out, a couple of guys i never heard of or didnt even knew did standup.


Back to Griffin....... I am not 100% sure what it is with Griffins latest specials for me, but you know how some standup comedians get funnier and funnier with age... like Carlin/Pryor ... well Griffin doesnt do that for me, in the 90s he was young and in the middle of the hip-hop generation, his material & delivery was just like that, funky, wild, stylish and COOL and he used to do so much funny physical/slapstick stuff aswell... that doesnt work anymore, he has growed up, this is a new era, he cant be that guy anymore.... It feels like to me he is one of those guys that really need to be at the right moment and at the right time....
I'm the opposite, I think he actually got better with age. Of course, he reachin 50 and is not as nimble as he was on that HBO One Night Stand he did back in the day, but his stand up seems much smarter. He's very consistent.

He's always been deep, like his routine on the Bible that lasted basically the whole 30 minutes. That was genius and he was just 24-25 when he did that. You Can Tell Em I Said It, had some deep material in it.


Hell, Chappelle's first two were better than his last For What It's Worth.

[PieceOfFelt]

Chappelle is far superior.

- Felt

[L.Kizzle]

Eddie Griffin is currently in tour with heavy hitters DL Hughley, Cedric the Entertainer, George Lopez and Charlie Murphy. Called the Black and Brown Tour.

Dave Chappelle just filmed an HBO special that should premier later this year.

[GimmeThat]

Eddie Griffin is currently in tour with heavy hitters DL Hughley, Cedric the Entertainer, George Lopez and Charlie Murphy. Called the Black and Brown Tour.

Dave Chappelle just filmed an HBO special that should premier later this year.

apparently, when you are homeless, you are homeless. when you are in the comedy business.

By these titles, I can be the predator, or the invited guest.

Talking about bitches for an Asian man.
Cus all the sluts crowding the hbo special

[warriorfan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGza4XU_W78


"my momma cusses so much I thought my name was mother fuccer as a kid" :oldlol:

[ArbitraryWater]

Don't know anything bout Eddie Griffin but diggin' his skit on Dre 2001

[Take Your Lumps]

Hart is good, but he's not even on Tommy Davidson's level and Tommy is not even top 25. And Damon is better than Chappelle, but I mean that seriously, not just to show props.

I'll make a better list, best black comics from 1990 to present day.

1 Rock
1 Martin Lawrence
3 Damon Wayans
4 Chappelle
5 Griffin
6 Hughley
7 Sinbad (mad underrated)
8 Bernie Mac
9 David Alan Grier
10 Cedric
11 Tommy Davidson
12 George Wallace
13 Patrice O'Neal
14 Wanda Sykes (women need love too)
15 Bill Bellamy
16 Steve Harvey
17 Mark Curry
18 Chris Tucker
19 Jamie Foxx
20 Faizon Love
21 Kevin Hart
22 Joe Torry
23 Tracy Morgan
24 Katt Williams
25 Aries Spears

Respect for recognizing Sinbad...he always gets overshadowed by much lesser talents and gets cast aside because of his "clean" material. Clean or not, the dude is naturally funny as ****.

[Rameek]

Overall Chappelle Show peak trumps so many other comedians...

Yet if its based on overall career work Eddie Griffin wins. I've seen him a few times.

[tmacattack33]

After watching both of these men over the past 15+ years, I have come to the conclusion that Eddie Griffin is a greater stand up performer than Dave Chappelle.


http://www.makems.com/celebrities/picture/dave-chappelle-eddie-griffin


While Dave obviously had a higher peak, Griffin has been putting out consistent stand up material for a long, long time. Dave is the better side man in films though, like in Nutty Professor, Blue Streak and even Undercover Brother with Eddie Griffin.


Dave has just 3 stand up specials compared to 7 for Eddie Griffin.


GRIFFIN
92 HBO One Night Stand
94 The Black Man's Bible
97 VooDoo Child
02 The Last Stand: Raw & Uncut
03 Dysfunktional Family
08 Freedom of Speech
11 You Can Tell 'Em I Said It

CHAPPELLE
97 HBO Comedy Half-Hour
00 Killin' Them Softly
05 For What It's Worth

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What's your take?




You are vastly overrating the importance and significance of a "special".

A "special" is no different than a regular show, except there is a camera crew there.

For instance, Chappelle has been doing stand up around the country for the past few years, and from various youtube clips I've seen, the sh*t is hilarious. But according to you it doesn't count, because he never officially called up a camera crew to make these shows into "specials".

[L.Kizzle]

You are vastly overrating the importance and significance of a "special".

A "special" is no different than a regular show, except there is a camera crew there.

For instance, Chappelle has been doing stand up around the country for the past few years, and from various youtube clips I've seen, the sh*t is hilarious. But according to you it doesn't count, because he never officially called up a camera crew to make these shows into "specials".
Never said it didn't count. But a special is where various people who don't go to a comedy show can get a glimpse of the performer.

Chappelle has a special on HBO later this year.

[highwhey]

Chappelle got pretty buff so I'm going with him in a fight to the death.

[oarabbus]

Dave Chappelle is light years ahead of Eddie Griffin. It's not even close. TBH I feel bad for Dave getting disrespected badly with this comparison

Dave vs. Chris Rock would have been more fair. Damn I wish Chris Rock went back to the mic.

[L.Kizzle]

I saw Eddie's show, "The Eddie Griffin Experience" the other day and the man is amazing.

Also, his opening act is Mason Pryor, Richard Pryor's son.

[Smook B]

Dave Chappelle easily.