Why dont america do more for the homelss?

[martycrane]

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hey im just wonderin rite now if it would be a good idea durin a reccesion to raise taxes on the middle class to help provide apartments n things for ppl livin on the street? i think its pretty gualing that in america we have ppl making 50 or 60 thousand dollars in a year when some ppl are literally scrapin change. some of these ppl have kids n families. i mean i just think its greedy that if u have the luxury to work 40 hours a week at a tech company that u can fill ur new honda wit gas n go out to eat at applebees n watch directTV n stuff when ppl are seriously just lyin in the street.

is it a good idea to raise more taxes from like 50 to 100 thousand $ earners so we can give ppl more help? we r gonna raise the high income taxes back pretty soon to help the middle class. they dont get the option of donatin it or nothin the govt just gonna say 'no middle class (our voters) r more important than rich' n frame it like its some nice n necessary thing but if thats how we feel n make the rich out to be greedy, shoudl we apply the same mandatory relief increases for the lower class who usualy dont vote?

or is it not bout principles n just bout 1 way hipocracy where the middle class can say 'rich r greedy n should give more, but.... well its different for us compared to homeless, thats totally different. bc i dont wanna give my money away. its only the rich that r greedy'

what u think?

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hey im just wonderin rite now if it would be a good idea durin a reccesion to raise taxes on the middle class to help provide apartments n things for ppl livin on the street? i think its pretty gualing that in america we have ppl making 50 or 60 thousand dollars in a year when some ppl are literally scrapin change. some of these ppl have kids n families. i mean i just think its greedy that if u have the luxury to work 40 hours a week at a tech company that u can fill ur new honda wit gas n go out to eat at applebees n watch directTV n stuff when ppl are seriously just lyin in the street.

is it a good idea to raise more taxes from like 50 to 100 thousand $ earners so we can give ppl more help? we r gonna raise the high income taxes back pretty soon to help the middle class. they dont get the option of donatin it or nothin the govt just gonna say 'no middle class (our voters) r more important than rich' n frame it like its some nice n necessary thing but if thats how we feel n make the rich out to be greedy, shoudl we apply the same mandatory relief increases for the lower class who usualy dont vote?

or is it not bout principles n just bout 1 way hipocracy where the middle class can say 'rich r greedy n should give more, but.... well its different for us compared to homeless, thats totally different. bc i dont wanna give my money away. its only the rich that r greedy'

what u think?

Um, depending on what part of the country you're in, you're not living an extravagant life if a family's income is 50-60k.

But I'd rather spend some federal money fixing our problems than creating problems in other countries, that's for sure.

[Nick Young]

survival of the fittest

[DeuceWallaces]

You're about 15 right?

[AlonzoGOAT]

Um, depending on what part of the country you're in, you're not living an extravagant life if a family's income is 50-60k.

But I'd rather spend some federal money fixing our problems than creating problems in other countries, that's for sure.

Agreed i'm struggling at 90k and single.

[martycrane]

You're about 15 right?


haha u made a similar comment inthe other topic i started, i notice neither time u got an opinion to give. if im 15 by comparison u must be 6. i got a daughter ur age maybe u 2 can be friends. share trainin bras wit each other when the time comes. if any of the guys on this site start hittin on u let me kno sweetheart n ill call the police, i bet the jailbet is pretty temptin 2 some of them.


i actually feel bad beefin wit a girl on the internet but damn if u cant have a real discussion just stay in the kitchen! ur givin ur gender a bad look. (lol no offense to any of the other girls. i think my daughter literally is smarter than this chick)

[AK47DR91]

I make about $20,000 and I'm doing fine.

I do with my parents, however. That's the only struggle.

haha u made a similar comment inthe other topic i started, i notice neither time u got an opinion to give. if im 15 by comparison u must be 6. i got a daughter ur age maybe u 2 can be friends. share trainin bras wit each other when the time comes. if any of the guys on this site start hittin on u let me kno sweetheart n ill call the police, i bet the jailbet is pretty temptin 2 some of them.


i actually feel bad beefin wit a girl on the internet but damn if u cant have a real discussion just stay in the kitchen! ur givin ur gender a bad look. (lol no offense to any of the other girls. i think my daughter literally is smarter than this chick)
I'm 99.9% sure he's a guy.

[martycrane]

I make about $20,000 and I'm doing fine.

I do with my parents, however. That's the only struggle.

well damn if u alrdy got a place to live and u makin 20,000 witout havin to pay rent, u definitely should pay higher taxes to help the homeless man. if someone who make 500,000 has to pay more to help some1 makin 85,000, u got the same advantage by comparison on someone makin 100 bucks a year inchange at most. so why the inconsitnency?



I'm 99.9% sure he's a guy.


oh lol well i thought it was a chick cuz of the pic underneath his name, i guess the guy wit the alonzo pic aint really alonzo mourning tho either haha

[Crystallas]

May as well. The taxes that are raised mainly go to the rich who write the laws for congress and the president to pass and sign in, anyways.

[KG215]

Um, depending on what part of the country you're in, you're not living an extravagant life if a family's income is 50-60k.

But I'd rather spend some federal money fixing our problems than creating problems in other countries, that's for sure.

I grew up in a house in that income bracket. Both my parents are teachers and were making a combined $70K-$90K most of my life. They've been teaching long enough now that they're both making $50K+ a year but when I was younger and they were making a combined $50K-$60K money got really tight once or twice a month when certain bills had to be paid.

It does help we live in Arkansas where the cost of living is really cheap compared to a lot of other places in the country.

[DeuceWallaces]

haha u made a similar comment inthe other topic i started, i notice neither time u got an opinion to give. if im 15 by comparison u must be 6. i got a daughter ur age maybe u 2 can be friends. share trainin bras wit each other when the time comes. if any of the guys on this site start hittin on u let me kno sweetheart n ill call the police, i bet the jailbet is pretty temptin 2 some of them.


i actually feel bad beefin wit a girl on the internet but damn if u cant have a real discussion just stay in the kitchen! ur givin ur gender a bad look. (lol no offense to any of the other girls. i think my daughter literally is smarter than this chick)

There's no way you have a steady job, a kid, and pay taxes.

[Bucket_Nakedz]

Because we're greedy. Everybody wants the latest apple product but no one wants to buy an apple for mr wendall.

[martycrane]

There's no way you have a steady job, a kid, and pay taxes.


yeah b theres a big time way, cuz i man up. dont act like im a gift to the world n i go to work, keep the lights on at home n food on the table, an im tryin to figure out how to work my way up to a better life which requires participation n stayin informed. so thats what im doin n thats my mission.

ur like the opposite, actin like ur some gift to every1 but u got nothin to say. ur just hangin around like a bird flitting in perchin on the shoulder of a bunch of ox that r plowin thru the damn fields wit brute strength. ur the flitty lil bird man. just standin there chirpin while every1 else gets er done.

[Cowboy Thunder]

why can't said homeless man get a job?


He was provided a free public education in the greatest nation on earth. He has access to all kind of free government aid as it is.

He knew the laws before he was incarcerated. He had a chance to learn. He can receive more than enough food stamps or welfare to live. If he gets off his ass and walks to the public administration building.


Middle class is working hard enough to provide the luxuries of hard work to their kids and instill that work effort into them. They need not carry anymore of a tax load. We all need less taxes and more work ethic. Government can't fix shit, the people have to.

[knickballer]

Agreed i'm struggling at 90k and single.

you need to manage your money better

[Smoke117]

Most people that are homeless are nuts. It wasn't like they just fell on bad times. They belong in group homes or in mental institutes. Where I live outside my neighborhood on the main street there is a group home for mental patients that have been deemed well enough to live outside an institute. Some may also be addicts I'm not sure, but one guy told me twice he was jesus christ, so I'm pretty sure he's ****ing crazy.

[-p.tiddy-]

Most people that are homeless are nuts. It wasn't like they just fell on bad times. They belong in group homes or in mental institutes. Where I live outside my neighborhood on the main street there is a group home for mental patients that have been deemed well enough to live outside an institute. Some may also be addicts I'm not sure, but one guy told me twice he was jesus christ, so I'm pretty sure he's ****ing crazy.
yeah I remember reading somewhere that like 30% of homeless people have either severe bipolar disorder or severe schizophrenia...

its pretty sad

[AK47DR91]

well damn if u alrdy got a place to live and u makin 20,000 witout havin to pay rent, u definitely should pay higher taxes to help the homeless man. if someone who make 500,000 has to pay more to help some1 makin 85,000, u got the same advantage by comparison on someone makin 100 bucks a year inchange at most. so why the inconsitnency?
Well, I don't plan on living with moms and pops for the rest of my life. The money I'm saving up on rent is for me to go back to school. I'm not really living off of it like a baller.

Like, Cowboy Thunder said, why can't the homeless get a job? Clean up your act. Get sober. Go back to school(find a way to get financial aide). Go volunteer and maybe you'll make some connections and land a job. It'll be hard but there's always a chance if you give yourself a chance.

EDIT: I'm referring to the homeless who are sane and physically healthy to clean up, of course.

[rezznor]

Imaginary negged

[flipogb]

wonder what the percentages are of homeless people that

turned crazy because they are homeless VS became homeless because they are crazy

[Hazard]

Most homeless people are on crack, meth, heroin or some other debilitating street drug. Giving those people an apartment for free is in no way profitable to any landlord and in turn ****s them cause it will most likely turn into a crack house. There are homeless shelters that provide them with food, water and other necessities that they can utilize, however most don't because they prefer that lifestyle.

I'll sometimes buy them a sandwich or a 40 but **** no I ain't giving them part of my paycheck so they can spend it all on ****ing themselves up. Not unless all my loans become forgiven, which obviously will never happen.

That's obviously not all homeless people, a large percentage of homeless are veterans. Its pretty damn sad that these scumbag fascists cant even create social programs to help those that gave up everything to put money in their damn pockets. ****ing savages.

[Akrazotile]

Threads like these are always so short, but threads about the greedy 1% are always so long.

[Take Your Lumps]

Have to love American religious conservatives.

Fight tooth and nail against biological Darwinism. Economic survival of the fittest? **** yea Merica!!1


That's obviously not all homeless people, a large percentage of homeless are veterans. Its pretty damn sad that these scumbag fascists cant even create social programs to help those that gave up everything to put money in their damn pockets. ****ing savages.

Just imagine how many homeless veterans would be taken care of with just *1* of those private contracts in Iraq/Afghanistan. Scumbags.

[travelingman]

Threads like these are always so short, but threads about the greedy 1% are always so long.

Thread envy. You are a thread cuckold.

[Akrazotile]

Thread envy. You are a thread cuckold.


So?

[Akrazotile]

Have to love American religious conservatives.

Fight tooth and nail against biological Darwinism. Economic survival of the fittest? **** yea Merica!!1




Youre saying its hypocritical to support one and not the other?

[travelingman]

So?

You have to sit on the sidelines while the mandingo threads get all of the post action.

[DukeDelonte13]

why can't said homeless man get a job?


He was provided a free public education in the greatest nation on earth. He has access to all kind of free government aid as it is.

He knew the laws before he was incarcerated. He had a chance to learn. He can receive more than enough food stamps or welfare to live. If he gets off his ass and walks to the public administration building.


Middle class is working hard enough to provide the luxuries of hard work to their kids and instill that work effort into them. They need not carry anymore of a tax load. We all need less taxes and more work ethic. Government can't fix shit, the people have to.


because a major percentage of homeless people have severe mental health issues. Treatment only gets you so far, the person that's sick has to want to take the medicine, they can't be forced. If they are off their rocker, they usually don't want to take their drugs.

Prisons and Jails force schizophrenics and the like to take their meds. They have to for safety reasons. A lot of families of people that are schizophrenic are actually happy when their loved one goes to jail or prison, because they can finally get a chance to get on meds and hopefully start thinking straight to go get their lives back on track.

[KNOW1EDGE]

Homeless people are homeless because of mental illness and by their own choice. There are countless resources provided for them.

But the dudes on the corners holding signs make more money than teachers so why would they stop?

If people actually want to solve the homelessness issue in America, stop giving them money. Start giving them job applications and hygiene products

[travelingman]

But the dudes on the corners holding signs make more money than teachers so why would they stop?
[citation needed]

[Akrazotile]

You have to sit on the sidelines while the mandingo threads get all of the post action.


So?

[Akrazotile]

Lets keep this goin, folks!

[GimmeThat]

because it's important to have a balanced budget in terms of social workers to poverty/unemployment benefits.

[Akrazotile]

because it's important to have a balanced budget in terms of social workers to poverty/unemployment benefits.


GREAT perspective, bro didley. A plus. :applause:


You wanna grab some lunch maybe?

[GimmeThat]

GREAT perspective, bro didley. A plus. :applause:


You wanna grab some lunch maybe?


I sure hope there's a lot of topic we can talk sh*t about

[MadeFromDust]

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hey im just wonderin rite now if it would be a good idea durin a reccesion to raise taxes on the middle class to help provide apartments n things for ppl livin on the street? i think its pretty gualing that in america we have ppl making 50 or 60 thousand dollars in a year when some ppl are literally scrapin change. some of these ppl have kids n families. i mean i just think its greedy that if u have the luxury to work 40 hours a week at a tech company that u can fill ur new honda wit gas n go out to eat at applebees n watch directTV n stuff when ppl are seriously just lyin in the street.

is it a good idea to raise more taxes from like 50 to 100 thousand $ earners so we can give ppl more help? we r gonna raise the high income taxes back pretty soon to help the middle class. they dont get the option of donatin it or nothin the govt just gonna say 'no middle class (our voters) r more important than rich' n frame it like its some nice n necessary thing but if thats how we feel n make the rich out to be greedy, shoudl we apply the same mandatory relief increases for the lower class who usualy dont vote?

or is it not bout principles n just bout 1 way hipocracy where the middle class can say 'rich r greedy n should give more, but.... well its different for us compared to homeless, thats totally different. bc i dont wanna give my money away. its only the rich that r greedy'

what u think?
You must really resent NBA player salaries :rolleyes:

[Akrazotile]

I sure hope there's a lot of topic we can talk sh*t about


Well actually I prefer to eat in silence.


:crazysam:

[IamRAMBO24]

Most people that are homeless are nuts.

True.

You can thank Reagan for cutting programs that house millions of these crazy people.

[stalkerforlife]

Because America is full of pretentious, lazy, entitled, pieces of shit.

[Akrazotile]

True.

You can thank Reagan for cutting programs that house millions of these crazy people.


:oldlol:

If all the people that gave them money on the street instead made an equivalent donation to a shelter each month, we wouldnt need any government "programs" to provide the shelter.


But nobody sees you when you send a check in the mail. On the street, everyone around sees your generous heart bestowing your benevolent offerings to the downtrodden. What a noble Robin Hood you are! Positively everyone thinks so. You are kind and important, and best of all, everyone else can see it.

Donating to a shelter that can help these people is the better thing to do, but pubicly handing out little gifts like some all-important rescuer, the beacon of good and necessary, is just so much more self satisfying, isnt it?

[MadeFromDust]

:oldlol:

If all the people that gave them money on the street instead made an equivalent donation to a shelter each month, we wouldnt need any government "programs" to provide the shelter.


But nobody sees you when you send a check in the mail. On the street, everyone around sees your generous heart bestowing your benevolent offerings to the downtrodden. What a noble Robin Hood you are! Positively everyone thinks so. You are kind and important, and best of all, everyone else can see it.

Donating to a shelter that can help these people is the better thing to do, but pubicly handing out little gifts like some all-important rescuer, the beacon of good and necessary, is just so much more self satisfying, isnt it?

Good stuff, mang :applause:

[travelingman]

but pubicly handing out little gifts
:biggums:

[nathanjizzle]

i walked out of a restaurant one time and their was a homeless person by the door. he asked me for money for some food. I reached into my pocket, pulled out a one dollar bill, handed it to him and walked away. As i walked away, i could here him say "ouhh a itty bitty dollar" in a sarcastic tone and some other mumble jumble.

[Akrazotile]

BUMP shaka laka

[IamRAMBO24]

:oldlol:

If all the people that gave them money on the street instead made an equivalent donation to a shelter each month, we wouldnt need any government "programs" to provide the shelter.


But nobody sees you when you send a check in the mail. On the street, everyone around sees your generous heart bestowing your benevolent offerings to the downtrodden. What a noble Robin Hood you are! Positively everyone thinks so. You are kind and important, and best of all, everyone else can see it.

Donating to a shelter that can help these people is the better thing to do, but pubicly handing out little gifts like some all-important rescuer, the beacon of good and necessary, is just so much more self satisfying, isnt it?

I'm not talking about shelters. I'm talking about psychiatric hospitals that used to house many of these homeless people. I mean they're crazy; crazy people can't function like normal people and get a job. Reagan pretty much got rid of all these psychiatric hospitals and as a result many of the homeless people in america are on the streets. Ever wonder why homeless people seem a bit crazy? That's because they really are.

[navy]

Because we're greedy. Everybody wants the latest apple product but no one wants to buy an apple for mr wendall.
Guilty.

[East_Stone_Ya]

why should the government do something about it?

[IamRAMBO24]

why should the government do something about it?

It is a disability. We help the elderly and handicap people; it's crazy we have forgotten about the people with mental illnesses. Crazy people should be taken care of in any society. They are sick and need our assistance more than any other group.

[Akrazotile]

It is a disability. We help the elderly and handicap people; it's crazy we have forgotten about the people with mental illnesses. Crazy people should be taken care of in any society. They are sick and need our assistance more than any other group.


I know you b trollin just for arguments sake and are in agreement with me on other accounts, but to those who actually do harbor that sentiment:

It's extremely hard to lock people up against their will these days just for being crazy. Has nothing to do with Reagan. You can actually thank establishments like the ACLU for that more than anything.

And regardless, whether it's a shelter or a psychiatric hospital, if people donated as much to those establishments each year as they doled out to guys sleeping in crusty rags in the middle of the sidewalk so everyone could see them being generous, I seriously doubt shelters and hospitals would need a single dollar of government funding. They'd be fully self sufficient.

[NZStreetBaller]

society is like a big pot of stew if you dont give it a stir up every now and then crap rises to the top.......

I think the mentality of society nowadays is make money, follow your dreams, nefver give up, achieve your goals.

Not help those in need make america a better country.