Best player in the NBA since Jordan retired from the Bulls

[StateOfMind12]

In my opinion,

1999 - Tim Duncan
2000 - Shaquille O'Neal
2001 - Shaquille O'Neal
2002 - Shaquille O'Neal
2003 - Tim Duncan
2004 - Kevin Garnett
2005 - Tim Duncan
2006 - Kobe Bryant
2007 - Kobe Bryant
2008 - Kobe Bryant
2009 - Lebron James
2010 - Lebron James
2011 - Lebron James
2012 - Lebron James

Note - 2011 Dirk had a better season than LeBron did but LeBron was the better overall player. You could say the same for 2009 and 2010 with Kobe as well and that he had a better season but was just a worse overall player.

[MeLO MvP 15]

I don't disagree... I'm just amazed how AI didn't get one.

[WockaVodka]

I don't disagree... I'm just amazed how AI didn't get one.
Iverson was never a top 3 player so I'm really not sure why you would be surprised that he wasn't the best player in the NBA.

[Orlando Magic]

1999 - Shaquille O'Neal
2000 - Shaquille O'Neal
2001 - Shaquille O'Neal
2002 - Shaquille O'Neal
2003 - Shaquille O'Neal
2004 - Shaquille O'Neal
2005 - Shaquille O'Neal
2006 - LeBron James
2007 - LeBron James
2008 - LeBron James
2009 - Lebron James
2010 - Lebron James
2011 - Lebron James
2012 - Lebron James

[swi7ch]

Iverson was never a top 3 player so I'm really not sure why you would be surprised that he wasn't the best player in the NBA.

In 01 he won the MVP and he's not even a top 3 player in that year?

[WockaVodka]

In 01 he won the MVP and he's not even a top 3 player in that year?
Duncan, O'Neal, and Bryant were all better than him that season but I suppose you could argue Iverson over Bryant but I personally thought Bryant was better.

[che guevara]

I don't disagree... I'm just amazed how AI didn't get one.

What? AI's prime overlapped with Duncan and Shaq's (and later Kobe's), all significantly better and more impactful players than Iverson ever was.

'99: Duncan
'00: Shaq
'01: Shaq
'02: Shaq
'03: Duncan
'04: KG
'05: Nash
'06: Kobe
'07: Kobe
'08: CP3
'09: Lebron
'10: Lebron
'11: Lebron
'12: Lebron

[Deuce Bigalow]

1999 - Tim Duncan
2000 - Shaquille O'Neal
2001 - Shaquille O'Neal
2002 - Shaquille O'Neal
2003 - Tim Duncan
2004 - Kevin Garnett
2005 - Tim Duncan
2006 - Kobe Bryant
2007 - Kobe Bryant
2008 - Kobe Bryant
2009 - Lebron James
2010 - Kobe Bryant
2011 - Dirk Nowitzki
2012 - Lebron James

[Heavincent]

1999 - Tim Duncan
2000 - Shaquille O'Neal
2001 - Shaquille O'Neal
2002 - Shaquille O'Neal
2003 - Tim Duncan
2004 - Kevin Garnett
2005 - Tim Duncan
2006 - Kobe Bryant
2007 - Kobe Bryant
2008 - Kobe Bryant
2009 - Kobe Bryant
2010 - Kobe Bryant
2011 - Dirk Nowitzki
2012 - Lebron James

[SuperPippen]

'99 - Duncan
'00 - Shaq
'01 - Shaq
'02 - Shaq
'03 - Duncan
'04 - KG
'05 - Duncan
'06 - Kobe
'07 - Kobe
'08 - Kobe
'09 - LeBron
'10 - LeBron
'11 - Nowitzki
'12 - LeBron

[AK47DR91]

Note - 2011 Dirk had a better season than LeBron did but LeBron was the better overall player. You could say the same for 2009 and 2010 with Kobe as well and that he had a better season but was just a worse overall player.
I think you meant Dirk had the better playoff run. But I get what you're trying to say.

[RRR3]

T-Mac for 2003 :pimp:
I might go with D12 over LBJ in 2011 not sure :confusedshrug: Probably still LBJ actually, but IMO D12 should have won MVP

[Ikill]

Duncan
Shaq
Shaq
Shaq
Duncan
KG
Duncan
Kobe
Kobe
Kobe
Lebron
Lebron
Wade
Lebron

[BlackVVaves]

In my opinion,

1999 - Tim Duncan
2000 - Shaquille O'Neal
2001 - Shaquille O'Neal
2002 - Shaquille O'Neal
2003 - Tim Duncan
2004 - Kevin Garnett
2005 - Tim Duncan
2006 - Kobe Bryant
2007 - Kobe Bryant
2008 - Kobe Bryant
2009 - Lebron James
2010 - Lebron James
2011 - Lebron James
2012 - Lebron James

Note - 2011 Dirk had a better season than LeBron did but LeBron was the better overall player. You could say the same for 2009 and 2010 with Kobe as well and that he had a better season but was just a worse overall player.

98% accurate, my list is completely identical except I'm not entirely sure whom I'd give best player honors to in 2009 between Kobe and Lebron.


Lebron averaged 28, 7, and 7 on 49% shooting that year, but lost in the Conference Finals.

Kobe averaged 27, 5, and 5 on 47% shooting that year, but won the NBA championship.


There's only 1 point, 2 rebounds, 2 assists, and 2 percentage points separating the two.

The trend continues into the playoffs. Take a look at the Conference Finals.


Lebron averaged 39, 8, and 8 on 48% shooting.

Kobe averaged 34, 6, and 6, on 49% shooting.


Essentially, I'd give the nod to Lebron, but I also could understand if someone made an argument for Kobe. It's not as cut-throat as many posters lead others to believe, in my opinion at least.

Now, for an idiot to come into this thread and say Kobe was better than Lebron in 2010, when he averaged 30, 7, and 9 on 50% shooting, that's something extremely different, and deserves an infinite amount of facepalms attached.

[Story Up]

99' Duncan
00-02' Shaq
03' Duncan
04' Garnett
05' Duncan
06' Wade
07' -09' Bryant
10 - James
11' - Dirk
12' - James



10' I can see an argument for Bryant over James and in 08' Paul over Bryant.
Overall, Duncan/Kobe/Duncs with 3 each, James with 2, Wade, Garnett and Dirk with 1.

So overall

[RIP CITY]

1999 - Tim Duncan
2000 - Shaquille O'Neal
2001 - Shaquille O'Neal
2002 - Shaquille O'Neal
2003 - Tim Duncan
2004 - Tim Duncan
2005 - Tim Duncan
2006 - Tim Duncan
2007 - Kobe Bryant
2008 - Kobe Bryant
2009 - Kobe Bryant
2010 - Kobe Bryant
2011 - LeBron James
2012 - Lebron James

To me you have to TAKE the mantle of best player away from the previous player, you don't just get it because you played alittle better one particular year. Kevin Garnett was never the best player in the NBA, in 2004 he played slightly better than Duncan but I would still choose Duncan in 2004 to be on my team. Dirk Nowitzki was never a Top 5 player in the NBA. He played like it during the 2006 Playoff Series against San Antonio and most of the 2011 Playoffs but even then there was always at least 5 players I would rather have on my team that were better overall players than he was.

[StateOfMind12]

Essentially, I'd give the nod to Lebron, but I also could understand if someone made an argument for Kobe. It's not as cut-throat as many posters lead others to believe, in my opinion at least.
I agree. 2009 is actually close between Kobe and LeBron and sometimes I do say that Kobe was better than LeBron that season. A lot of people are only fascinated with LeBron that season because of his numbers but I personally thought LeBron was better in 2010 and 2012 than he was in 2009.



I think you meant Dirk had the better playoff run. But I get what you're trying to say.
No, I meant he had a better season even if you include regular season. Dirk was close to being an MVP favorite before he had gotten injured and missed 9 games during the middle of that season. Mavericks were 2-7 when Dirk was out and I believe the Mavericks finished with a very similar record to the Heat, 1 win less I believe.

[LakersFan626]

1999 - Tim Duncan
2000 - Shaquille O'Neal
2001 - Shaquille O'Neal
2002 - Shaquille O'Neal
2003 - Tim Duncan
2004 - Kevin Garnett
2005 - Tim Duncan
2006 - Kobe Bryant
2007 - Kobe Bryant
2008 - Kobe Bryant
2009 - Kobe Bryant
2010 - Kobe Bryant
2011 - Dirk Nowitzki
2012 - Lebron James

This.

[Jax]

Kobetards never cease to amaze me LOL

[kennethgriffin]

In my opinion,

1999 - Shaquille O'neal
2000 - Shaquille O'Neal
2001 - Shaquille O'Neal
2002 - Shaquille O'Neal
2003 - Kobe Bryant
2004 - Tim Duncan
2005 - Tim Duncan
2006 - Kobe Bryant
2007 - Kobe Bryant
2008 - Kobe Bryant
2009 - Kobe Bryant
2010 - Kobe Bryant
2011 - Lebron James
2012 - Lebron James

Note - 2011 Dirk had a better season than LeBron did but LeBron was the better overall player. You could say the same for 2009 and 2010 with Kobe as well and that he had a better season but was just a worse overall player.


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its not all about stats

[NumberSix]

1999 - Shaquille O'Neal
2000 - Shaquille O'Neal
2001 - Shaquille O'Neal
2002 - Shaquille O'Neal
2003 - Shaquille O'Neal
2004 - Shaquille O'Neal
2005 - Shaquille O'Neal
2006 - LeBron James
2007 - LeBron James
2008 - LeBron James
2009 - Lebron James
2010 - Lebron James
2011 - Lebron James
2012 - Lebron James
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[kennethgriffin]

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You Think I Go By What the Media and Fanship Say? :rolleyes: :no:

I Go by What i Saw and by Profund Broken Down Stats Which May Not Agree With My Favorite Players but Give Out REALITY.

SHAQ was The MOST DOMINANT PLAYER since MJ

[kennethgriffin]

You Think I Go By What the Media and Fanship Say? :rolleyes: :no:

I Go by What i Saw and by Profund Broken Down Stats Which May Not Agree With My Favorite Players but Give Out REALITY.

SHAQ was The MOST DOMINANT PLAYER since MJ


nobodys telling you to go by what media and fans say

everyone has their own opinion

yours is the minority

and thus.... quite lame

[BlackVVaves]

Someone please explain to me using substantial evidence why and how Kobe was the best player in the league over Lebron in 2010

If you're using " he won a title that year" as your only argument, than you are admitting that Kobe was not the best player in 2006, 2007, or 2008.

[Round Mound]

nobodys telling you to go by what media and fans say

everyone has their own opinion

yours is the minority

and thus.... quite lame

Majorities are Lamer Than My Opinions Cause They Fallow What the Media and Hype Say... Not By Realistical Analysis.

Name me a Player that Was Doubled and Tripled as Much as Shaq in NBA History and STILL SCORE 24-25 PPG ON 60% FG? NOT EVEN WILT...so show more Respect to Shaq who gave Kobe`s 3 1st Rings and WAS THE BEST PLAYER since Jordan from the Late 90s and Early Mid 00s.

Shaq was a Better Player than Bryant. Stats and REAL B-BALL OPINIONS (Older Guys that Watched Basketball For Way Longer Than The Kids On thus Forum) WILL AGREE.

[Round Mound]

Someone please explain to me using substantial evidence why and how Kobe was the best player in the league over Lebron.

If you're using " he won a title that year" as your only argument, than you are admitting that Kobe was not the best player in 2006, 2007, or 2008.

They Dissmiss Broken Down Stats of Efficiency and Dominance and Plus/Minus aswell.

That Regarding Level of Teamates and Level of Play Is What Show Who Where The Best Players in Their Time or Now: LEBRON BY MILES!!!

[WockaVodka]

These players all have good cases for these seasons.

2005 - Shaq
2006 - Wade
2007 - Duncan
2008 - KG and CP3
2009 - Wade and Kobe
2010 - Wade and Kobe
2011 - Dirk, Wade, and Howard

[EnoughSaid]

Lmao at Kobe stans saying that it's not only about stats when they put Kobe in 09 and 10... But they don't put Wade up there in 06. :facepalm

[midatlantic09]

What? AI's prime overlapped with Duncan and Shaq's (and later Kobe's), all significantly better and more impactful players than Iverson ever was.

'99: Duncan
'00: Shaq
'01: Shaq
'02: Shaq
'03: Duncan
'04: KG
'05: Nash
'06: Kobe
'07: Kobe
'08: CP3
'09: Lebron
'10: Lebron
'11: Lebron
'12: Lebron

:no:

[iamgine]

Why not Duncan on 06 and 07 as well?

Duncan didn't really decline as a player yet. Just look at his playoff numbers.

And Kobe didn't really get better. He just had to carry the scoring load along with getting the advantage of rule change.

[WockaVodka]

Why not Duncan on 06 and 07 as well?

Duncan didn't really decline as a player yet. Just look at his playoff numbers.

And Kobe didn't really get better. He just had to carry the scoring load along with getting the advantage of rule change.
Duncan was noticeable worse in 2006 due to the plantar fasciitis injury he suffered in the regular season so I understand why people consider Kobe better that year. He put up nice numbers in the post-season but they were against two pretty weak defensive teams and front-courts with the Kings and Mavericks.

I agree that Duncan should be ahead of Kobe in 2007 though especially since Kobe had coasted defensively that season.

[kennethgriffin]

They Dissmiss Broken Down Stats of Efficiency and Dominance and Plus/Minus aswell.

That Regarding Level of Teamates and Level of Play Is What Show Who Where The Best Players in Their Time or Now: LEBRON BY MILES!!!

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[PJR]

1999 - Shaquille O'Neal
2000 - Shaquille O'Neal
2001 - Shaquille O'Neal
2002 - Shaquille O'Neal
2003 - Shaquille O'Neal
2004 - Shaquille O'Neal
2005 - Shaquille O'Neal
2006 - LeBron James
2007 - LeBron James
2008 - LeBron James
2009 - Lebron James
2010 - Lebron James
2011 - Lebron James
2012 - Lebron James

This.

[kennethgriffin]

This.

lol kobe fans are objective.

kobe haters dont even try


atleast we have common sense

how does a guy get voted player of the decade and not be the best in a single year of that decade

morons

all morons

goodnight

[StateOfMind12]

What? AI's prime overlapped with Duncan and Shaq's (and later Kobe's), all significantly better and more impactful players than Iverson ever was.

'99: Duncan
'00: Shaq
'01: Shaq
'02: Shaq
'03: Duncan
'04: KG
'05: Nash
'06: Kobe
'07: Kobe
'08: CP3
'09: Lebron
'10: Lebron
'11: Lebron
'12: Lebron
Would you mind explaining the case for Nash over Duncan in '05? I think Nash does have a good case this season but I would like to hear the argument for it.

[I LUV KOBE]

1999 - Shaquille O'Neal
2000 - Shaquille O'Neal
2001 - Shaquille O'Neal
2002 - Shaquille O'Neal
2003 - Kobe Bryant
2004 - Kobe Bryant
2005 - Kobe Bryant
2006 - Kobe Bryant
2007 - Kobe Bryant
2008 - Kobe Bryant
2009 - Kobe Bryant
2010 - Kobe Bryant
2011 - Lebrick
2012 - Lebrick
^this

There's a reason why Kobe was voted player of the decade..

[INDI]

Note - 2011 Dirk had a better season than LeBron did but LeBron was the better overall player. You could say the same for 2009 and 2010 with Kobe as well and that he had a better season but was just a worse overall player.

I cant agree with this. Whoever had the better season should be given the nod for the better best player that year. That's like saying d rose was the best pg last year, which you know was clearly not the case.

[Quickening]

Kobe fans are just a cancer.

[stylesp]

Kobe fans are just a cancer.

So are LeBron fans.

[AlphaWolf24]

This is how the basketball community see's it(outside of the 1% of the webz fans) ..Kobe was widely viewed as the greatest player of the 2000's ( it wasn't even close)

1999 - Shaq
2000 - Shaq
2001 - Kobe
2002 - Kobe
2003 - Kobe
2004 - Duncan
2005 - Duncan
2006 - Kobe
2007 - Kobe
2008 - Kobe
2009 - Kobe
2010 - Kobe
2011 - Lebron
2012 - Lebron

[kenny817]

Iverson was never a top 3 player so I'm really not sure why you would be surprised that he wasn't the best player in the NBA.

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[Odinn]

Do we not have enough of these threads?

[RaininTwos]

Duncan, O'Neal, and Bryant were all better than him that season but I suppose you could argue Iverson over Bryant but I personally thought Bryant was better.
:biggums:

The dude that got TORCHED by AI?

[DatAsh]

lol kobe fans are objective.


:coleman:

Are we to assume you're not a Kobe fan?