Lakers are the gold standard in the NBA.

[SMoKe0uT]

Miami can try to be LA east all they want but your nothing more than a generic clone and will NEVER come close to the greatness that is LA.

10 years from now HEATS wont be any more renowned than the Knicks or Sixers.

[KyrieTheFuture]

Lol wow.

[Punpun]

That was random. :yaohappy:

[red1]

yo homie why you so insecure

[BlueandGold]

Yes, what you said is true.

[SMoKe0uT]

yo homie why you so insecure


Insecure over 16-2? lol

I am merely the seeker of truth and I found it.

[Hank]

Miami can try to be LA east all they want but your nothing more than a generic clone and will NEVER come close to the greatness that is LA.

10 years from now HEATS wont be any more renowned than the Knicks or Sixers.

who said we were LA East ?? you just coined that phrase & lmao shows how insecure you are !!!:roll: :roll:


F*ck the La Fakers. We are better.. and in thee next 10 years and beyond, will be better

ps- I laugh when Faker fans try to pump their chests when they include championships their city didn't even win. Yes, your insecurity is adorable :lol

[Meticode]

Read the title of the thread.

Clicked the link to open the thread.

Scrolled down.

Typed this.

Didn't read.

[Hank]

lol imagine his anger when he started this thread

haha we are so under his skin and ripping his heart out. And the fact that this will continue for years and years is beautiful

I love it !!!! :applause:

[Zedja]

F*ck the La Fakers. We are better.. and in thee next 10 years and beyond, will be better

Nope the Heat will be irrelevant in 10 years. While the Lakers will still have a contending team :lol :lol you really gotta stop spewing shit. I really doubt you could even handle the amount of bullshit you put out of your god damn mouth.

[DaSeba5]

Great bait thread. It's funny how the Laker fans say it's the Heat fans who only start these threads.

[Doctor Rivers]

lol imagine his anger when he started this thread

haha we are so under his skin and ripping his heart out. And the fact that this will continue for years and years is beautiful

I love it !!!! :applause:

lol all you trolls are hilarious

[Vienceslav]

5 out of 10 players in the top 10 won a ring with the Lakers , they might be doing something right.:roll:

[WeGetRing2012]

The only reason the Heat have 2 rings is because disgruntled superstars leaving their teams (Shaq & Lebron). They don't have a good FO, they have been very weak in the draft, no big trades have been pulled off, etc NOTHING. So many franchises are better than the Heat...Lakers,Bulls,Celtics,Pistons,San Antonio,76ers,Dallas >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heat. And even other teams have done a better job of staying competitive.

[DaSeba5]

Who cares if all those franchises are better? We're not even an old franchise. Nobody is the Lakers. What do you guys want?

I respect people more who root for their home teams and don't jump on the bandwagon, or root for bad teams in other places and stick with them. How many Laker fans here are actually from LA?

[KyrieTheFuture]

I'm just gonna go ahead and say if The Lakers never moved to LA they would have half as many championships.

[WeGetRing2012]

I'm just gonna go ahead and say if The Lakers never moved to LA they would have half as many championships.

Yes LA has always been the reason for success. That's why the Clippers have been great over the years....:facepalm

[The Iron Fist]

I'm just gonna go ahead and say if The Lakers never moved to LA they would have half as many championships.
Im just gonna go ahead and ask you how well the move turned out for the jv squad, the clippers.


So how did it go?

[DFish]

How many Laker fans here are actually from LA?

Umm... all of the real ones? At least from the Southern California area.

[DaSeba5]

Umm... all of the real ones? At least from the Southern California area.

Umm... yah. That was my point.

How many Laker fans here are real?

[PJR]

The only reason the Heat have 2 rings is because disgruntled superstars leaving their teams (Shaq & Lebron). They don't have a good FO, they have been very weak in the draft, no big trades have been pulled off, etc NOTHING. So many franchises are better than the Heat...Lakers,Bulls,Celtics,Pistons,San Antonio,76ers,Dallas >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heat. And even other teams have done a better job of staying competitive.

Lol at this bullshit...

Yes because the Fakers have acquired all their stars thru the draft. Homegrown to the core. F*ck outta here...:oldlol:

[PJR]

Umm... yah. That was my point.

How many Laker fans here are real?

They are clowns on here who claim diehard fanship of the Lakers, and have never stepped foot in Orange County. :oldlol:


Laker 'fans' invented the term 'bandwagon'.

[DFish]

They are clowns on here who claim diehard fanship of the Lakers, and have never stepped foot in Orange County. :oldlol:

LA isn't in Orange County, bromo.

[DaSeba5]

They are clowns on here who claim diehard fanship of the Lakers, and have never stepped foot in Orange County. :oldlol:


Laker 'fans' invented the term 'bandwagon'.

The set the gold standard for bandwagon.

I've been to Miami a million times; I only live an hour away.

[COnDEMnED]

I respect people more who root for their home teams and don't jump on the bandwagon, or root for bad teams in other places and stick with them. How many Laker fans here are actually from LA?

I could piss in the wind and hit Dodger stadium

[DaSeba5]

I could piss in the wind and hit Dodger stadium

Then I respect you.

[WeGetRing2012]

Umm... yah. That was my point.

How many Laker fans here are real?

Born & Raised f*ggot :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

[DaSeba5]

Born & Raised f*ggot :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

Very classy of you.

Way to represent your fanbase.

[COnDEMnED]

Then I respect you.

I thank you for that, but I do see where you're coming from.

[WeGetRing2012]

Lol at this bullshit...

Yes because the Fakers have acquired all their stars thru the draft. Homegrown to the core. F*ck outta here...:oldlol:

Can you not read? No one said we got all of stars through the draft... I was simply talking about the lack of moves the Heat have made over the years.

Dont question the moves we have made. We have drafted legends (Magic & Kobe), traded for legends (Kareem & Pau), signed legends as free agents (Shaq) and we have went out and gotten some of the best coaches to lead us... point is our FO hasn't been sitting back dwindling their fingers waiting for an unhappy superstar to come along.

[DFish]

My blood runs purple and gold.

I feel like driving 10 minutes to Figueroa and 12th and snapping a photo.

[G-Funk]

Its true after their run they still wont be better that the Lakers, Celtics, Spurs & Bulls

[COnDEMnED]

Can you not read? No one said we got all of stars through the draft... I was simply talking about the lack of moves the Heat have made over the years.

Dont question the moves we have made. We have drafted legends (Magic & Kobe), traded for legends (Kareem & Pau), signed legends as free agents (Shaq) and we have went out and gotten some of the best coaches to lead us... point is our FO hasn't been sitting back dwindling their fingers waiting for an unhappy superstar to come along.

Not to disprove your loyalty to the team, but I think we traded Divac for Kobe on draft day, and I think Magic said he would go back to college if anyone but the Lakers drafted him.

[DaSeba5]

Its true after their run they still wont be better that the Lakers, Celtics, Spurs & Bulls

I'd be happy to be in their company (those 4 teams) no doubt, or at least close to it.

[WeGetRing2012]

Not to disprove your loyalty to the team, but I think we traded Divac for Kobe on trade day, and I think Magic said he would go back to college if anyone but the Lakers drafted him.

We still drafted Kobe it wasn't like we were trading for a proven star. We took a risk on kid coming out of high school. And even though the Hornets drafted him, Jerry West still scouted him and brought him to the Lakers.... And that is a lie about him not playing for anyone but the Lakers...

[WeGetRing2012]

I'd be happy to be in their company (those 4 teams) no doubt, or at least close to it.

:lol :lol :lol :lol

[COnDEMnED]

We still drafted Kobe it wasn't like we were trading for a proven star. We took a risk on kid coming out of high school. And even though the Hornets drafted him, Jerry West still scouted him and brought him to the Lakers.... And that is a lie about him not playing for anyone but the Lakers...
I could be wrong about the Magic thing. That was quite some time ago.

[DaSeba5]

:lol :lol :lol :lol

There's 30 teams in the NBA. Not everybody can be like the Lakers. It's hard for a Laker fan to grasp this concept it seems.

This is the best team we've ever had.

[WeGetRing2012]

I could be wrong about the Magic thing. That was quite some time ago.

It doesn't even make sense. You can't declare for the draft, choose the team you want to go to, and they say never mind if you don't go to that team. Once you declare, you are ineligible to play in college...And Kobe knew he wasn't even the top coveted player in that draft so he didn't even have that much clout at 18 yrs old. He working out with other teams too...

[KyrieTheFuture]

Shaq coming to LA was because he wanted to be in Hollywood and that's what I meant by them benefiting from being in LA. Also if LAC were the only team they'd probably have better luck.

[COnDEMnED]

It doesn't even make sense. You can't declare for the draft, choose the team you want to go to, and they say never mind if you don't go to that team. Once you declare, you are ineligible to play in college...And Kobe knew he wasn't even the top coveted player in that draft so he didn't even have that much clout at 18 yrs old. He working out with other teams too...
I was talking about when Magic Johnson was entering the draft not Kobe. But either way you're right, it doesnt sound like it makes a whole lot of sense now that you've pointed that out. I wonder why I thought that? weird

[LakersReign]

They are clowns on here who claim diehard fanship of the Lakers, and have never stepped foot in Orange County. :oldlol:


Laker 'fans' invented the term 'bandwagon'.

Thanks for continuing to admit that all you morons who CLAIMED to be "real" Cavs fans for 7 years, but never set foot in Cleveland, or even knew Cleveland had an NBA team, were really bandwagoners. Since according to your "logic" if you can even ever call it that, in order to be a "hardcore" fan of a team....you MUST be from that city or state:facepalm

Sure seemed like a good idea at the time....didn't it?:lol

[EnoughSaid]

Did someone just say the Heat are a terrible drafting team? :roll: Oh yeah, because they didn't draft one of the greatest shooting guards in the history of the league or anything... :rolleyes:

[Legends66NBA7]

Did someone just say the Heat are a terrible drafting team? Oh yeah, because they didn't draft one of the greatest shooting guards in the history of the league or anything...

Drafting one player doesn't mean you're great at drafting.

Cleveland drafted LeBron James. Doesn't mean they were some drafting geniuses out there. And Wade was supposed be drafted high that year. It's not like he was some big secret out there.

[Rainwound]

Not a Celtics fan but they're the best franchise in the NBA. And they got half their championships beating the lakers :lol

[Hank]

Did someone just say the Heat are a terrible drafting team? :roll: Oh yeah, because they didn't draft one of the greatest shooting guards in the history of the league or anything... :rolleyes:

sitting at #5 it was one of the best draft picks EVER

of course the Heat are just getting started with their beautiful legacy. Riley is a genius and brought the Heat to 3 Finals appearances in the last 7 seasons.. would have been 4 Finals appearances in the last 8 seasons if Wade didn't get injured when the Heat were up 3 games to 2 in the 2005 ECF.

what's truth is some of those years in between were sacrificed as Riley was preparing for the free agency period like a BOSS to cement Miami's dominance.

Lakers are passe, old news. The Heat are just getting started, it's our time , our era, our future, and we will be the poster team of the NBA and the NBA's most desirable destination for a very long time to come.

[CelticBaller]

Did someone just say the Heat are a terrible drafting team? :roll: Oh yeah, because they didn't draft one of the greatest shooting guards in the history of the league or anything... :rolleyes:
drafting one good player once

[ZeN]

Read the title of the thread.

Clicked the link to open the thread.

Scrolled down.

Typed this.

Didn't read.

????

Profit



Fixed.

[rmt]

You may want to tamper the boast as just 6-7 years ago LA wasn't making the playoffs or losing in the first round. This past year wasn't much to boast about either - playing 7 games to get out of the first round.

[Kews1]

I'll take your 16 Lakers & raise you 17 Celtics

[Story Up]

I'll take your 16 Lakers & raise you 17 Celtics
11 of them were in a league consisting of little competition with like 10 teams.

[Deuce Bigalow]

I'll take your 16 Lakers & raise you 17 Celtics
The Lakers have won more titles in 2009-2010 than the Celtics did the last 25 years

Enjoy those weak era banners though :cheers:

http://i33.tinypic.com/25q817l.jpg

[Story Up]

Or better, has LA ever been so irrelevant for 20 seasons? Lol
LA has had a contender every decade bra, celts never did.

[JohnnySic]

Miami is indeed LA East. They have the weather and the party scene to keep stars flocking there going forward. Fake Hollywood. That's what they want. Its all part of the world that Stern created.

[KyrieTheFuture]

If you want to take away the old celtics banners take away your Minneapolis banners.

[JohnnySic]

The Celtics were not "irrelevant for 20 years". Anyway, forget the past. They will never be irrelevant again as long as Wyc owns the team. We got the best owner, the best gm and the best coach. We will always get players.

[Nero Tulip]

The Lakers are basically irrelevant now. I expect a 2nd round exit; you won't suck but you won't be contenders.

[dannysc305]

It seems people forget to mention the Heat started out as an expansion team in '88 I believe. Their history is short. LA has been around for ages. I think the Lakers only have five rings from the Shaq and Kobe eras since the Heat's inception to the NBA. The Heat have 2... the disparity in championships isn't as big as people think. You can say 16>2 all you want but as a Heat fan I could care less about the rings you won in the seventies and 80s when it comes to this debate.

[dannysc305]

sitting at #5 it was one of the best draft picks EVER

of course the Heat are just getting started with their beautiful legacy. Riley is a genius and brought the Heat to 3 Finals appearances in the last 7 seasons.. would have been 4 Finals appearances in the last 8 seasons if Wade didn't get injured when the Heat were up 3 games to 2 in the 2005 ECF.

what's truth is some of those years in between were sacrificed as Riley was preparing for the free agency period like a BOSS to cement Miami's dominance.

Lakers are passe, old news. The Heat are just getting started, it's our time , our era, our future, and we will be the poster team of the NBA and the NBA's most desirable destination for a very long time to come.

JUST getting started :cheers:

[SMoKe0uT]

Haters gonna Hate.

[RaininTwos]

Miami can try to be LA east all they want but your nothing more than a generic clone and will NEVER come close to the greatness that is LA.

10 years from now HEATS wont be any more renowned than the Knicks or Sixers.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[senelcoolidge]

You are the epitome of why people hate the lakers and their stupid fans...damn. Great example. Now go live in your delusion.

[NewYorkNoPicks]

They are clowns on here who claim diehard fanship of the Lakers, and have never stepped foot in Orange County. :oldlol:


Laker 'fans' invented the term 'bandwagon'.

Ridiculous statement. As long as you live in the same state it's acceptable to choose any team you like in that state to follow.

[NewYorkNoPicks]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Location Toronto? Raptors are the epitome of fail.

Knicks have and always will be one of the most popular franchises in the NBA due to their ties to New York, one of the greatest cities on the planet.

[RaininTwos]

Location Toronto? Raptors are the epitome of fail.

Knicks have and always will be one of the most popular franchises in the NBA due to their ties to New York, one of the greatest cities on the planet.

The Raps are the epitome of fail but the Raps were better than the Knicks almost every year of the last decade?

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[TheMan]

The thing I like about the Lakers is that they aren't afraid of spending money. Except for most of the 90s, they have been a relevent team, not many franchises can claim that, wellthe Celtics can I guess.

[Legends66NBA7]

Knicks have and always will be one of the most popular franchises in the NBA due to their ties to New York, one of the greatest cities on the planet.

Raptors are pretty valuable to the NBA, despite having some terrible records as of late. Forbes backs that up. They are very popular as well, since an entire country, for the most part, backs it up.

And Toronto is one of the greatest cities on this planet too.

[BlueandGold]

Oh yea heard of the term "rubbing their face in it"? Should probably look it up.

[NewYorkNoPicks]

The Raps are the epitome of fail but the Raps were better than the Knicks almost every year of the last decade?

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Knicks #1 most valuable franchise according to Forbes prior to this year. Now they rank as #2 right behind the Lakers.

Small market teams and their denial is funny. Your inferiority complexes tickle me

[NewYorkNoPicks]

Raptors are pretty valuable to the NBA, despite having some terrible records as of late. Forbes backs that up. They are very popular as well, since an entire country, for the most part, backs it up.

And Toronto is one of the greatest cities on this planet too.

It's more impressive that a team from a single city can transcend state lines and extend their reach into worldwide markets rather than the 1 single team in a country having by default the support of that nation.

[Peteballa]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LsFstz6BV4E/T5y-Y5uufSI/AAAAAAAAAWU/OKsZ_XvkW3Y/s1600/TROLLS-TROLLS-EVERYWHERE.jpg

[TheMan]

Knicks #1 most valuable franchise according to Forbes prior to this year. Now they rank as #2 right behind the Lakers.

Small market teams and their denial is funny. Your inferiority complexes tickle me
Not trying to stir shit up but the Knicks have no excuses to having last won a title in the early 70s, they have the biggest TV market and should be always contending.

[RaininTwos]

Knicks #1 most valuable franchise according to Forbes prior to this year. Now they rank as #2 right behind the Lakers.

Small market teams and their denial is funny. Your inferiority complexes tickle me
:coleman: Toronto is a small market?

[Legends66NBA7]

Small market teams and their denial is funny. Your inferiority complexes tickle me

I hope that's sarcasm, as Toronto isn't a small market team. The 4th largest city amongst NBA teams is a small market ? The only team in Canada ? What hurts Toronto is moeny value to get top talent to the city and wrong views they have on the city/country.

Yes, New York is more valuable than Toronto. Toronto's ranked 12th according to Forbes and there isn't much star talent on Toronto. I can only assume if the Raptors team had a major star or two playing on the squad, they would be Top 3-5, very easily.

[NewYorkNoPicks]

I hope that's sarcasm, as Toronto isn't a small market team. The 4th largest city amongst NBA teams is a small market ? The only team in Canada ? What hurts Toronto is moeny value to get top talent to the city and wrong views they have on the city/country.

Yes, New York is more valuable than Toronto. Toronto's ranked 12th according to Forbes and there isn't much star talent on Toronto. I can only assume if the Raptors team had a major star or two playing on the squad, they would be Top 3-5, very easily.

The Knicks were still the #2 most valuable franchise when Clarence Weatherspoon was our best player...

More important market regardless of talent, end of story.

[NewYorkNoPicks]

Not trying to stir shit up but the Knicks have no excuses to having last won a title in the early 70s, they have the biggest TV market and should be always contending.

I am the biggest critic of the Knicks on the board and their mismanagement, I am not a biased poster by any means so I don't disagree with you. However the topic at hand is their importance market wise to the league, something that is indisputable.

[Legends66NBA7]

It's more impressive that a team from a single city can transcend state lines and extend their reach into worldwide markets rather than the 1 single team in a country having by default the support of that nation.

Well, the reason it became default is because the Grizzlies got moved from Vancouver to Memphis.

Either way, we have larger population and more passionate sports fan in Toronto, so we would have had more fans regardless if there was another team in Vancouver, Montreal, Edmonton, Calgary, etc...


The Knicks were still the #2 most valuable franchise when Clarence Weatherspoon was our best player...

More important market regardless of talent, end of story.

Fair enough, but I never said the Knicks sucked either or weren't valuable.

[RaininTwos]

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8027/7630838244_b1879c3f63_b.jpg

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Small Market

[NewYorkNoPicks]

Well, the reason it became default is because the Grizzlies got moved from Vancouver to Memphis.

Either way, we have larger population and more passionate sports fan in Toronto, so we would have had more fans regardless if there was another team in Vancouver, Montreal, Edmonton, Calgary, etc...



Fair enough, but I never said the Knicks sucked either or weren't valuable.

But you did say that there isn't star power on your team when speaking about the monetary value of your franchise therefore implying that stars make a dramatic impact on a teams value. My point was, the Knicks at one point had the worst roster in the entire league and still remained #2 on the Forbes list; hence, stars do not impact a teams overall value and it can not be used as an excuse for any lack of value.

[NewYorkNoPicks]

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8027/7630838244_b1879c3f63_b.jpg

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Small Market

Cool Justin Bieber avatar bruh!

[Raz]

Miami can try to be LA east all they want but your nothing more than a generic clone and will NEVER come close to the greatness that is LA.

10 years from now HEATS wont be any more renowned than the Knicks or Sixers.


Uh

[Dbrog]

In fairness, it's easy to be the "gold standard" when you get superstars handed to you. (Magic-wouldn't come out unless he could play w Kareem, Kobe-forced trade from Hornets, Shaq- signed even though his team in Orlando was better, Pau- cheese doodle trade, Kareem- forced trade to either LA or NY)

Just sayin...

[RaininTwos]

Cool Justin Bieber avatar bruh!
OMG, shots fired! :rolleyes:

Just say you were wrong and call it a day brah. It's not that hard.

[krazymofo]

ahhh shit. Thought this would be the day their wasn't any Laker threads and then stupid op goes ahead and posts this crap.

[DaSeba5]

Miami can try to be LA east all they want but your nothing more than a generic clone and will NEVER come close to the greatness that is LA.

10 years from now HEATS wont be any more renowned than the Knicks or Sixers.

Who knows where the Heat will be in 10 years? Can you see into the future?

[Legends66NBA7]

But you did say that there isn't star power on your team when speaking about the monetary value of your franchise therefore implying that stars make a dramatic impact on a teams value. My point was, the Knicks at one point had the worst roster in the entire league and still remained #2 on the Forbes list; hence, stars do not impact a teams overall value and it can not be used as an excuse for any lack of value.

You're right there, but I also said that (I believe I mentioned it in my previous post) it's because of the fact were also in Canada. Different courntry. The dollar value also being different here, the taxes being different here, etc... To me that also does play a roll in where were ranked.

[Legends66NBA7]

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8027/7630838244_b1879c3f63_b.jpg

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Small Market

My city. :applause:

I've got to go sailing over there one time (never sailed before).

[NewYorkNoPicks]

OMG, shots fired! :rolleyes:

Just say you were wrong and call it a day brah. It's not that hard.

Wrong? About what? That the Knicks are more valuable than the Raptors? They are...

And even with your point of the Raptors sneaking into the playoffs a couple of times over the past decade and in turn being more sucessful than the Knick in that same span, the Knicks were still more VALUABLE and RELEVANT.

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/mli45gmie/2-new-york-knicks/#gallerycontent

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-01-27/new-york-knicks-overtake-lakers-as-most-valuable-team-in-nba-forbes-says.html

http://www.nba.com/2009/news/12/09/team.values.ap/index.html

Take a look at 2009 when DAVID LEE was our best player; still #2 in team value

I could go on and on.

[NewYorkNoPicks]

You're right there, but I also said that (I believe I mentioned it in my previous post) it's because of the fact were also in Canada. Different courntry. The dollar value also being different here, the taxes being different here, etc... To me that also does play a roll in where were ranked.

Toronto is a short drive from Niagra Falls, NY.... its not like going from the US to Zimbabwe...not much of a culture shock 5 miles outside of upstate NY

[Blue&Orange]

And the fact that this will continue for years and years is beautiful


Good luck with that.

[Legends66NBA7]

Toronto is a short drive from Niagra Falls, NY.... its not like going from the US to Zimbabwe...not much of a culture shock 5 miles outside of upstate NY

My point still stands that it's not in the States.

Our cultures are probably not too different, yes for sure, but the money value, taxes and business economics is different... which relates more closely to the two teams were talking about than the cultures (byt the way, Toronto is often called a smaller version of New York or Chicago).

[Sarcastic]

Not trying to stir shit up but the Knicks have no excuses to having last won a title in the early 70s, they have the biggest TV market and should be always contending.

Further proof that market size has nothing to do with winning titles.

[RaininTwos]

Wrong? About what? That the Knicks are more valuable than the Raptors? They are...

And even with your point of the Raptors sneaking into the playoffs a couple of times over the past decade and in turn being more sucessful than the Knick in that same span, the Knicks were still more VALUABLE and RELEVANT.

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/mli45gmie/2-new-york-knicks/#gallerycontent

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-01-27/new-york-knicks-overtake-lakers-as-most-valuable-team-in-nba-forbes-says.html

http://www.nba.com/2009/news/12/09/team.values.ap/index.html

Take a look at 2009 when DAVID LEE was our best player; still #2 in team value

I could go on and on.

You were wrong about:

-The Raptors being a small market team
-The Raptors being the epitome of failure or whatever grandiose word you used when the raps have been better for most of the past ten years.

There is no reason for your arrogance at all. You don't even know why I laughed at the sentence I highlighted either. You just read my location and started to spew bullshit, which shows just how ignorant you can be. I know that the Knicks are valuable, I never disputed that they aren't. You seem to be forgetting that both of us are older than the team you keep putting down, give them time. The Knicks took 30+ years to win their first title but yet you make fun of the Raps for what exactly? I don't understand.

Here are some cold hard facts for you. The Knicks do not deserve to be in any conversation in terms of franchise greatness with the Sixers,Lakers or Celtics if you are basing it on legendary players, championships and great teams.

I don't want to hear anything from you about how the Raptors are the ----- of failure when your team just won their first playoff game in 12 years or how ever long it took. That's pathetic.

We can talk about market size and team value all day but who is arguing against you? No one cares about that shit. Fans care about wins and losses bruh. Win something before you go put down other cities and teams dude. Otherwise you just sound like a jackass.

Sincerely,

Your Father

[NewYorkNoPicks]

You were wrong about:

-The Raptors being a small market team
-The Raptors being the epitome of failure or whatever grandiose word you used when the raps have been better for most of the past ten years.

There is no reason for your arrogance at all. You don't even know why I laughed at the sentence I highlighted either. You just read my location and started to spew bullshit, which shows just how ignorant you can be. I know that the Knicks are valuable, I never disputed that they aren't. You seem to be forgetting that both of us are older than the team you keep putting down, give them time. The Knicks took 30+ years to win their first title but yet you make fun of the Raps for what exactly? I don't understand.

Here are some cold hard facts for you. The Knicks do not deserve to be in any conversation in terms of franchise greatness with the Sixers,Lakers,Celtics, or Heat in my opinion.

I don't want to hear anything from you about how the Raptors are the ----- of failure when your team just won their first playoff game in 12 years or how ever long it took. That's pathetic.

We can talk about market size and team value all day but who is arguing against you? No one cares about that shit. Fans care about wins and losses bruh. Win something before you go put down other cities and teams dude. Otherwise you just sound like a jackass.

Sincerely,

Your Father

The Raptors will never be more important than the New York Knicks. You guys werent even selling out every game when Carter was there.

And Jesus Christ man that Justin Bieber avatar. You are so easily a teenager, and a mindless one at that. Probably pretty soft too considering you listen to that guys music. Teenybopper stuff...really dude? "Never say neverrrrrr", why don't you goto your room, turn on your boombox and sing along to those lyrics while jumping around like a high school cheerleader at a pep rally. What a tool

[RaininTwos]

The Raptors will never be more important than the New York Knicks. You guys werent even selling out every game when Carter was there.

And Jesus Christ man that Justin Bieber avatar. You are so easily a teenager, and a mindless one at that. Probably pretty soft too considering you listen to that guys music. Teenybopper stuff...really dude? "Never say neverrrrrr", why don't you goto your room, turn on your boombox and sing along to those lyrics while jumping around like a high school cheerleader at a pep rally. What a tool
Now you've moved on to attendance. No one cares about sellouts when your team is shitty as fvck like the Knicks were for so many years. Whatever happened to wins, b?

I'm almost 22. Please stop reaching the Bieber stuff. You have a marbury avatar do I think that you wear starbury's and eat vasaline as a late night snack?

No.

Do you wanna know why?

Because I'm not a dumbass.

C'mon son.

[Heavincent]

Now you've moved on to attendance. No one cares about sellouts when your team is shitty as fvck like the Knicks were for so many years. Whatever happened to wins, b?

I'm almost 22. Please stop reaching the Bieber stuff. You have a marbury avatar do I think that you wear starbury's and eat vasaline as a late night snack?

No.

Do you wanna know why?

Because I'm not a dumbass.

C'mon son.

Do you legitimately like Justin Bieber's music?

I mean c'mon man, listen to some real music.

[RaininTwos]

Do you legitimately like Justin Bieber's music?

I mean c'mon man, listen to some real music.

What's your definition of real music? I probably already listen to it.

[NewYorkNoPicks]

Now you've moved on to attendance. No one cares about sellouts when your team is shitty as fvck like the Knicks were for so many years. Whatever happened to wins, b?

I'm almost 22. Please stop reaching the Bieber stuff. You have a marbury avatar do I think that you wear starbury's and eat vasaline as a late night snack?

No.

Do you wanna know why?

Because I'm not a dumbass.

C'mon son.

I have explained numerous times in other posts that my Marbury avatar is a represtation toward my overall feelings about the team rather than paying homage to the player himself. Knick fans would probably understand if they had lived through the Marbury era. He frequently would goto the bench and put a towel over his head realizing that the same sh!t just happens every game and he has developed a numbness, a melancholy indifference to the team.

Anyway, you do have a Bieber avatar and you probably are a fan.....very gay. Additionally, believe me I am in no way jealous of the Raptors pedigree of Vince Carter (for 6 years) and Chris Bosh... no one is.

[RaininTwos]

I have explained numerous times in other posts that my Marbury avatar is a represtation toward my overall feelings about the team rather than paying homage to the player himself. Knick fans would probably understand if they had lived through the Marbury era. He frequently would goto the bench and put a towel over his head realizing that the same sh!t just happens every game and he has developed a numbness, a melancholy indifference to the team.
That's sweet, notice how I don't care? I would rather follow your example and judge people off their avatars like an idiot.

In other words:
http://i.imgur.com/S10oF.gif


Anyway, you do have a Bieber avatar and you probably are a fan.....very gay. Additionally, believe me I am in no way jealous of the Raptors pedigree of Vince Carter (for 6 years) and Chris Bosh... no one is.

I dont know of any franchise that had a worse decade than the Knicks. Very sad era for NY basketball.

You are so interested in my sexuality though, lol.

[NewYorkNoPicks]

That's sweet, notice how I don't care? I would rather follow your example and judge people off their avatars like an idiot.

In other words:
http://i.imgur.com/S10oF.gif





You didn't read because it was probably a difficult paragraph for you to understand. Go on dictionary.com and look up some of the words I used, you might get it.

[CelticBaller]

Fvck big markets

[RaininTwos]

You didn't read because it was probably a difficult paragraph for you to understand. Go on dictionary.com and look up some of the words I used, you might get it.
:coleman:

Says the guy that calls Toronto a "small market". Child please.

Go outside and play.

[NewYorkNoPicks]

:coleman:

Says the guy that calls Toronto a "small market". Child please.

Go outside and play.

The only big markets are New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, and (who would've thought) Miami. Actually I'd throw Dallas in there as well. The rest are all small to medium sized markets. Would that make you feel better if I said your team is in a "medium market"? Sheesh you sure do have a hang up about size... hopefully thats not you projecting from experiences in your personal life.

[DirtySanchez]

Fvck big markets

Say that all you want but with out revenue sharing the League will not survive with out them.

[RaininTwos]

The only big markets are New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, and (who would've thought) Miami. Actually I'd throw Dallas in there as well. The rest are all small to medium sized markets. Would that make you feel better if I said your team is in a "medium market"? Sheesh you sure do have a hang up about size... hopefully thats not you projecting from experiences in your personal life.
You do realize that Miami/Dallas/Toronto have relatively the same population?

What an idiot. :facepalm

You've gone from questioning my sexuality to my c0ck size? Dude....you are just creepy, I've heard extremely gay shit thrown around here before and laughed but this is just weird. Who even tries to make that kind of connection? :biggums:

[NewYorkNoPicks]

You do realize that Miami/Dallas/Toronto have relatively the same population?

What an idiot. :facepalm

You've gone from questioning my sexuality to my c0ck size? Dude....you are just creepy, I've heard extremely gay shit thrown around here before and laughed but this is just weird. Who even tries to make that kind of connection? :biggums:

Psychologists. You are now deflecting rather than projecting, which you were doing before. I'm done bothering you... my point was proven.

[RaininTwos]

Dude you need help.:oldlol:

Anyone who reads your craziness will also agree.

I'm going to go get something out of life for myself while you keep making pitiful posts here. Is that a deal?

[NewYorkNoPicks]

Dude you need help.:oldlol:

Anyone who reads your craziness will also agree.

I'm going to go get something out of life for myself while you keep making pitiful posts here. Is that a deal?

There is no craziness in my posts. I'm just smarter than you, end of story.

[RaininTwos]

There is no craziness in my posts. I'm just smarter than you, end of story.
Agreed.:roll:

[ncrizzle]

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[Legends66NBA7]

Here's some trivia:

Before the Knicks won Game 4 vs Miami in last year's playoffs, their last playoff game victory was against ?

[Heavincent]

What's your definition of real music? I probably already listen to it.

That would take me too long.

Metalcore, nu-metal, modern pop, most country, dub step, and indie music is hot garbage if you ask me. I also find a lot of classic rock to be kinda boring. I'm not a big rap/hip-hop guy either, although I do like some rap.

As for what I do like, progressive metal/rock is probably my favorite genre. I also like some thrash metal, hard rock, jazz, blues, and a little bit of rap too.

Man, my taste is music is just unbelievably good.

[RaininTwos]

That would take me too long.

Metalcore, nu-metal, modern pop, most country, dub step, and indie music is hot garbage if you ask me. I also find a lot of classic rock to be kinda boring. I'm not a big rap/hip-hop guy either, although I do like some rap.

As for what I do like, progressive metal is probably my favorite genre. I also like some thrash metal, hard rock, jazz, blues, and a little bit of rap too.

Man, my taste is music is just unbelievably good.
Last sentence makes you sound like a douche, your taste in music isn't any better than anyone else's.

That said I am horrible at identifying genres, but I am all over the place when it comes to music.

I like classic rock like the Kinks, the Zombies. There are a lot of rock bands that I really like but would have no clue what subgenre they are in. I've learned a lot about rock since my teens but I'm still a novice. My favorite rock album has to be Queens of The Stone Age- Songs for the Deaf:bowdown:

I love R&B and Rap, they have been conjoined at the hip as of late but I love a lot in those two genres. All the way from Doo-Wop to rappers like Lupe going in over Dubstep beats. My favorite R&B artist is probably Miguel, at the moment, I really loved his debut album. Usher is another favorite who continually drops good records. His latest album is pretty nice.

I've been listening to Reggae music since birth, but don't really venture outside of the bigger names. Peter Tosh, Jimmy Cliff and Bob Marley are my favorites.

I like house music way more than dubstep but I am no expert on either genre, I realize a lot of the people on here are uber-condescending when discussing those two genres or any related music in my opinion.

I do love bieber's new album, I just decided to give it a fair shot. It was way better than I expected and don't understand why people continually hate on a kid when they've only heard either one or two songs from him. Some of the people I know hate him and haven't heard one god damn thing from him. I feel that if people didn't know it was him singing, and just heard the song without any reservations, they would like some of his material. It isn't bad and he should have an extremely long career ahead of him. The production on "Believe" is fantastic and he has a nice voice.

[Heavincent]

Last sentence makes you sound like a douche, your taste in music isn't any better than anyone else's.


I was kidding






kind of

[RaininTwos]

oh my bad:roll:

edit: you got me with the white text lol

[CelticBaller]

The only big markets are New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, and (who would've thought) Miami. Actually I'd throw Dallas in there as well. The rest are all small to medium sized markets. Would that make you feel better if I said your team is in a "medium market"? Sheesh you sure do have a hang up about size... hopefully thats not you projecting from experiences in your personal life.
Boston isn't a big market? :biggums:

[Legends66NBA7]

I don't want to hear anything from you about how the Raptors are the ----- of failure when your team just won their first playoff game in 12 years or how ever long it took. That's pathetic.

Want to take a shot at my trivia question ?


Here's some trivia:

Before the Knicks won Game 4 vs Miami in last year's playoffs, their last playoff game victory was against ?

Hint - It's in yor post.

:oldlol: :D

[RaininTwos]

I know their last victory before Miami was against Toronto. Back when we still had Mcgrady and I think that was the season we traded for Oak. Memory is fuzzy on that but still. That is horrific.

[Legends66NBA7]

I know their last victory before Miami was against Toronto. Back when we still had Mcgrady and I think that was the season we traded for Oak. Memory is fuzzy on that but still. That is horrific.

Nah, 2001.

I'm talking about 1 game. It had been 11 years till now, that Knicks won a single playoff game... and the last time since 2012 they won a game was against the "failures" the Toronto Raptors.

:oldlol:

[RaininTwos]

Nah, 2001.

I'm talking about 1 game. It had been 11 years till now, that Knicks won a single playoff game... and the last time since 2012 they won a game was against the "failures" the Toronto Raptors.

:oldlol:
:oldlol:

That is awful though, the raps gotta hurry up and get a playoff win before we are that bad. It's been since 08 for us. We've got seven years though, we'll get that before then, haha.

[Legends66NBA7]

:oldlol:

That is awful though, the raps gotta hurry up and get a playoff win before we are that bad. It's been since 08 for us. We've got seven years though, we'll get that before then, haha.

The Raptors haven't missed the playoffs in 5 straight years before... so hopefully we make the playoffs this year and avoid that streak.

Wouldn't mind seeing either the Cavs and (thanks to this thread) the Knicks as our first round matchup. :pimp:

[RaininTwos]

I would love to see a Knicks-Raps series. It would definitely bring me back to my youth plus I think we would have a shot. Our team is going to be so much improved if Bargnani can stay healthy, he was scoring at an elite level last year in both efficiency and points.

[Hank]

The Heat are the Champions. Current champs are always the gold standard. The Fakers are a pathetic 1 for 9 in the 2nd round.

Miami is the Gold Standard of excellence.. and will continue to be

[HYJ]

So the Thunder has 1 championship in their belt because of the 79 Supersonics? Just Asking?

[SMoKe0uT]

The Heat are the Champions. Current champs are always the gold standard. The Fakers are a pathetic 1 for 9 in the 2nd round.

Miami is the Gold Standard of excellence.. and will continue to be


LoL yokay

[Legends66NBA7]

LoL yokay

You couldn't google search this ?

:oldlol:

[SMoKe0uT]

You couldn't google search this ?

:oldlol:


didnt have to thanks to you :applause::bowdown:

[clayton]

In b4 LeBron switches team and Miami becomes irrelevant like it should be.

[DaSeba5]

In b4 LeBron switches team and Miami becomes irrelevant like it should be.

Why should it be?

[SMoKe0uT]

Why should it be?


well mabe not completley riley is a smart guy. we all know where he made his name though...LA :rockon:

[SamuraiSWISH]

Yankees of the NBA.

Deep pocket books, glamorous location, beautiful women, unlimited national exposure, a great place to be wealthy. Everything at finger tips.

The Lakers have procured so many elite talents from other smaller teams and markets, that it is actually sickening to me. It's ridiculous when given their rich history, when they aren't competitive their fans try and find a way to drag down other talents.

[DaSeba5]

well mabe not completley riley is a smart guy. we all know where he made his name though...LA :rockon:

But why should they completely? What's wrong with Miami being a relevant team?

[SMoKe0uT]

But why should they completely? What's wrong with Miami being a relevant team?

Hey i didnt say they should be completley dont look at me. i didnt say it.

[DaSeba5]

Hey i didnt say they should be completley dont look at me. i didnt say it.

Fair enough

[PieceOfFelt]

Lakers are the Yankees of the NBA. Complete and utter dominance with once in a life time talent.

- Felt

[diamenz]

the lakers are the yankees of the nba - they're nothing but a stacked organization built off of money. and to ultimately shit on themselves, they may not even make the playoffs.

edit: wow, apparently multiple people beat to to it, lol.

[RagaZ]

But why should they completely? What's wrong with Miami being a relevant team?
They dont have the history and traditions like other teams.

[deja vu]

Lakers are like Manchester United, they are the most dominant franchise in recent history. Celtics are like Liverpool, they won many titles but those were in the past. :lol Heat are like Manchester City, they accumulate superstars and have seen success just only recently. Hehe..sorry about that football/soccer haters.

Anyway, it's stupid to compare an ages-old franchise to one that was established 23 years ago or so.

[LEFT4DEAD]

So Lakers' fans mad because Heat are doing the same thing that Lakers have been doing since beginning: building a stacked team with 2 superstars.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Grey Dawn]

OP = insecure moron

[Grey Dawn]

Lakers are like Manchester United, they are the most dominant franchise in recent history. Celtics are like Liverpool, they won many titles but those were in the past. :lol Heat are like Manchester City, they accumulate superstars and have seen success just only recently. Hehe..sorry about that football/soccer haters.

Anyway, it's stupid to compare an ages-old franchise to one that was established 23 years ago or so.

Ummmmmmmm,..........

Except that the Spurs are the most dominant franchise of recent history. Go look it up ****tard.

[Nick Young]

who said we were LA East ?? you just coined that phrase & lmao shows how insecure you are !!!:roll: :roll:


F*ck the La Fakers. We are better.. and in thee next 10 years and beyond, will be better

ps- I laugh when Faker fans try to pump their chests when they include championships their city didn't even win. Yes, your insecurity is adorable :lol

We?

Where you from sport?

[deja vu]

Ummmmmmmm,..........

Except that the Spurs are the most dominant franchise of recent history. Go look it up ****tard.
Lakers won 5 titles in the post-Jordan era while Spurs won 4. Last title for Lakers was in 2010 while the Spurs was in 2007. :D

[BlackWhiteGreen]

Lakers are like Manchester United, they are the most dominant franchise in recent history. Celtics are like Liverpool, they won many titles but those were in the past. :lol Heat are like Manchester City, they accumulate superstars and have seen success just only recently. Hehe..sorry about that football/soccer haters.

Anyway, it's stupid to compare an ages-old franchise to one that was established 23 years ago or so.

I take offence to being considered anything close to a Liverpool fan. Worst fan base in football...

[Scholar]

The OP embarrasses me as a Lakers fan. :facepalm

[LAClipsFan33]

Laker fans = Always bringin up old sh!t

[shaq2000]

Laker fans = Always bringin up old sh!t

You're attracted to fat chicks though.

[SMoKe0uT]

Laker fans = Always bringin up old sh!t


Truth hurts for clippers fans.

[LAClipsFan33]

You're attracted to fat chicks though.

And your a fakkit

[LAClipsFan33]

Truth hurts for clippers fans.

2012-2013 (4-0)

[Dr.atkins]

OP your making it real hard to sympathize with the Lakers this season. Don't understand why you would want to attack a team that's up while your own team is struggling. The timing of this post is so retarded and just comes off as desperate. If you really feel this way that's great, but honestly reading a thread like this comes off as you trying to convince yourself more then anything else.

[SMoKe0uT]

OP your making it real hard to sympathize with the Lakers this season. Don't understand why you would want to attack a team that's up while your own team is struggling. The timing of this post is so retarded and just comes off as desperate. If you really feel this way that's great, but honestly reading a thread like this comes off as you trying to convince yourself more then anything else.


LoL ok there doc. i posted this in July of 12.

[SMoKe0uT]

2012-2013 (4-0)


and still 0 rings:lol

[LAClipsFan33]

and still 0 rings:lol

Again the past

[retaxis]

Love how particular fans think that club achievements = personal achievements :lol :lol

[WWRWestbrookDo?]

Miami can try to be LA east all they want but your nothing more than a generic clone and will NEVER come close to the greatness that is LA.

10 years from now HEATS wont be any more renowned than the Knicks or Sixers.

they are the NBA's team. Gift wrapped games with bs foul calls.

[SMoKe0uT]

Again the past
what the hell is the past about walking in to staples lookin at 16 larry obriens none of which belong to the clippers. Lol idiot.

[2010splash]

Who cares about their tradition/history? We live for the present. And currently the Lakers are a laughing stock while the Heat are an unbeatable dynasty in the making.

[SMoKe0uT]

Who cares about their tradition/history? We live for the present. And currently the Lakers are a laughing stock while the Heat are an unbeatable dynasty in the making.
Lol 2 rings pathetic

[alleykat]

ahahh i didn't see this thread before....dang i missed my chance to mess with it.....

boston got 17..just saying

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