Who's more stacked: Miami or LA?

[The Real JW]

Going into the 12/13 season, which team's roster would you say is more stacked?

Heat

Top 1 SF (LeBron, age 27)
Top 2 SG (Wade, age 30)
Top 5 PF (Bosh, age 28)
Top 10 SG (Allen, age 37)

Lakers

Top 1 SG (Kobe, age 33)
Top 2 C (Bynum, age 24)
Top 5 PF (Gasol, age 32)
Top 7 PG (Nash, age 38)

I say the Heat because they're more in their primes.

[PickernRoller]

Trying to find the obvious in obvious.

[clipps]

Heat are younger with a better bench. I hate both teams. A Lakers/Heat match up in the finals would be beyond terrible.

[Clippersfan86]

Stacked meaning depth from top to bottom? Obviously Miami, not even a question. Starting lineup only? Lakers have a small edge.

[The Real JW]

What if LA does end up landing Dwight?

Heat

Top 1 SF (LeBron, age 27)
Top 2 SG (Wade, age 30)
Top 5 PF (Bosh, age 28)
Top 10 SG (Allen, age 37)

Lakers

Top 1 SG (Kobe, age 33)
Top 1 C (Dwight, age 26)
Top 5 PF (Gasol, age 32)
Top 7 PG (Nash, age 38)

Closer, no?

[ripthekik]

Would be nice if you also add a "Seasons played" next to their names

[Story Up]

Stacked meaning depth from top to bottom? Obviously Miami, not even a question. Starting lineup only? Lakers have a small edge.
Yep

[JohnnySic]

Both rosters fall off a cliff after the top 3-4 or so.

[scm5]

Stacked meaning depth from top to bottom? Obviously Miami, not even a question. Starting lineup only? Lakers have a small edge.

Sadly, this.

Even with Jamison's signing and Hill rejoining the Lakers, the amount of depth the Heat have is ridiculous.

I hope there is some way, some how, the Lakers get someone like Brandon Rush.

[All Net]

What if LA does end up landing Dwight?

Heat

Top 1 SF (LeBron, age 27)
Top 2 SG (Wade, age 30)
Top 5 PF (Bosh, age 28)
Top 10 SG (Allen, age 37)

Lakers

Top 1 SG (Kobe, age 33)
Top 1 C (Dwight, age 26)
Top 5 PF (Gasol, age 32)
Top 7 PG (Nash, age 38)

Closer, no?

Certainly closer yes

[All Net]

Both rosters fall off a cliff after the top 3-4 or so.

Well who doesn't?

[Nash]

Thing is that if Lakers lose one of their players they could still be very, very competetive. If they lose Gasol they'll still have the Nash+Dwight/Bynum connection while Kobe would be doing his thing. If Miami lose Bosh, Miami as we all saw are fecked.

Miami better, Lakers more top heavy with 2 quality players in back court and 2 in front court.

[JohnnySic]

Miami has more star power but LA has better balance.

[b1imtf]

"Top 1" is a pretty stupid expression lol

[All Net]

Thing is that if Lakers lose one of their players they could still be very, very competetive. If they lose Gasol they'll still have the Nash+Dwight/Bynum connection while Kobe would be doing his thing. If Miami lose Bosh, Miami as we all saw are fecked.

Miami better, Lakers more top heavy with 2 quality players in back court and 2 in front court.

Dunno Miami made the CF and were 2-2 vs Boston without bosh right? Not completely screwed. More so now with ray Allen there.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Thing is that if Lakers lose one of their players they could still be very, very competetive. If they lose Gasol they'll still have the Nash+Dwight/Bynum connection while Kobe would be doing his thing. If Miami lose Bosh, Miami as we all saw are fecked.

Miami better, Lakers more top heavy with 2 quality players in back court and 2 in front court.
fck outta here with that nonsense. if the heat lose bosh or lebron, it's a wrap.

[wagexslave]

Lakers aren't winning sh*t this year. Maybe if their players weren't so old, but they are. I think a lot of Lakers fans will be disappointed with how the season goes after all of this ridiculous hype.

[Nash]

Dunno Miami made the CF and were 2-2 vs Boston without bosh right? Not completely screwed. More so now with ray Allen there.
Miami have no front court at all without Bosh. Lakers have 2 stars in the back court and 2 in the front court.

[DirtySanchez]

A better argument would be who is more stacked female wise....

LA women vs. Miami women

The best thing about this arguments is at the end of the day we all win!!!

[All Net]

Miami have no front court at all without Bosh. Lakers have 2 stars in the back court and 2 in the front court.

You mean lakers vs heat purely? Ok agreed. Thought you meant in general.

[DirtySanchez]

Miami has the best player but LA has the better balanced team. It would make a good series can go either way.

[Da KO King]

Ray Allen is still viewed as a top 10 SG? That seems like a bit of a stretch at this point

[G-Funk]

Lakers aren't winning sh*t this year. Maybe if their players weren't so old, but they are. I think a lot of Lakers fans will be disappointed with how the season goes after all of this ridiculous hype.
Salty

[Apogee]

A better argument would be who is more stacked female wise....

LA women vs. Miami women

The best thing about this arguments is at the end of the day we all win!!!


Miami women hands down :bowdown:
Our Heat girls have been dominating

[takai]

The Heat right now are much more stacked than the Lakers.

[Hank]

Bosh > Gasol
Wade > Kobe the stringbean
Allen = Nash for what both will bring to their team

and then the Heat have Lebron and Lebron > entire lakers team

Wade with a bad foot and Bosh out in the meeting in LA had no effect. Here's what happens when both teams are healthy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kewlshHOqs

the old Fakers get blown out of the building against the far better team.. but it will only happen in the regular season as OKC and Spurs >>> LA Fakers

[TheeBeast]

Bosh > Gasol :oldlol:
Wade > Kobe the stringbean :roll:
Allen = Nash for what both will bring to their team :roll:


1.Gasol is still better than Bosh, for now.
2.Kobe is and always has been better than Wade
3.Nash will be the offensive distributor, way more important than what Allan brings

[It's A VC3!!!]

This same Miami Heat team won the NBA championship and added two perennial sharp shooters. This same LAL team lost 4-1 in the second round and added one player who will be 39 next season and still lose to OKC.
Wow, I'm faced with a very difficult choice. No I'm not. This is like asking me do I want peporoni pizza or pizza with fish, mustard and honey as my toppings.:lol
Seriously though LAL always gets overly overrated. Every new addition and people say that "this one is the missing piece" you have to figure that the result of the thunder- LAL series was 4-1, OKC. Nash isn't going to win them 3 more games.
Just being a realist. I'm not blinded by the Hollywood lights.

[DaSeba5]

Miami of course.

[swi7ch]

Ray Allen and Rashard Lewis put the Heat in the "Just-Utterly-Ridiculous-There's-No-Way-We're-Losing-The-Title" lineup.

[Doctor Rivers]

Ray Allen and Rashard Lewis put the Heat in the "Just-Utterly-Ridiculous-There's-No-Way-We're-Losing-The-Title" lineup.

lol

[EnoughSaid]

I'm assuming stacked = better? Then this shouldn't even be a conversation. If Wade and Bosh were healthy throughout the Playoffs, they would have cruised through like they were supposed to.

[Hank]

LA Fakers a pathetic 1 for 9 in the 2nd round of the last 2 playoffs getting punked.

The Heat with 2 straight Finals appearances and defending NBA champions beating OKC in 5 who wasted the Fakers

The Fakers are between 2 to 3 levels below Miami. LA can't even beat the Spurs or OKC in a 7-game series. Their fans won't see Miami because LA will be 2nd round fodder again next year

lol at trying to compare the 2 teams. It's not close and Faker fans know it.

Miami >>> LA

[Doctor Rivers]

:mad: :cry: :mad: :cry:

lol at you being so angry :lol :oldlol: :roll:

[Dengness9]

[QUOTE=Hank]LA Fakers a pathetic 1 for 9 in the 2nd round of the last 2 playoffs getting punked.

The Heat with 2 straight Finals appearances and defending NBA champions beating OKC in 5 who wasted the Fakers

The Fakers are between 2 to 3 levels below Miami. LA can't even beat the Spurs or OKC in a 7-game series. Their fans won't see Miami because LA will be 2nd round fodder again next year

lol at trying to compare the 2 teams. It's not close and Faker fans know it.

Miami >>> LA
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/z%20Funny%20NBA%20Photos/0%20Players/Lebron%20James/0%20bandwagoners%20heat007/heat007-family-horizontal-fixed.jpg

Which one your bitch ass children told you to type this??? *****.

[LikeABosh]

The Heat because they also have solid role players like Chalmers, Rashard Lewis, battier, Haslem

[Nick Young]

the team with 2 MVPs

[DaSeba5]

the team with 2 MVPs

Yea Wade and LeBron. The two men with Finals MVPs.

[Eat Like A Bosh]

It's Miami still. We'll see if the Lakers get Howard, if they do, then talk.

[Xiao Yao You]

Miami

[Bandito]

A better argument would be who is more stacked female wise....

LA women vs. Miami women

The best thing about this arguments is at the end of the day we all win!!!
:rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

[Kiddlovesnets]

What if LA does end up landing Dwight?

Heat

Top 1 SF (LeBron, age 27)
Top 2 SG (Wade, age 30)
Top 5 PF (Bosh, age 28)
Top 10 SG (Allen, age 37)

Lakers

Top 1 SG (Kobe, age 33)
Top 1 C (Dwight, age 26)
Top 5 PF (Gasol, age 32)
Top 7 PG (Nash, age 38)

Closer, no?

Kobe is not best SG anymore, hes old and washed up...
:no:

[amfirst]

Miami, the guys are in their prime and have the best shooters, bench, and defenders in the NBA.

[Bigsmoke]

Thing is that if Lakers lose one of their players they could still be very, very competetive. If they lose Gasol they'll still have the Nash+Dwight/Bynum connection while Kobe would be doing his thing. If Miami lose Bosh, Miami as we all saw are fecked.

Miami better, Lakers more top heavy with 2 quality players in back court and 2 in front court.

actually with the Ray Allen addition, i think the Heat are nearly as good without Wade now.

Ray Allen will be a G.O.A.T. floor spacer for Lebron and Bosh

[The Real JW]

Kobe is not best SG anymore, hes old and washed up...
:no:

In what regards? It wasn't his top season, but I wouldn't call 27.9/5.4/4.6/1.2 at 33 years old being washed up at all. Wade put up 22.1/4.8/4.6/1.7 at 30 years old this year. Which SG in the NBA had a better 11/12 season?

[swag2011]

[QUOTE=Hank]LA Fakers a pathetic 1 for 9 in the 2nd round of the last 2 playoffs getting punked.

The Heat with 2 straight Finals appearances and defending NBA champions beating OKC in 5 who wasted the Fakers

The Fakers are between 2 to 3 levels below Miami. LA can't even beat the Spurs or OKC in a 7-game series. Their fans won't see Miami because LA will be 2nd round fodder again next year

lol at trying to compare the 2 teams. It's not close and Faker fans know it.

Miami >>> LA
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/z%20Funny%20NBA%20Photos/0%20Players/Lebron%20James/0%20bandwagoners%20heat007/heat007-family-horizontal-fixed.jpg

Which one your bitch ass children told you to type this??? *****.

LMAO is that really Hank's ho ass? ugly f*ck

[Carbine]

Miami now, Lakers when Dwight gets there.

[Dictator]

La would have raped miami if they would have made it to the finals. LA win 4-1. This years lakers will make it even worse.

[REACTION]

Miami now, Lakers if Dwight gets there.

This. But fixed a little bit.

[DaSeba5]

La would have raped miami if they would have made it to the finals. LA win 4-1. This years lakers will make it even worse.

Is that why they are 3-1 against LA? Only loss being without Bosh.

[Funnyfuka]

let's see how nash gel with his new teammates first...lakers have been stacked in the past (payton/malone era) yet they didnt win shit and didnt mix well together. let s see how he fits in. Also brown is still not pjax caliber...

[ClutchOver9000]

lol at "Top 1"...

btw the answer is the Heat.

[FindingTim]

stacked? LA, for sure. better? I still got Miami.

[GoldenKnight]

I will give the edge to the Lakers, apart from the players mentioned, the Lakers have Jamison (a 17/6) guy coming off the bench to provide more offense.

Lakers have the better team in my opinion.

LAKERS:

Nash/Kobe/Metta/Pau/Bynum

BENCH: Blake/Jamison/Hill

HEAT:

Chalmers/Wade/LeBron/Bosh/Anthony

BENCH: Allen/Lewis/Haslem

[Story Up]

Wow your fam is fugly. I thot you were a 12 year old kid, not a grown ass man. Based on those revelations, your family is prolly stupid as **** too. Don't post anymore, you got no credibility, wack ass bandwagon heat fan.

[Quickening]

People are overrating the fck out of Kobe, inefficient shotjacker who will cause the Lakers to exit playoffs early, again.:lol :roll: :applause:

[Jacks3]

Just like he did in 2000 and 2001 and 2002 and 2009 and 2010.

Oh wait.

:pimp:

[DaSeba5]

I will give the edge to the Lakers, apart from the players mentioned, the Lakers have Jamison (a 17/6) guy coming off the bench to provide more offense.

Lakers have the better team in my opinion.

LAKERS:

Nash/Kobe/Metta/Pau/Bynum

BENCH: Blake/Jamison/Hill

HEAT:

Chalmers/Wade/LeBron/Bosh/Anthony

BENCH: Allen/Lewis/Haslem

The Lakers have a better starting line-up, but their bench isn't good. Miami is the better team.

[Story Up]

Heat are easily deeper, but LA has a stronger starting 5. With Dwight and Rich (if they get them), LA will be better overall, have an almost equal bench (Rich, Jamison, Hill, Blake), stronger starting 5 and a far more balanced team (inside game + perimeter game). I would love for LA to grab Rush for MMLE and maybe Nate for min. That would be maybe the greatest single season additions in recent memory.

Howard, Nash, Richardson, Jamison, Rush, Nate and only loss Drew.
A++++ if Mitch gets it done. He already has an A in my book tho.

[Story Up]

The Lakers have a better starting line-up, but their bench isn't good. Miami is the better team.
I think Nash will make guys like Ebanks and Goudelock better, he made scrubs in Phoenix respectful. He is still at least the 2nd best facilitator in the league. If those two do produce, with Hill, Jamison and Blake plus McRoberts and Morris (who is doing good in SL) our bench isn't terrible. It can be pretty decent all because of Nash, middle of the pack good. Still no where near Miami's bench tho, which is like top 5 easy.

[DaSeba5]

I think Nash will make guys like Ebanks and Goudelock better, he made scrubs in Phoenix respectful. He is still at least the 2nd best facilitator in the league. If those two do produce, with Hill, Jamison and Blake plus McRoberts and Morris (who is doing good in SL) our bench isn't terrible. It can be pretty decent all because of Nash, middle of the pack good. Still no where near Miami's bench tho, which is like top 5 easy.

What are they going to do when Nash needs a rest? Is Kobe and Nash going to be healthy come playoff time? Is Brown going to let Kobe and Nash run the team? Is Bynum going to mature if they don't get Howard? Is Gasol still going to be passive and play soft again? How is their bench going to perform when the older players need rest?

This LA team has questions to me. I see them as a contender, but they can't win a championship IMO unless they get Howard.

[Story Up]

What are they going to do when Nash needs a rest? Is Kobe and Nash going to be healthy come playoff time? Is Brown going to let Kobe and Nash run the team? Is Bynum going to mature if they don't get Howard? Is Gasol still going to be passive and play soft again? How is their bench going to perform when the older players need rest?

The LA team has questions to me. I see them as a contender, but they can't win a championship IMO unless they get Howard.

Every team with new players have questions, our 4 stars didn't miss more then 15 games combined last year so I don't know why people are so concerned with health. MB needs to do a good job tracking the minutes tho.

We shall see, Heat fans are holding their breathe tho, hoping for the best.

[DaSeba5]

Every team with new players have questions, our 4 stars didn't miss more then 15 games combined last year so I don't know why people are so concerned with health. MB needs to do a good job tracking the minutes tho.

We shall see, Heat fans are holding their breathe tho, hoping for the best.

Because with old players you never know. Phoenix has a magic medical staff; Nash isn't with them anymore.

Regardless, I'm not holding my breath at all. The Heat do a good job against the Laker's size advantage considering they are 3-1 against LA with the only loss being without Bosh. If they get Howard then yeah they should be favorites to win it all.

[Story Up]

Ok, keep feeling confidant. Keep thinking Nash won't make our other star's job easier and thus making our bigs more effective. Last year LA's biggest problem was ball movement, their half-court sets were very inefficient, with Nash due to pick n roll and pick n pop, it will be a lot deadlier. Our overall team defense was good last year and our rebounding is at the top of the league.

[DaSeba5]

Ok, keep feeling confidant. Keep thinking Nash won't make our other star's job easier and thus making our bigs more effective. Last year LA's biggest problem was ball movement, their half-court sets were very inefficient, with Nash due to pick n roll and pick n pop, it will be a lot deadlier. Our overall team defense was good last year and our rebounding is at the top of the league.

I'm sure it will. So you think LA is better than Miami and would beat them in a series without Howard?

I don't see how I'm being arrogant. I think LA is a contender right now, but I'm not sure they'll be a championship team unless they get Howard. I don't see them getting past OKC right now.

[Story Up]

I hate Heat fans on this forum bro, I can't think of one good poster on here. You? I like, you're a good guy and good poster who is respectful and has good insight. Keep it up.

I think Miami are clear favorites but you never know how good LA can be with Nash, I think they have a shot but it will be tough. Also, heat have injury woes too. Wade is injury riddled and Bosh missed some games last tear plus Lewis and Allen are as old as Nash almost. Yet every heat fan seems to forget that. IMO, Heat's run wasn't impressive. They had an easy road and OKC was far worse then they were versus LA.

[DaSeba5]

I hate Heat fans on this forum bro, I can't think of one good poster on here. You? I like, you're a good guy and good poster who is respectful and has good insight. Keep it up.

I think Miami are clear favorites but you never know how good LA can be with Nash, I think they have a shot but it will be tough. Also, heat have injury woes too. Wade is injury riddled and Bosh missed some games last tear plus Lewis and Allen are as old as Nash almost. Yet every heat fan seems to forget that. IMO, Heat's run wasn't impressive. They had an easy road and OKC was far worse then they were versus LA.

Thanks bro. The problem is that people generalize all Heat fans to be like Hank and assume we're all bandwagon/front runners/arrogant fans. I can see why since there aren't a lot real Heat fans on here. Most of them are LeBron stans.

Anyways, you're right. We don't know how good they'll be. They could be really good or it might not work at all. We're just speculating at this point.

As for the Heat, I definitely know that Wade is injury prone and that injuries can happen at anytime. Injuries can happen to anyone. We lost Miller and Haslem for the entire year in 2011. Last year, Wade had his knee drained several times, Bosh had an abdominal strain, and Miller... well I don't even know how he can still walk. It only takes 1 injury to change a whole season like with Rose and the Bulls. I definitely agree.

Allen and Lewis could get hurt too, but they are on the bench and aren't going to get as much minutes as Kobe and Nash.

As for our run, I wouldn't say easy. The Knicks were easy. The Pacers gave us hell. LeBron and Wade played like Superman and Batman in order to beat them. The Celtics took us to a 7 game series. Then OKC was too young and inexperienced, and kind of exposed to be a 2 man team in the Finals. Still, every game was close and came down to the last couple of possessions. It's not necessarily the Heat's run that was impressive; it was more of LeBron's performance that was. Wade was hurt the entire postseason and Bosh was out for the Pacers and most of the Celtic series, so LeBron had to carry the team.

Regardless if it was impressive or not, it doesn't matter how you get there. All that matters is that you're there.

[DaSeba5]

All it takes is one injury to Westbrook or Durant to make LA the favorites to win the west.

[Story Up]

Yes, Heat are the defending champions, so I give them their dues. They are my #1 team for next season, I do think with Nash and Jamison LA are #1 in the west. I personally think OKC are overrated. LA lost that series, they blew two nice leads in 2 minutes. It could have easily went to 7, or LA winning in 6. But the half court offense was terrible, it was Kobe trying to do everything himself, that's where Nash would come in. Now late in games you have 4 options instead of 1. That's the biggest improvement we have with Nash. People are really underrating this signing, with Dwight LA becomes #1 without question but even with Drew they could still pull it off. If Drew matures and Bash produces like I'm envisioning, people aren't really grasping just how perfect these four players are for each other, of course Kobe has to play a lot more off the ball and only create shots for himself and others when Nash is on the bench.

I think Nash and Kobe really want a ring, and will work together nicely to get there.

[DaSeba5]

Yes, Heat are the defending champions, so I give them their dues. They are my #1 team for next season, I do think with Nash and Jamison LA are #1 in the west. I personally think OKC are overrated. LA lost that series, they blew two nice leads in 2 minutes. It could have easily went to 7, or LA winning in 6. But the half court offense was terrible, it was Kobe trying to do everything himself, that's where Nash would come in. Now late in games you have 4 options instead of 1. That's the biggest improvement we have with Nash. People are really underrating this signing, with Dwight LA becomes #1 without question but even with Drew they could still pull it off. If Drew matures and Bash produces like I'm envisioning, people aren't really grasping just how perfect these four players are for each other, of course Kobe has to play a lot more off the ball and only create shots for himself and others when Nash is on the bench.

I think Nash and Kobe really want a ring, and will work together nicely to get there.

They might be the best team in the west. Who knows? I'm interested to see how Nash does.

Good talk bro. I'm calling it a night. :cheers:

[Story Up]

All it takes is one injury to Westbrook or Durant to make LA the favorites to win the west.
Ah westbrook is inconsistent and Harden was garbage in the finals, they're good but not that good. I think ppl overrate then too much. LA couldn't execute two games, they had 6-7 point lead with couple minutes left and blew both games. That's bad, bc it would have given them a 3-1 lead in the series going back to OKC.

That series was A LOT closer then ppl think, just like the finals was a lot closer then ppl think. OKC blew games like LA did against Miami and it cost them dearly. Again Indiana and Boston gave Miami problems but neither teams ate better then OKC, ppl value the final scores too much and not analyzing the context enough.

Miami
La
OKC
Boston
Spurs
Clippers
Pacers
Nets
Knicks

Are the too teams in order, IMO.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Miami. But if Lakers get D12 then them.

[INDI]

Yea Wade and LeBron. The two men with Finals MVPs.

Kobe got as many fmvp's as they do combined

[#1SportsFan86]

The Heat are real deep...I'm glad there in the East.:applause: