Alexey Shved..Can someone tell me about this player?

[waseem780]

is Alexey Shved a legit NBA player at best how good is he and right now how good is he? whats the wolves plans for him? will he develop under kirilenko (russians).. AND gimme a solid NBA player comparision with him please.

[KGMN]

Shooting guard who can also play the point, and at times can also play small forward. He's a skilled playmaker, and an above-average shooter. Defense is questionable, but not atrocious.

[waseem780]

Shooting guard who can also play the point, and at times can also play small forward. He's a skilled playmaker, and an above-average shooter. Defense is questionable, but not atrocious.

thanks , who in your opinion is the nba player he is most like? (ive heard ginobili)

[ncrizzle]

Hes got a very short wingspan

[chips93]

ive heard people question his character

[Owl]

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Alexey-Shved-1097/
I would do a cliff notes version but can't be bothered so here's some full-on plaigarism
[QUOTE=Draftexpress Circa 2010]Russian guard Alexey Shved has been on the NBA draft radar for what seems like forever now, but he is still quite an obscure prospect compared to his American counterparts.

While Shved

[KGMN]

thanks , who in your opinion is the nba player he is most like? (ive heard ginobili)

I'm trying to think of a close comparison, but I can't. Ginobili doesn't sound quite right - he's not as good of a finisher or defender.

EDIT: ^ Goran Dragic ^ seems like a decent comparison.

[Fiba basketball]

He was top 5 sg in Europe last season and has potentional to be best European sg in coming years so I think it's safe to say he can be an all star when he reaches his prime . I read somewhere that his carere 3 point shooting % in EL is 50% so that tells you he is very good shooter . He's also athletic and a flashy dunker , his passing is good and his defense is avrage or below avrage . I dont't watch NBA a lot and when I do I only watch 4 or 5 teams so I can't tell you for sure what NBA player is his best comparison but from players I watched it would be Terry .

[JellyBean]

thanks , who in your opinion is the nba player he is most like? (ive heard ginobili)

Yeah I saw that that to. Ginobili is nice, as much as I hate the Spurs. I gotta give props where props are due. I had to look at youtube to see who (Alexey) is this dude was. Youtube makes tuna noodle casserole look like a fine food item. But he has some game.

[stallionaire]

He was top 5 sg in Europe last season and has potentional to be best European sg in coming years so I think it's safe to say he can be an all star when he reaches his prime . I read somewhere that his carere 3 point shooting % in EL is 50% so that tells you he is very good shooter . He's also athletic and a flashy dunker , his passing is good and his defense is avrage or below avrage . I dont't watch NBA a lot and when I do I only watch 4 or 5 teams so I can't tell you for sure what NBA player is his best comparison but from players I watched it would be Terry .

:pimp: :rockon: :rockon:

[steve]

I'm trying to think of a close comparison, but I can't. Ginobili doesn't sound quite right - he's not as good of a finisher or defender.

His numbers aren't that far off of Ginobili's at a similar age. Although part of his defensive and finishing troubles could be due to his slight frame.

Still, the Wolves are doing a good job of surrounding guys who can shoot and play well off Love and Rubio. And kind of an unorthodox unit too.

[ralph_i_el]

ginobili minus strength is a best case scenario

[KGMN]

His numbers aren't that far off of Ginobili's at a similar age. Although part of his defensive and finishing troubles could be due to his slight frame.

Still, the Wolves are doing a good job of surrounding guys who can shoot and play well off Love and Rubio. And kind of an unorthodox unit too.

Perhaps. My "scouting report" on him was based on three to five games that I saw him play and games that I saw a while back.

[Grinder]

Wrote this about him a while back:

http://nba247365.com/?p=5002

2. Alexey Shved – Russia – CSKA Moscow (Point Guard/Shooting Guard):
Going surprisingly undrafted in the 2010 draft may have worked to Shved’s benefit. Should the lanky Russian combo decide to come over to the NBA, he won’t be tied down to one team and end up in an unfavorable situation. Shved enjoys good height for both guard spots at around 6’6″ and has the kind of elite athleticism that’s not often found in European guards.

Possessing a quick first step, great handles, and a good jumper, Shved’s game is reminiscent of Jamal Crawford. Despite his lack of strength, he’s not afraid to take it into the paint and finish among the trees or throw in a nice floater in the lane. While generally looking for his shot first, Shved has good court vision and consistently makes the right pass. Defense is the most glaring weakness in Shved’s game, where his lack of strength makes him vulnerable to being posted up and hurts him when he tries to fight through screens.

[Phenith]

Shooting guard who can also play the point, and at times can also play small forward. He's a skilled playmaker, and an above-average shooter. Defense is questionable, but not atrocious.

Reading that made me think of Marco Jaric

[Euroleague]

Ignore anything said by anyone that says he can play point guard.

Any team that uses him as a point guard is nuts.

BTW, good NBA comparison is Brent Barry, with a low basketball IQ.

And he's not as good as any of the players idiots in this thread are comparing him to.

[I.Malcolm]

Why do white guys only get compared to other white players?

[KGMN]

Ignore anything said by anyone that says he can play point guard.

Any team that uses him as a point guard is nuts.

BTW, good NBA comparison is Brent Barry, with a low basketball IQ.

And he's not as good as any of the players idiots in this thread are comparing him to.

Euroleague, with all due respect, I disagree. His passing ability is great, and his ball handling is pretty decent as well. He might be a little tall and too slow on defense against the quicker point guards in the NBA, but I see no reason as to why he can't play at least some minutes at PG.

Care to explain your opinion?


Reading that made me think of Marco Jaric
Oh, Marko! Good times, good times.

[Euroleague]

Euroleague, with all due respect, I disagree. His passing ability is great, and his ball handling is pretty decent as well. He might be a little tall and too slow on defense against the quicker point guards in the NBA, but I see no reason as to why he can't play at least some minutes at PG.

Care to explain your opinion?


Oh, Marko! Good times, good times.

What a shock that you disagree.

You are the same guy that "disagreed" that Rubio can't shoot, can't create his own shot, can't finish, etc.

Same guy that "disagreed" that Pekovic was stronger than any center in the NBA and could have his way in the lost post, etc.

I'm not even going to dignify you with a response about Shved, because you are a know it all and a condescending jerk.

[KGMN]

What a shock that you disagree.

You are the same guy that "disagreed" that Rubio can't shoot, can't create his own shot, can't finish, etc.

Same guy that "disagreed" that Pekovic was stronger than any center in the NBA and could have his way in the lost post, etc.

I'm not even going to dignify you with a response about Shved, because you are a know it all and a condescending jerk.

What do you know, you were right about those two statements (so far - I'm still hoping Ricky will develop his shot, but I'm pleased with how he's played anyway). Good job. :applause:
I'm just trying to learn more about Shved as I've only seen a couple of his games.

[sick_brah07]

i think alexey is great but will struggle in the nba due to being a liability on defense for one and two really short wingspan is going to make it a hard adjustment to the nba game

[Euroleague]

What do you know, you were right about those two statements (so far - I'm still hoping Ricky will develop his shot, but I'm pleased with how he's played anyway). Good job. :applause:
I'm just trying to learn more about Shved as I've only seen a couple of his games.

Then stop acting like an expert on him and arguing just for the sake of arguing.

NBA only fans are impossible to talk to because they don't deal in reality.

News flash, Shved is not a point guard, not by a long stretch.

The reason he can't be used as a point guard is because he has an exceptionally low basketball IQ and because he is looking for his own shot about 90% of the time he touches the ball.

It would basically be like arguing that Kobe is a point guard. Sure, Kobe can handle the ball, bring it up court, run the offense, etc. Does that mean he is a point guard?

Shved is at Kobe levels in terms of how often he is going to look for his own shot. The difference is that Shved's basketball IQ is way lower than Kobe's.

Shved had the lowest basketball IQ of any guard in Euroleague, along with Sergio Llull.

I hope the Wolves do play him at PG actually, just for the comedy of it.

[sick_brah07]

Ignore anything said by anyone that says he can play point guard.

Any team that uses him as a point guard is nuts.

BTW, good NBA comparison is Brent Barry, with a low basketball IQ.

And he's not as good as any of the players idiots in this thread are comparing him to.

wow i actually fully agree with euroleague here... the guy has no chance at the point in the nba

[Euroleague]

i think alexey is great but will struggle in the nba due to being a liability on defense for one and two really short wingspan is going to make it a hard adjustment to the nba game

Oh come on. That wingspan listing by fraudexpress.com was from when he was 16 years old.

[steve]

Euroleague, with all due respect, I disagree. His passing ability is great, and his ball handling is pretty decent as well. He might be a little tall and too slow on defense against the quicker point guards in the NBA, but I see no reason as to why he can't play at least some minutes at PG.

Care to explain your opinion?

I think he's going to be a good shot creator for his teammates from the 2 spot, he has excellent passing ability, good court vision, and can handle the ball, but he doesn't really have the right mentality to be a point guard as he looks for his shot too much (which isn't necessarily a bad thing). Trying to convert him into a point guard would be trying to fit a square peg into a round hole, when he's clearly much more suited to play the 2. This isn't like an Austin Rivers situation where someone might feel he's undersized to play the 2 and try to convert him into a 1.

[DFish]

http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Meanwhile_bd72ad_3052243.jpg
http://static.imgur.com

[sick_brah07]

Oh come on. That wingspan listing by fraudexpress.com was from when he was 16 years old.

whatever the exact measurement, his arms dont look long he may be able to get to the paint but finishing will be tough. Keep in mind i didnt say he wont adjust i just said that will be a tough adjustment to make if he can make it

[steve]

whatever the exact measurement, his arms dont look long he may be able to get to the paint but finishing will be tough. Keep in mind i didnt say he wont adjust i just said that will be a tough adjustment to make if he can make it

His frame and ability to absorb contact are going to be better indicators of how well he'll be able to finish inside. His wingspan (or lack thereof) will be more noticeable on defense and his ability to effectively close out and challenge shooters.

[Euroleague]

whatever the exact measurement, his arms dont look long he may be able to get to the paint but finishing will be tough. Keep in mind i didnt say he wont adjust i just said that will be a tough adjustment to make if he can make it

The lane is much more heavily guarded in Euroleague than it is in the NBA. It will be much easier for him to get into the lane and finish in the NBA than it was in the Euroleague.

Just like Rubio said that the NBA is much easier because of that.

[Owl]

Another scouting report entirely plaigarised by me. Go visit the actual website at http://thepaintedarea.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/alexey-shved-scouting-report.html

Friday, July 20, 2012
Alexey Shved Scouting Report

Alexey Shved
6'6 PG/SG
CSKA Moscow
DOB: 12/16/88

Now that the Nic Batum situation is squared away and he gets to keep enjoying his Stumptown coffee at Albina Press for the next few years, Minnesota fans can focus their attention on another Euro, Alexey Shved.

Shved was one of the top NBA free agents prospect in Europe. For the second year in a row, Minnesota brings over one of the top young playmakers from Europe.

Many teams made the mistake of passing on him two years ago in the 2010 draft, but then it worked out better for Shved since he got to pick his preferred team.

Shved is a rangy combo guard (with a dash of flash) who spent the last two years playing for arguably the most talented team outside the NBA, CSKA Moscow.

Shved was a key contributor on CSKA, and the 23-year-old found a way to be the third-best scorer (behind A. Kirilenko & N. Krstic) on a loaded roster.

Shved possesses good athleticism that should help his game translate well to the NBA. Great size for a PG and can slide over to the 2-guard in a pinch.

Definitely needs to bulk up. Listed in the 180-190 lb. range. Though not sure he has the frame to handle much more weight.

In 21 Euroleague games, Alexey averaged 10.6 ppg, 3.1 apg, 2.6 rpg, 1.7 TOpg and 48.7% shooting in 21 minutes per game. His numbers were similar in Russian and United League (VTB) play.

He shot a terrific 49% from behind the arc in EL play (39% in Russia, 34% in VTB). H'se definitely improved his jumper over the last few years, but think these numbers might overstate his shooting prowess.

Hit only 32% of his 3PA in Russian League play in '10-'11. In general, he's a solid shooter, but don't think he's a great as this year's numbers suggest.

Would not call his shooting mechanics ideal. He tends to drift too much and his legs often splay out (right leg kicks out).

This past season, Shved would often play in the backcourt with Milos Teodosic, one of the best PGs in Europe. They would split ballhandling duties and Shved was given a lot of responsibilities on the offensive end.

Shved is a handful in pick-n-roll, where he can hit pull-ups going both ways, get all the way to rim or drop sweet dishes to his teammates. Simply a great pick-n-roll player.

A terrific passer with impeccable timing and accuracy. Not quite as masterful as his new teammate, Ricky Rubio, but he's close.

Shows good patience by sucking extra defenders toward him and letting better passing angles develop. Fast with the ball and can really push the ball in transition.

Very good handle and keeps his dribble low. Very shifty--his use of hesitation and crossover moves is superb. Has the ability to stop on a dime with his dribble and change direction.

He's very adept at going away from ball screens as well. Doesn't always need a ball screen to get into the lane and thanks to his ball skills should fare decently in iso action in the NBA.

Handles well with both hands. Can drive the ball both ways, but seems to prefer to drive the ball left. Adept at hitting floaters or runners.

Pretty good finisher with both hands, but not great. Uses jump-stop at the rim well, which fakes out defenders to create space. Could do a better job getting a bit more air under the ball on some of his close-in attempts.

When looking to score in pick-n-roll, heavily preferred pulling-up as opposed to taking it to the rim. Of Shved's 187 scoring attempts in pick/roll action recorded by Synergy Sports Technology, he attempted 119 jumpers.

Has an element of carelessness to his game. His sometimes casual approach reminds you of Vince Carter--it seems like he's playing pickup basketball. It appears sometimes he's not too concerned with his mistakes.

Will fling up some dubious runners or off-balance jumpers haphazardly. His shot selection is questionable sometimes. Also expect some forced passes into traffic on occasion.

Rightfully so, there are some questions about how he will fare defensively in the NBA.

For what it's worth, he did grade out very well in iso situations. According to Synergy Sports, held his opponent to 17.6% shooting and forced turnovers on 15% of the iso possessions.

But these numbers need to be taken with a grain of salt as he was often aided by the timely backline help of the likes of Kirilenko, Khryapa, Krstic or Kaun. There were enough instances where he got blown-by to give you pause. Just tends to react slowly.

Though, his defensive stance is not bad and contests shots well. He does tend to do a nice job of shading his man toward help.

Shved will be running the point for Team Russia at the Olympics and played solid ball at the recent Pre-Olympic tourney. Averaged 10.5 ppg, 5 apg over four games, and kept his TOs to a minimum. But he threw up a fair amount of dicey shots which played a part in him shooting 34% overall.

Imagine the TWolves see him as a reserve combo guard this season. But will be interesting to see how much ball-handling he does with Ridnour and Barea currently on the roster.

Shved's talents allow for flexible lineups. Could play him next to Rubio, which makes for an intriguing combo. Could play him with Barea or Ridnour. Could play him with Brandon Roy in the backcourt.

Given Shved's mix of size, athleticism, ball-handling ability, deft passing and solid shooting, would not surprise if he becomes a solid starter in the NBA in the future.

At worst, Minnesota acquired a nice rotation player with great versatility and some flash to excite the crowd.

[OmniStrife]

The lane is much more heavily guarded in Euroleague than it is in the NBA. It will be much easier for him to get into the lane and finish in the NBA than it was in the Euroleague.

Just like Rubio said that the NBA is much easier because of that.
Hey bro.

Tell us about Greece's chances in the Olympics. :roll:

[stallionaire]

Euroleague was wrong about Rubio... Wrong about Greece.. dude knows NOTHING about euro players or ball. Rubio is amazing... Greece sucked... and Shved can pass.

[Euroleague]

Another scouting report entirely plaigarised by me. Go visit the actual website at http://thepaintedarea.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/alexey-shved-scouting-report.html

That guys has obviously never seen Shved play last year in CSKA.

[Euroleague]

Euroleague was wrong about Rubio... dude knows NOTHING about euro players or ball. Rubio is amazing...

I was 100% right about everything I said about Rubio you ****ing ****.

[stallionaire]

I was 100% right about everything I said about Rubio you ****ing ****.

Timberwolves are a .581 team with him starting. Record average of last 3 seasons is around .260.

And Nigera > Greece. Greece didn't have a chance. Full of d-league NBA style players who wouldn't get a shot in our league.

[KGMN]

I was 100% right about everything I said about Rubio you ****ing ****.

Mmhmm...

From Dec. 2011:
Barea is vastly better than Rubio is. It's not even remotely close. If you think Rubio is better than Barea, then you have absolutely no idea about Rubio's level at all.

[LakersForlife]

who is euroleague is he a clown here in ish or a mascot sorry im new here

[FireDavidKahn]

who is euroleague is he a clown here in ish or a mascot sorry im new here
He is a clown.

[zac]

I can't comment on what's he'll be like but I'm very intrigued by him. The Grizzlies had an offer out there for him and pulled it before he made his decision because they didn't want to gamble on a player not translating like projected (they got burned on Pargo). I was in for it if he was a knockdown shooter that could at least play some defense but from what I've read he's below average on that, which is probably another reason the Grizzlies pulled their offer. If you don't play good defense, Hollins has a short leash on you.

[LosBulls]

Never seen the guy play, don't even know what he looks like but based on what people are saying on here all I can think of is Tracy McGrady... Obviously not as good but the same style.

[KGMN]

News flash, Shved is not a point guard, not by a long stretch.

The reason he can't be used as a point guard is because he has an exceptionally low basketball IQ and because he is looking for his own shot about 90% of the time he touches the ball.

Can't play point guard? Did you see his game against GB?
16 points, 13 assists!! :bowdown:

He does not look for his own shot even near 90% (I think he's almost a pass-first SG), but he's definitely confident with his shot, which is a good sign. His basketball IQ seemed relatively high to me. The main reason he'll have a tough time playing at PG is his defense is somewhat of a liability, but besides that, I see no problem.

[CasterL]

He looked nice today against GB, nice passes, composed, can make shots. Was hard to get a measure of his D in this game but he seemed pretty quick on his feet which can always be built on.

[FireDavidKahn]

http://cjzero.com/gifs/ShvedKiri2.gif
http://cjzero.com/gifs/ShvedKaun.gif

[Fiba basketball]

Can't play point guard? Did you see his game against GB?
16 points, 13 assists!! :bowdown:

He does not look for his own shot even near 90% (I think he's almost a pass-first SG), but he's definitely confident with his shot, which is a good sign. His basketball IQ seemed relatively high to me. The main reason he'll have a tough time playing at PG is his defense is somewhat of a liability, but besides that, I see no problem.
It's GB , you think he can play bad against bad team like that ? He only had 3 asp last season in Euroleague and his carere high in assists is 7 ( had them last season against if not the worst than one of the worst team in Euroleague ) , so this only proves that GB is bad team . Euroleague ( the poster ) did underrate him , his BB IQ and his potentional but you guys are overrating him , I can't understand why you guys are talking aboute his above avarge passing skills insted of his great scoring skills .

[Nash]

Ignore anything said by anyone that says he can play point guard.

Any team that uses him as a point guard is nuts.

BTW, good NBA comparison is Brent Barry, with a low basketball IQ.

And he's not as good as any of the players idiots in this thread are comparing him to.
Euroleague hates on every player that leaves Europe for NBA and downgrades every player leaving his beloved Europe for NBA. As if to say that NBA can't get our good players. And if they do good? Well its because NBA is not as good as Euroleague.

:lol