WHYYY isnt the best PG in the world playing on the USA team?

[unbreakable]

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[RoundMoundOfReb]

He doesn't want to.

[FKAri]

1. He didn't want to be a part of it (since 2010)
2. He can't shoot


I would want him on the team because he is a PG who knows how to play on a team with other stars and you can trust his decision making in critical situations. I think him and Westbrook are a toss up for those reasons.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Aliens are not american

[sagr32]

He doesn't want to.Even if he did you don't need a pure distributor when every player can create their own shot. And if you do need a distributor you have CP3 Dwill and Lebron

[50inchvertical]

Because he acted like a ****ing diva last tryouts when it became clear he wasn't going to start over Derrick Rose and asked to be dismissed on the grounds of a family member's passing. When asked about it since, he has said he doesn't want to and enjoys his summers. He is not needed.

[CelticBaller]

he doesn't want to, leave that bench spot for westbrick lol

[Rooster]

He can't shoot. FIBA style does not suit his game well.

[Haymaker]

He would have chemistry issues with almost everybody on the team.

[Miserio]

He would have chemistry issues with almost everybody on the team.
Everybody should STFU and let the GOAT playmaker do his job

[raprap]

He's from Mexico. Rrrrramon Rrrrondoooo.

[TheBigVeto]

Best PG in the world is Canadian.

[Shade8780]

He's from Mexico. Rrrrramon Rrrrondoooo.
Rrrrrramon Rrrrrondoooo

[LoneyROY7]

Best PG in the world is Canadian.

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[Nick Young]

Too much ego last time they invited him+Deron and CP3 are like better versions of rondo in terms of playmaking and scoring and passing+they are good shooters.

[Rolando]

Why would they need him? They don't seem to run plays.

[T-Time3]

Rondoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[1rkrage]

ACL

[SteveNashMVPcro]

Best PG in the world is Canadian.:cheers:

[madmax17]

Not sure, is Lin American?

[nathanjizzle]

because he tore his ACL

[raprap]

because he tore his ACL

SG

[9512]

Not sure, is Lin American?

He is American by birth right. He was born in Los Angeles.

But yea since he is not White, he is not a real American. You have to either be White or blax with a name like "jackson" or "Smith" to be considered afro american.

[miles berg]

Don't need him, DWill & Rondo are better players and they can shoot the ball which Rondo can't. Not to mention Rondos immaturity.

[blablabla]

Don't need him, DWill & Rondo are better players and they can shoot the ball which Rondo can't. Not to mention Rondos immaturity.
rondo is not a better player than rondo

[guy]

He would have chemistry issues with almost everybody on the team.

Rajon Rondo = the new Isiah Thomas.

[Sarcastic]

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I <3<3<3 Donnie Baseball.

[swi7ch]

zone defense

[cavsfanatic]

he don't fit and would mess the team up because he can't shoot. Teams in Fiba play Zone

[RaininTwos]

Rondo is the best PG in the world. I agree.

[DaHeezy]

Best PG in the world is Canadian.

Good reply.

If even he wanted to play Rondo over who? There are too many PG's aready if you ask me.
To those who say Rondo can't shoot should remember Carlos Arroyo torched Team USA once.
Speed is also a skill that dominates a world stage

[LikeABosh]

Because he's a bitch and everyone in the league hates him

[CelticBaller]

Not sure, is Lin American?
lol lin wishes he would be half the player rondo is :roll:

[1rkrage]

rondo is not a better player than rondo
yes but rondo matches rondo 1v1

[CelticBaller]

Because he's a bitch and everyone in the league hates him
Good for him, there's no competitiveness when every player in the league are butt buddies

[liquidrage]

LOL at best PG in a world. The Boston offense still sucked with the "best PG in the world" and 3 HoFers around him.

[kurple]

He can't shoot. FIBA style does not suit his game well.
rubio?

[CelticBaller]

LOL at best PG in a world. The Boston offense still sucked with the "best PG in the world" and 3 HoFers around him.
2 injured HOFers :facepalm
Why people keep using the same old argument? this season he has shown he is capable of avg 10+ assist without them and now they contribute to his scoring? Rondo CAN shoot, he just doesn't like to but when he is needed he can answer the call
Rondo clutch scoring when pierce was fouled out (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xp1TmGBg8k)

And Rondo is not going to shoot out of the game like another PG...

[liquidrage]

2 injured HOFers :facepalm
Why people keep using the same old argument? this season he has shown he is capable of avg 10+ assist without them and now they contribute to his scoring? Rondo CAN shoot, he just doesn't like to but when he is needed he can answer the call
Rondo clutch scoring when pierce was fouled out (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xp1TmGBg8k)

And Rondo is not going to shoot out of the game like another PG...

The Boston offense has been had for a few years. Not just last year.

The typical Celtic fan talks up 4 players at minimum from their team, yet the offense was BAD. And has been. It's amazing how all these players are soooo good yet the offense so bad.

[TeamLAC]

Good for him, there's no competitiveness when every player in the league are butt buddies
You admit Rondo is a bitch? :cheers:

[CelticBaller]

The Boston offense has been had for a few years. Not just last year.

The typical Celtic fan talks up 4 players at minimum from their team, yet the offense was BAD. And has been. It's amazing how all these players are soooo good yet the offense so bad.
Has been? You know we had one of the best offensive ratings in the league before the Perkins trade?
And the reason for this years struggles were
Because Pierce was injured
Because most of our bench has been injured
Because Allen only played a full series
The only players that where consistently good were KG and Rondo, and a team like this got us to the ECF. Whats not like about this? :confusedshrug:

Don't see why any Oklahoma fan would have beef with the Celtics, we don't even care about them :oldlol:

[CelticBaller]

You admit Rondo is a bitch? :cheers:
No, I admit he's a hardass and it's hard for him to make friends. If you call him a bitch that's like calling Jordan a bitch, or Shaq, or most of the bad boy pistons roster(you wouldn't dare call them bitches)

[Rolando]

LOL at best PG in a world. The Boston offense still sucked with the "best PG in the world" and 3 HoFers around him.

They took the champs to 7 games. Rondo with 22/10/14 in the final game. Blow it out your ass. How did Nash, CP3, Deron do in the playoffs?

[Bigsmoke]

Deron Williams is going good :confusedshrug:

[Bigsmoke]

They took the champs to 7 games. Rondo with 22/10/14 in the final game. Blow it out your ass. How did Nash, CP3, Deron do in the playoffs?

Chris Paul was killing until he got hurt.

[Rolando]

Chris Paul was killing until he got hurt.

yeah CP3 is great....But he got hurt. CP3 would be the best PG in the world but he ain't there anymore.

[liquidrage]

Has been? You know we had one of the best offensive ratings in the league before the Perkins trade?
And the reason for this years struggles were
Because Pierce was injured
Because most of our bench has been injured
Because Allen only played a full series
The only players that where consistently good were KG and Rondo, and a team like this got us to the ECF. Whats not like about this? :confusedshrug:

Don't see why any Oklahoma fan would have beef with the Celtics, we don't even care about them :oldlol:

Your offense rating has been bad for THREE years.

[liquidrage]

They took the champs to 7 games. Rondo with 22/10/14 in the final game. Blow it out your ass. How did Nash, CP3, Deron do in the playoffs?

Two of those are clearly better than Rondo. One of those was before he was old.

This thread is "best PG in the world". And that's crazy talk.

[Rolando]

Two of those are clearly better than Rondo. One of those was before he was old.

This thread is "best PG in the world". And that's crazy talk.

Deron and CP3 are living on rep. Meanwhile Rondo delivers.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Because he's a bitch and everyone in the league hates him
This. Only Boston fans and a select few seem to like him. He is always going to be one of those players that gets underrated because no one liked him. I think he is a great player. But Team USA doesn't need his whiny bitch ass

[SilkkTheShocker]

Deron and CP3 are living on rep. Meanwhile Rondo delivers.
Deron is overrated but I would still take Paul over Rondo.

[liquidrage]

Deron and CP3 are living on rep. Meanwhile Rondo delivers.

He delivers what? A bottom half of the league offense 3 years running?

I'm proud he got a few great playoff games to go along with some stinkers.

If the Celtics played more ISO like most of the league his assists would plummet. They don't, and their offense is bad. He led the league by a good margin in jumpshot assists, not in near the rim assist. I'm not saying he can't pass, he can. But the Celtics ran a lot of screens for quick shots and that inflates his numbers. Offensively he's probably the most inconsistent starter in the league.

[Rolando]

He delivers what? A bottom half of the league offense 3 years running?

I'm proud he got a few great playoff games to go along with some stinkers.

If the Celtics played more ISO like most of the league his assists would plummet. They don't, and their offense is bad. He led the league by a good margin in jumpshot assists, not in near the rim assist. I'm not saying he can't pass, he can. But the Celtics ran a lot of screens for quick shots and that inflates his numbers. Offensively he's probably the most inconsistent starter in the league.

I'm glad the Celts don't play ISO Ball. Shit is boring.

Yeah yeah, Rondo and his "inflated" numbers. I guess Nash's numbers are inflated too because he can run an offense like Rondo can. These guys are real actual point guards that can run plays, how stupid, right? Why don't they join the rest of the league and play shit ISO ball?

Controlling a game from the floor is inflating stats, right? Point guards are not necessary anymore I guess.

[liquidrage]

I'm glad the Celts don't play ISO Ball. Shit is boring.

Yeah yeah, Rondo and his "inflated" numbers. I guess Nash's numbers are inflated too because he can run an offense like Rondo can. These guys are real actual point guards that can run plays, how stupid, right? Why don't they join the rest of the league and play shit ISO ball?

Controlling a game from the floor is inflating stats, right? Point guards are not necessary anymore I guess.

He gets assists in a SHIT offense. Something people entirely gloss over. He also had a disproportionate number of assists that are jumpshots. He's entirely overrated. The Celtics, even with injuries, have had more talent than many other teams the last 3 years and their offense still has been bad.

Without Ray, with KG and Paul a year older, it's only going to get worse for Boston. Maybe Jeff Green can show some heart and put some life into the offense.

[Rooster]

rubio?

he usually struggle in international competition. if he was American, he would never be on the team. We have so many playmakers, we need people who can shoot like Paul and Deron Williams. Teams are playing full zone if Rondo will run the point.

[hangintheair]

Cause he's ego is way way up and he is a cancer..

[BabyBull]

Its kind of Dream Team vs Isiah Thomas deal ... only Rondo isn't even as good as Isiah.

[FreezingTsmoove]

No one likes him he has got into fights with Kobe, CP3 and im sure others on the team. He's always trying to go after LeBron but Bron doesn't seem to care he just keeps whoopin dat ass in the playoffs

[Flea]

Because V-Span is Greek :lol

[Celtic_Pride]

He gets assists in a SHIT offense.

What are you smoking?

Celtics are always among top 3 in the league in FG% since the big 3 era. They were 5th in the last season (despite no easy fast break points or offensive putbacks) and 3 teams above them (Denver, Miami, OKC) rely primarily on fast break and hence have better FG%.

In a half court offense, Celtics led the league in terms of efficiency(FG%) since last 5 years with Rondo starting! And you are calling this shit offense? :no:

I guess you're simply going by PPG and declaring that Boston has a bad offense. 4 of Celtics starters prefer slow paced half court game and hence Rondo's game is being limited. Finally this season Boston has players like Bradley, Lee, Green, Wilcox who will run with Rondo and you will see the increase in PPG!



I'm proud he got a few great playoff games to go along with some stinkers.


Can you name any guard in the league right now who will go 3-10 from the field and still manage to dominate a playoff game?

[CelticBaller]

No one likes him he has got into fights with Kobe, CP3 and im sure others on the team. He's always trying to go after LeBron but Bron doesn't seem to care he just keeps whoopin dat ass in the playoffs
Lebron finally has a winning record against the Celtics...

[CelticBaller]

Cause he's ego is way way up and he is a cancer..
Not getting well with players from opposites team makes him a cancer? I guess KG is a cancer too :rolleyes:

[Lebron23]

He will struggle in the FIBA rules.

[TeamLAC]

No, I admit he's a hardass and it's hard for him to make friends. If you call him a bitch that's like calling Jordan a bitch, or Shaq, or most of the bad boy pistons roster(you wouldn't dare call them bitches)
You're right. His own teammate didn't like him. :applause:

[Mach_3]

He gets assists in a SHIT offense. Something people entirely gloss over. He also had a disproportionate number of assists that are jumpshots. He's entirely overrated. The Celtics, even with injuries, have had more talent than many other teams the last 3 years and their offense still has been bad.

Without Ray, with KG and Paul a year older, it's only going to get worse for Boston. Maybe Jeff Green can show some heart and put some life into the offense.

:facepalm

Wait weren't you the same dude who said Westbrook was a better point then Rondo?

[liquidrage]

:facepalm

Wait weren't you the same dude who said Westbrook was a better point then Rondo?

He is. And a lot of people agree. A TON agree.

Put Rondo on the Kings and he's not even in this discussion. He'd avg 12/5/5 and no one would care.

OMG HE THINKZ WESTBROOK >>> RONDO


Here's news. DUH!

[CelticBaller]

You're right. His own teammate didn't like him. :applause:
Steve Kerr hated Jordan, Jordan is a bitch right?

[WockaVodka]

Steve Kerr hated Jordan, Jordan is a bitch right?
Rondo is not Jordan, fail comparison.

[Celtic_Pride]

He is. And a lot of people agree. A TON agree.

Put Rondo on the Kings and he's not even in this discussion. He'd avg 12/5/5 and no one would care.

OMG HE THINKZ WESTBROOK >>> RONDO


Here's news. DUH!


You really think Westbrook is better at running the point than Rondo?

Oh I forgot you are also the one who called the most efficient offense in the NBA as a shitty one :facepalm

[liquidrage]

You really think Westbrook is better at running the point than Rondo?

Oh I forgot you are also the one who called the most efficient offense in the NBA as a shitty one :facepalm

If only there was a PPP stat...... :rolleyes:

http://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/offensive-efficiency

Asshole

[Mach_3]

He is. And a lot of people agree. A TON agree.

Put Rondo on the Kings and he's not even in this discussion. He'd avg 12/5/5 and no one would care.

OMG HE THINKZ WESTBROOK >>> RONDO


Here's news. DUH!

westbrook couldn't make an entry pass to save his life and you think he's a better point

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

So a guy who easily has the best post season out of all the PGs, carries his completely injured team to a game 7 against the champs and he'd only average 12 and 5 on another team. Only on ISH could someone average like 22/12 against the champs and only be capable of putting up scrub numbers on another team :facepalm

[CelticBaller]

Rondo is not Jordan, fail comparison.
Rondo was "hated" by his teammate, so was Jordan.
Both are/were the stars of their team
Most of the players in the league hate him.

I'm I missing something here?

[Celtic_Pride]

If only there was a PPP stat...... :rolleyes:

http://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/offensive-efficiency

Asshole

Isn't that the same as PPG?

I have already explained to you why Boston's PPG is low in the previous page. You really do not know the difference between FG% and PPG. What a tool :facepalm

[liquidrage]

westbrook couldn't make an entry pass to save his life and you think he's a better point

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

So a guy who easily has the best post season out of all the PGs, carries his completely injured team to a game 7 against the champs and he'd only average 12 and 5 on another team. Only on ISH could someone average like 22/12 against the champs and only be capable of putting up scrub numbers on another team :facepalm

Durant can't take an entry pass to save his life. And he still the best scorer on the planet. OKC's offense isn't conducive to assists. Which is why even though Westbrook was avg for assists for a PG per possession this past year (and well above the previous two years with 2 other players starting) and yet amazingly OKC offense still was >>>> Boston's

Rondo has some nice assist stats, in a SHITTY offense. It's shitty. Stop arguing. The facts show Boston's offense SUCKS. YEAH RONDO!!!!!

[liquidrage]

Isn't that the same as PPG?



No, it's not the same as PPG. WTF?

[TeamLAC]

Steve Kerr hated Jordan, Jordan is a bitch right?
Rondo = Jordan ? Im done

[CelticBaller]

Rondo = Jordan ? Im done
It's a simple comparison. Wow your reading comprehension is ridiculous.

[Celtic_Pride]

amazingly OKC offense still was >>>> Boston's

Rondo has some nice assist stats, in a SHITTY offense. It's shitty. Stop arguing. The facts show Boston's offense SUCKS. YEAH RONDO!!!!!

:facepalm

Boston Celtics FG% in the last 5 years with Rondo at PG is 47%. This despite very limited fast break points or offensive putbacks. More the FG% = more the open shots a team takes. Can you post a better FG% for any team in these 5 years?

And OKC offense is better than Boston? :biggums:

Westbrook, Durant and Harden take turns for isolation plays. Is that better than Rondo running a set play for you?


No, it's not the same as PPG. WTF?

It almost is. Top 10 teams leading the league in PPG were all top 10 (with a few positions interchanged) in the link you provided.

Again more PPG is not the same as efficient offense!

[Mach_3]

Durant can't take an entry pass to save his life. And he still the best scorer on the planet. OKC's offense isn't conducive to assists. Which is why even though Westbrook was avg for assists for a PG per possession this past year (and well above the previous two years with 2 other players starting) and yet amazingly OKC offense still was >>>> Boston's

Rondo has some nice assist stats, in a SHITTY offense. It's shitty. Stop arguing. The facts show Boston's offense SUCKS. YEAH RONDO!!!!!

Actually, i could care less about assists numbers. Rondo is a much better point this Westbrook because of his superior ability to control the tempo of the game and consistently get his teamates clean looks in their favorite spots, plus finding holes in the defense and exploiting mismatches.

I don't hate Westbrook at all, i actually love his "i don't give a fcuk" mentality, it's just that from all that i've watched of him he doesn't have the decision making like a true PG

[Mach_3]

Rondo = Jordan ? Im done

Jesus Christ you can't read :biggums:

[SilkkTheShocker]

Lebron finally has a winning record against the Celtics...
Celtics could only beat him when he was playing with crap in Cleveland. Expect that winning record to improve

[Sakkreth]

Rondo is terrible in international play, maybe that's why ?

[liquidrage]

:facepalm

Boston Celtics FG% in the last 5 years with Rondo at PG is 47%. This despite very limited fast break points or offensive putbacks. More the FG% = more the open shots a team takes. Can you post a better FG% for any team in these 5 years?

And OKC offense is better than Boston? :biggums:

Westbrook, Durant and Harden take turns for isolation plays. Is that better than Rondo running a set play for you?



It almost is. Top 10 teams leading the league in PPG were all top 10 (with a few positions interchanged) in the link you provided.

Again more PPG is not the same as efficient offense!

Oh brother.

Look, the stat I linked was offensive efficiency. Let me repeat that, it was offensive efficiency. Basically, it's the points you score per possession. It's important because not all teams try and play at the same pace. If you slow the game down but score more per possession that's good, but if you speed it up and score less per possession that's not good.

So no, all this crap you're writing flies in the face of exactly what I linked.

For 3 years now Boston's offense has been BAD. Just deal with it. Rondo and the HoFers had a crap offense.

[mark]

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poor attitude, he cannot get along with anyone. He has the purest pg abilities, and quickness, speed, I just dont get it. But I do understand from an attitude standpoint.

[Darius]

:confusedshrug:

CP3 is not only playing, he's starting.

Do you not watch games?

[BlackWhiteGreen]

If the team didn't have a collective ego the size of Great Britain, Rondo would run that team better than anyone. But they do, so he's not the best choice.

[Mach_3]

poor attitude, he cannot get along with anyone. He has the purest pg abilities, and quickness, speed, I just dont get it. But I do understand from an attitude standpoint.

Pierce and Garnett love him:confusedshrug:

[ballup]

Rondo's style can fit into international basketball. He does have shooting ability, contrary to what most think. His incredible speed matches the international game well too. He wouldn't fit Team USA because that team doesn't run many plays, and the ones they do run are really simple.

The Celtics did not have a great offense because they played too traditionally. Their style is to primarily have a point guard run plays for his teammates. Now, most of Rondo's teammates rely on jump shooting from midrange. The midrange game is a great assest, but it's not the most efficient skill because the difficulty is not rewarded more than a simple layup. Most of whom Rondo has worked with in the Big 3 era did not cut to the basket as much as he'd like. As Rondo got better, the Big 3's athleticism waned, resulting in them attacking the basket less and less. The offense would be much better if there was a balance of cutters and shooters.

Rondo's game is not catered well by his teammates. Most of them don't run with him on breaks. Also add to the fact that Rondo has only played extensively with 3 athletic big men in KG, Wilcox, and Powe. KG's athleticism declined pretty hard before Rondo came to prominence and so did Powe's.

This "3 HOFer's" thing is a stupid notion. They aren't super powers in the league anymore and they haven't been for a while.

[ballup]

http://headblitz.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/rondo_chest_bump.gif
Bump.

[Eat Like A Bosh]

WHYYY would you want Rondo when you have Chris Paul and Deron Williams?