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Clippersfan86
07-27-2012, 10:11 AM
Great pickup if 5 mill a year but 10??

miller-time
07-27-2012, 10:12 AM
man... sometimes it just smacks you in the face how much these guys are making. even 5 mil a year is mental.

Xiao Yao You
07-27-2012, 10:16 AM
For two years :roll: . Great pickup 5 mill a year but 10??

Yet he is better than Deandre Jordan and it's only for two years.

Clippersfan86
07-27-2012, 10:17 AM
Yet he is better than Deandre Jordan and it's only for two years.

Centers always get a premium, not comparable (Although I have no problem agreeing it's overpay). Besides Jordan is 24 and has great upside, Kirilenko is on the decline and is 31. Man I remember when you used to be a reasonable guy.

EnoughSaid
07-27-2012, 10:17 AM
AK = One of the best defenders at his position.

Grinder
07-27-2012, 10:25 AM
Centers always get a premium, not comparable (Although I have no problem agreeing it's overpay). Besides Jordan is 24 and has great upside, Kirilenko is on the decline and is 31. Man I remember when you used to be a reasonable guy.

He's better than Caron Butler and is only making 2 mil/yr more than him and it's only a two year deal. If you've seen him play the past year, you'd see that Kirilenko is playing as well as he ever has - 10 mil/yr on a 2 year deal is not bad at all.

Clippersfan86
07-27-2012, 10:26 AM
He's better than Caron Butler and is only making 2 mil/yr more than him and it's only a two year deal. If you've seen him play the past year, you'd see that Kirilenko is playing as well as he ever has - 10 mil/yr on a 2 year deal is not bad at all.

Fair enough the Caron situation is comparable although most people DO consider Caron overpay as well including me. With this offseason especially nothing surprises me when guys like Batum are getting 12 mill a year etc.

Xiao Yao You
07-27-2012, 10:32 AM
I don't really any difference. Happens every year.

bagelred
07-27-2012, 10:33 AM
Great pickup if 5 mill a year but 10??

does it matter? who are the TWolves saving cap space for?

EnoughSaid
07-27-2012, 10:35 AM
At least he's a guy that's proven that he can help out A LOT. Unlike someone that has barely done shit, and is just getting overpaid.

alenleomessi
07-27-2012, 10:51 AM
He is still a top 10 SF in the league and top 5 defender at his position
Better than guys like Batum and Butler who get big money too

Pointguard
07-27-2012, 10:54 AM
I recall, at one point, when he could do it all. I mean get you steals, blocks and score. And then you didn't even notice he was in the league. I think you should at least be a 15 and 7 guy and 35 minutes for 10 Mill a year and he's a 12 and 5 guy. Very serviceable but he peaked 6 years ago at 24 years old.

Clippersfan86
07-27-2012, 10:55 AM
I recall, at one point, when he could do it all. I mean get you steals, blocks and score. And then you didn't even notice he was in the league. I think you should at least be a 15 and 7 guy and 35 minutes for 10 Mill a year and he's a 12 and 5 guy. Very serviceable but he peaked 6 years ago at 24 years old.

This is all I'm saying. Then again like others have said.... EVERYBODY is getting overpaid right now so I don't know why it surprises us every time.

SilkkTheShocker
07-27-2012, 11:06 AM
No offense Clip, but Deandre Jordan is garbage. Even when taking into consideration how overpaid centers are.

Xiao Yao You
07-27-2012, 11:09 AM
No offense Clip, but Deandre Jordan is garbage. Even when taking into consideration how overpaid centers are.

Come on now. He's part of the core of the deepest team and best rotation in the whole league!

SilkkTheShocker
07-27-2012, 11:11 AM
Come on now. He's part of the core of the deepest team and best rotation in the whole league!


:oldlol:

hawksdogsbraves
07-27-2012, 12:18 PM
That's way too much, but it's only for two years so that's not so bad. I think Kirilenko is a case of a guy who is only an average NBA player, but he went over and dominated Europe (surprise surprise) so now people are thinking he's more than he really is.

His best year he did average 15ppg/8rpg/4apg/1.5spg/3bpg which is really nasty. That was 6 years ago though, and he's more of a 12/5/3/1/1 guy now, which is only worth about $5 million.

But what do you expect from the worst GM in pro sports?

bluechox2
07-27-2012, 12:20 PM
good pickup and replacement for beasley

FireMcFailPlease
07-27-2012, 02:25 PM
love it. looked like he tore up euroleague so hopefully has some swag back.

getting rid of wes johnson just improves our team, a lot.

Euroleague
07-27-2012, 09:26 PM
love it. looked like he tore up euroleague so hopefully has some swag back.

getting rid of wes johnson just improves our team, a lot.

14/7 is "tearing up Euroleague" huh?

FireDavidKahn
07-27-2012, 09:30 PM
The amount of money we are paying him doesn't really mean much since it is only a 2 year deal. Look at this list and them tell me we vastly overpaid for him:


Gay- $17.9 mil
Pierce- $16 mil
Iggy- $15.5 mil
Deng- $13.9 mil
Granger- $13.5 mil
J. Smith- $13.2 mil
Turkoglu- $11.9 mil
Batum- $11.5 mil
R. Jefferson- $10.6 mil
Gallinari- $10.5 mil
Wallace- $10 mil
Kirilenko- $9.5-10 mil (reports vary)
Marion- $8.7 mil
Odom- $8.2 mil or Butler- $8 mil
Salmons- $8 mil? Not sure how much the non-guaranteed part is worth, might be a bit more.
Marvin Williams- $7.9 mil
Artest- $7.5 mil
Ariza- $7.5 mil
Childress- $7 mil

niko
07-27-2012, 09:36 PM
14/7 is "tearing up Euroleague" huh?
You are not allowed to speak until you give us 200 words on why greece lose to Nigeria.

Eric Cartman
07-27-2012, 09:47 PM
It's only a two year deal.

Raz
07-27-2012, 09:56 PM
14/7 is "tearing up Euroleague" huh?

Euroleague MVP.

Real Men Wear Green
07-27-2012, 10:05 PM
He's a good player...but I will never forget that PP made him cry (http://sweetdue.blogspot.com/2006/02/paul-pierce-makes-andre-kirilenko-cry_22.html).

poido123
07-27-2012, 10:06 PM
The amount of money we are paying him doesn't really mean much since it is only a 2 year deal. Look at this list and them tell me we vastly overpaid for him:

Gay- $17.9 mil
Pierce- $16 mil
Iggy- $15.5 mil
Deng- $13.9 mil
Granger- $13.5 mil
J. Smith- $13.2 mil
Turkoglu- $11.9 mil
Batum- $11.5 mil
R. Jefferson- $10.6 mil
Gallinari- $10.5 mil
Wallace- $10 mil
Kirilenko- $9.5-10 mil (reports vary)
Marion- $8.7 mil
Odom- $8.2 mil or Butler- $8 mil
Salmons- $8 mil? Not sure how much the non-guaranteed part is worth, might be a bit more.
Marvin Williams- $7.9 mil
Artest- $7.5 mil
Ariza- $7.5 mil
Childress- $7 mil

When you look at that list of salaries here, he falls in line with the current market pricetag, according to what he should be paid with his talent. Rubio, Shadev, Kirelenko, Love, and Pekovic? is a pretty solid starting lineup. Not too sure on how shadev will go, but he should settle in a lot better with a fellow russian in the team.

Sometimes teams need to overpay that last piece to the team, and AK is a commitment for only 2 years, so the team can see how he meshes. All in all, I think the Timberwolves have alot to be excited about this upcoming season, and definately the season after. :applause:

ElPigto
07-27-2012, 10:08 PM
14/7 is "tearing up Euroleague" huh?

Greece sucks, I told you so.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

GOBB
07-27-2012, 10:13 PM
This is disgusting. I'm done with the NBA and their overpaying. Going to MLB. Peace.

Raz
07-27-2012, 10:16 PM
This is disgusting. I'm done with the NBA and their overpaying. Going to MLB. Peace.

Richard Jefferson or Kirilenko? Kirilenko makes less.

B-Easy8
07-27-2012, 10:34 PM
I love this move. AK is the perfect complement to Love and Pek in the frontcourt. I'm gonna say 12 points, 6-7 boards, 3 assists, 1.5 steals and 1.5 blocks per game.

Pra
07-27-2012, 10:35 PM
It's only a two year deal.

Kind of like the David West 2/20M deal... not bad at all. Essentially the 2nd year is an expiring....

Levity
07-27-2012, 10:42 PM
like everyone said, the timberwolves had more than enough cap space, its only a two year deal, and they fill a position of need.

Stupid/immature thread OP.

FreezingTsmoove
07-27-2012, 10:46 PM
"If you left DeAndre Jordan in a gym all night and told him he couldn't dunk he'd have 6 points in the morning" - Charles Barkley

RazorBaLade
07-27-2012, 10:46 PM
"If you left DeAndre Jordan in a gym all night and told him he couldn't dunk he'd have 6 points in the morning" - Charles Barkley

:roll:

RaininTwos
07-28-2012, 12:25 AM
"If you left DeAndre Jordan in a gym all night and told him he couldn't dunk he'd have 6 points in the morning" - Charles Barkley
:roll: :roll: :roll:

That funny as hell.

Did he really say that though?

InspiredLebowski
07-28-2012, 05:27 AM
Little high if I were a Sota fan. If I were a Sota fan I'd also be pretty hyped about signing him. AK was arguably the best player in Europe last year and it's a 2 year deal. Gerald Wallace just got 4/40. Jeff Green just got 4/36. He's markedly better than either of those guys.

Talk as much shit about Kahn as you want, the Timberwolves are a solid team and I doubt there's many teams that're anxious to see them in the playoffs if Rubio can get healthy.

GOBB
07-28-2012, 07:24 AM
:roll: :roll: :roll:

That funny as hell.

Did he really say that though?

You don't watch TNT crew? Wow he said it there

Xiao Yao You
07-28-2012, 10:21 AM
Little high if I were a Sota fan. If I were a Sota fan I'd also be pretty hyped about signing him. AK was arguably the best player in Europe last year and it's a 2 year deal. Gerald Wallace just got 4/40. Jeff Green just got 4/36. He's markedly better than either of those guys.

Talk as much shit about Kahn as you want, the Timberwolves are a solid team and I doubt there's many teams that're anxious to see them in the playoffs if Rubio can get healthy.

They've got a lot to prove before we can just put them in the playoffs. AK and Wallace are pretty comparable. Both defensive energy guys that can play 3 positions and do a lot of things. Wallace is a better rebounder which might be a better fit for the Nets with Lopez at center and AK is a better ball handler and passer which might work better with an Adelman squad. Green still has a lot to prove especially after his heart problems.

sfballa13
07-28-2012, 11:23 AM
The Wolves should have traded for Tayshaun Prince, he is not only the better player but 3M cheaper.

They used a pick to move Wes, which in hindsight looks kind of stupid

Pistons would have done Wes+(signed and traded Beasley) for Tay and Maxiell

Wolves would have gotten:
-a veteran SF that can ball handle until Rubio comes back
-a more than capable back up PF in Maxiell (who is also in a contract year)

Instead they paid 3-4M more, wasted a pick to move Wes when they could have included him in another trade, and let Beasley walk for nothing.

I love the Wolves, they are my second favorite team after the Pistons, but Kahn screwed the pooch on this one. If he offered Wes+Beasley to the Lakers last year he could easily gotten a young player+one of their first rounders but instead just offered Beasley and demanded the higher of the 2 firsts. He could have also tried to trade for Iggy by offering D.Will, Wes, and Beasley. There is no way Philly would have turned that offer down and that deal may have sent the Wolves to the playoffs last year and 100% this year. Beasley+Wes and to some extent D.Will are all young talent that Kahn acquired and unfortunately let rot away instead of getting top dollar value for them.

Whatever, what's done is done I think Adelman will be able to really utilize AK47 and I predict he will thrive in his system.

DStebb716
07-28-2012, 11:33 AM
I don't question these ridiculous moves any longer. AK has been out of the league for two years. He doesn't deserve a penny more than 3 mill.

GOBB
07-29-2012, 10:16 AM
I don't question these ridiculous moves any longer. AK has been out of the league for two years. He doesn't deserve a penny more than 3 mill.

And Lin deserves his contract after 25gms of starting. Yeah, ok.

jayfan
07-29-2012, 11:14 AM
The Wolves should have traded for Tayshaun Prince, he is not only the better player but 3M cheaper.




Wow. You clearly haven't watched a Pistons game since 2008. Tayshaun Prince is done. It agonizes Pistons fans that he's still on the team taking up minutes. I'd take AK and give you Prince in a heartbeat.

sfballa13
07-29-2012, 11:28 AM
Tay at 6 is way better than AK47 at 10

Not to mention they had to give up a pick AND wes just to sign him

They could have sign and traded Beasley to the Pistons for Prince and kept Wes and the pick.

I hate Tay's guts and wants him off the team but there is no way AK47 puts up better stats than him sorry.

As for me watching Pistons games, catch me in my season tickets, six down from where Blaha calls the game, second row COURT SIDE bithc

jayfan
07-29-2012, 11:47 AM
Tay at 6 is way better than AK47 at 10

Not to mention they had to give up a pick AND wes just to sign him

They could have sign and traded Beasley to the Pistons for Prince and kept Wes and the pick.

I hate Tay's guts and wants him off the team but there is no way AK47 puts up better stats than him sorry.

As for me watching Pistons games, catch me in my season tickets, six down from where Blaha calls the game, second row COURT SIDE bithc


Nice seats, bro. Blaha rules. But AK is twice the player that Tay is at this point. The only category Tay will outstat AK in is shots jacked and missed. AK still contributes intangibles that Tay hasn't contributed in 4 years. Watch.

Go Getter
07-29-2012, 12:45 PM
man... sometimes it just smacks you in the face how much these guys are making. even 5 mil a year is mental.
Think about how much the guy who is paying HIM is making, whew, must be nice.

FireDavidKahn
07-29-2012, 12:46 PM
I don't question these ridiculous moves any longer. AK has been out of the league for two years. He doesn't deserve a penny more than 3 mill.
Someone needs to learn to count.

FireDavidKahn
07-29-2012, 12:48 PM
Tay at 6 is way better than AK47 at 10

Not to mention they had to give up a pick AND wes just to sign him

They could have sign and traded Beasley to the Pistons for Prince and kept Wes and the pick.

I hate Tay's guts and wants him off the team but there is no way AK47 puts up better stats than him sorry.

As for me watching Pistons games, catch me in my season tickets, six down from where Blaha calls the game, second row COURT SIDE bithc
It's a 2 year deal, total salary is meaningless on a deal so short. We also traded away our worst player on the team for the last 2 years in Wes and gave away a pick that will be in the 20s. Wes + 1st round pick in the 20s for AK47 is just fine.

FireDavidKahn
07-29-2012, 12:49 PM
Tay at 6 is way better than AK47 at 10

Not to mention they had to give up a pick AND wes just to sign him

They could have sign and traded Beasley to the Pistons for Prince and kept Wes and the pick.

I hate Tay's guts and wants him off the team but there is no way AK47 puts up better stats than him sorry.

As for me watching Pistons games, catch me in my season tickets, six down from where Blaha calls the game, second row COURT SIDE bithc
There's your problem, you're a box score analyst.

ralph_i_el
07-29-2012, 01:46 PM
He was making like 7/8 mil in russia right?. They have to pay him more to get him to come back to America or we'd never see him again

ralph_i_el
07-29-2012, 01:49 PM
Tay at 6 is way better than AK47 at 10

Not to mention they had to give up a pick AND wes just to sign him

They could have sign and traded Beasley to the Pistons for Prince and kept Wes and the pick.

I hate Tay's guts and wants him off the team but there is no way AK47 puts up better stats than him sorry.

As for me watching Pistons games, catch me in my season tickets, six down from where Blaha calls the game, second row COURT SIDE bithc

if you judge either of those guy's by stats then what's the point?