View Full Version : Game 2 ECF Bos-Mia Overtime
Horde of Temujin
07-28-2012, 11:16 PM
This thread will be bumped every so often to remind folks of the horrible officiating that abetted Miami in winning the title this year. People are acting as if Miami waltzed their way to the finals and were the hands dowm best team in L last year, but the fact is Miami was very nearly beat by the Celtics. People are also acting as if it is a foregone conclusion that they will win the Chip next year as well. Anytime the 2012 NBA champs Miami Heat are mentioned the sham that was the 2012 ECF should be mentioned in the same breath.
For the record, No, i am not a Lakers fan and Yes, the 2002 WCF was just as egregious, but im concentrating on this particular season at the moment. And No, Kobe is not the best player to ever live. And Yes, Lebron James is a great player and deserved the MVP. I just find it hard to believe that people can so easily overlook what happened and fail to acknowledge what happened. If I was a Miami fan i would be disgusted to win in that manner.
Im sure from reading the title many of you were able to guess what two plays I was going to discuss. No call on Rondo drive to hoop on D-Wade. Taken by itself, I am ok with the no call, id rather see them play, but it happened to be followed by an ultimate act of b!tchdom and false bravado. The no call came at a critical point in the game and was preceded by two games of questionable calls.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmGTDBR2ye4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
The act that I was referring to before was D-Wade's drive to the hoop with his leg extended and draws the foul on KG. It should've been a no call. I dont think it was quite a kick but given the context of the officiating of the game, It definitely shouldve been a no-call.
Then he had the nerve to stare down KG afterwards as if he did anything to merit it. Yes, you punk, the name is deserved: D- Whistle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TANWcRZBLos&feature=youtube_gdata_player
DaSeba5
07-28-2012, 11:19 PM
This is beating the dead horse, but the Rondo one was a no call. However, KG actually hit Wade on his arm and considering Wade is a superstar, they give him the benefit of the doubt even though it looked like he kicked KG.
plowking
07-28-2012, 11:21 PM
Have you ever done a layup? Taught one?
What happens when you lift your right hand to shoot the ball? Your right leg naturally comes up when jumping off the left foot. What happens when a player comes across and jumps into your path? He hits you.
Yes, it was a bad call on Rondo. One call doesn't cost a game though.
Horde of Temujin
07-28-2012, 11:23 PM
Ya, youre right, i am beating the horse, but the officiating was so eggregious for most of the series and in particular game 2 i feel that the horse should be revived every so often.
Horde of Temujin
07-28-2012, 11:25 PM
Have you ever done a layup? Taught one?
What happens when you lift your right hand to shoot the ball? Your right leg naturally comes up when jumping off the left foot. What happens when a player comes across and jumps into your path? He hits you.
Yes, it was a bad call on Rondo. One call doesn't cost a game though.
I said i didnt think it was a kick, rather a no-call
Horde of Temujin
07-28-2012, 11:28 PM
And it was not just one call. Those two calls happen to stand out because they came at a critical juncture and were within a short span of each other and epitomize, imo, the officiating of the series.
DaSeba5
07-28-2012, 11:29 PM
And it was not just one call. Those two calls happen to stand out because they came at a critical juncture and were within a short span of each other and epitomize, imo, the officiating of the series.
Do you believe Miami only won this series because of the refs?
EnoughSaid
07-28-2012, 11:31 PM
:roll: It's already done with jeesh. Stop trying to talk about something that's irrelevant. Especially with how LeBron fouled out for the first time in like 2 years in THIS series.
Horde of Temujin
07-28-2012, 11:33 PM
Do you believe Miami only won this series because of the refs?
It helped. The first two games were particulary poorly officiated and set the tone. But then again i cant say that would not Lebron have responded with more epic performances like game 6?
Horde of Temujin
07-28-2012, 11:36 PM
:roll: It's already done with jeesh. Stop trying to talk about something that's irrelevant. Especially with how LeBron fouled out for the first time in like 2 years in THIS series.
If you find it irrelevant then don't bother to respond. This is a basketball forum where multiple threads are created, variety is the spice of life, go read another one then
DaSeba5
07-29-2012, 01:30 AM
It helped. The first two games were particulary poorly officiated and set the tone. But then again i cant say that would not Lebron have responded with more epic performances like game 6?
Boston got a lot of calls in Boston. I think the hometeam gets hometown cooking. Miami gets a lot of calls because they have stars and they attack the paint, but I don't think it's bad enough to say it's the reason they won the title.
alwaysunny
07-29-2012, 01:33 AM
:roll: It's already done with jeesh. Stop trying to talk about something that's irrelevant. Especially with how LeBron fouled out for the first time in like 2 years in THIS series.
Yep if you wanna be fair this was a BS call too. I hate when players get penalized for being too strong.
EnoughSaid
07-29-2012, 01:45 AM
Yep if you wanna be fair this was a BS call too. I hate when players get penalized for being too strong.
LeBron fell down because Pietrius tripped him up and LeBron is the one getting called for the foul. :facepalm
DaSeba5
07-29-2012, 01:47 AM
LeBron fell down because Pietrius tripped him up and LeBron is the one getting called for the foul. :facepalm
Yah that was BS.
BlackWhiteGreen
07-29-2012, 02:35 AM
I think it was marginal, but at home Wade will always get that call. Is it right? Probably not, but that's the way it is.
This is beating the dead horse, but the Rondo one was a no call. However, KG actually hit Wade on his arm and considering Wade is a superstar, they give him the benefit of the doubt even though it looked like he kicked KG.
:roll:
http://guyism.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Dwyane-Wade-foul.jpg
LeBron fell down because Pietrius tripped him up and LeBron is the one getting called for the foul.
Pierce got called for a worse one to foul out about 30 seconds before.
Deuce Bigalow
07-29-2012, 03:11 AM
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Horde of Temujin
09-13-2012, 08:17 AM
Bump!
JohnnySic
09-13-2012, 09:06 AM
The Heat are always going to get the 50/50 calls, especially in cruch time. That's just the landscape. Teams need to be cognizant of that and act accordingly. You need to build a lead and hold it, not make unforced mistakes, not beat yourself. That's how Dallas won the title in '11.
Rondo pushed Lebron some plays before and got a jumpball instead.../thread
Mach_3
09-14-2012, 08:58 AM
The Heat are always going to get the 50/50 calls, especially in cruch time. That's just the landscape. Teams need to be cognizant of that and act accordingly. You need to build a lead and hold it, not make unforced mistakes, not beat yourself. That's how Dallas won the title in '11.
Unfortunately, as much as i would love to see a game that's actually reffed evenly the entire way through the NBA will never be like that and considering the fact that the L has never attempted to fix the reffing issues proves it :(
JohnnySic
09-14-2012, 09:13 AM
Unfortunately, as much as i would love to see a game that's actually reffed evenly the entire way through the NBA will never be like that and considering the fact that the L has never attempted to fix the reffing issues proves it :(
Teams with marquee stars get favorable calls. Its been that way since the Jordanaire days. Its just the way it is.
The good news is that teams can (sometimes) overcome this disadvantage by just being better. The Spurs won four titles even though they are as anti-Stern as it gets.
eliteballer
09-14-2012, 09:19 AM
Teams with marquee stars get favorable calls. Its been that way since the Jordanaire days. Its just the way it is.
The good news is that teams can (sometimes) overcome this disadvantage by just being better. The Spurs won four titles even though they are as anti-Stern as it gets.
No they aren't. The Spurs are a very clean cut "vanilla" team which is exactly what management might want to be the image of a league often seen by the general public as littered by thugs and delinquents.
Bump!
Why don't you make a thread about the Boston/Atlanta series and the egregious call on Al Horford in game 6? One where the NBA actually admitted it was an error. :confusedshrug:
http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/2012/05/11/atlanta-hawks-nba-admits-blown-call-in-game-6/
Uh, because that series didn't involved the Miami Heat, right?
nathanjizzle
09-14-2012, 09:34 AM
i hate miami, but i hate officiating cry babies even more. grow some fuxin hatcheries.
Why don't you make a thread about the Boston/Atlanta series and the egregious call on Al Horford in game 6? One where the NBA actually admitted it was an error. :confusedshrug:
http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/2012/05/11/atlanta-hawks-nba-admits-blown-call-in-game-6/
Uh, because that series didn't involved the Miami Heat, right?
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pegasus
09-14-2012, 12:09 PM
Why don't you make a thread about the Boston/Atlanta series and the egregious call on Al Horford in game 6? One where the NBA actually admitted it was an error. :confusedshrug:
http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/2012/05/11/atlanta-hawks-nba-admits-blown-call-in-game-6/
Uh, because that series didn't involved the Miami Heat, right?
Did the Celtics go on to win the championship?
Miami's games were just as badly officiated in the earlier rounds (see Knicks game 1; worst of the season), and the uncalled unsportsmanlike call on Wade in the Pacers series. He should have been tossed out and suspended one game.
So don't act like Boston had it coming because of the Hawks series; the Heat were favored all the way to the chip, including the finals (see games 2-4; late 4th quarters).
FinishHim!
09-14-2012, 12:25 PM
They had 47 FT's to Boston's 29. And some BS call's lead to their 2nd best player (Pierce) as well as key role guys like Pietrus and Dooling getting fouled out. Game 2 of the 2012 ECF I don't remember ever being so pissed at the end of a game. And this coming from a die hard Boston fan who remembers clear as day the game 7 loss to the Lakers. I was pissed and heartbroken that they lost, but I had no questions about whether or not the NBA decided the outcome of that series.
The Heat are always going to get the 50/50 calls, especially in cruch time. That's just the landscape. Teams need to be cognizant of that and act accordingly. You need to build a lead and hold it, not make unforced mistakes, not beat yourself. That's how Dallas won the title in '11.
I completely agree. When I watch Miami now, I just expect bad calls, and it's part of the package. It was the same with the 90's Bulls, 80's Lakers, and 80's Celtics. Great teams get all the calls.
I was super-pissed for that series. James gets me mad, but I get it, he's a superstar, and if he changes direction from a bump in mid-air, then it's a foul. To alter LeBron's movements, it has to be a hard foul. He gets just calls, but he gets away with a lot on defense. Bosh is a hard-worker, and I have always respected his game, no matter how flaky he seemed in Toronto.
Wade gets away with murder on both ends though. He is the first player that I wish injury upon. The way he plays is a disgrace. I don't want him to be injured while on the Heat, because I want to beat them fair and square. I wish they would trade him for a similar level talent and then he gets injured for his career, and we beat the Heat with their 3 stars. I'll be the first to admit, I'm a huge Wade hater. I don't like a lot of players, but I respect them and their respective games, like Kobe, Cousins, Chris Paul, Zach Randolph, Tony Parker, Anderson Varejao etc. I have no respect for Wade's style of play, or his personality. If I were a ref, I'd be all over Wade, and throw him out for flailing his arms, rolling on the floor, pouting, wrecklessly and aimlessly into defenders.
CavaliersFTW
09-14-2012, 01:16 PM
I completely agree. When I watch Miami now, I just expect bad calls, and it's part of the package. It was the same with the 90's Bulls, 80's Lakers, and 80's Celtics. Great teams get all the calls.
I was super-pissed for that series. James gets me mad, but I get it, he's a superstar, and if he changes direction from a bump in mid-air, then it's a foul. To alter LeBron's movements, it has to be a hard foul. He gets just calls, but he gets away with a lot on defense. Bosh is a hard-worker, and I have always respected his game, no matter how flaky he seemed in Toronto.
Wade gets away with murder on both ends though. He is the first player that I wish injury upon. The way he plays is a disgrace. I don't want him to be injured while on the Heat, because I want to beat them fair and square. I wish they would trade him for a similar level talent and then he gets injured for his career, and we beat the Heat with their 3 stars. I'll be the first to admit, I'm a huge Wade hater. I don't like a lot of players, but I respect them and their respective games, like Kobe, Cousins, Chris Paul, Zach Randolph, Tony Parker, Anderson Varejao etc. I have no respect for Wade's style of play, or his personality. If I were a ref, I'd be all over Wade, and throw him out for flailing his arms, rolling on the floor, pouting, wrecklessly and aimlessly into defenders.
And now we've got guys like 260lb Flakey Flippin copying this arrogant style of play, flopping at all costs no matter how dangerous to himself or the other players or even the crowd. Wasn't there a situation where he resorted to "uncontrollably" spear-tackling some women and children in the front row just for a whistle? :facepalm
http://imgc.allpostersimages.com/images/P-473-488-90/52/5281/OK5IG00Z/posters/stephen-los-angeles-lakers-v-los-angeles-clippers-blake-griffin-matt-barnes-and-ron-artest.jpg
http://youtu.be/jdUJuUD8w98
D-Wade and Flake should be fined and suspended for playing like this in professional basketball :no:
TheCorporation
09-14-2012, 03:38 PM
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White girls and gang signs?
HurricaneKid
09-14-2012, 04:52 PM
This thread is great. Still chewing on those sour grapes months later.
Game 2 was bad but Boston and their jumpshooting slowpokes who were bottom 10 in the NBA in FTAs shot more FTs than Miami over the next 4 games (until LBJ broke them).
funnystuff
09-14-2012, 05:19 PM
If Bosh played the whole series, it would of been over in 5 and Celtics fans wouldn't be crying about how close it was.
JohnnySic
09-14-2012, 05:51 PM
This is as good a place as any to post this:
http://www.sportsmemes.net/pics/605.jpg
Horde of Temujin
12-23-2013, 03:45 AM
Bump
Horde of Temujin
12-23-2013, 03:48 AM
I have no problem with how the Heat won in 2013, everybody needs some luck.
Lebron23
12-23-2013, 04:09 AM
If Bosh played the whole series, it would of been over in 5 and Celtics fans wouldn't be crying about how close it was.
This
Heat with Bosh would have beaten the Celtics in 5 games.
poido123
12-23-2013, 04:11 AM
This
Heat with Bosh would have beaten the Celtics in 5 games.
Isn't this a whatif?
Then if you're going on the premise of whatif, then whatif the refs did in fact call that foul on wade and celtics go on to win game 2?
Lebron23
12-23-2013, 04:19 AM
Isn't this a whatif?
Then if you're going on the premise of whatif, then whatif the refs did in fact call that foul on wade and celtics go on to win game 2?
The better team won in this series. Lebron put an epic performance in Game 6 of the Eastern Conference Finals, and the Heat ended the Celtics Triumvirate in Game 7.
Heat beat a much superior team in the NBA with CB4.
maybeshewill13
12-23-2013, 04:31 AM
The better team won in this series. Lebron put an epic performance in Game 6 of the Eastern Conference Finals, and the Heat ended the Celtics Triumvirate in Game 7.
Heat beat a much superior team in the NBA with CB4.
Miami Cheat were gifted their first ring, first with the series against Boston then against the Thunder in the finals. Most obvious reffing jobs since the early 2000's kings series. Second ring they JUST barely were saved by jesus Shuttlesworth. Lelbron should have 0 rings.
poido123
12-23-2013, 04:34 AM
The better team won in this series. Lebron put an epic performance in Game 6 of the Eastern Conference Finals, and the Heat ended the Celtics Triumvirate in Game 7.
Heat beat a much superior team in the NBA with CB4.
Didn't Boston have injuries too?
Wasn't Ray Allen limping around and a shadow of his damaging self?
Lebron23
12-23-2013, 05:39 AM
Didn't Boston have injuries too?
Wasn't Ray Allen limping around and a shadow of his damaging self?
But he still played in the first 5 games of the series.
poido123
12-23-2013, 05:41 AM
But he still played in the first 5 games of the series.
When you're injured and playing like shit as a star, it drags down your whole team.
A healthy Allen would of been the difference in that series, same whatf you give us with Bosh :confusedshrug:
BlackWhiteGreen
12-23-2013, 05:54 AM
When you're injured and playing like shit as a star, it drags down your whole team.
A healthy Allen would of been the difference in that series, same whatf you give us with Bosh :confusedshrug:
Or, you know, a healthy Jeff Green, a healthy Avery Bradley or a healthy Chris Wilcox. Both teams at 100% the Celtics really do make that a series
poido123
12-23-2013, 06:50 AM
Or, you know, a healthy Jeff Green, a healthy Avery Bradley or a healthy Chris Wilcox. Both teams at 100% the Celtics really do make that a series
Thankyou. My memory is fading as the years go by...
But of course, having no Bosh is the only variable here :rolleyes:
Kevin_Garnett_5
12-23-2013, 06:50 AM
Or, you know, a healthy Jeff Green, a healthy Avery Bradley or a healthy Chris Wilcox. Both teams at 100% the Celtics really do make that a series
Not to mention Pierce playing that series with a sprained MCL, Stiemsma plantar fasciitis, etc.
Horde of Temujin
02-28-2015, 09:16 PM
Bump
The blatant and horrible officiating of this game along with many others should never be forgotten.
Also, Rondooooooo!!! What happened!! He beasted this game.
D Wade is a great player but he is still a cheatin, whining, dirty player as well as a distateful human being
Rondo would have missed the free throws
zoom17
02-28-2015, 09:19 PM
Random ass bump.
aj1987
03-01-2015, 08:41 AM
Bump
The blatant and horrible officiating of this game along with many others should never be forgotten.
Also, Rondooooooo!!! What happened!! He beasted this game.
D Wade is a great player but he is still a cheatin, whining, dirty player as well as a distateful human being
Salty AF.
Eric Cartman
03-01-2015, 09:00 AM
Back when Rondo was a beast and not hot garbage.
Blue&Orange
03-01-2015, 09:08 AM
Anytime the 2012 NBA champs Miami Heat are mentioned the sham that was the 2012 ECF should be mentioned in the same breath.
Dude finals was the same thing, Durant getting pushed by Lebron, Bosh hammering Ibaka arms in close games.
Yes NBE wanted LEbron to have it's ring in 2012, but all pales in comparison with NBE gifting Lebron with 3 n
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