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AlphaWolf24
08-02-2012, 02:47 PM
- Hey everyone....I'm gonna go over some of the most popular "signature moves" in basketball history

In Basketball it's not always the "flashy" moves that make a player great...it's the small details...the little things that seperate great players from thier peers.

First up....

The Dream Shake

The #1 Factor in Dreams ability to do the dream shake was , his IQ of knowing /wanting to always decieve his opponent. ( He stated that playing soccer/futbol showed him the importance of tricking his defender even as far as changing his whole direction (go backwards) coupled with foot movement and head movement to try and get past)...the knowledge of trickery/deception/ and ability.

#2. His excellent Foot coordination....I think growing up playing soccer gave him a advantage with his foot speed/balance

he was a threat to quikly spin past .....

http://i39.tinypic.com/1zqge2b.gif

Forcing you to play off of him slightly......but not to much or he could easily rise up and get his shot...

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/Hakeem%20Olajuwon/z%20GIFs/2.gif

#3. You had to play him honest or he could shoot a 15' jumper consistently.


so with all that in his pocket....he knew how to decieve his opponent with Head' shoulder fakes...and use his pivot to spin.

example:Oliver Miller plays him close.....Hakeem spins.....Oliver is still on him....Hakeem uses a head and shoulder fake to act like he is going to reverese pivot (rise up and shoot)...but he doesn't...he continues inoriginal direction for a layup. 2 moves


http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/Hakeem%20Olajuwon/z%20GIFs/10.gif

Cliff Robinson (aftr bieng spun on many times...to go along with bieng risen on many times) Plays him Tight....hakeem fakes reverse pivot(great head and shoulder fake) turns into a fallaway J

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/Hakeem%20Olajuwon/z%20GIFs/4.gif

and Finally...the true version of a Dream Shake....

Hakeem catches it in the post ( has not established a Pivot) Spins to his left...jab steps (remember he can drive past you)...takes one dribble going right (cross step)...uses another fake with a head and shoulder (head moves with the shoulder to create an illusion of another reverse pivot)

comes back over his left shoulder for a easy/open 10' jumper

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/y%20Crazy%20Shot/z%20Comparison/z%20Dream%20Shake%20School/Kendrick%20Perkins/6.gif

all created by Tricking his opponent rather then using brute speed/force


:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

AlphaWolf24
08-02-2012, 03:07 PM
sorry the original post was incomplete...posted early:confusedshrug:

pauk
08-02-2012, 03:15 PM
Yup... according to me the greatest post player ever.

TheAesirsFinest
08-02-2012, 03:16 PM
Repped :cheers: That was a great read. Nice choice of gifs too - DRob completely lost on Hakeem's quick right spin :bowdown:

What other signature moves are up next?

Burgz V2
08-02-2012, 03:19 PM
the trick is every time you do a fake to make a two point stop so that the defender can't decide which is your pivot foot

from their its just reacting to how your defender plays you, its so simple its brilliant

Cali Syndicate
08-02-2012, 03:25 PM
That little jump stop he does makes it so much more difficult to defend his shake. Defenders get shook because they think he established a pivot when in fact he could actually go either way.

His footwork was amazing, was extremely quick and agile, had a nice touch on his jumpers and if need be could throw some power behind his dunks.

Easily my favorite center of all-time.

AlphaWolf24
08-02-2012, 03:58 PM
Repped :cheers: That was a great read. Nice choice of gifs too - DRob completely lost on Hakeem's quick right spin :bowdown:

What other signature moves are up next?


- Tim Hardaway's UTEP 2 step

- Kiki Vanderweigh's running/leaner floater

- LJ's Grandmama

- Roony's Euro step (first person I saw use it...Sarunas!!)

- Kobe pound pivot reverse

- Birds screen Rub fallaway J


some of my ideas....

suggestions welcome

waseem780
08-02-2012, 04:24 PM
- Tim Hardaway's UTEP 2 step

- Kiki Vanderweigh's running/leaner floater

- LJ's Grandmama

- Roony's Euro step (first person I saw use it...Sarunas!!)

- Kobe pound pivot reverse

- Birds screen Rub fallaway J


some of my ideas....

suggestions welcome

How about kareem skyhook?

bmd
08-02-2012, 04:38 PM
Allen Iverson's killer crossover

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/14/ai1s.gif/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/259/ai2.gif/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/717/ai3.gif/

Here is a whole article talking about his crossover:

http://www.nbahoop.org/crossover-ai-allen-iverson-xover.html

NugzHeat3
08-02-2012, 04:51 PM
I don't think there was a variation of the move.

I was always under the impression it was the move when he'd post up on the block, do a half spin, shoulder fake towards the middle and turn to the baseline for a fadeaway jumper. The description in this article, especially the visual, is perfect.

http://oi49.tinypic.com/25u719e.jpg

Examples in the gifs below, sorry for the terrible quality.

http://oi49.tinypic.com/dnetro.jpg

http://oi50.tinypic.com/kyb9j.jpg

http://oi48.tinypic.com/2e4ddnt.jpg

bmd
08-02-2012, 04:56 PM
I don't think there was a variation of the move.

I was always under the impression it was the move when he'd post up on the block (usually the left), do a half spin, shoulder fake towards the middle and turn to the baseline for a fadeaway jumper. The description in this article, especially the visual, is perfect.

http://oi49.tinypic.com/25u719e.jpg

Examples in the gifs below, sorry for the terrible quality.

http://s11.postimage.org/4d9xo9obl/shake1_o_GIFSoup_com2.gif

http://s17.postimage.org/nd8ubsucd/hakeem_o_GIFSoup_com.gif

http://s11.postimage.org/6o4s0toip/hakeem_seattle_43dream_shake_o.gifWhy are none of our gifs showing up?

NugzHeat3
08-02-2012, 04:58 PM
bmd, they're showing up fine to me.

Can anyone else confirm this?

I will upload from another site in that case.

IGotACoolStory
08-02-2012, 05:23 PM
The dream team thing shows, but the three images underneath don't (google chrome).

That last move on the op is so dirty. I can't imagine a defender playing that perfectly unless it comes from sheer luck of guessing.

NugzHeat3
08-02-2012, 05:29 PM
The dream team thing shows, but the three images underneath don't (google chrome).

That last move on the op is so dirty. I can't imagine a defender playing that perfectly unless it comes from sheer luck of guessing.
Thanks man. Updated.

Da KO King
08-02-2012, 05:32 PM
Well done sir!

Horde of Temujin
08-02-2012, 05:36 PM
Hakeem was so smooth. I don't care what anybody says, Hakeem was the best big man to play in the L.

Da KO King
08-02-2012, 05:49 PM
- Tim Hardaway's UTEP 2 step

- Kiki Vanderweigh's running/leaner floater

- LJ's Grandmama

- Roony's Euro step (first person I saw use it...Sarunas!!)

- Kobe pound pivot reverse

- Birds screen Rub fallaway J


some of my ideas....

suggestions welcome
Kiki's go-to move was the step-back not a floater.

SuperPippen
08-02-2012, 06:13 PM
Terrific and informative thread, AlphaWolf. You have shown multiple times that you are capable of being a thoughtful, informative poster, so I don't know why you choose to squander so much of your posting potential with your inane Kobe trolling.

Anyway, it's fascinating how much technique goes into these moves. Nice GIFs, and I hope you do more of these types of threads.

Pushxx
08-02-2012, 06:26 PM
McHale and Hakeem had the best post moves in NBA history.

Horatio33
08-02-2012, 06:29 PM
- Tim Hardaway's UTEP 2 step

- Kiki Vanderweigh's running/leaner floater

- LJ's Grandmama

- Roony's Euro step (first person I saw use it...Sarunas!!)

- Kobe pound pivot reverse

- Birds screen Rub fallaway J


some of my ideas....

suggestions welcome

That was MJ's before it was Kobe's. MJ probably took it from someone else.

Kareeem skyhook.
Iverson crossover.
McHale swinging gate.
Steve Smith baseline move (was like a Jedi Mind Trick)
Rasheed unblockable fallaway.
Shaq Black Tornado.

AlphaWolf24
08-02-2012, 06:54 PM
Kiki's go-to move was the step-back not a floater.


During his prime Kiki was excellent at doing a change of direction move (not quite a hard crossover...but almost an in and out dribble) followed by a Running floater.

later in his career he did shoot more step back J's....he even said he liked to attack off the drible early...but as he got older he had to settle for Jumpers.

the video doesn't really do it justice...but Kiki used to be able to slightly fake/hesitate off the dribble and get past his defender >>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=vwh6MRAJIU0#t=3036s<< not really a great example but best I could find right now.

I remember him more for this then shooting step backs...although you are right , his Jumper was his go to move late in his career.

Nevaeh
08-02-2012, 07:07 PM
Terrific and informative thread, AlphaWolf. You have shown multiple times that you are capable of being a thoughtful, informative poster, so I don't know why you choose to squander so much of your posting potential with your inane Kobe trolling.

Anyway, it's fascinating how much technique goes into these moves. Nice GIFs, and I hope you do more of these types of threads.

Reality is starting to set in for the old man. He's finally seeing how big of a damn fool he was looking, and is now "letting go". At some point you just gotta leave certain trends to the kids.
:oldlol:

Da KO King
08-02-2012, 07:16 PM
I remember him more for this then shooting step backs...although you are right , his Jumper was his go to move late in his career.
KiKi was WAY better than the "average fan" remembers.

I remember the step-back more personally. I started to really experiment with basketball in the late-80s. Growing up that time in NYC everybody I was learning the game from was using that move.

God I loved that move. More than the technique it was a great move to teach because the "theory" and reads of the move are so easy to grasp. Attack the rim, if the defender shoulder is on your inside foot then step back and away. Counter is just as simple. On your step-back when your back foot hits the ground if the defender hands are down then elevate and shoot; if their hands up then give a slight head fake and attack the hoop again.

AlphaWolf24
08-02-2012, 07:19 PM
How about kareem skyhook?

will add..

Da KO King
08-02-2012, 07:20 PM
During his prime Kiki was excellent at doing a change of direction move (not quite a hard crossover...but almost an in and out dribble) followed by a Running floater.
Just thought about this but I grew up with him on the same team as Mark Jackson, so Kiki's floater likely got over-shadowed by Jax teardrop.

NugzHeat3
08-02-2012, 08:05 PM
Some more Hakeem stuff showcasing his creativity as well as footwork and quickness.

http://www.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs2/1468239_o.gif

^Quick turn to the baseline losing his defender and the ball fake to send him flying.

http://oi55.tinypic.com/4vixb9.jpg

^Goes middle, defender can't help but think he's going for the jump hook and simply uses a counter move by stepping through.

http://www.gifsoup.com/view/107753/hakeem-o.gif

http://gifsoup.com/view1/3036642/fake-o.gif

^Quick baseline spin, ball fake to elude the first defender, pivots, pump fakes to juke the second defender and creates an easy lay up opportunity.

http://gifsoup.com/view7/4005250/hakeem-robinson-o.gif

^Gif titled "David Robinson doesn't learn his lesson." Same move, baseline spin off the contact followed by the ball fake.

http://gifsoup.com/view3/4004842/hakeem-philly-o.gif

^Same move as above on Theo Ratliff instead.

MisterAmazing
08-02-2012, 09:05 PM
- Tim Hardaway's UTEP 2 step

- Kiki Vanderweigh's running/leaner floater

- LJ's Grandmama

- Roony's Euro step (first person I saw use it...Sarunas!!)

- Kobe pound pivot reverse

- Birds screen Rub fallaway J


some of my ideas....

suggestions welcome

Great Post

Can Shaq's jump hook get some love? It was his go-to move in the paint and it was pretty unstoppable. There's also the Shaw-Shaq redemption http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gESt6LJjdt0&feature=related

Also Rondo's behind the back fake pass.

swi7ch
08-02-2012, 09:08 PM
GOAT Center

If you don't believe me, name a weakness. Thank you.

QuebecBaller
08-02-2012, 09:10 PM
http://notqualifiedtocomment.com/wp-content/uploads/the-walker-shimmy.jpg

:lol :lol :lol

swi7ch
08-02-2012, 09:10 PM
suggestions welcome

MJ's fadeaway.

IGotACoolStory
08-02-2012, 09:23 PM
No love for the Iceman's finger roll?

Jordan, Dirk, KG, Sheed, Kobe fadeaway...

Manu eurostep.

Pierce stepback

Duncan bank shot... Has he used them recently? I feel like I'm seeing less of them. Which is weird since he's gotten older and one would think he would have to use them more often.

Melo jab step.

Parker teardrop.

Whatever that shit Jamal Crawford does on fastbreaks.

Magic no look pass.

Hands of Iron
08-02-2012, 09:38 PM
GOAT Center

If you don't believe me, name a weakness. Thank you.

Well, I mean.. that's difficult. There are certainly a handful of other Centers who can lay claim to the greater accomplishments on paper but I'd agree that Hakeem was the most complete and arguably best ever on the court and as it pertains to his skills. Olajuwon could be counted upon to create his own shots and close games as a perimeter star would, and wasn't a liability at the free throw line.

Re: Accomplishments, I made this short case for him yesterday:
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7629387&postcount=78

OldSchoolBBall
08-02-2012, 10:07 PM
I wonder what Hakeem's wingspan was? He seems like he had really long arms.

eliteballer
08-02-2012, 10:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em6mdoB9p2s&t=0m55s

Hands of Iron
08-02-2012, 10:27 PM
Hakeem Olajuwon Scoring Skills:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7tPZ-KljR0

Take note of how many Very Good-to-Great defenders make an appearance in these clips, some of them on multiple occasions.

unbreakable
08-03-2012, 12:31 AM
first move is a blatant fukkin travel. :facepalm

riseagainst
08-03-2012, 10:16 AM
:applause:

NugzHeat3
08-03-2012, 01:53 PM
OP, you might find this interesting considering you're looking to continue this project with other signature moves.

From SI weekly issue 16/3/1998. Top 5 moves in the NBA.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/features/1998/weekly/980316/5bestmoves.html

1. Hakeem Olajuwon's Dream Shake
2. Michael Jordan's Fadeaway
3. Allen Iverson's and Tim Hardaway's Crossovers
4. Steve Smith's Fake Spin
5. Shaquille O'Neal's Drop Step

There's also a nice piece on the past and the future if you scroll down the page showcasing some unique moves of the old school players + the future generation.

You have the Magic no look pass, Monroe's spin move, Erving's behind-the-basket drives, Grant Hill's stutter, hesitation dribble, ect.

Smoke117
08-03-2012, 01:57 PM
OP, you might find this interesting considering you're looking to continue this project with other signature moves.

From SI weekly issue 16/3/1998. Top 5 moves in the NBA.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/features/1998/weekly/980316/5bestmoves.html

1. Hakeem Olajuwon's Dream Shake
2. Michael Jordan's Fadeaway
]3. Allen Iverson's and Tim Hardaway's Crossovers
4. Steve Smith's Fake Spin
5. Shaquille O'Neal's Drop Step

There's also a nice piece on the past and the future if you scroll down the page showcasing some unique moves of the old school players + the future generation.

You have the Magic no look pass, Monroe's spin move, Erving's behind-the-basket drives, Grant Hill's stutter, hesitation dribble, ect.

That wasn't a signature move, but a signature illegal carry over.

NugzHeat3
08-03-2012, 02:00 PM
That wasn't a signature move, but a signature illegal carry over.
It still made the list though despite people being aware its a carry.

AlphaWolf24
08-03-2012, 04:37 PM
OP, you might find this interesting considering you're looking to continue this project with other signature moves.

From SI weekly issue 16/3/1998. Top 5 moves in the NBA.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/features/1998/weekly/980316/5bestmoves.html

1. Hakeem Olajuwon's Dream Shake
2. Michael Jordan's Fadeaway
3. Allen Iverson's and Tim Hardaway's Crossovers
4. Steve Smith's Fake Spin
5. Shaquille O'Neal's Drop Step

There's also a nice piece on the past and the future if you scroll down the page showcasing some unique moves of the old school players + the future generation.

You have the Magic no look pass, Monroe's spin move, Erving's behind-the-basket drives, Grant Hill's stutter, hesitation dribble, ect.


thanks for the link...

few thoughts..

The article left a couple things out ( that I will touch on as I cover the moves)

#1. The "Crossover" , Tim's and Allens are both a change of direction....but they are very different.

Hardaway starts by putting the ball between his legs...once the ball passes through into his off hand he throws a shoulder roll (almost like a boxer) and steps.

Iverson never puts the ball through his legs....he changes levels to take a hard dribble....then passes the ball in front of his body to the other hand..

I will touch on this move when I do Hardaway....both were changing direction moves...but vastly different..



also.."shaq's drop step"..the writer must have been to young to watch Mchale....as clearly Kevin Mchale mastered the drop step better then anyone..

Mchale could drop his pivot so tight , defenders would literally get trapped and many times fall forward tripping...Mchale was tru master of the post

01amberfirewv
08-16-2012, 09:46 AM
Great thread, glad it got bumped.

How about one of my favorites Magic's carryover

Anaximandro1
08-16-2012, 11:33 AM
If I had to pick a center [for an all-time best team], I would take Olajuwon... He always made great decisions on the court. For all facets of the game, I have to give it to him.”

What can you say?

Olajuwon at the peak of his powers is the best big man of modern era.He is the best defender and to top it off,he is utterly unstoppable,something that neither Duncan nor Shaq can claim: while Rasheed Wallace was Duncan stopper,the Spurs were Shaq's kryptonite.

chips93
08-16-2012, 11:43 AM
Duncan bank shot... Has he used them recently? I feel like I'm seeing less of them. Which is weird since he's gotten older and one would think he would have to use them more often.

he gets a lot less touches on the low block, where he can shoot that banker, and he gets more open jumpers off of pick and pops at the top of the key, because parker is just such a monster on the high pick and roll

i think thats why we see less bankers from timmy

3ball
09-19-2019, 05:36 PM
Hakeem stole the dream shake from MJ, who had used it since his rookie year

Uncle Drew
09-19-2019, 05:48 PM
Thomas Edison stole the invention of the light bulb from MJ, who had it all planned more than 50 years before being conceived.

AirBonner
09-19-2019, 05:49 PM
Hakeem stole the dream shake from MJ, who had used it since his rookie year
:wtf: :roll:

SouBeachTalents
09-19-2019, 06:00 PM
The Wright brothers also stole the invention of the airplane from MJ, who had planned out man made flight over 60 years before his conception

RRR3
09-19-2019, 06:02 PM
Einstein stole the Theory of Relativity from MJ’s lab notes, which he had written over half a century before he was born.

3ball
09-19-2019, 06:21 PM
:wtf: :roll:



1990 MJ, shredding Lewis in 2 secs.. imagine lebron doing this.. never.. :oldlol::

https://i.makeagif.com/media/8-05-2015/2KuKjd.gif


Rookie MJ:

https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-19-2019/b5htGo.gif



I give Hakeem props though for doing it at 7 feet

jlip
09-19-2019, 06:28 PM
Hakeem stole the dream shake from MJ, who had used it since his rookie year

This level of trolling is ban worthy.

3ball
09-19-2019, 06:53 PM
This level of trolling is ban worthy.
How am.i trolling when it's a historical fact that MJ was doing the move long before Hakeem?

3ball
09-19-2019, 07:18 PM
It's no different then Elgin Baylor doing eurosteps back in the 60's:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YAEPA-_ulPE

Round Mound
09-19-2019, 10:23 PM
1990 MJ, shredding Lewis in 2 secs.. imagine lebron doing this.. never.. :oldlol::

https://i.makeagif.com/media/8-05-2015/2KuKjd.gif


Rookie MJ:

https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-19-2019/b5htGo.gif



I give Hakeem props though for doing it at 7 feet

Hakeem was more like 6'10 than a 7footer. He is the most skilled center i've ever seen. No Barkley signature moves? Barkley used to have one of the best spin moves in the NBA and they the precusors of Shaq's black tornados.