CJ Miles agrees to two-year contract with the Cleveland Cavaliers

[PleezeBelieve]

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/blogsjazznotes/54624285-62/cleveland-cavaliers-source-free.html.csp


Kyrie
D-Wait
Miles
Varejao
Zeller

Boobie
Gee
Tristan
Lauer


Is this a playoff team in the East?

[DuMa]

spurned the Lakers :oldlol:

[KG215]

Well, they'll have the best backcourt in the NBA, so I don't see why not.

[Batz]

As a Lakers fan, I'm incredibly relieved.

[drizzy0503]

Oh lawwd, if there was a Cleveland-Miami playoffs series....

Dat drama.:bowdown: :bowdown:

[PJR]

Oh lawwd, if there was a Cleveland-Miami playoffs series....

Dat drama.:bowdown: :bowdown:

Dat sweep.

[Chalkmaze]

Looks like they are trying to build via the draft, while developing and giving experience to the young prospects, at the same time.

[Rowe]

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/blogsjazznotes/54624285-62/cleveland-cavaliers-source-free.html.csp


Kyrie
D-Wait
Miles
Varejao
Zeller

Boobie
Gee
Tristan
Lauer


Is this a playoff team in the East?
Absolutely not.

Miles is a good signing.

Will be funny to see him & Boobie Gibson as teammates after Miles was supposed to be the missing piece to make Texas a Final Four team.

[DukeDelonte13]

Absolutely not.

Miles is a good signing.

Will be funny to see him & Boobie Gibson as teammates after Miles was supposed to be the missing piece to make Texas a Final Four team.


I'd say its a maybe not. Cleveland was knocking on the door last year before Andy V. missed half the season.

[GoRapz]

If this is a playoff team in the east the Raptors are going to be a top seed

[Rowe]

I'd say its a maybe not. Cleveland was knocking on the door last year before Andy V. missed half the season.

Not saying that as anything to put down Cleveland because they have a bright future, but I don't see how that team makes the Playoffs. It is still Kyrie Irving and no established 2nd or 3rd option unless you're relying on 2 rookies to fill that role immediately.

It probably is in their best interest to tank after the All Star break to get their "core" out on the floor together so they see how Kyrie/Waiters/Tristan/Zeller look on the floor as a unit and evaluate how a high draft pick will help them. Maybe even trade Varejao while his value is at its highest to get back some more pieces for their rebuilding process.

[GOBB]

Miami
NYK
Boston
BKN
Indiana

5 teams that will definately make the playoffs.

Chicago - no Derrick Rose
Orlando - Dwight Howard drama?
Philly - More quality depth, lost veteran prescence/leader

3 teams that made playoffs but have some question marks. Orlando being the biggest question mark because if Dwight Howard is traded? Chances are it'll be a rebuilding roster. If he stays just even til trade deadline? They win games by default.

Wash

1 teams that is talented and could make a legitimate push to the postseason. Wash adding some veterans in Ariza/Okafor and throw in Nene. They got rid of the dumb, in with some smart guys who know their role. Could John Wall emerge?


I dont see where the Cavs fit in any of this unless injuries occur.

[jbryan1984]

I would like one more year of sucking, then get our feet wet in the playoffs. Also, lineup will probably be more like.........

Kyrie
Waiters
Miles
Tristan
Andy

Boobie, Casspi, Zeller, Samuels and Sloan will be the main bench rotation.

[LBJMVP]

great signing!!!

for some reason i always liked cj miles.

he can come in an be a veteran on this team, yet he is so young that he will fit in as well.

[ImmortalD24]

:(

[AK47DR91]

First it was drafting Dion Waiters, now it's signing CJ Miles.

In 4 years, Kyrie Irving will have his own "Decision" special. :oldlol:

[longtime lurker]

Wow Lakers dodged a bullet there.

[knickballer]

Far from a playoff team imo. Nobody on that squad can take the scoring load off Irving. Waiters and Zeller are both rookies and probably both will struggle(Waiters can very well be a bust). Who's their #2 option? Anderson Varejao? :rolleyes:

I didn't like their recent draft history besides Irving and Zeller. Imagine if they drafted Jonas V and Harrison Barnes instead..

Kyrie
??
Barnes
Varejao
Jonas V

much better lineup and a much better future. Thompson and Waiters both look like busts to me imo

[LBJMVP]

Far from a playoff team imo. Nobody on that squad can take the scoring load off Irving. Waiters and Zeller are both rookies and probably both will struggle(Waiters can very well be a bust). Who's their #2 option? Anderson Varejao? :rolleyes:

I didn't like their recent draft history besides Irving and Zeller. Imagine if they drafted Jonas V and Harrison Barnes instead..

Kyrie
??
Barnes
Varejao
Jonas V

much better lineup and a much better future. Thompson and Waiters both look like busts to me imo


jonas V could very well be a bust

and i believe ISH was split 50/50 on whether Barnes will be good or be the next marvin williams


what we do know is that in chad fords redraft of the 2011 draft kyrie went number 1 and thompson went number 2....

and ever scout gave cleveland a great grade on this years draft.

[FreezingTsmoove]

Well, they'll have the best backcourt in the NBA, so I don't see why not.

you best be joking

[DukeDelonte13]

Far from a playoff team imo. Nobody on that squad can take the scoring load off Irving. Waiters and Zeller are both rookies and probably both will struggle(Waiters can very well be a bust). Who's their #2 option? Anderson Varejao? :rolleyes:

I didn't like their recent draft history besides Irving and Zeller. Imagine if they drafted Jonas V and Harrison Barnes instead..

Kyrie
??
Barnes
Varejao
Jonas V

much better lineup and a much better future. Thompson and Waiters both look like busts to me imo

Cause Jonas is really showing how spectacular he is during these olympics :rolleyes: The hype of Jonas is just unreal.

I'd take TT over Kanter and Derrick Williams. Waiters and Barnes haven't played a NBA game yet so the jury is still out. Waiters came off an ankle injury into summer league and was obviously out of shape. And how is TT exactly a bust?

[Kurosawa0]

Probably not a playoff team. Miami, Boston, Indiana, New York, New Jersey and Philly should all certainly be better. Chicago is questionable because of Rose's injury, but I think they'll still make it in. Cleveland probably fights it out with Atlanta, Milwaukee, Washington and maybe Toronto for the final spot, but even if they could make the playoffs, would you want them to?

I'd want another high pick.

[PleezeBelieve]

I would like one more year of sucking, then get our feet wet in the playoffs. Also, lineup will probably be more like.........

Kyrie
Waiters
Miles
Tristan
Andy

Boobie, Casspi, Zeller, Samuels and Sloan will be the main bench rotation.
Varejao is not a NBA starting center. How many times must he get injured before you realise this?

[KeyNote]

As a Lakers fan, I'm incredibly relieved.

This.

[Xiao Yao You]

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/blogsjazznotes/54624285-62/cleveland-cavaliers-source-free.html.csp


Kyrie
D-Wait
Miles
Varejao
Zeller

Boobie
Gee
Tristan
Lauer


Is this a playoff team in the East?

Spunds like maybe it was either Gee or CJ not both. They have a shot. They looked good to start last year and they play in the east. Well coached team with a star has a chance.

[chips93]

First it was drafting Dion Waiters, now it's signing CJ Miles.

In 4 years, Kyrie Irving will have his own "Decision" special. :oldlol:


yup

giving cj miles a two year deal will definitely drive irving out of cleveland

:rolleyes:

try not to be such a retard in the future

[bagelred]

It's a good thing CJ Miles didn't sign with the Raptors. He'd have to change his name to CJ Kilometers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcYppAs6ZdI

[AirTupac]

It's a good thing CJ Miles didn't sign with the Raptors. He'd have to change his name to CJ Kilometers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcYppAs6ZdI


http://i.imgur.com/e56a3.gif%20

[b1imtf]

It's a good thing CJ Miles didn't sign with the Raptors. He'd have to change his name to CJ Kilometers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcYppAs6ZdI
Future neg

[chips93]

It's a good thing CJ Miles didn't sign with the Raptors. He'd have to change his name to CJ Kilometers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcYppAs6ZdI


http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy303/jambas_fav_things/GIFS%202/20hvgr6.gif

[Batz]

It's a good thing CJ Miles didn't sign with the Raptors. He'd have to change his name to CJ Kilometers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcYppAs6ZdI
Well I laughed... :oldlol:

[RedBlackAttack]

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/blogsjazznotes/54624285-62/cleveland-cavaliers-source-free.html.csp


Kyrie
D-Wait
Miles
Varejao
Zeller

Boobie
Gee
Tristan
Lauer


Is this a playoff team in the East?
I'd bet that Gee will start over Miles. In fact, I wouldn't be shocked if Miles began the season as the starter at the 2 until Dion gets his feet wet. Also, Tristan will be starting this season. You can bank on that.

I like this signing. It seems that CJ really wanted to play for Byron Scott from everything I'm reading, which is a good sign. Scott is a taskmaster, so I hope CJ is ready. Then again, he played under Jerry Sloan for years, so...


Anyway, the particulars on this deal haven't been released yet. I'm assuming we didn't give up much, so I think this is a nice step. You always like to add young talent when possible. Miles certainly has talent.

[RedBlackAttack]

Far from a playoff team imo. Nobody on that squad can take the scoring load off Irving. Waiters and Zeller are both rookies and probably both will struggle(Waiters can very well be a bust). Who's their #2 option? Anderson Varejao? :rolleyes:

I didn't like their recent draft history besides Irving and Zeller. Imagine if they drafted Jonas V and Harrison Barnes instead..

Kyrie
??
Barnes
Varejao
Jonas V

much better lineup and a much better future. Thompson and Waiters both look like busts to me imo
Oh yes... Just imagine if, instead of the two unproven guys that we currently have on the roster, one of which hasn't played a single game in the NBA, we had two different unproven guys on the roster, neither of whom have played a single NBA game yet.

Just think of it!


This team is loaded with young talent. We'll see how these guys perform together. Calling out the Cavs before you've even seen the product that they've put together seems a little ridiculous to me.


Btw, I'm hearing the deal is 2 years starting at $2.5 million. Not bad.

[NattyPButter]

I would like one more year of sucking, then get our feet wet in the playoffs. Also, lineup will probably be more like.........

Kyrie
Waiters
Miles
Tristan
Andy

Boobie, Casspi, Zeller, Samuels and Sloan will be the main bench rotation.

lolz...no way. Kyrie, Waiters, nor Miles will be able to drive in the paint with TT and Andy there. They will have to start someone at the 4 that can stretch the floor and TT can't do that.

[sixer6ad]

All joking aside, this is a very solid signing for Cleveland. Not an earth-shattering, contending-making signing - BUT VERY SOLID.

Miles has been very steady most of his career and has been especially good against us. This is a player who has had some big NBA games. He has a career high of 40 points.

On top of that, NBA free agents who have the chance to sign with the Lakers or the Mavs or the....and sign with us? That just doesn't happen. And then I read that he did so for a little less money and because of recent time he spent with Byron Scott? Laker fan on here thankful that they didn't sign him only say that because they are used to signing stars.

Adding Miles is a solid piece to the plan. Saturday is off to a good start.

[chips93]

lolz...no way. Kyrie, Waiters, nor Miles will be able to drive in the paint with TT and Andy there. They will have to start someone at the 4 that can stretch the floor and TT can't do that.


like who?

maybe start andy at the four, and zeller at 5?

i think we gotta give tristan big minutes, and start him, spacing be damned. we arent trying to win this year, we gotta be trying t develop for the future.

[jbot]

he should get plenty of minutes. decent signing.

[Xiao Yao You]

All joking aside, this is a very solid signing for Cleveland. Not an earth-shattering, contending-making signing - BUT VERY SOLID.

Miles has been very steady most of his career

He has?


On top of that, NBA free agents who have the chance to sign with the Lakers or
the Mavs or the....and sign with us? That just doesn't happen. And then I read
that he did so for a little less money and because of recent time he spent with
Byron Scott? Laker fan on here thankful that they didn't sign him only say that
because they are used to signing stars.

He talked to the Lakers and Mavs. Doesn't mean they offered him a contract.

[joshwake]

All joking aside, this is a very solid signing for Cleveland. Not an earth-shattering, contending-making signing - BUT VERY SOLID.

Miles has been very steady most of his career and has been especially good against us. This is a player who has had some big NBA games. He has a career high of 40 points.

On top of that, NBA free agents who have the chance to sign with the Lakers or the Mavs or the....and sign with us? That just doesn't happen. And then I read that he did so for a little less money and because of recent time he spent with Byron Scott? Laker fan on here thankful that they didn't sign him only say that because they are used to signing stars.

Adding Miles is a solid piece to the plan. Saturday is off to a good start.
You are overrating CJ. He is extremely inconsistent. His defense is average at best. The only upside is that there is a possibility he can break out, especially on a team like the Cavs. He is still pretty young. But if you get the CJ we have seen for the past 7 years, you will be dissapointed. I hope he does well though, but I just don't see it.

[Meticode]

I'm glad we obtained him. I was hoping we would so Casspi would get buried on the bench further. What it's looking right now...

Kyrie Irving/Jeremy Pargo
Dion Waiters/Boobie Gibson
Alonzo Gee/C.J. Miles
Tristan Thompson/Sarmardo Samuels
Anderson Varajeo/Tyler Zeller

Some other players...

Jon Lauer
Kelenna Azubuike
Omar Casspi
Kevin Jones

...I hope Kevin Jones makes the team.

[bagelred]

Well I laughed... :oldlol:

Of course you did. :cheers:

[sixer6ad]

You are overrating CJ. He is extremely inconsistent. His defense is average at best. The only upside is that there is a possibility he can break out, especially on a team like the Cavs. He is still pretty young. But if you get the CJ we have seen for the past 7 years, you will be dissapointed. I hope he does well though, but I just don't see it.

If you are right, it will be like water off a duck's back for us Cleveland fans. Anymore, we're just calloused to it. Hell...I've been watching Johnny Damon in left field all spring and summer.

I'm optimistic because he has had a season of 12 ppg and he does have an NBA high of 40. His ppg over a 36 mpg situation is 15.6. I like two things about him: his energy and his athleticism. He has played hard when I've watched the Jazz - to the point where I noticed him.

Let's just keep it at "this is a better pickup than we are used to" and stop there.

[Xiao Yao You]

I'm glad we obtained him. I was hoping we would so Casspi would get buried on
the bench further. What it's looking right now...

Kyrie Irving/Jeremy
Pargo
Dion Waiters/Boobie Gibson
Alonzo Gee/C.J. Miles
Tristan
Thompson/Sarmardo Samuels
Anderson Varajeo/Tyler Zeller

Some other
players...

Jon Lauer
Kelenna Azubuike
Omar Casspi
Kevin
Jones

...I hope Kevin Jones makes the team.

Keleena is better than CJ if healthy. Casspi was better as a rookie than CJ has ever been too. I'd put Boobie at the one over Pargo. Lauer over Samuels.

[PleezeBelieve]

I think Zeller is a lock to start. Either Tristan or Varejao starts along side him. My guess is they start Varejao over Tristan until Andy is moved at the deadline.

[Meticode]

Keleena was better than CJ if healthy. Casspi was better as a rookie than CJ has ever been too. I'd put Boobie at the one over Pargo. Lauer over Samuels.
It's difficult to see how that is going to turn out. He pretty much missed all of last season and most of the season before because of a torn patella tendon.

[Meticode]

Keleena is better than CJ if healthy. Casspi was better as a rookie than CJ has ever been too. I'd put Boobie at the one over Pargo. Lauer over Samuels.
Casspi has never been better than C.J. to me. Casspi sucked as last season even though he got the chance to start and eventually got benched for Gee. Huge disappointment. Lauer over Samuels is understandable, but also Samuels played the best out of all the Cavaliers in the Summer League in-my-opinion.

[MikeBeas2]

if i was da gm i would trade him and varejew for a star and they would be good taem cuz irwing is gonna be a star

[RedBlackAttack]

Samardo has lost a bunch of weight and has put in serious time in the offseason to become a better player. I think he is going to surprise some people this year.

[Meticode]

if i was da gm i would trade him and varejew for a star and they would be good taem cuz irwing is gonna be a star
:biggums:

[chips93]

Some other players...

Jon Lauer
Kelenna Azubuike
Omar Casspi
Kevin Jones

...I hope Kevin Jones makes the team.

poor jon leuer. nobody will ever learn how to spell his name correctly :lol

[Noof]

:biggums:
He's got a point!

[Meticode]

poor jon leuer. nobody will ever learn how to spell his name correctly :lol
Sad part is...

I live in Wisconsin and he played for the Badgers and Bucks. :oldlol:

[RedBlackAttack]

He's got a point!
How are we going to get a star for Andy?

[Meticode]

How are we going to get a star for Andy?
Probably would have to include draft picks, or at least a good quality player that is a border-line star.

[RedBlackAttack]

Probably would have to include draft picks, or at least a good quality player that is a border-line star.
Which was my point that he really didn't have a point. If you have to include a bunch of draft picks, the picks actually become the cornerstone of the deal, not necessarily the player.

And, I love Anderson. He's been playing really well for Brazil, too. If he could play a complete season at the level he was at prior to his injury last year, THEN we could conceivably get something very nice in return.

I'd say the first thing, though, is him proving that he can stay healthy for a whole season while logging big minutes.

Anyway, back to CJ Miles... I think this was a very nice pickup, the more I think about it. A little over $2 million and a two year contract... even if he fizzles out, it is the kind of contract that won't stop us from doing anything we were going to do anyway. And he has lots of potential and is still young.

Love that move.

[Noof]

How are we going to get a star for Andy?
Beats me.

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

Casspi has never been better than C.J. to me. Casspi sucked as last season even though he got the chance to start and eventually got benched for Gee. Huge disappointment. Lauer over Samuels is understandable, but also Samuels played the best out of all the Cavaliers in the Summer League in-my-opinion.
it is unfortunate. Casspi has a lot of natural ability and skill. Not sure what the deal is, but same thing happened to him in Sac. And I thought he was the Kings' best overall player at the time when his mins were inconsistent and he ended up getting traded (could really do everything). He just wasn't consistent enough I guess. :confusedshrug:

As for Cavs, I like what they're doing. I don't see them making playoffs this year, but they'll be in the discussion. Ultimately, Kyrie + Waiters + Zeller + Tristan = playoff team in a few years if they all reach their full potential.

[Xiao Yao You]

it is unfortunate. Casspi has a lot of natural ability and skill. Not sure what the deal is, but same thing happened to him in Sac. And I thought he was the Kings' best overall player at the time when his mins were inconsistent and he ended up getting traded (could really do everything). He just wasn't consistent enough I guess. :confusedshrug:

As for Cavs, I like what they're doing. I don't see them making playoffs this year, but they'll be in the discussion. Ultimately, Kyrie + Waiters + Zeller + Tristan = playoff team in a few years if they all reach their full potential.

Irving and almost anyone should be a playoff team before long especially in the east.