Shooting at Sikh Temple Oak Creek, Wisconsin

[ImmortalD24]

Just outside Milwaukee.. on CNN right now. :wtf:

[Scholar]

Damn, just switched from the Olympics to CNN because of this thread. :eek:

[Celtics4ever]

I have Sikh friends and they are the most peaceful people and respectful people I know. Their religion is very peaceful too. They believe every religion believes in one god. Sikhs are often confused for Muslims because they wear turbans as well.

This is a hate crime. Shows how ignorant some of us Americans are.

[KingBeasley08]

I have Sikh friends and they are the most peaceful people and respectful people I know. Their religion is very peaceful too. They believe every religion believes in one god. Sikhs are often confused for Muslims because they wear turbans as well.

This is a hate crime. Shows how ignorant some of us Americans are.
True. There's a Sikh family that lives right across the street and they are some of the nicest people I know. The turban is the reason why they usually get targeted even tho the 9/11 didn't have turbans :facepalm

[DonDadda59]

Just the latest massacre, nothing to see here. If those peaceful Sikhs had a stockpile of semi-automatic weapons in their temple, this wouldn't have happened. You live, you learn.

[BigTicket]

I'm guessing this was some moron who thought they were muslims.

[Celtics4ever]

I'm guessing this was some moron who thought they were muslims.

I'm pretty sure he thought they were muslim. Not saying that if they were muslim it would make it right, but goes to show you how stupid some people are for doing something like this without knowing facts. The shooter got killed too.

[SourPatchKids]

Every Sikh person I have ever met has been extremely nice. I had one Sikh kid on my AAU team who doesn't have a very rich family so he didn't have all the basketball gear everyone else had(Elite socks, compression shorts, the latest Kobe's, etc). He didn't care though he was just there to ball and I admired his work ethic, he was always telling me to hit the gym and stuff. He also had a real chill dad, whenever my mom had work he would give me rides to tournaments and would always tell amusing stories like when he first came to the states and got a job at KFC.

[Meticode]

How do you pronounce it?

[SourPatchKids]

How do you pronounce it?
Seek

[Celtics4ever]

Every Sikh person I have ever met has been extremely nice. I had one Sikh kid on my AAU team who doesn't have a very rich family so he didn't have all the basketball gear everyone else had(Elite socks, compression shorts, the latest Kobe's, etc). He didn't care though he was just there to ball and I admired his work ethic, he was always telling me to hit the gym and stuff. He also had a real chill dad, whenever my mom had work he would give me rides to tournaments and would always tell amusing stories like when he first came to the states and got a job at KFC.

Yeah, they are all always very nice and helpful people. Especially the elders.

Too bad they get mistaken for being Muslims causing these hate crimes on them.

[KDTrey5]

terrorists.. this world is fkd

[bagelred]

FBI, AGAIN? They must be desperate.

[franchise#3]

7 dead :(

[Celtics4ever]

7 dead :(

That's messed up. 7 people lost their lives and several others injured(Including an officer) for an idiot who thought he was targeting Muslims.

[Loneshot]

terrorists.. this world is fkd

Its only terrorism if you're not white.

[SourPatchKids]

This just makes me Sikh.
Ba dum tsss

[JaggerCommaMick]

Mates, I cannot find a story that documents any evidence of religious or discriminatory motive. Can somebody link me please, chaps? Thanks.

[JaggerCommaMick]

This is a hate crime. Shows how ignorant some of us Americans are.

link, mate?

[yobore]

Mates, I cannot find a story that documents any evidence of religious or discriminatory motive. Can somebody link me please, chaps? Thanks.
it was probably just a good guess when he posted it but now they're saying it was a bald white guy in his thirties, so...

[dude77]

why are they calling this 'domestic terrorism' but not the colorado shooting ?

[Celtics4ever]

Mates, I cannot find a story that documents any evidence of religious or discriminatory motive. Can somebody link me please, chaps? Thanks.

On the news they say witness' saw a white male with tattoos and wearing all black. They FBI is treating it as a domestic terrorism, so it means some hate group did this crime.

[DonDadda59]

Its only terrorism if you're not white.

Something has to be done about the White terrorism epidemic in the U.S.

McVeigh, Columbine, Holmes, now this. When will Homeland Security start doing its job and help prevent these terrorist attacks? :confusedshrug:

[Celtics4ever]

why are they calling this 'domestic terrorism' but not the colorado shooting ?

Because this is obviously from a racial hate group who thought these people were muslims when they are a totally different religion.

[Patrick Chewing]

This is a hate crime. Shows how ignorant some of us Americans are.

Easy big fella

[JaggerCommaMick]

it was probably just a good guess when he posted it but now they're saying it was a bald white guy in his thirties, so...

So...what?


Mate, it may well have been a hate crime. There's quite literally no evidence of that whatsoever right now. We can just leap to the conclusion of hate crime, mate?

Like the conclusion George Zimmerman jumped to when he saw a black guy in a hoodie walking erratically in a neighborhood with a rash of recent home invasions?

It's ok for you to jump to a conclusion about a white guy, mate, but would you condone Zimmerman concluding something about a black guy? I'm just wondering.

[dude77]

Because this is obviously from a racial hate group who thought these people were muslims when they are a totally different religion.

and j holmes thought all those innocent people deserved to die for whatever reason and tried to kill as many of them as he could as they innocently sat watching a movie .. sounds like terrorism to me

[Celtics4ever]

So...what?


Mate, it may well have been a hate crime. There's quite literally no evidence of that whatsoever right now. We can just leap to the conclusion of hate crime, mate?

Like the conclusion George Zimmerman jumped to when he saw a black guy in a hoodie walking erratically in a neighborhood with a rash of recent home invasions?

It's ok for you to jump to a conclusion about a white guy, mate, but would you condone Zimmerman concluding something about a black guy? I'm just wondering.

They just said the temple was receiving racial threats for about a year.

[yobore]

So...what?


Mate, it may well have been a hate crime. There's quite literally no evidence of that whatsoever right now. We can just leap to the conclusion of hate crime, mate?

Like the conclusion George Zimmerman jumped to when he saw a black guy in a hoodie walking erratically in a neighborhood with a rash of recent home invasions?

It's ok for you to jump to a conclusion about a white guy, mate, but would you condone Zimmerman concluding something about a black guy? I'm just wondering.
we're concluding something about a white guy who just shot 12 people not a guy walking around the neighborhood. furthermore we're not doing anything about it, like you know, shooting him (already done)

I don't know why people are always trying to argue about things not being hate crimes, it doesn't make a difference either way. It's not like you're the one we're suspecting just because you're white.

[JaggerCommaMick]

Mates, your political correctness and double standards are turning your bloody nation upside down.

In the rare instances that minorities are victims and not perpetrators, there are suddenly no words to describe the injustice, the outrage, the frenzied, passionate outcry against bigotry. In the large majority of cases where the perps are minority, nobody better say a word about it, yeah?

Mates, it's like you care more about sensitivity and feelings than you do about CRIMES! Mates, minorities in your country (black and hispanic to be specific) have been skewing crime statistics like mad for decades now. You ignore the prisons packed to capacity and the news stories every single night about violence and murder, but you will be upset if someone like myself makes a post such as this? What a country. I tell ya what, mates.

[knickballer]

This just makes me Sikh.

:applause:

http://cdn.chud.com/2/2e/2efa7844_South-Park-nice.jpeg

[Celtics4ever]

and j holmes thought all those innocent people deserved to die for whatever reason and tried to kill as many of them as he could as they innocently sat watching a movie .. sounds like terrorism to me

That's insanity. What happened today was a hate crime on a religious group that the gunman didn't like, but the idiot targeted the wrong religion

[yobore]

Mates, your political correctness and double standards are turning your bloody nation upside down.

In the rare instances that minorities are victims and not perpetrators, there are suddenly no words to describe the injustice, the outrage, the frenzied, passionate outcry against bigotry. In the large majority of cases where the perps are minority, nobody better say a word about it, yeah?

Mates, it's like you care more about sensitivity and feelings than you do about CRIMES! Mates, minorities in your country (black and hispanic to be specific) have been skewing crime statistics like mad for decades now. You ignore the prisons packed to capacity and the news stories every single night about violence and murder, but you will be upset if someone like myself makes a post such as this? What a country. I tell ya what, mates.
:facepalm woops i spent a minute giving you a serious response.

[JaggerCommaMick]

we're concluding something about a white guy who just shot 12 people not a guy walking around the neighborhood. furthermore we're not doing anything about it, like you know, shooting him (already done)

I don't know why people are always trying to argue about things not being hate crimes, it doesn't make a difference either way. It's not like you're the one we're suspecting just because you're white.


Mate, Zimmerman didn't shoot the other guy because he was black either. He simply followed him and phoned the police because the guy was black, wearing a hoodie, and appeared to be walking strangely (which is believable as he was serving a school suspension for marijuana I recall, or at least had at some point). Zimmerman only shot him once the confrontation became physical.

Many people were outraged that Zimmerman profiled a man and jumped to a conclusion.

But it's ok to assume that because someone who shot a temple was bald and white, it's a hate crime? With no other evidence at all? That's a double standard, mate.

Let's all face the facts mates. When minorities commit crimes, everyone hates to be the one to accuse them, or to even acknowledge it happened. When a white person commits a crime, everyone wants to be the first to roast them. Minorities commit way more crimes though. Yet everyone just wants to be ol' Cap'n Progressive and defend the david (even misguidedly) and admonish the goliath (even misguidedly). There seems to be an obsession with being Robin Hood out there, mates. There's an obsession to be the nurse. To run to every bedside and stroke a man and breastfeed him. To go out in the forest and to jump in front of a deer and take a bullet for him from the hunters gun. What's wit all these lil pansies out there, mates? I don't bloody care if its a minority or a white person who does somethin, let's treat it all equal, yeah? If Zimmerman was wrong to jump to conclusions, so is Celtics Garlics. No?

[JaggerCommaMick]

:facepalm woops i spent a minute giving you a serious response.


Oh, I understand, mate. When minority communities are discriminated against, we can talk about it and get upset (which we should).

When they mess things up or cause problems in society, we can't (because you're a timid little vaginer).

Got it.

[dude77]

That's insanity. What happened today was a hate crime on a religious group that the gunman didn't like, but the idiot targeted the wrong religion

insanity ? two can play that game .. this guy in wisconsin was insane too .. his 'hate' was misdirected due to his mental illness .. got it ? :hammerhead:

the guy planned it for months .. went to shooting ranges to hone his skills and everything .. he knew exactly what he was doing .. he TERRORIZED an auditorium full of innocents in a local theater .. that's about as 'domestic terrorism' as you can get

[Celtics4ever]

insanity ? two can play that game .. this guy in wisconsin was insane too .. his 'hate' was misdirected due to his mental illness .. got it ? :hammerhead:

the guy planned it for months .. went to shooting ranges to hone his skills and everything .. he knew exactly what he was doing .. he TERRORIZED an auditorium full of innocents in a local theater .. that's about as 'domestic terrorism' as you can get

I know what you mean. I'm not saying what happened in the theatre wasn't domestic terrorism. All I am saying is what happened today at the Sikh temple is domestic terrorism.

[DonDadda59]

I can't even go to a movie theater or a place of worship without being in fear of one of these terrorist attacks happening :(

As Chris Rock said, 'I ain't scared of Al Qaeda, I'm scared of Al Cracka'.

[kentatm]

Mate, Zimmerman didn't shoot the other guy because he was black either. He simply followed him and phoned the police because the guy was black, wearing a hoodie, and appeared to be walking strangely (which is believable as he was serving a school suspension for marijuana I recall, or at least had at some point).


:facepalm


people who smoke pot don't walk suspiciously or strangely. WTF would ever make you think of something so dumb?

[kobron23]

:facepalm


people who smoke pot don't walk suspiciously or strangely. WTF would ever make you think of something so dumb?

:roll: :roll: :roll: thought the era of stupidity died with the egg scrambled brain commercials lmao

[Celtics4ever]

I can't even go to a movie theater or a place of worship without being in fear of one of these terrorist attacks happening :(

As Chris Rock said, 'I ain't scared of Al Qaeda, I'm scared of Al Cracka'.

+1

[bagelred]

I can't even go to a movie theater or a place of worship without being in fear of one of these terrorist attacks happening :(



The gov't will never stop until we have no freedoms left. But you can't really worry about it. Can't stop it.

[JaggerCommaMick]

I can't even go to a movie theater or a place of worship without being in fear of one of these terrorist attacks happening :(

As Chris Rock said, 'I ain't scared of Al Qaeda, I'm scared of Al Cracka'.


So move away, mate.

I hear Africa is a real wonderful, tolerant place.

Go there mate! Take all your friends.

Your country won't miss you one bit. Count on it.

[bada bing]

the hate in this country has gone overboard. really overboard. and we constantly see this on tv and in our politics. groups are constantly segregated in the name of 'american values', whatever the fck that is. Something like this was bound to happen and i am glad it didnt happen on a much much larger scale. This was a hate crime. The rhetoric by some ppl need to be controlled.

[DonDadda59]

So move away, mate.

I hear Africa is a real wonderful, tolerant place.

Go there mate! Take all your friends.

Your country won't miss you one bit. Count on it.

I lived in South Africa during Apartheid. Crackas were even worse back then mate :oldlol:

[JaggerCommaMick]

:facepalm


people who smoke pot don't walk suspiciously or strangely. WTF would ever make you think of something so dumb?


ehhhm, bloke what do you think being high does? it distorts your mental physical perception. It's a mild hallucinogenic. Why do you think they give it to medical patients with discomfort? It alters how you feel.

If you've ever been zoned out on marijuana while walking you'd know you could easily be prone to thinking intently bout somethin and not even realizing you're walking completely through someones flower bed. Or some other kinda random incident like that.

Mate, I had more experience with drugs by the time I was 15 than you've clearly ever had in your life. Keep quiet when adults are talking, yeah?

[Celtics4ever]

the hate in this country has gone overboard. really overboard. and we constantly see this on tv and in our politics. groups are constantly segregated in the name of 'american values', whatever the fck that is. Something like this was bound to happen and i am glad it didnt happen on a much much larger scale. This was a hate crime. The rhetoric by some ppl need to be controlled.

The messed up part is that I'm sure the gunman thought he was killing Muslims, but instead killed another religious group (Sikhs), who are not even close to being Muslims. The only reason is because they wear turbans

[Celtics4ever]

ehhhm, bloke what do you think being high does? it distorts your mental physical perception. It's a mild hallucinogenic. Why do you think they give it to medical patients with discomfort? It alters how you feel.

If you've ever been zoned out on marijuana while walking you'd know you could easily be prone to thinking intently bout somethin and not even realizing you're walking completely through someones flower bed. Or some other kinda random incident like that.

Mate, I had more experience with drugs by the time I was 15 than you've clearly ever had in your life. Keep quiet when adults are talking, yeah?

Makes sense. I can tell you were a druggy

[JaggerCommaMick]

the hate in this country has gone overboard. really overboard. and we constantly see this on tv and in our politics. groups are constantly segregated in the name of 'american values', whatever the fck that is. Something like this was bound to happen and i am glad it didnt happen on a much much larger scale. This was a hate crime. The rhetoric by some ppl need to be controlled.



Well mate murder should never be the answer, and I quite rightly agree that Sikhs are very amiable chaps. However part of the problem is that America won't tolerate people speaking out and voicing an opinion that perhaps they don't want a group full of towelheads in their neighborhood because they prefer the previous way of life. Politicians won't do anything about it. Media won't touch it. Anyone who speaks out is condemned and mate there are a lot of people who feel that way.

That's why France nips it in the bud. If you live in France, it's your responsibility to come to France culture, you don't make France come to you. If you don't like it? You're welcome to get out. If America had a more open dialogue and stricter rules about assimilating to American ways, there wouldn't be so much cultural conflict.

Make no mistake mates, nothin bout diversity made America great. White people did basically everything. Blacks did some cool stuff with music. But that's it. White culture is clearly the proven most successful culture in the world. Sikhs here may adopt American values, but how do the ones over in the Punjab treat their women? I have no bloody idear but I bet it aint like in America. France aint want people runnin around in berkas? Good. Let these towel heads take the damn towel off their head mates. And guess what? That aint no different than pickin on a bloody christian which most here are wonderfully apt to do, I bet.

[brantonli]

for someone trying to impersonate an english chav, you're not doing a very good job mate.

[BoogieWoogieMan]

for someone trying to impersonate an english chav, you're not doing a very good job mate.

It's Nick Young's new account. Saw it coming a mile away.

[DonDadda59]

Well mate murder should never be the answer, and I quite rightly agree that Sikhs are very amiable chaps. However part of the problem is that America won't tolerate people speaking out and voicing an opinion that perhaps they don't want a group full of towelheads in their neighborhood because they prefer the previous way of life. Politicians won't do anything about it. Media won't touch it. Anyone who speaks out is condemned and mate there are a lot of people who feel that way.

That's why France nips it in the bud. If you live in France, it's your responsibility to come to France culture, you don't make France come to you. If you don't like it? You're welcome to get out. If America had a more open dialogue and stricter rules about assimilating to American ways, there wouldn't be so much cultural conflict.

Make no mistake mates, nothin bout diversity made America great. White people did basically everything. Blacks did some cool stuff with music. But that's it. White culture is clearly the proven most successful culture in the world. Sikhs here may adopt American values, but how do the ones over in the Punjab treat their women? I have no bloody idear but I bet it aint like in America. France aint want people runnin around in berkas? Good. Let these towel heads take the damn towel off their head mates. And guess what? That aint no different than pickin on a bloody christian which most here are wonderfully apt to do, I bet.

Who knew Mick Jagger was such an ignorant biggot? :(

Hey mate... about the bolded... what exactly would you characterize as 'American ways' that other cultures should have to assimilate to or else they are justifiable target dummies? :confusedshrug:

[JaggerCommaMick]

Who knew Mick Jagger was such an ignorant biggot? :(

Hey mate... about the bolded... what exactly would you characterize as 'American ways' that other cultures should have to assimilate to or else they are justifiable target dummies? :confusedshrug:



Umm, how bout dress the way people in America dress? Don't have women that have to wear berkas coverin their whole body and look like freaks (real classy, islam) and don't have men, regardless if theyre sikh or not, wear headgear that makes em look like theyre in the same cult as this bloke





http://media.mcclatchydc.com/smedia/2011/05/02/02/Osama_bin_Laden_Nost.wide_photo.prod_affiliate.91. jpg


thats osama bin laden by the way.



you sensitive ninnies are just gonna let america slowly rot because you're too damn sissified to say 'our way or else' but guess what, mates? if you dont have the strength to enforce standards, you're just gonna end up a bunch of dogs sleeping where other people sh!t, because you aint got the guts to tell em to take it to the outhouse.

[DonDadda59]

Umm, how bout dress the way people in America dress?

Can you be more specific? I don't know if you've ever been to this country, but that's a pretty vague statement there for several reasons.

Let's get some details here.

[dude77]

Umm, how bout dress the way people in America dress? Don't have women that have to wear berkas coverin their whole body and look like freaks (real classy, islam) and don't have men, regardless if theyre sikh or not, wear headgear that makes em look like theyre in the same cult as this bloke





http://media.mcclatchydc.com/smedia/2011/05/02/02/Osama_bin_Laden_Nost.wide_photo.prod_affiliate.91. jpg


thats osama bin laden by the way.



you sensitive ninnies are just gonna let america slowly rot because you're too damn sissified to say 'our way or else' but guess what, mates? if you dont have the strength to enforce standards, you're just gonna end up a bunch of dogs sleeping where other people sh!t, because you aint got the guts to tell em to take it to the outhouse.


^^speaks truths .. dadda says 'what are american values' <-- that's the damn problem .. americans have become a bunch of pussified fggts without values so they got nothing to stand on

[Celtics4ever]

Well mate murder should never be the answer, and I quite rightly agree that Sikhs are very amiable chaps. However part of the problem is that America won't tolerate people speaking out and voicing an opinion that perhaps they don't want a group full of towelheads in their neighborhood because they prefer the previous way of life. Politicians won't do anything about it. Media won't touch it. Anyone who speaks out is condemned and mate there are a lot of people who feel that way.

That's why France nips it in the bud. If you live in France, it's your responsibility to come to France culture, you don't make France come to you. If you don't like it? You're welcome to get out. If America had a more open dialogue and stricter rules about assimilating to American ways, there wouldn't be so much cultural conflict.

Make no mistake mates, nothin bout diversity made America great. White people did basically everything. Blacks did some cool stuff with music. But that's it. White culture is clearly the proven most successful culture in the world. Sikhs here may adopt American values, but how do the ones over in the Punjab treat their women? I have no bloody idear but I bet it aint like in America. France aint want people runnin around in berkas? Good. Let these towel heads take the damn towel off their head mates. And guess what? That aint no different than pickin on a bloody christian which most here are wonderfully apt to do, I bet.

What's the American values? What made America was it's diversity. You come here talking about what America is with your British dialogue. You're an ignorant idiot.

And the Sikh religion was the one of the first religions that held rights for women. Check out this quote I found from their holy book:

[JaggerCommaMick]

Can you be more specific? I don't know if you've ever been to this country, but that's a pretty vague statement there for several reasons.

Let's get some details here.


I just told you, mate. Not wearing berkas, not wearing turbans.

How bloody stupid can you be???

[Celtics4ever]

Umm, how bout dress the way people in America dress? Don't have women that have to wear berkas coverin their whole body and look like freaks (real classy, islam) and don't have men, regardless if theyre sikh or not, wear headgear that makes em look like theyre in the same cult as this bloke





http://media.mcclatchydc.com/smedia/2011/05/02/02/Osama_bin_Laden_Nost.wide_photo.prod_affiliate.91. jpg


thats osama bin laden by the way.



you sensitive ninnies are just gonna let america slowly rot because you're too damn sissified to say 'our way or else' but guess what, mates? if you dont have the strength to enforce standards, you're just gonna end up a bunch of dogs sleeping where other people sh!t, because you aint got the guts to tell em to take it to the outhouse.

The guy in the pic is a Muslim. The people shot today were Sikhs. You are a ignorant cun*t.

[Celtics4ever]

I just told you, mate. Not wearing berkas, not wearing turbans.

How bloody stupid can you be???

So you're saying everybody should follow the same religion?

[DonDadda59]

^^speaks truths .. dadda says 'what are american values' <-- that's the damn problem .. americans have become a bunch of pussified fggts without values so they got nothing to stand on

He did? When? :confusedshrug:

I could've sworn Dadda asked how someone would 'dress American' and how not 'dressing American' would make it alright for some crazy hick to go on a shooting spree. You want to tackle this one? Better get in while the get'ins good, I'm sure this thread is like the bat signal for the other resident racists here. Don't want them hogging all the ignorance glory. Go ahead, take your best shot (pun intended :pimp: )

[TheMarkMadsen]

ehhhm, bloke what do you think being high does? it distorts your mental physical perception. It's a mild hallucinogenic. Why do you think they give it to medical patients with discomfort? It alters how you feel.

If you've ever been zoned out on marijuana while walking you'd know you could easily be prone to thinking intently bout somethin and not even realizing you're walking completely through someones flower bed. Or some other kinda random incident like that.

Mate, I had more experience with drugs by the time I was 15 than you've clearly ever had in your life. Keep quiet when adults are talking, yeah?



Hold up, just read that last line. You must be hella HARDCORE, what's your daily routine? Wake up, eat glass, punch down iron walls, do lots of drugs before you're 15?

From what you say about the effects of cannibas you sound like a little girl who can't handle their shit?

AMIRITE?

[Derka]

Some dingus seriously just assumed they were Muslims? My country sucks sometimes.

[DonDadda59]

I just told you, mate. Not wearing berkas, not wearing turbans.

How bloody stupid can you be???

Obviously very :oldlol:

Ok, so we've established... no turbans or berkas. So what should Sikhs and other groups wear to ensure they are 'dressing American' and not justifiable homicide cases?

Remember... I want specifics.

[JaggerCommaMick]

[QUOTE=Celtics4ever]What's the American values? What made America was it's diversity. You come here talking about what America is with your British dialogue. You're an ignorant idiot.

And the Sikh religion was the one of the first religions that held rights for women. Check out this quote I found from their holy book:

[Celtics4ever]

Some dingus seriously just assumed they were Muslims? My country sucks sometimes.

That's why I think it's so messed up. Some idiot thought they were Muslims. Especially cause I know a lot of Sikh people and they are the most nicest people I know. We have invited them to our church a lot of times. They believe every religion believes in the same god, but everyone has a different name for god.

[Celtics4ever]

That's what a bloody book says mate, I wonder how well its practiced over in India.

India has 200 different religions and cultures. Why would you generalize?

[JaggerCommaMick]

So you're saying everybody should follow the same religion?


No, I'm saying if you wanna make it so bloody obvious what stupid religion you follow, and you're in the extreme minority, expect people not to like it.

'Hey lets go to the west and walk around in ridiculous outfits that look like the ones Osama bin Laden wears. Watch how the little pansies in their country will make everyone else keep their mouth shut about how annoying it is!'

Hey mate, what happens when there are more of them in the country than you. And their votes start to have more of an impact than people like you. Guess how fun that'll be.

[JaggerCommaMick]

That's why I think it's so messed up. Some idiot thought they were Muslims.

And why did he think that, mate?

[DonDadda59]

No, I'm saying if you wanna make it so bloody obvious what stupid religion you follow, and you're in the extreme minority, expect people not to like it.

'Hey lets go to the west and walk around in ridiculous outfits that look like the ones Osama bin Laden wears. Watch how the little pansies in their country will make everyone else keep their mouth shut about how annoying it is!'

Hey mate, what happens when there are more of them in the country than you. And their votes start to have more of an impact than people like you. Guess how fun that'll be.

Then they will be dressing the 'American Way' and everyone who doesn't look like them is justifiable target practice :oldlol:

You still haven't answered my question from above. Any time you're ready.

[Celtics4ever]

No, I'm saying if you wanna make it so bloody obvious what stupid religion you follow, and you're in the extreme minority, expect people not to like it.

'Hey lets go to the west and walk around in ridiculous outfits that look like the ones Osama bin Laden wears. Watch how the little pansies in their country will make everyone else keep their mouth shut about how annoying it is!'

Hey mate, what happens when there are more of them in the country than you. And their votes start to have more of an impact than people like you. Guess how fun that'll be.

You idiot. That's why they say America has freedom. You can come here and hold your beliefs and values. Makes us different from other countries. Why does it matter what you wear and what your beliefs are if you respect and are peaceful to others? All the Sikhs I know are peaceful. Just cause some idiot thought they were Muslim, they got killed.

You are a ignorant bastard.

[Celtics4ever]

And why did he think that, mate?

You can dress however you want and hold any types of beliefs you want as long as you dont hurt anyone else or cause any violence. Sikhs have never caused any violence or terrorism in America. They are hard working peaceful people.

[JaggerCommaMick]

Obviously very :oldlol:

Ok, so we've established... no turbans or berkas. So what should Sikhs and other groups wear to ensure they are 'dressing American' and not justifiable homicide cases?

Remember... I want specifics.


That's it, mate. Don't wear overtly religious clothing that will associate you with nutjobs. Very few others in America do. Those black get-ups the Jews wear? Nobody associates that with terrorists and foreigners (at least most don't).

Nobody's born wearing the terrorist uniform. They choose to belong to a cult that promotes it. That's their bloody problem.

Oh, but wait....

Christianity is the only religion that is bad or can be made fun of.
Only white people are or can be prejudice.
Rich people are the ones ruining society.


America and Europe are both being overwhelmed by these small little groups of jealous minorities who are playing up their cute little victim card so well they've actually convinced all the white, acne-riddled, insecure, bed-wetting, hand-wringing teenager fembots in these countries to raise a fist along with them. Against the establishment, right blokes! Guess what, mates, none of these cultures done did jack shit. Whites, Asians, Jews are the only groups that ever did squat in the last 1,000 years. Our way or G.T.F.O.

Just remember mate, all your race baiting and race card playing, it's not an attempt to bring yourself up, you're just merely trying to bring others down to that level. Don't know what the hell race or religion you are, but you seem pretty insecure and sensitive, probably about the truth that yes, some cultures and people have a way that is flat out better and you just wanna throw little pebbles at the giant all day for fun. Go to flippin Africa mate, you belong there. You clearly don't respect the kind of standards and values that shaped America. You belong in a place like Africa. And not even South Africa, which is like one of the few parts that had outside influence and therefore is now decent. You belong in the middle of it, chap.

[KingBeasley08]

Mick Jagger is Starface :oldlol:

[Celtics4ever]

That's it, mate. Don't wear overtly religious clothing that will associate you with nutjobs. Very few others in America do. Those black get-ups the Jews wear? Nobody associates that with terrorists and foreigners (at least most don't).

Nobody's born wearing the terrorist uniform. They choose to belong to a cult that promotes it. That's their bloody problem.

Oh, but wait....

Christianity is the only religion that is bad or can be made fun of.
Only white people are or can be prejudice.
Rich people are the ones ruining society.



America and Europe are both being overwhelmed by these small little groups of jealous minorities who are playing up their cute little victim card so well they've actually convinced all the white, acne-riddled, insecure, bed-wetting, hand-wringing teenager fembots in these countries to raise a fist along with them. Against the establishment, right blokes! Guess what, mates, none of these cultures done did jack shit. Whites, Asians, Jews are the only groups that ever did squat in the last 1,000 years. Our way or G.T.F.O.

Just remember mate, all your race baiting and race card playing, it's not an attempt to bring yourself up, you're just merely trying to bring others down to that level. Don't know what the hell race or religion you are, but you seem pretty insecure and sensitive, probably about the truth that yes, some cultures and people have a way that is flat out better and you just wanna throw little pebbles at the giant all day for fun. Go to flippin Africa mate, you belong there. You clearly don't respect the kind of standards and values that shaped America. You belong in a place like Africa. And not even South Africa, which is like one of the few parts that had outside influence and therefore is now decent. You belong in the middle of it, chap.

I have seen a lot of jews holding long beards and side burns. And I remmember some jews were targeted with hate crimes after 911 because ignorant idiots like you thought they were muslim.

Imagine this. Let's say you and your jewish family (dad/brother) go to their synagogue to pray and some idiot came and shot them because he thought they looked muslim, only because your dad had a long beard, side burns, etc.

How would you feel?

[dude77]

damn .. jagger laying it down .. :sits and watches all the pc butthurt fggts swarm in:: :oldlol:

[KDTrey5]

so whats the latest?

[JaggerCommaMick]

You can dress however you want and hold any types of beliefs you want as long as you dont hurt anyone else or cause any violence. Sikhs have never caused any violence or terrorism in America. They are hard working peaceful people.

That's a technical rule, chap. In practice it's a little different.

Asians are the fastest growin minority in your country the last 10 years. Nobody says anything about it. Why? Because they go out of their way to assimilate. That's how you're supposed to do it. 'When in Rome'.

Sikhs are very nice people, but if you dont want to be confused for terrorists, then dont wear that stupid clothing in a country that has had problems with people who wear that stupid clothing. Pretty simple, yeah?

Black people these days do every single thing to go out of their way to be the opposite of white people. Act loud, obnoxious, dress ridiculous, talk strange, the whole lot, and guess what? They're goin the exact opposite direction from Asians. You can't make the bloody correlation, mate?

It's got nothin to do with race and everything to do with culture. If your culture aint American, it better be pretty darn close or you better not be too overt about it, or else you're just askin to get hated.

[Celtics4ever]

damn .. jagger laying it down .. :sits and watches all the pc butthurt fggts swarm in:: :oldlol:

You're an ignorant idiot just like him.

A group of people got killed and some hurt because some idiot thought they were Muslims. This could have happened to any religious group that supports the identity of long beards, turbans.

[Celtics4ever]

That's a technical rule, chap. In practice it's a little different.

Asians are the fastest growin minority in your country the last 10 years. Nobody says anything about it. Why? Because they go out of their way to assimilate. That's how you're supposed to do it. 'When in Rome'.

Sikhs are very nice people, but if you dont want to be confused for terrorists, then dont wear that stupid clothing in a country that has had problems with people who wear that stupid clothing. Pretty simple, yeah?

Black people these days do every single thing to go out of their way to be the opposite of white people. Act loud, obnoxious, dress ridiculous, talk strange, the whole lot, and guess what? They're goin the exact opposite direction from Asians. You can't make the bloody correlation, mate?

It's got nothin to do with race and everything to do with culture. If your culture aint American, it better be pretty darn close or you better not be too overt about it, or else you're just askin to get hated.

That's part of their beliefs and religion and if they cause no harms with it, then why would us Americans care?? It's not like they are going around bombing or hurting people

[JaggerCommaMick]

I have seen a lot of jews holding long beards and side burns. And I remmember some jews were targeted with hate crimes after 911 because ignorant idiots like you thought they were muslim.

Imagine this. Let's say you and your jewish family (dad/brother) go to their synagogue to pray and some idiot came and shot them because he thought they looked muslim, only because your dad had a long beard, side burns, etc.

How would you feel?


I'd never be in a cult mate. It's tragic any time someone is murdered. I am not professing any kind of support for what's just happened at this temple.

I just think you blokes in America should take a lesson from France. Have some bloody standards. Don't let people run around doin whatever they please just so you can rub your bloody vaginer and feel good about yourself. Try being a man and sayin 'no, there is what we value, sorry can't do that'.

Might be difficult to ban somethin as simple as a turban but on the other hand, if you wear a turban, just get the **** out mate because honestly, thats nothing but a cult uniform and its the same bloody thing osama bin laden wears, or wore, whatever the case is. enough with these bloody cults.

[KingBeasley08]

You're an ignorant idiot just like him.

A group of people got killed and some hurt because some idiot thought they were Muslims. This could have happened to any religious group that supports the identity of long beards, turbans.
I don't get the dudes point. I understand the safety reasons for assimilating but that "our culture" shit is some BS. Dude's flippin British (suppossedly). Those cultures didn't accomplish a lot because of what they were wearing. So who gives a crap?

[DonDadda59]

That's it, mate. Don't wear overtly religious clothing that will associate you with nutjobs. Very few others in America do. Those black get-ups the Jews wear? Nobody associates that with terrorists and foreigners (at least most don't).

So if someone wears this around their neck:

http://www.handcraftedcollectibles.com/z_cross_necklace_lp2572.jpg

I should assume that they are affiliated with Westboro or some other Christian nutjob groups? If I see anyone with highlights in their hair, I should assume they're going to shoot up a movie theater? Should I assume that every person who wears a military uniform is part of the same militia Timothy McVeigh belonged to? Sikhs have no connection to Osama Bin Laden. If you're going to profile a group, at least do it right :oldlol:


Nobody's born wearing the terrorist uniform. They choose to belong to a cult that promotes it. That's their bloody problem.

You don't even know what the hell you're talking about :oldlol:


Oh, but wait....

Christianity is the only religion that is bad or can be made fun of.
Only white people are or can be prejudice.
Rich people are the ones ruining society.


America and Europe are both being overwhelmed by these small little groups of jealous minorities who are playing up their cute little victim card so well they've actually convinced all the white, acne-riddled, insecure, bed-wetting, hand-wringing teenager fembots in these countries to raise a fist along with them. Against the establishment, right blokes! Guess what, mates, none of these cultures done did jack shit. Whites, Asians, Jews are the only groups that ever did squat in the last 1,000 years. Our way or G.T.F.O.

Just remember mate, all your race baiting and race card playing, it's not an attempt to bring yourself up, you're just merely trying to bring others down to that level. Don't know what the hell race or religion you are, but you seem pretty insecure and sensitive, probably about the truth that yes, some cultures and people have a way that is flat out better and you just wanna throw little pebbles at the giant all day for fun. Go to flippin Africa mate, you belong there. You clearly don't respect the kind of standards and values that shaped America. You belong in a place like Africa. And not even South Africa, which is like one of the few parts that had outside influence and therefore is now decent. You belong in the middle of it, chap.

I don't know if this is part of your gimmick or your real 'thoughts' but :oldlol:

It's almost adorable how misguided and simple-minded your world view is. Where do you live if you don't mind me asking?

[Celtics4ever]

I'd never be in a cult mate. It's tragic any time someone is murdered. I am not professing any kind of support for what's just happened at this temple.

I just think you blokes in America should take a lesson from France. Have some bloody standards. Don't let people run around doin whatever they please just so you can rub your bloody vaginer and feel good about yourself. Try being a man and sayin 'no, there is what we value, sorry can't do that'.

Might be difficult to ban somethin as simple as a turban but on the other hand, if you wear a turban, just get the **** out mate because honestly, thats nothing but a cult uniform and its the same bloody thing osama bin laden wears, or wore, whatever the case is. enough with these bloody cults.

What's wrong with you? Osama Bin laden is a muslim terrorists. Regular muslims don't wear turbans. The only religion that I know of that wear turbans is the Sikh religion. Why would we ban turbans and hurt the peaceful Sikh religion because some guy from another religion chooses to wear it while being a terrorist. Maybe it's better to educate ourselves on it.

[Celtics4ever]

I don't get the dudes point. I understand the safety reasons for assimilating but that "our culture" shit is some BS. Dude's flippin British (suppossedly). Those cultures didn't accomplish a lot because of what they were wearing. So who gives a crap?

This dude's an idiot. I can't believe how ignorant someone can be.

[dude77]

You're an ignorant idiot just like him.

A group of people got killed and some hurt because some idiot thought they were Muslims. This could have happened to any religious group that supports the identity of long beards, turbans.

I'm pretty sure he's not condoning the killing of these people :facepalm ..

he's voicing an opinion which you're taking and using it to assume he must be some 'racist white guy' .. that's gotten really old .. can a white bastard have an opinion without y'all yelling 'racist' :applause:

[JaggerCommaMick]

That's part of their beliefs and religion and if they cause no harms with it, then why would us Americans care?? It's not like they are going around bombing or hurting people


Once again mate, if you come to the west choosing to dress in a way that nobody else dresses, and dressing in a way that clearly and obviously will resemble terrorists to people in the west.... dont expect it to go over so well.

And there is nothing wrong with people feeling this way. The problem is people who would rather not have an insensitive dialogue, like yourself, so instead you allow shit to pile up. You're too bloody sensitive for your own good, mate. Once again, France don't give a F, and guess what? People dont walk around in ridiculous berkas anymore.

You have too much pride in sticking up for every bozo who wants to act strange and be a freak. Even when every freakin person in society loathes it, you get your rocks off being the defender. Makin everyone bow down to the waste of society by threatening some kind of 'you're a bigot' or 'youre a racist' counter tactic. Sorry mate, but I don't bloody care. I'm beloved around the world and people know Mick Jagger hates no man for his predisposed qualities. Only for his stupidity, his counterproduction, his lack of values, his selfishness, or his refusal to be the least bit mindful of others.

I'm not some blind bigot on a white power trip, mate. I don't hate jews, they have good social standards. Same with Asians that come to England or the USA. Same with many Africans, in fact, who go to the USA, and far outpace their African American counterparts.

But certain values and principles are what made America a great bloody place! When you go there looking like terrorists from the middle east, then yes, you do indirectly threaten peoples way of lives in their mind. So just dont do it. Same as when you go there and dont learn English. Learn the flippin language! Same as when you just try to counteract everything about white culture, and end up dead or in jail, costing the country millions. You guys have lost your sense of standards, mates. My country aint too far behind, although we're gettin worse. France and Germany are spot on, and they're the ones that will probably fare better long term. The former English empire will likely go down like Rome. Slowly compromised and crumbled by outside, and frankly inferior, forces. Yes mates, I said it.

For the record when I say inferior forces I mean urban blacks and an influx of unskilled labor (immigrants as well as worthless domestic drop outs/drug users/general dependents). These sikh towelheads were probably doctors and generally good people. But hey, leave the turban in India, mates. Come here and be American (I'm on tour right now in the states).

[dude77]

Once again mate, if you come to the west choosing to dress in a way that nobody else dresses, and dressing in a way that clearly and obviously will resemble terrorists to people in the west.... dont expect it to go over so well.

And there is nothing wrong with people feeling this way. The problem is people who would rather not have an insensitive dialogue, like yourself, so instead you allow shit to pile up. You're too bloody sensitive for your own good, mate. Once again, France don't give a F, and guess what? People dont walk around in ridiculous berkas anymore.

You have too much pride in sticking up for every bozo who wants to act strange and be a freak. Even when every freakin person in society loathes it, you get your rocks off being the defender. Makin everyone bow down to the waste of society by threatening some kind of 'you're a bigot' or 'youre a racist' counter tactic. Sorry mate, but I don't bloody care. I'm beloved around the world and people know Mick Jagger hates no man for his predisposed qualities. Only for his stupidity, his counterproduction, his lack of values, his selfishness, or his refusal to be the least bit mindful of others.

I'm not some blind bigot on a white power trip, mate. I don't hate jews, they have good social standards. Same with Asians that come to England or the USA. Same with many Africans, in fact, who go to the USA, and far outpace their African American counterparts.

But certain values and principles are what made America a great bloody place! When you go there looking like terrorists from the middle east, then yes, you do indirectly threaten peoples way of lives in their mind. So just dont do it. Same as when you go there and dont learn English. Learn the flippin language! Same as when you just try to counteract everything about white culture, and end up dead or in jail, costing the country millions. You guys have lost your sense of standards, mates. My country aint too far behind, although we're gettin worse. France and Germany are spot on, and they're the ones that will probably fare better long term. The former English empire will likely go down like Rome. Slowly compromised and crumbled by outside, and frankly inferior, forces. Yes mates, I said it.

all well said .. americans these days have no backbone .. y'all just rather have anyone come in there and run over you and do wtf they want and well .. you'll just have to deal with it .. pathetic

[DonDadda59]

Once again mate, if you come to the west choosing to dress in a way that nobody else dresses, and dressing in a way that clearly and obviously will resemble terrorists to people in the west.... dont expect it to go over so well.

And there is nothing wrong with people feeling this way. The problem is people who would rather not have an insensitive dialogue, like yourself, so instead you allow shit to pile up. You're too bloody sensitive for your own good, mate. Once again, France don't give a F, and guess what? People dont walk around in ridiculous berkas anymore.

You have too much pride in sticking up for every bozo who wants to act strange and be a freak. Even when every freakin person in society loathes it, you get your rocks off being the defender. Makin everyone bow down to the waste of society by threatening some kind of 'you're a bigot' or 'youre a racist' counter tactic. Sorry mate, but I don't bloody care. I'm beloved around the world and people know Mick Jagger hates no man for his predisposed qualities. Only for his stupidity, his counterproduction, his lack of values, his selfishness, or his refusal to be the least bit mindful of others.

I'm not some blind bigot on a white power trip, mate. I don't hate jews, they have good social standards. Same with Asians that come to England or the USA. Same with many Africans, in fact, who go to the USA, and far outpace their African American counterparts.

But certain values and principles are what made America a great bloody place! When you go there looking like terrorists from the middle east, then yes, you do indirectly threaten peoples way of lives in their mind. So just dont do it. Same as when you go there and dont learn English. Learn the flippin language! Same as when you just try to counteract everything about white culture, and end up dead or in jail, costing the country millions. You guys have lost your sense of standards, mates. My country aint too far behind, although we're gettin worse. France and Germany are spot on, and they're the ones that will probably fare better long term. The former English empire will likely go down like Rome. Slowly compromised and crumbled by outside, and frankly inferior, forces. Yes mates, I said it.

So basically, if I see someone who looks and dresses like this:

http://cdn.eurweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/timothy_mcveigh2012-med-wide.jpg

I'm justified in assuming they're terrorists who belong to underground militias and they will blow up buildings in this country, killing hundreds? :confusedshrug:

Would you be defending me on this board if I walked into an army base with guns and ammo I got from Walmart and the internet and killed/injured dozens of soldiers?

Do you seriously not see how ignorant and narrow-minded your 'reasoning' is or are you just trolling?

[Celtics4ever]

all well said .. americans these days have no backbone .. y'all just rather have anyone come in there and run over you and do wtf they want and well .. you'll just have to deal with it .. pathetic

Run over you?

Let me tell you why idiots like you and the other idiot are saying all this. It's hard for you guys to watch someone come from another country and get a better job than you, make more money than you and become more successful than you. Maybe you guys should stop being lazy. The other idiot already admitted that he was a druggy before he even turned 15. I'm sure his life is hell

[Celtics4ever]

Once again mate, if you come to the west choosing to dress in a way that nobody else dresses, and dressing in a way that clearly and obviously will resemble terrorists to people in the west.... dont expect it to go over so well.

And there is nothing wrong with people feeling this way. The problem is people who would rather not have an insensitive dialogue, like yourself, so instead you allow shit to pile up. You're too bloody sensitive for your own good, mate. Once again, France don't give a F, and guess what? People dont walk around in ridiculous berkas anymore.

You have too much pride in sticking up for every bozo who wants to act strange and be a freak. Even when every freakin person in society loathes it, you get your rocks off being the defender. Makin everyone bow down to the waste of society by threatening some kind of 'you're a bigot' or 'youre a racist' counter tactic. Sorry mate, but I don't bloody care. I'm beloved around the world and people know Mick Jagger hates no man for his predisposed qualities. Only for his stupidity, his counterproduction, his lack of values, his selfishness, or his refusal to be the least bit mindful of others.

I'm not some blind bigot on a white power trip, mate. I don't hate jews, they have good social standards. Same with Asians that come to England or the USA. Same with many Africans, in fact, who go to the USA, and far outpace their African American counterparts.

But certain values and principles are what made America a great bloody place! When you go there looking like terrorists from the middle east, then yes, you do indirectly threaten peoples way of lives in their mind. So just dont do it. Same as when you go there and dont learn English. Learn the flippin language! Same as when you just try to counteract everything about white culture, and end up dead or in jail, costing the country millions. You guys have lost your sense of standards, mates. My country aint too far behind, although we're gettin worse. France and Germany are spot on, and they're the ones that will probably fare better long term. The former English empire will likely go down like Rome. Slowly compromised and crumbled by outside, and frankly inferior, forces. Yes mates, I said it.

For the record when I say inferior forces I mean urban blacks and an influx of unskilled labor (immigrants as well as worthless domestic drop outs/drug users/general dependents). These sikh towelheads were probably doctors and generally good people. But hey, leave the turban in India, mates. Come here and be American (I'm on tour right now in the states).

Didn't you just say you were a druggy? Talk about being a hypocrite.

And you want people to forget their religions before they come to America? Why would we want them to do that if they cause no harm to us? Why are you so fu*kin stupid?

[Blue&Orange]

:lol I love when incredibly dumb people think they are smart and their opinions are valid.


Sikhs are very nice people, but if you dont want to be confused for terrorists, then dont wear that stupid clothing in a country that has had problems with people who wear that stupid clothing. Pretty simple, yeah?
Among all the inane drivel this made me laugh...

I agree, just like women should stay at home if they don't want to get raped... it's their fault. :lol

[JaggerCommaMick]

So basically, if I see someone who looks and dresses like this:

http://cdn.eurweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/timothy_mcveigh2012-med-wide.jpg

I'm justified in assuming they're terrorists who belong to underground militias and they will blow up buildings in this country, killing hundreds? :confusedshrug:

Would you be defending me on this board if I walked into an army base with guns and ammo I got from Walmart and the internet and killed/injured dozens of soldiers?

Do you seriously not see how ignorant and narrow-minded your 'reasoning' is or are you just trolling?


Mate, thats all a bunch of strawman poppyc0ck. Individuals are not the same as entire regions of the globe.

Furthermore, mate, let's not forget how this argument got started. Celtics Garlic claimed this was a hate crime when all he new about the shooter was that he was white and bald. I've done nothing more than essentially use his exact same logic to justify opinions about minorities. And it upset the both of you. That's what I got a problem with mate.


Minorities can publicly stick up for themselves in the west. Whites can't. Minorities can publicly generalize or stereotype others in the west. White's can't. Minorities can publicly preach about 'equality' but if they dont like the results an even playing field yields, they bitch about 'inequality' simply because they didnt handle their business.

That mindset is bloody ridiculous, and its more prevalent every day.

This argument started with a RACIST, STEREOTYPE of a WHITE CHAP. At that point, everything was A-ok. Once I decided to take up the other side of it, suddenly there's a bigot in the house.

Hope your victim complex, inferiority, insecurity, and petty jealousy make you proud mate.

*drops mic, heads to chick-fil-a for a bite*

[DonDadda59]

Individuals are not the same as entire regions of the globe.

But everyone who 'looks like Osama Bin Laden' should be subject to forced assimilation or worse, killed off?

I think you need to sit down, take a few minutes, read over what I quoted above... then come back here and tell me what the hell you're trying to 'argue' because it seems to me you are completely confused and you just blatantly contradicted yourself.

Take your time.

[miller-time]

just another mass killing. what evs? right america!?

seriously, i wonder what would have to happen to actually have a serious gun policy reform. i'm putting money on a 4 straight week of marauding gunmen killing about 2,000 people in total. maybe then they might decrease the amount of guns people can own to 3 and place a 1% tax on bullets...

[JaggerCommaMick]

Oh, and before I go mates, a poster who i wont name and who has not posted in this thread, private messaged me this graph and suggested I post it.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4f/Homicide_offending_by_race.jpg


Can you believe that there is a specific group of people in your country who is... committing murder at about 1000% of the rate of everyone else.... and nobody will actually publicly point it out???

No different than this Sikh things, mate. You intimidate people who want to vocally disagree with religious garb, or foreign practices, or ridiculous behavior, so evidently it just builds up and boils over in some people. How bout you try listening some time and realizing that while some of the time people are just being inherently prejudice, other times they have a legit gripe with how someone else behaves. Instead you just say 'no, we're not having that conversation, just let blacks keep murdering everyone. that makes me progressive because im sensitive about race'

Bloody hell, mates!

[dude77]

Run over you?

Let me tell you why idiots like you and the other idiot are saying all this. It's hard for you guys to watch someone come from another country and get a better job than you, make more money than you and become more successful than you. Maybe you guys should stop being lazy. The other idiot already admitted that he was a druggy before he even turned 15. I'm sure his life is hell

go to dubai and do something as simple as make out on the beach and you go to jail .. are they bigots or intolerant ? .. no, they're just defending their country and how things are done there .. I don't see you bashing them for that .. stop making excuses for being a doormat .. you have no backbone .. anyone can go to the usa and do whatever the fk they want .. and the natives don't do shit about it .. you have no standards, no values, nothing to stand on .. in fact, they not only not do anything about it, they defend them .. pathetic .. now .. I'll await more of your excuses or ad hominem attacks :hammerhead:

[Blue&Orange]

It's ok for you to jump to a conclusion about a white guy, mate, but would you condone Zimmerman concluding something about a black guy? I'm just wondering.
loooooooooooooool

OMG what at a ****ing racist dumb mutha****er... Yes idiot giving opinion on internet forum = killing somebody.

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol


Seriously do the world a favor and kill yourself, you have nothing to give but you stupidity and ignorance... you and dude77, you guys were born like 4 millions years to late, maybe if you guys were born 4 millions years ago, your IQ would have been able to give something to society.

[Celtics4ever]

go to dubai and do something as simple as make out on the beach and you go to jail .. are they bigots or intolerant ? .. no, they're just defending their country and how things are done there .. I don't see you bashing them for that .. stop making excuses for being a doormat .. you have no backbone .. anyone can go to the usa and do whatever the fk they want .. and the natives don't do shit about it .. you have no standards, no values, nothing to stand on .. in fact, they not only not do anything about it, they defend them .. pathetic .. now .. I'll await more of your excuses or ad hominem attacks :hammerhead:

DUbai? So just because Dubai is stupid, we have to be stupid with them? And Dubai is a muslim country, Sikhs are from India. As far as I know, India doesn't have those restrictions.

[Celtics4ever]

loooooooooooooool

OMG what at a ****ing racist dumb mutha****er... Yes idiot giving opinion on internet forum = killing somebody.

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol


Seriously do the world a favor and kill yourself, you have nothing to give but you stupidity and ignorance... you and dude77, you guys were born like 4 millions years to late, maybe if you guys were born 4 millions years ago, your IQ would have been able to give something to society.

There guys are idiots. They give other white guys like me a bad name. Go to Canada, everyone there thinks all us white people in America are ignorant.

[JaggerCommaMick]

loooooooooooooool

OMG what at a ****ing racist dumb mutha****er... Yes idiot giving opinion on internet forum = killing somebody.

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol


Seriously do the world a favor and kill yourself, you have nothing to give but you stupidity and ignorance... you and dude77, you guys were born like 4 millions years to late, maybe if you guys were born 4 millions years ago, your IQ would have been able to give something to society.


oh your so hip and progressive, mate, for letting anyone come into your house and shit on your bed. look how tolerant you are! oh and look, they just spit at your wife. you smile and nod, because you're progressive! now theyre playing with matches over on the couch. thank them and tell them how much you hate mitt romney. mate, it's so bloody cool of you how you're making up for not being included as a child by trying to include everyone bloody person who wants to use your house and not respect you a lick. you're so cool and popular now, even while you're being shitted on. must make you so jolly proud!

[Blue&Orange]

and the natives don't do shit about it .
The natives?? :roll: :lol :lol :lol :roll:

Dude the natives were wipeout, there are no natives in the USA idiot!! The natives are on reserves like some endangered animals...

:lol :lol :lol

A racist withe American with the IQ and the personality of a cockroach thinking he is a NATIVE!!! :roll: :roll:

Priceless!!!


Oh dear lord the stupidity....

[DonDadda59]

go to dubai and do something as simple as make out on the beach and you go to jail .. are they bigots or intolerant ? .. no, they're just defending their country and how things are done there .. I don't see you bashing them for that .. stop making excuses for being a doormat .. you have no backbone .. anyone can go to the usa and do whatever the fk they want .. and the natives don't do shit about it .. you have no standards, no values, nothing to stand on .. in fact, they not only not do anything about it, they defend them .. pathetic .. now .. I'll await more of your excuses or ad hominem attacks :hammerhead:

What's that called though? I'm sure I've heard about it before. Something with an F... Freedom, was it? :oldlol:

Isn't that the reason the Puritans came here in the first place, to escape religious persecution and create a free society where people can practice their religion without fear of persecution or prejudice? Oops, my fault, they actually went there to assimilate to the American way...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-zi-KPpwDq6A/Ti3pA80NISI/AAAAAAAAAGI/GVkdmGWTqOU/s1600/native_american_indian_six62.jpg

My History is a little shaky, that's how it went down right? :confusedshrug:

[Blue&Orange]

oh your so hip and progressive, mate, for letting anyone come into your house and shit on your bed. look how tolerant you are! oh and look, they just spit at your wife. you smile and nod, because you're progressive! now theyre playing with matches over on the couch. thank them and tell them how much you hate mitt romney. mate, it's so bloody cool of you how you're making up for not being included as a child by trying to include everyone bloody person who wants to use your house and not respect you a lick. you're so cool and popular now, even while you're being shitted on. must make you so jolly proud!
Seriously bitch don't talk to me, i don't engage in conversations with trash. :lol


Don't mistake laughing at you with wanting to have a conversation... :lol

[Retro Spidey]

http://i.imgur.com/pTxFE.jpg

[Celtics4ever]

so whats the latest?

Nothing new yet besides that the shooter was a white male carrying two machine guns.

This shows Sikhs have been targeted after 9/11 because ignorant idiots thought they were Muslim:

Here, too, there are multiple perspectives. Some of the crimes directed at Sikhs over the last ten years, including the murder of Balbir Singh Sodhi, a gas station owner in Arizona who was killed four days after 9/11, have been blamed on people who

[JaggerCommaMick]

What's that called though? I'm sure I've heard about it before. Something with an F... Freedom, was it? :oldlol:

Isn't that the reason the Puritans came here in the first place, to escape religious persecution and create a free society where people can practice their religion without fear of persecution or prejudice? Oops, my fault, they actually went there to assimilate to the American way...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-zi-KPpwDq6A/Ti3pA80NISI/AAAAAAAAAGI/GVkdmGWTqOU/s1600/native_american_indian_six62.jpg

My History is a little shaky, that's how it went down right? :confusedshrug:


You continuously help me to make my points so effortlessly. Thanks mate.


Indians were in the USA. They did it the Indians way. They always had done it the Indians way. Indians way lasted a good long time.

White man came to USA, did it the white man's way on the Indians land.

Now where are the Indians?


Lesson learned. Protect your turf.

[DonDadda59]

You continuously help me to make my points so effortlessly. Thanks mate.


Indians were in the USA. They did it the Indians way. They always had done it the Indians way. Indians way lasted a good long time.

White man came to USA, did it the white man's way on the Indians land.

Now where are the Indians?


Lesson learned. Protect your turf.

You think Sikhs are coming with smallpox-laced blankets? :eek:

[Celtics4ever]

You continuously help me to make my points so effortlessly. Thanks mate.


Indians were in the USA. They did it the Indians way. They always had done it the Indians way. Indians way lasted a good long time.

White man came to USA, did it the white man's way on the Indians land.

Now where are the Indians?


Lesson learned. Protect your turf.

I can't believe how stupid you are. How do you know that our way is right? We are all humans. If someone has different beliefs than us, we should respect it. No one is the same. It's not like the Sikhs harmed America in any way. They probably came here to make a better living for themselves and their kids, just how our ancestors came here from Great Britain.

[JaggerCommaMick]

You think Sikhs are coming with smallpox-laced blankets? :eek:

Mate, all over Europe right now Muslims are flooding in. They are not fleeing religious persecution. They can dress like this in their own countries:


http://rossrightangle.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/burka-1.jpg



They're only coming here to exploit economic opportunity in the countries that developed it over centuries through evolving European cultures and customs. They don't care about those cultures and customs. Of course, when there numbers are strong enough, they'll certainly take advantage of western democracy and slowly start tipping the scales. Europeans don't bloody well want to be modern day Indians. But the crybabies who cannot stand up for themselves against mindless idiots like you playing the race card allow themselves to be intimidated, or else their own insecurity leads to some absurd measure of guilt for being white and standing up to a person of color, or for whatever reason they put the interests of foreign immigrants above those in their own country. Guess what, mate? Maybe there's no perfect ideal solution that works 100% for them, and 100% for us. Well guess what? When you have to pick one or the other, we see who's a man, and we see who's afraid of conflict.

Mate, the merits of Sikh's have nothing to do with the bloody discussion. The fact of the matter is that to most people in the west, they do look like Muslims. I been to America many times, and I know they are generally a welcoming, inviting people, if you arrive with certain principles. Not wearing middle eastern cult garb is one of them. The fact that some Americans wear modest crosses is neither here nor there, mate. Americans are already in America. If you want to live there in peace you certainly can. But don't walk around advertising another culture that resembles one they are continuously in conflict. Bloody common sense, mate.

You can simply tell in these discussions who stands up for themselves, and who are the insecure, beta type males who are simply not born to be resolute. The reason you're so bloody inclusive mate is because you're afraid if you have standards you might well have to bloody back them up with some conflict. That's the heart of it, mate. Anyone can be welcoming, and it's certainly admirable to do so. What is also admirable is saying "You are in my house, I am enforcing my rules." You aint got that in you. Must come from a place of weakness or insecurity. That's why your house will get overrun mate. And you'll allow it to happen. Because you are prey.

[chazzy]

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/18290306.jpg

Jagger's posts are mind-numbingly stupid. I hope it's just a starface gimmick and not another idiot out there

[JaggerCommaMick]

I can't believe how stupid you are. How do you know that our way is right? We are all humans. If someone has different beliefs than us, we should respect it. No one is the same. It's not like the Sikhs harmed America in any way. They probably came here to make a better living for themselves and their kids, just how our ancestors came here from Great Britain.


My god, mate, I had this whole time assumed you were a man.

This little crybaby ACLU speech has me convinced you're a bloody woman! Or rather a little girl! Am I actually addressing a female right now?

I'm sorry doll. Didn't mean to make you cry. Take your blanky and run along. The grown ups are talking about important things. Don't let it scare you and give you nightmares. Dry your eyes, lass.

[DonDadda59]

Mate, all over Europe right now Muslims are flooding in. They are not fleeing religious persecution. They can dress like this in their own countries:


http://rossrightangle.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/burka-1.jpg



They're only coming here to exploit economic opportunity in the countries that developed it over centuries through evolving European cultures and customs. They don't care about those cultures and customs. Of course, when there numbers are strong enough, they'll certainly take advantage of western democracy and slowly start tipping the scales. Europeans don't bloody well want to be modern day Indians. But the crybabies who cannot stand up for themselves against mindless idiots like you playing the race card allow themselves to be intimidated, or else their own insecurity leads to some absurd measure of guilt for being white and standing up to a person of color, or for whatever reason they put the interests of foreign immigrants above those in their own country. Guess what, mate? Maybe there's no perfect ideal solution that works 100% for them, and 100% for us. Well guess what? When you have to pick one or the other, we see who's a man, and we see who's afraid of conflict.

Mate, the merits of Sikh's have nothing to do with the bloody discussion. The fact of the matter is that to most people in the west, they do look like Muslims. I been to America many times, and I know they are generally a welcoming, inviting people, if you arrive with certain principles. Not wearing middle eastern cult garb is one of them. The fact that some Americans wear modest crosses is neither here nor there, mate. Americans are already in America. If you want to live there in peace you certainly can. But don't walk around advertising another culture that resembles one they are continuously in conflict. Bloody common sense, mate.

You can simply tell in these discussions who stands up for themselves, and who are the insecure, beta type males who are simply not born to be resolute. The reason you're so bloody inclusive mate is because you're afraid if you have standards you might well have to bloody back them up with some conflict. That's the heart of it, mate. Anyone can be welcoming, and it's certainly admirable to do so. What is also admirable is saying "You are in my house, I am enforcing my rules." You aint got that in you. Must come from a place of weakness or insecurity. That's why your house will get overrun mate. And you'll allow it to happen. Because you are prey.

Hey, maybe it's just a part of the cyclical nature of life. Eye for an eye. The chickens come home to roost. Comeuppance.

Honestly, you sound like a paranoid schizophrenic in your posts. Do you sit in a bunker with tin foil on your head with your stockpile of food and weapons just waiting for the inevitable helter skelter race war? :oldlol:

[KingBeasley08]

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/18290306.jpg

Jagger's posts are mind-numbingly stupid. I hope it's just a starface gimmick and not another idiot out there
its def starface. wrote that a couple pages ago.

[JaggerCommaMick]

Mates, I cannot find a story that documents any evidence of religious or discriminatory motive. Can somebody link me please, chaps? Thanks.



it was probably just a good guess when he posted it but now they're saying it was a bald white guy in his thirties, so...



Not one bloke here had a problem with this response.

Let it have been a minority that someone profiled or presumed against.... oh bloody hell, madness would have ensued.

Double standard from the insecure and acne riddle, angry teenagers. Shake your fist at life, mates! It's all the white man's fault!

Mates, in America, black people are responsible for like 90% of muder committed. You don't even care! You're more angry with me for simply stating that fact, than you are at the fact black Americans lead the developed world in murder on your own soil. It's not because they're black mates, it's because of black American culture. And you don't care! Once again, you're more mad at me for pointing it out than you are about it happening!

Cultural oversensitivity. Check your pants, mates. You mostly all have vaginers.

[Is He Ill]

go to dubai and do something as simple as make out on the beach and you go to jail .. are they bigots or intolerant ? .. no, they're just defending their country and how things are done there .. I don't see you bashing them for that .. stop making excuses for being a doormat .. you have no backbone .. anyone can go to the usa and do whatever the fk they want .. and the natives don't do shit about it .. you have no standards, no values, nothing to stand on .. in fact, they not only not do anything about it, they defend them .. pathetic .. now .. I'll await more of your excuses or ad hominem attacks :hammerhead:

:biggums: Huh? That looked like a paragraph of full retard dribble.

Anyway, this is sad news. It sucks that we have so many loons on this planet.

[JaggerCommaMick]

:biggums: Huh? That looked like a paragraph of full retard dribble.

Anyway, this is sad news. It sucks that we have so many loons on this planet.


It is sad, mate. And I regret what's become of this topic thread.

But I do think it's bloody outrageous that someone claimed it was obviously a hate crime, because the shooter was white, and not a person here batted an eye. But dare to compare Sikh's and Muslims as similar and it turned to a cacophony of bawling and brawling. Bloody incredible.

[Celtics4ever]

Mate, all over Europe right now Muslims are flooding in. They are not fleeing religious persecution. They can dress like this in their own countries:


http://rossrightangle.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/burka-1.jpg



They're only coming here to exploit economic opportunity in the countries that developed it over centuries through evolving European cultures and customs. They don't care about those cultures and customs. Of course, when there numbers are strong enough, they'll certainly take advantage of western democracy and slowly start tipping the scales. Europeans don't bloody well want to be modern day Indians. But the crybabies who cannot stand up for themselves against mindless idiots like you playing the race card allow themselves to be intimidated, or else their own insecurity leads to some absurd measure of guilt for being white and standing up to a person of color, or for whatever reason they put the interests of foreign immigrants above those in their own country. Guess what, mate? Maybe there's no perfect ideal solution that works 100% for them, and 100% for us. Well guess what? When you have to pick one or the other, we see who's a man, and we see who's afraid of conflict.

Mate, the merits of Sikh's have nothing to do with the bloody discussion. The fact of the matter is that to most people in the west, they do look like Muslims. I been to America many times, and I know they are generally a welcoming, inviting people, if you arrive with certain principles. Not wearing middle eastern cult garb is one of them. The fact that some Americans wear modest crosses is neither here nor there, mate. Americans are already in America. If you want to live there in peace you certainly can. But don't walk around advertising another culture that resembles one they are continuously in conflict. Bloody common sense, mate.

You can simply tell in these discussions who stands up for themselves, and who are the insecure, beta type males who are simply not born to be resolute. The reason you're so bloody inclusive mate is because you're afraid if you have standards you might well have to bloody back them up with some conflict. That's the heart of it, mate. Anyone can be welcoming, and it's certainly admirable to do so. What is also admirable is saying "You are in my house, I am enforcing my rules." You aint got that in you. Must come from a place of weakness or insecurity. That's why your house will get overrun mate. And you'll allow it to happen. Because you are prey.

What is your point? Do you not believe in people having different beliefs? You idiot. And for the last time, Sikhs are not Muslims.

[Celtics4ever]

Hey, maybe it's just a part of the cyclical nature of life. Eye for an eye. The chickens come home to roost. Comeuppance.

Honestly, you sound like a paranoid schizophrenic in your posts. Do you sit in a bunker with tin foil on your head with your stockpile of food and weapons just waiting for the inevitable helter skelter race war? :oldlol:

:roll: :roll:

I'm gonna stop arguing with this ignorant idiot.

[RRR3]

Awful. Sucks that shit like this ever happens. Heart goes out to them.


And "mick jagger",
STFU
You are a shitty gimmick. You're nothing like mick jagger you aren't even educated about some of his songs for Christs sake. Furthermore pretty sure mick isn't some xenophobic amecican prick

[tpols]

Jagger's right in that white people can be freely stereotyped against with absolutely no problem from anyone..

It was probably some stupid white racist hick. Fine.:confusedshrug:

But if we hear about any type of violent crime in a city and mention something negative about the black/minorities that did it and do it most of the time.. oh man.:rant

[artex]

damn . . sikhism is one of the most nonviolent religions

[artex]

??

[bluechox2]

jagger dude seems to me like a terrorist in the making, somebody should report him before he goes berserk in the uk against some minority group

[Celtics4ever]

damn . . sikhism is one of the most nonviolent religions

I agree. They are very peaceful. That's why I was very disturbed by hearing this. The gunman obviously confused them of being Muslims.

[artex]

I agree. They are very peaceful. That's why I was very disturbed by hearing this. The gunman obviously confused them of being Muslims.

yeah exactly , im indian and grew up in a hindu household . i know a lot of sikhs within our indian community here . pretty whack that this went down , what a ****ing coward .

[Heilige]

Is JaggerCommaMick starface?

[eriX]

retro spidey can you please post the meme of this post gave me cancer cause its exactly what i got after reading 'mick jaggers' post. :facepalm

[Sarcastic]

If only the people in the temple were armed to the teeth. Only then could this type of senseless violence could be stopped.

[lakerstekkenn]

JaggerCommaMick]
Mate, the merits of Sikh's have nothing to do with the bloody discussion. The fact of the matter is that to most people in the west, they do look like Muslims. I been to America many times, and I know they are generally a welcoming, inviting people, if you arrive with certain principles. Not wearing middle eastern cult garb is one of them.

The fact is most Americans Jews and Christians are suppose to look like Muslims

Turban old testament
Book of Exodus
28:4 -
"These are the garments which they shall make: a breast piece and an ephod and a robe and a tunic of checkered work, a turban and a sash, and they shall make holy garments for Aaron your brother and his sons, that he may minister as priest to Me.

28:37 -
"You shall fasten it on a blue cord, and it shall be on the turban; it shall be at the front of the turban.

Book of Leviticus
Chapter 8

8:9 -
He also placed the turban on his head, and on the turban, at its front, he placed the golden plate, the holy crown, just as the LORD had commanded Moses.

Book of Leviticus
Chapter 16 - Click for Chapter Audio

16:4 -
"He shall put on the holy linen tunic, and the linen undergarments shall be next to his body, and he shall be girded with the linen sash and attired with the linen turban (these are holy garments). Then he shall bathe his body in water and put them on.

HEAD-DRESS: By : Emil G. Hirsch Wilhelm Nowack

http://www.jewishdictionary.org/hebrew-words/head-covering.html

The Israelites most probably had a head-dress similar to that worn by the Bedouins. This consists of a keffieh folded into a triangle, and placed on the head with the middle ends hanging over the neck to protect it, while the other two are knotted together under the chin. A thick woolen cord ("'akal") holds the cloth firmly on the head.

28:39 -
"You shall weave the tunic of checkered work of fine linen, and shall make a turban of fine linen, and you shall make a sash, the work of a weaver.

:biggums: wtf i did not no that was in the Bible lol

Real Arabs Bedouins this is what Hebrews dressed like so should converts /Jews
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcErBThkTEk&feature=related

Now the ladies

1 Corinthians 11:6

New International Version (

[Go Getter]

:rolleyes:
I have Sikh friends and they are the most peaceful people and respectful people I know. Their religion is very peaceful too. They believe every religion believes in one god. Sikhs are often confused for Muslims because they wear turbans as well.

This is a hate crime. Shows how ignorant some of us Americans are.


So just because YOUR Sikh friends are peaceful it means all are as well?

I don't understand how it's a hate crime yet, it may be, or it may be a result of a crazy person. There are ignorant people in every group, not just in America.

[Go Getter]

Jagger's right in that white people can be freely stereotyped against with absolutely no problem from anyone..

It was probably some stupid white racist hick. Fine.:confusedshrug:

But if we hear about any type of violent crime in a city and mention something negative about the black/minorities that did it and do it most of the time.. oh man.:rant


:facepalm

Blacks get called violent thugs all the time in the media are you crazy?

And MOST violent crimes are commited by whites, the MAJORITY of people on welfare are whites, and the people who get away with the most henious shit are white as well.

Dude shot 30 some odd innocent people in Aphganistan: INNOCENT
Aurora shooter: "Oh he has mental issues"
Casey Anhtony: INNOCENT


Nobody calls Timothy McVeigh a terrorist even though he murdered little babies when he blew up that building....white people have the priviledge of being in power in this country and no matter what one white person does it won't sully their image.

After OJ killed that white woman cops were all over the brothers trying to exact revenge and stuff....that's why we pray that the offender in things like this aren't black.

[bluechox2]

whats with this recent string of white men going trigger happy

[Go Getter]

whats with this recent string of white men going trigger happy
Recent?

[bluechox2]

referring to all the recent shootings

[Go Getter]

referring to all the recent shootings


I guess random shootings have been going on a lot lately but gun violence is nothing new.

[nightprowler10]

WTF is the point of turning this thread in to blacks vs whites?

[Go Getter]

WTF is the point of turning this thread in to blacks vs whites?
The same point as in the Trayon thread. I don't get it either...black people had nothing to do with this.....seems like everytime a white person does a crime it has to be spun on blacks and how blacks somehow get better treatment than whites in the media (which is, of course, absurdity at it's worst).

[nightprowler10]

??
Ignore me. I was half-asleep and being a dick. The point was that Sikhism has a very violent past, but its a stupid point because every religion has one.

[Celtics4ever]

Ignore me. I was half-asleep and being a dick. The point was that Sikhism has a very violent past, but its a stupid point because every religion has one.

I agree every religion had a violent past, but Sikhs had to be violent in the past to fight the Muslims because the Muslims were going around forcing people to convert to islam. So they were fighting for religious freedom.

[lakerstekkenn]

black crime vs white crime lets play np you will lose who kills more lets play the game :roll: : i will make a fool of you like i did lol

[lakerstekkenn]

dont go there lets use numbers np dont test me lets se iff he has balls

[lakerstekkenn]

I agree every religion had a violent past, but Sikhs had to be violent in the past to fight the Muslims because the Muslims were going around forcing people to convert to islam. So they were fighting for religious freedom.
you lie Muslims never forced any one to convert that's a
lie

[lakerstekkenn]

why do you lie you just lie cause you don't no what Muslim forced you to convert when was that

[lakerstekkenn]

the Brit has the balls i will make you look stupid dont do it kills lies your on crack evil black guys kill ok lets see :roll: the black guy is evil so you say lets see

[Scholar]

I noticed yesterday that this shooting hasn't been getting much coverage. They'd mention it but then move on to something else.
That's America for you. If you don't know what I'm referring to exactly, don't sweat it.

[lakerstekkenn]

Muslims because the Muslims were going around forcing people to convert to islam. So they were fighting for religious freedom.

when was that bull shit going on tell me i cant wait to her that make my day :oldlol:

[lakerstekkenn]

I noticed yesterday that this shooting hasn't been getting much coverage. They'd mention it but then move on to something else.
That's America for you. If you don't know what I'm referring to exactly, don't sweat it.
there not white no one cares if black people get killed so what real world whites could give a dame dont you get it they dont care about us all they are black anyone tell you different is a lier

[lakerstekkenn]

there black people that got killed no one gives a dam they are African

[lakerstekkenn]

dam where is he the Brit i cant wait to debate him

[lakerstekkenn]

we are all black people they dont care about us get it

real world

[lakerstekkenn]

still waiting to se how we forced you to convert to Islam

good luck with that one

[lakerstekkenn]

black kid got shot in a police car in cuffs but they said he shot himself sure how in a police care with cuffs on and he had a gun in him after the arrest magic gun

whore hillbilly cops shot him thats the truth white cops cuff behind the back and shot himself in the head and you believe this :applause: ok but its not news i wonder why they killed him he gets no media no justice why a black man

[lakerstekkenn]

STFU. It's no secret us white folks don't like yer kind.
its out bronco fan truth comes out better not make friends with the brothers

[lakerstekkenn]

at least we dont rape kids thats you 99% are white stats in you ass

[Sarcastic]

black kid got shot in a police car in cuffs but they said he shot himself sure how in a police care with cuffs on and he had a gun in him after the arrest magic gun

whore hillbilly cops shot him thats the truth white cops cuff behind the back and shot himself in the head and you believe this :applause: ok but its not news i wonder why they killed him he gets no media no justice why a black man


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/arkansas-police-chief-calls-death-chavis-carter-bizarre-21-year-old-dies-gunshot-wound-head-police-custody-article-1.1129668

[ImmortalD24]

What the he'll happened to this thread? It has become a cesspool of idiots. :facepalm

Some of the comments I've read here has been really disappointing to say the least.. I'm not even going to get into the sheer idiocy from the mcjag gimmick.

Why do I get the impression that some here feel it would be just had this heinous crime was committed against Muslims in a mosque? The level of idiocy on this board.. unbelievable.


Sent from Playbook

[lakerstekkenn]

another stat 99% cereal killers are white male stats in your ass :roll: :biggums:

what the hell i didnjt no that

[lakerstekkenn]

99% whites have incest with there kids stats in the ass :roll:

:wtf: :biggums: white people

i see no Brit mate

[lakerstekkenn]

i have nothing against whites but when you talk trash better be ready to get it i love all people im mixed just dont be dumb

[lakerstekkenn]

I rape and kill bitches errday. Usually black folks... what's your point?
stats rape lets see no 50 50

[Lebron23]

i have nothing against whites but when you talk trash better be ready to get it i love all people im mixed just dont be dumb


I just reported you to the administrator. Your $hitty jokes ruined this thread.

[lakerstekkenn]

but you cant show military rape that goes on nice try

[ImmortalD24]

To lakerstekkenn and Goliath Uterus

Can you guys take your little squabble to PM? Stop spamming this thread.. Thanks in advanced.

[lakerstekkenn]

I just reported you to the administrator. Your $hitty jokes ruined this thread.
i teach you need to teach to oh well its no joke my people are dying only when your people die its a mass globe oh my god help is

[lakerstekkenn]

report report so truth hurts

[lakerstekkenn]

ask him if he wants a law suit for racism

[ImmortalD24]

ask him if he wants a law suit for racism
Dude, you can go away now.

[tpols]

:facepalm

Blacks get called violent thugs all the time in the media are you crazy?

And MOST violent crimes are commited by whites, the MAJORITY of people on welfare are whites, and the people who get away with the most henious shit are white as well.

Dude shot 30 some odd innocent people in Aphganistan: INNOCENT
Aurora shooter: "Oh he has mental issues"
Casey Anhtony: INNOCENT
.
I wasnt even talking about the media.. I was talking about how people talk on here and in daily life. You can stereotype white people as crazy serial killers any time an event like this happens to pretty much anyone and everythings straight.. but ever say a stereotype about black guys being thugs out loud in public. Woah:eek: :oldlol: It's the same way on here, you'll get called a racist, bigot etc.

No shit whites commit more violent crimes.. we have like quadruple the amount of people. On a relative basis though? Blacks blow whites away especially with murder. What a stupid argument. With an analogy to bball, Black players score 30 ppg in 10 minutes while white guys score 30 ppg in 40. Points are bad here.

People dont want to offend minorities and I agree with that. Just have it go both ways and dont say it about either or expect both.

[lakerstekkenn]

I wasnt even talking about the media.. I was talking about how people talk on here and in daily life. You can stereotype white people as crazy serial killers any time an event like this happens to pretty much anyone and everythings straight.. but ever say a stereotype about black guys being thugs out loud in public. Woah:eek: :oldlol: It's the same way on here, you'll get called a racist, bigot etc.

No shit whites commit more violent crimes.. we have like quadruple the amount of people. On a relative basis though? Blacks blow whites away especially with murder. What a stupid argument. With an analogy to bball, Black players score 30 ppg in 10 minutes while white guys score 30 ppg in 40. Points are bad here.

People dont want to offend minorities and I agree with that. Just have it go both ways and dont say it about either or expect both.

i never said you did my debate isent with you its with the Brit i have no problem with you chill we are good

[lakerstekkenn]

the problem is crime not race its crime race is a factor but its still crime i hope you get it pac said a great thing you have food people who dont have it will cry give us food feed us then a week goes by we get more hungry they beat the doors food we are hungry another week we want food locks are getting picked

another week in coming in blasting kill you all fore food he used it as a rap song it was real life that was real deep and life you need to see that

[lakerstekkenn]

thats why blacks die to eat there not violent they wont food do what you have to do to live

[lakerstekkenn]

its the system not the people Canada has no problems you no over 50% own homes in Canada free health care America its crazy greed race poor drugs

who brings in the drugs blacks no who government we all no that you cant even get health care Canada can wake up greed will kill us Canada has no problems not like us wake up

[lakerstekkenn]

homes are paid for in Canada paid off over 50%

90% in America are due no money homes most will lose them who is doing things right us or them? them they get it we are fools its greed

[nightprowler10]

I agree every religion had a violent past, but Sikhs had to be violent in the past to fight the Muslims because the Muslims were going around forcing people to convert to islam. So they were fighting for religious freedom.
I don't think they were fighting for freedom in 1947 when trains full of Muslim body parts were coming to Lahore...

[KevinNYC]

The other thread has bogged down in squabbles, so I thought I would create a new thread.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2012/08/06/the_sikh_temple_shooter_and_his_lousy_racist_hardc ore_bands.html

[QUOTE]Mark Potok and the Southern Poverty Law Center report that Sikh temple shooting suspect Wade Michael Page is "a frustrated neo-Nazi who had been the leader of a racist white-power band." The best evidence for this, right now, is a 2010 interview that Page gave to Label 56, to talk about his band End Apathy.
"I went to the Hammerfest 2000 in Georgia." That was a "hate rock" festival, put on by the Hammerskin organization for a number of years.
"That

[cuad]

lol... kill non-whites, ur a nazi and white supremacist. **********'s going to be mad over this.

[Rasheed1]

I wasnt even talking about the media.. I was talking about how people talk on here and in daily life. You can stereotype white people as crazy serial killers any time an event like this happens to pretty much anyone and everythings straight.. but ever say a stereotype about black guys being thugs out loud in public. Woah:eek: :oldlol: It's the same way on here, you'll get called a racist, bigot etc.

No shit whites commit more violent crimes.. we have like quadruple the amount of people. On a relative basis though? Blacks blow whites away especially with murder. What a stupid argument. With an analogy to bball, Black players score 30 ppg in 10 minutes while white guys score 30 ppg in 40. Points are bad here.

People dont want to offend minorities and I agree with that. Just have it go both ways and dont say it about either or expect both.


:biggums: What does any of that have to do with this subject?


You get this trend on the Internet where no matter what the topic is? it turns into white people complaining about black people..

Everything turns into a thread about how black people get away with everything :oldlol:

[Celtics4ever]

So turns out (like most expected) that the guy who killed people at the Sikh Temple thought he was killing Muslims. He had a 911 tattoo on his arm and he was an ex military person. How ignorant can someone be? This guy went to kill innocent kids/adults in a peaceful temple thinking he was doing what he believed was right, but the idiot didn't do enough research to figure out that he's going to a Sikh temple and the Sikh religion isn't anywhere close to the Muslim religion. I'm not saying it would be right for him to kill Muslims, but I'm just shocked at how stupid someone can be.

I hope this guy rots in hell and I'm glad he was shot.

[DeuceWallaces]

I'm glad you made your own thread. I was looking for your take on this issue, but I couldn't find it in the other two threads.

[Sarcastic]

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/718079/thumbs/r-WADE-MICHAEL-PAGE-SIKH-TEMPLE-SHOOTER-huge.jpg

[demons2005]

theblaze.com: "IT'S CALLED MENTAL ILLNESS. the media is trying to portray all american racist nationalists as pyschotic killers whenever this happens. But they give a pass to the muslims when a terrorist kills some kids wah wah wah wah we white supremacists are always discriminated against"

[Celtics4ever]

I'm glad you made your own thread. I was looking for your take on this issue, but I couldn't find it in the other two threads.

I actually made a lot of comments about this in the original thread

[Celtics4ever]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?p=7647412&posted=1#post7647412

I made a thread about this guy. Reports say that he had a 911 tattoo on his arm.

[DonDadda59]

So basically, if I see someone who looks and dresses like this:

http://cdn.eurweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/timothy_mcveigh2012-med-wide.jpg

I'm justified in assuming they're terrorists who belong to underground militias and they will blow up buildings in this country, killing hundreds? :confusedshrug:

Would you be defending me on this board if I walked into an army base with guns and ammo I got from Walmart and the internet and killed/injured dozens of soldiers?

Do you seriously not see how ignorant and narrow-minded your 'reasoning' is or are you just trolling?

Police identify Army veteran as Wisconsin temple shooting gunman (http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/06/us/wisconsin-temple-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)

So... when do we start stigmatizing and stereotyping against all US army servicemen and women for the actions of a handful of loose canons? Can we now label army fatigues as 'terrorist garb'? :confusedshrug:

[OhNoTimNoSho]

I actually made a lot of comments about this in the original thread
your ability to detect sarcasm is broken

[blablabla]

I'm glad you made your own thread. I was looking for your take on this issue, but I couldn't find it in the other two threads.
:oldlol:

[Celtics4ever]

your ability to detect sarcasm is broken

The irony.

Go read my comment again. Your ability to detect sarcasm is broken.

[LJJ]

The irony.

Go read my comment again. Your ability to detect sarcasm is broken.

At least we know your ability to create threads with no substance, about incidents that already have multiple perfectly serviceable threads on the first page, is working just fine!

[SourPatchKids]

That guy should stick needles in all of his toenails and then kick a wall.

[Meticode]

Thanks for making this thread. I felt moved by your take on it.

[Ass Dan]

Sarcasm detection is either broken or set on high.

Very confusing. And if the OP is correct, then this is the culmination of all the stupidity that this nation has endured.

This is the idiot high water mark.

[dude77]

So turns out (like most expected) that the guy who killed people at the Sikh Temple thought he was killing Muslims. He had a 911 tattoo on his arm and he was an ex military person. How ignorant can someone be? This guy went to kill innocent kids/adults in a peaceful temple thinking he was doing what he believed was right, but the idiot didn't do enough research to figure out that he's going to a Sikh temple and the Sikh religion isn't anywhere close to the Muslim religion. I'm not saying it would be right for him to kill Muslims, but I'm just shocked at how stupid someone can be.

I hope this guy rots in hell and I'm glad he was shot.

you really have a hard on for the sikh people don't ya

[bada bing]

yes it would be okay if this guy entered a mosque and killed muslims right?

it would be less of a tragedy right?

[-p.tiddy-]

yes it would be okay if this guy entered a mosque and killed muslims right?

it would be less of a tragedy right?
then he would just be the second most ignorant man in the world...behind the Batman shooter who thought the Joker had orange hair

[dude77]

then he would just be the second most ignorant man in the world...behind the Batman shooter who thought the Joker had orange hair

:oldlol:

[CelticBaller]

the guy turned out to be racist


like no shit yo

[miller-time]

yes it would be okay if this guy entered a mosque and killed muslims right?

it would be less of a tragedy right?

:rolleyes: that isn't the point. the point is that the events highlight the ignorance of the killer, and possibly like minded people too. both events would be equally tragic, but this event further demonstrates how ignorant (and therefore wrong) the guy was.

[Celtics4ever]

Education:

http://edition.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t1#/video/bestoftv/2012/08/06/exp-erin-the-number-sikhism.cnn

[Scholar]

People are murdered and all anyone discusses is the shooter. RIP to the fellow human beings who passed.

[dunksby]

Would not happen if those ******* had guns too.