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waseem780
08-05-2012, 03:47 PM
He was projected first overall in 2001 a beast in high school why wasnt he a good/great NBA player? he was often compared to Kevin Garnett coming out of highschool aswell.

Soundwave
08-05-2012, 03:49 PM
Had all the physical tools, didn't have the heart or brain to go with it.

KyrieTheFuture
08-05-2012, 03:52 PM
Baby hands

MrWarrior
08-05-2012, 03:53 PM
I would say it was mostly a mental block. With his physical abilities he should atleast have become a solid backup.

bleedinpurpleTwo
08-05-2012, 03:54 PM
Like so many players, once he left the Lakers, he was never heard from again.
Remember Smush? Cook? where the hell Mbenga?

TMacMagic
08-05-2012, 03:55 PM
Does this question really need to be asked? :biggums:

Owl
08-05-2012, 04:01 PM
He was projected first overall in 2001 a beast in high school why wasnt he a good/great NBA player? he was often compared to Kevin Garnett coming out of highschool aswell.
Many factors

1) HS Level is difficult to evaluate because of wildly varying levels of talent. He wasn't nearly as good as advertised.
2) Overreliance on workouts. Perhaps because he hadn't played consistently against even college level talent, some evaluators including MJ put too much stock into workouts, including one where substantially outplayed Tyson Chandler. Again, he just wasn't that good.
3) Terrible nurturing environment. MJ the GOAT effectively the GM had a lot riding on him being good quickly (MJ wanted to compete whilst he was playing), he had little patience and an acid tongue. After a brief honeymoon period MJ started humiliating Kwame in practice, which surely damaged his confidence and commitment to the game.
4) His physical tools were overrated. This includes his tiny hands.
5) Coming out of HS it was a potential pick based on future improvement. We've shown that he didn't have as much potential as was thought, and was in a poor situation to develop, but a high school pick (with the risks in accurately judging where they are now and in projecting how they will improve) were inherantly a high risk proposition (albeit they could be high reward, see Josh Smith 2004 17th pick).

JMT
08-05-2012, 04:02 PM
Brown was compared to Garnett only in the fact that both came straight from high school.

Garnett was a freakish specimen. Though his skill set was still developing, he was the best athlete on the floor. You could see that he had all the requisite tools to develop a well rounded offensive game. He looked comfortable facing the hoop, even if his shot wasn't there yet.

Brown was a big kid playing against high school competition. Though he moved well for his size, there were real questions about his ability to play anywhere except right at the front of the rim. HS bigs who dominate due to their size vs their skill are a dime a dozen.

DuMa
08-05-2012, 04:03 PM
couldnt handle being called a fcuking f@gg0t

Math2
08-05-2012, 04:03 PM
Didn't he just sign with Philly?

JMT
08-05-2012, 04:07 PM
Didn't he just sign with Philly?

Yes. Probably as good a fit as there is for him. They're desperate for some interior defense, and Brown has actually matured into a decent defensive center.

Nash
08-05-2012, 04:08 PM
http://blog.fansaloon.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/kwame-brown-is-awful-300x206.jpg

alwaysunny
08-05-2012, 04:17 PM
Many factors

1) HS Level is difficult to evaluate because of wildly varying levels of talent. He wasn't nearly as good as advertised.
2) Overreliance on workouts. Perhaps because he hadn't played consistently against even college level talent, some evaluators including MJ put too much stock into workouts, including one where substantially outplayed Tyson Chandler. Again, he just wasn't that good.
3) Terrible nurturing environment. MJ the GOAT effectively the GM had a lot riding on him being good quickly (MJ wanted to compete whilst he was playing), he had little patience and an acid tongue. After a brief honeymoon period MJ started humiliating Kwame in practice, which surely damaged his confidence and commitment to the game.
4) His physical tools were overrated. This includes his tiny hands.
5) Coming out of HS it was a potential pick based on future improvement. We've shown that he didn't have as much potential as was thought, and was in a poor situation to develop, but a high school pick (with the risks in accurately judging where they are now and in projecting how they will improve) were inherantly a high risk proposition (albeit they could be high reward, see Josh Smith 2004 17th pick).

This is probably the biggest factor. MJ and Kobe's 'in your face' mentality can make or break you, and it broke Kwame. Sad because he showed what he can do from time to time, especially that game against the Kings.

I think he could've been decent if he was led by player like LeBron, who has more of a joyful personality.

ProfessorMurder
08-05-2012, 04:18 PM
I would say it was mostly a mental block. With his physical abilities he should atleast have become a solid backup.

He is a solid back up. He can get like 8/8.

PickernRoller
08-05-2012, 04:28 PM
Nothing happened, he became a millionaire and still gets paid millions for just being on the court and get his hand on the ball sometimes. I wanna be a Kwame Brown......could care little what the media says. We talking about millions here...

FireDavidKahn
08-05-2012, 04:34 PM
He only had to work on two things to be a good player in this league, offense and defense. He failed at both.

riseagainst
08-05-2012, 05:23 PM
http://blog.fansaloon.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/kwame-brown-is-awful-300x206.jpg

:roll:

GOBB
08-05-2012, 05:56 PM
He is a solid back up. He can get like 8/8.

Career 7ppg 6rpb. Only 3 times he has avg atleast 8ppg. 0 times has he ever avg 8rpg, only once has he ever avg 7rpg. But he can get you 8/8.

Would you like to make up something else where you're at it sir? He can get you 1.5bpg you say? :roll:

Fiasco
08-05-2012, 06:00 PM
GOBB is going to be his MJ in Philly.

ProfessorMurder
08-05-2012, 06:04 PM
Career 7ppg 6rpb. Only 3 times he has avg atleast 8ppg. 0 times has he ever avg 8rpg, only once has he ever avg 7rpg. But he can get you 8/8.

Would you like to make up something else where you're at it sir? He can get you 1.5bpg you say? :roll:

Never said he averaged it dickhole. I said he can get you 8/8.

He's plenty capable of getting 8/8, done it over 100 times.

GOBB
08-05-2012, 06:14 PM
Never said he averaged it dickhole. I said he can get you 8/8.

He's plenty capable of getting 8/8, done it over 100 times.

In 585gms he's BARELY got atleast 8 and 8 100 times. And right on cue with the semantics card. :rolleyes:


GOBB is going to be his MJ in Philly.

Indeed

MrWarrior
08-05-2012, 06:18 PM
He is a solid back up. He can get like 8/8.

My bad, just checked he played 9 games last year, started 3 at 21 mpg. :eek:

He's so irrelevant I didn't even notice he got minutes.

QuebecBaller
08-05-2012, 07:00 PM
Didn't he just sign with Philly?

Hawes
Brown
Iggy
Turner
Holiday

Remember this lineup
:D

Kiddlovesnets
08-05-2012, 09:25 PM
He just aint as good as what people thought, as an NBA player he had a solid career it just did not meet the dramatic expectation everyone had on him when he was drafted as No.1 pick.