US olympic team now tied with Argentina, anyone still think they have a shot vs 92?

[BlueandGold]

anyone think the 92 would have any difficulty at all in blowing out the 2012 olympic team?

[IGOTGAME]

lol at thinking a team that lives on jumpers could beat a team with beasts in the paint and the greatest player of all time. Just talk a step back and remember how good David Robinson, Patrick Ewing, Charles Barkley and Karl Malone were....

[RazorBaLade]

i think they have a chance to beat them 1 game


this team would play a lot harder and more srs

[BlueandGold]

lol at thinking a team that lives on jumpers could beat a team with beasts in the paint and the greatest player of all time. Just talk a step back and remember how good David Robinson, Patrick Ewing, Charles Barkley and Karl Malone were....
Yep, this was the first and most obvious argument I (and many) used at the time to totally debunk the notion that the 2012 would have any shot.

The 92 dream team is the best basketball team ever assembled and most likely the best fielded team of all time. They were the most complete basketball team of all time. They had no weakness. Best frontcourt of all time (the 2012 team doesn't even have the best NBA frontcourt at the present time), best backcourt of all time, best combo/wing players of all time, some of the best defenders of all time, some of the best shooters of all time, the list goes on.

[blacknapalm]

does this thread have to be made every game? anyway, not even sure this team beats the redeem team or the '70 team

[BlueandGold]

does this thread have to be made every game? anyway, not even sure this team beats the redeem team or the '70 team
every game that the US barely manages to win and is incredibly close down the stretch, especially considering how big of a talent/experience/skill difference exists between the US and Argentina.

[fpliii]

the world was much farther behind in 92

I think the 12 team is appreciably better than these international teams, but it's not like all of these squads are featuring scrubs 1-12

there's a different mentality in the international game as well...every guy is afraid to take his shots and play selfishly (well, except Melo), to the extent that their offenses are going to be a wash with the other top international squads featuring 2-3 all-star caliber players; there's a huge gap between the US and the rest of the world defensively, but with only one true big in the rotation (two if you count Davis, but he hasn't logged heavy enough minutes to make a huge difference), you have to play your defense on the perimeter (which isn't ideal)

for the record I don't know which team would win in a seven-game series, but neither squad would be truly outclassed

[longhornfan1234]

96 >> 92 team.

[BrickingStar]

Lol at you guys acting like 92 ever faced a team of argentinas caliber no one is even close to argentina back then cmon now the game has grown:facepalm

[BlueandGold]

the world was much farther behind in 92

I think the 12 team is appreciably better than these international teams, but it's not like all of these squads are featuring scrubs 1-12

there's a different mentality in the international game as well...every guy is afraid to take his shots and play selfishly (well, except Melo), to the extent that their offenses are going to be a wash with the other top international squads featuring 2-3 all-star caliber players; there's a huge gap between the US and the rest of the world defensively, but with only one true big in the rotation (two if you count Davis, but he hasn't logged heavy enough minutes to make a huge difference), you have to play your defense on the perimeter (which isn't ideal)

for the record I don't know which team would win in a seven-game series, but neither squad would be truly outclassed

That makes no sense. Why on earth would "guys be afraid to take his shot and play selfishly?". I don't even see what your talking about people are taking their shots as they come to them.

The US should be dominating every team in the tournament. The 7th, 8th and 9th best players on the US team would easily be the best 1,2 and 3 players on any team in the tourny, especially Lithuania :facepalm

Euroleague existed back in 92 like it does back there. There were talented international players back then in Divac, Drazen, Kukoc back then as well. Regardless of whether what you said is true or not (it's not) the US would still wipe the floor with this 2012 team.

You start by stating that international play was "farther behind" in 92 yet make no argument for the 2012 team even having a shot against the 92.


Lol at you guys acting like 92 ever faced a team of argentinas caliber no one is even close to argentina back then cmon now the game has grown

The US has now played two close games in a row, the 92 team never faced a deficit during the entire tournament, the 2012 team was down by 10 against Lithuania :facepalm

[crisoner]

Keep in mind that the comp now is much much much more stringer then it was in 92.

[Noob Saibot]

Argentina beating 1992 dream team, nah. too much ball movement and fast breaks.

[IGOTGAME]

Argentina beating 1992 dream team, nah. too much ball movement and fast breaks.

A locked in Jordan and Pippen is locking down whoever needs to be locked down on the perimeter. D-Rob would put the clamps on Scola while causing havoc out there. Barkley would be throwing Argentines around like rag dolls. Guy would manhandle Scola. It would be bad. Especially if they somehow pissed off Barkley, Malone or Jordan. Argentina would get outrebounded by so much.

[BrickingStar]

The US has now played two close games in a row, the 92 team never faced a deficit during the entire tournament, the 2012 team was down by 10 against Lithuania :facepalm


What the **** does that have to do with anything I said you really want me to compare teams like likth/argentina/spain ect with the shit teams the the 92 teams faced? You don't think our current team could not achieve playing against shit teams back in 92 and not face any deficit? I do 92 had no international teams with talent.

[BrickingStar]

A locked in Jordan and Pippen is locking down whoever needs to be locked down on the perimeter. D-Rob would put the clamps on Scola while causing havoc out there. Barkley would be throwing Argentines around like rag dolls. Guy would manhandle Scola. It would be bad. Especially if they somehow pissed off Barkley, Malone or Jordan. Argentina would get outrebounded by so much.

Jordan didn't ever lock in 92 so why are you expecting him to do so in 2012 against way better teams?

[IGOTGAME]

Jordan didn't ever lock in 92 so why are you expecting him to do so in 2012 against way better teams?

because I doubt he would drinking and ****ing different bitches every night if he knew they would face decent teams.

[fpliii]

That makes no sense. Why on earth would "guys be afraid to take his shot and play selfishly?". I don't even see what your talking about people are taking their shots as they come to them.

The US should be dominating every team in the tournament. The 7th, 8th and 9th best players on the US team would easily be the best 1,2 and 3 players on any team in the tourny, especially Lithuania :facepalm

Euroleague existed back in 92 like it does back there. There were talented international players back then in Divac, Drazen, Kukoc back then as well. Regardless of whether what you said is true or not (it's not) the US would still wipe the floor with this 2012 team.

You start by stating that international play was "farther behind" in 92 yet make no argument for the 2012 team even having a shot against the 92.

I honestly don't know why guys are playing like this...both teams clearly outclass their respective opposition, and I haven't kept track of it, but it really looks like every guy is declining to play his standard game; how would you explain it?

regarding 7-9 being better than 1-3, that isn't true with Spain, and based on familiarity with international competition, this may not be the case with France, Russia, Argentina either; "best" as an absolute here is not appropriate for comparison, since "best" doesn't always stand out in a single game

what are you basing your assessment that the '92' team would wipe the floor with this current cast? the three players you cited were standouts for sure, but Petrovic aside the elite international players of today (Parker, Ginobili, Scola in international play, both Gasols Ibaka, Kirilenko in international play, Nene, a couple of others) are comparable if not better to nearly every other international player in 92

I didn't give the 2012 team a shot, I just said they wouldn't be "outclassed" (outclassed = run off the floor, blown out by 25+ points every game without fail); I have no clue what would happen if the two teams played

[Real Men Wear Green]

Only if they bench Kobe.

[AlonzoGOAT]

lol with benched kobe and how were playing right now yeah we'll spankthem are you watching the game? Were beating a team that out talents every other team in 92 and it's not close.

[fatboy11]

This Argentina team was far superior to any team outside of the Dream Team in '92.

This is a joke thread and classic ISH logic. Bunch of amateurs around here.

[Sarcastic]

OP's logic: If the US hasn't blown the game open by the second quarter, then the sky is falling.

[AlonzoGOAT]

The dumbass OP doesn't factor the teams they faced except themselves if he's not retarded and was actually alive back then he'd know the difference in international talent from the past to present

[OldSchoolBBall]

Jordan didn't ever lock in 92 so why are you expecting him to do so in 2012 against way better teams?

Shows how little you know (as if we needed more evidence). Jordan's full-court pressure defense against opposing PG's and ballhandlers was a huge part of the Dream Team's success, sparking many of their fastbreaks. Guys could barely get the ball across halfcourt against him many games. He was nicknamed "The Glove" by Chuck Daly during those Olympics (before Gary Payton was dubbed that a couple of years later) and averaged nearly 5 steals per game (yes, you read that correctly) along with numerous other blocks, deflections, bad forced shots etc.

Learn the history of the game before you open your mouth.

[G-train]

This Argentina team was far superior to any team outside of the Dream Team in '92.

This is a joke thread and classic ISH logic. Bunch of amateurs around here.

You look amateur here.
'92 Croatia and Lithuania are better than this Argentinian team. I don't really see an argument.

[fatboy11]

You look amateur here.
'92 Croatia and Lithuania are better than this Argentinian team. I don't really see an argument.

More individually talented, but game is played better by today's international teams. They're far more familiar with playing against NBA athletes and the coaching is also a lot better. They're no longer in awe of NBA stars like they were in '92.

Sure, "far superior" was hyperbole, but I think this Argentina could beat '92 Lithuania and Croatia. The world has just gotten that much better at basketball. And today's players, even international players, have gotten more athletic.

But the point still remains the same - this thread was created because Team USA was only up 1 point at half. Classic ISH. The only place where a team can lost a game for being up only 1 at halftime.

[liquidrage]

You look amateur here.
'92 Croatia and Lithuania are better than this Argentinian team. I don't really see an argument.

I do. Croatia's best player in 92 was a borderline All-star guard that was not good defensively.

He was no better a player than Luol Deng is. No, he wasn't. He had 1 all-nba 3rd team to his name. Was known as a bad defender that at least tried. He wasn't a great player. He died early.

By comparision Manu is a better player with more accolades, accomplishments, experience.

They also had young Kukoc who ended up playing several years in the NBA. One 6th man once, never made an all-star team, never an all-nba team.

He was good, but no better then Scola.

They had several other quality players for the time, but not a lot of special players.

And that's comparing them to the time, let alone how much better players are today.

[get these NETS]

You look amateur here.
'92 Croatia and Lithuania are better than this Argentinian team. I don't really see an argument.


have to agree.

former soviet bloc countries of 88-96 were as good as any non USA team before or since


and it's silly for people to think that any team of basketball players could beat the 92 team.....much less a watered down team usa with james harden

[Euroleague]

2012 Team is nowhere close to the '92 team. Anyone saying otherwise should be banned.

[Euroleague]

Lol at you guys acting like 92 ever faced a team of argentinas caliber no one is even close to argentina back then cmon now the game has grown:facepalm


'92 Lithuania and '92 Croatia > 2012 Argentina

[Euroleague]

Keep in mind that the comp now is much much much more stringer then it was in 92.

False.

[BrickingStar]

2012 Team is nowhere close to the '92 team. Anyone saying otherwise should be banned.
Greece got destroyed by nigeria why are you acting like anything you say is valid GTFO

[BrickingStar]

Shows how little you know (as if we needed more evidence). Jordan's full-court pressure defense against opposing PG's and ballhandlers was a huge part of the Dream Team's success, sparking many of their fastbreaks. Guys could barely get the ball across halfcourt against him many games. He was nicknamed "The Glove" by Chuck Daly during those Olympics (before Gary Payton was dubbed that a couple of years later) and averaged nearly 5 steals per game (yes, you read that correctly) along with numerous other blocks, deflections, bad forced shots etc.

Learn the history of the game before you open your mouth.
Not impressed how is locking down scrubs impressive? They faced todays D league

[dunksby]

Typical ISH knee jerk thread, same people were saying 2012 would beat the 92 team after they demolished Nigeria.

[Euroleague]

I honestly don't know why guys are playing like this...both teams clearly outclass their respective opposition, and I haven't kept track of it, but it really looks like every guy is declining to play his standard game; how would you explain it?

regarding 7-9 being better than 1-3, that isn't true with Spain, and based on familiarity with international competition, this may not be the case with France, Russia, Argentina either; "best" as an absolute here is not appropriate for comparison, since "best" doesn't always stand out in a single game

what are you basing your assessment that the '92' team would wipe the floor with this current cast? the three players you cited were standouts for sure, but Petrovic aside the elite international players of today (Parker, Ginobili, Scola in international play, both Gasols Ibaka, Kirilenko in international play, Nene, a couple of others) are comparable if not better to nearly every other international player in 92

I didn't give the 2012 team a shot, I just said they wouldn't be "outclassed" (outclassed = run off the floor, blown out by 25+ points every game without fail); I have no clue what would happen if the two teams played

You are a ****ing idiot.

Drazen Petrovic, Arvydas Sabonis, Toni Kukoc, Dino Radja, Sarunas Marciulonis, Oscar Schmidt, Detlef Schrempf, Sergei Bazarevich, Andrew Gaze, Shane Heal, Alberto Herreros, Arturas Karnisovas, Rimas Kurtinaitis, Velimir Perasovic, Epi, Valeri Tikhonenko, Stojan Vrankovic, Alexander Volkov, Zan Tabak



yeah no good international players in '92...........

put down the ****ing crack pipe.

[Rooster]

You are a ****ing idiot.

Drazen Petrovic, Arvydas Sabonis, Toni Kukoc, Dino Radja, Sarunas Marciulonis, Oscar Schmidt, Detlef Schrempf, Sergei Bazarevich, Andrew Gaze, Shane Heal, Alberto Herreros, Arturas Karnisovas, Rimas Kurtinaitis, Velimir Perasovic, Epi, Valeri Tikhonenko, Stojan Vrankovic, Alexander Volkov, Zan Tabak



yeah no good international players in '92...........

put down the ****ing crack pipe.


Compare to now, that's a weak list. Too many scrubs after Schrempf. :oldlol:

[scandisk_]

Jordan didn't ever lock in 92 so why are you expecting him to do so in 2012 against way better teams?


Not impressed how is locking down scrubs impressive? They faced todays D league

:mad:

[Euroleague]

Compare to now, that's a weak list. Too many scrubs after Schrempf. :oldlol:

You are a god damn retard.

[Rooster]

You are a god damn retard.

Y'all Musta Forgot:no:

Hakeem Olajuwon:bowdown:

Nigeria > Greece:lol

[Euroleague]

Y'all Musta Forgot:no:

Hakeem Olajuwon:bowdown:

Nigeria > Greece:lol

Olajuwon isn't considered Nigerian you ****ing moron. He was kicked out of his own country and banished.

What a ****ing idiot you are calling him Nigerian.

[Rooster]

Olajuwon isn't considered Nigerian you ****ing moron. He was kicked out of his own country and banished.

What a ****ing idiot you are calling him Nigerian.

You can take Hakeem out of Nigeria but you can not take Nigerian from Hakeem.

Nigeria> Greece

[ILLsmak]

96 >> 92 team.

I still believe that.

-Smak

[NUPE_1911]

92, 96 and 08 teams would all beat the current 12 team. 92 and 96 would win by at least ten points. 08 would beat 12 but the games would be close.

[Rake2204]

Olajuwon isn't considered Nigerian you ****ing moron. He was kicked out of his own country and banished.
I was not aware he was kicked out of his own country and banished and I cannot readily find a link off hand. Can you please provide a linked story explaining the situation?


92, 96 and 08 teams would all beat the current 12 team. 92 and 96 would win by at least ten points. 08 would beat 12 but the games would be close.I believe I am in agreement. Clearly, the '12 team would be capable of winning. However, in terms of deciding which squad would win most frequently, I think the '12 team would come up quite short in each of those matchups. I still find their lack of superstar depth (particularly in the frontcourt) to be their primary issue. If Dwyane Wade, Derrick Rose, Blake Griffin, Chris Bosh, and Dwight Howard all played on this team though, I think that'd change the discussion entirely. But of course, that's merely hypothetical.

[LamarOdom]

Olajuwon isn't considered Nigerian you ****ing moron. He was kicked out of his own country and banished.

What a ****ing idiot you are calling him Nigerian.

If I'm born in Nigeria with Nigerian parents what should I be considered? Ethnically he is Nigerian.

[Euroleague]

I was not aware he was kicked out of his own country and banished and I cannot readily find a link off hand. Can you please provide a linked story explaining the situation?

Hakeem practices a form of Islam that is considered sacrilegious where he came from in Nigeria. So he has to live in Jordan.

[Euroleague]

If I'm born in Nigeria with Nigerian parents what should I be considered? Ethnically he is Nigerian.

Yes, of course he is ethnically. But that troll was talking about nationality-wise.

[get these NETS]

TIMEOUT!!!

Olajuwon didn't get banished from Nigeria...he became a naturalized American because he took exception to the way the government in Nigeria was being run.

Nigeria has at LEAST 50 ethnicities.....the last name generally indicates WHICH ethnicity a Nigerian belongs to...
yoruba,hausa,igbo,etc.etc.

he lives in Jordan because he wants to and he is probably learning arabic so that he can read and interpret the Koran for himself, much like the late (nfl)Reggie White was studying Hebrew to read and interpret the Bible for himself.



You can fill up the board with half truths regarding basketball...but don't make up "facts" about real life issues.

People will laugh off a basketball comment based on personal opinion, no matter how WRONG it is....but if you write false or uninformed comments about serious matters, people tend to think you are uneducated.

[niko]

Olajuwon isn't considered Nigerian you ****ing moron. He was kicked out of his own country and banished.

What a ****ing idiot you are calling him Nigerian.
Hakeem was not banished from Nigeria. Are you retarded?

[Droid101]

People will laugh off a basketball comment based on personal opinion, no matter how WRONG it is....but if you write false or uninformed comments about serious matters, people tend to think you are uneducated.
That ship has sailed long ago.

[plowking]

The US has now played two close games in a row, the 92 team never faced a deficit during the entire tournament, the 2012 team was down by 10 against Lithuania :facepalm

...

92 team was losing to Croatia in the final... so that is wrong.

[Kblaze8855]

This team having no shot vs 92 really is a joke. Its been shown time and time again that with even somewhat similar levels of talent anyone can win one game. A team with Penny, Grant Hill, Alan Houston, Mashburn, and like eric Montross...maybe Bobby Hurley...they beat the 92 team.

Playing its best at full potential? No.

But they won.

But Lebron, Durant, Kobe, Paul, and so on just have no chance?

Any team with enough legit world class(as in NBA or euroleague) players can beat anyone on a hot shooting night.

USA the way they shot against Nigeria...they could have played any combo of 12 players to ever pick up a ball and had a good game. Not to suggest they could shoot like that vs Jordan and Pippen types who take it personal and get up in them....but you know what I mean.

All world talent+hot shooting...play anyone having even a slightly off night you can win.

If some of these teams can play with America just off teamwork and hot shooting any American team after 88(98 aside) could beat any other once.

Even the 02 and 04 letdown teams could beat anyone...one time.

7 game series is another issue. But one night only?

Any team of superstars can beat any other even if the other group has more or has them at more important positions.

The game has shown us that too many times.

[Euroleague]

TIMEOUT!!!

Olajuwon didn't get banished from Nigeria...he became a naturalized American because he took exception to the way the government in Nigeria was being run.

Nigeria has at LEAST 50 ethnicities.....the last name generally indicates WHICH ethnicity a Nigerian belongs to...
yoruba,hausa,igbo,etc.etc.

he lives in Jordan because he wants to and he is probably learning arabic so that he can read and interpret the Koran for himself, much like the late (nfl)Reggie White was studying Hebrew to read and interpret the Bible for himself.



You can fill up the board with half truths regarding basketball...but don't make up "facts" about real life issues.

People will laugh off a basketball comment based on personal opinion, no matter how WRONG it is....but if you write false or uninformed comments about serious matters, people tend to think you are uneducated.

Hakeem's religion is considered sacrilegious where he came from in Nigeria. I'm not making anything up.

[Rooster]

Hakeem's religion is considered sacrilegious where he came from in Nigeria. I'm not making anything up.

Hakeem will probably shake and baked all those Greece unathletic bigs.:oldlol:

Just like how Diogu beatdown.:bowdown:

Nigeria > Greece.

Not even close.:coleman:

[Asukal]

People keep on acting like 1992 is ancient history. :facepalm

Remind me again why they allowed NBA players to compete in the olympics back in 92? :rolleyes: