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dbugz
08-09-2012, 11:39 PM
Any preview of their starting line-up? bench?

Who's going to start Jrich or Turner?

Would love to see Turner and Bynum play together, two of the most jerk players now in the NBA :oldlol: :oldlol:

GOBB
08-09-2012, 11:42 PM
Jrue Holiday/Roy Ivey/Malik Wayns
Jason Richardson/Nick Young
Evan Turner/Dorrel Wright
Spencer Hawes/Thaddeus Young/Lavoy Allen/Arnett Moultrie
Andruw Bynum/Kwame Brown

Ballgame bishes:bowdown:

MrWarrior
08-09-2012, 11:43 PM
Jrue Holiday/Roy Ivey/Malik Wayns
Jason Richardson/Nick Young
Evan Turner/Dorrel Wright
Spencer Hawes/Thaddeus Young/Lavoy Allen/Arnett Moultrie
Andruw Bynum/Kwame Brown

Ballgame bishes:bowdown:

Although I'm not a fan of Philly, that's pretty solid roster. If Andrew Bynum plays legendary on both ends, we might see them in the Conference finals.

UtahJazzFan88
08-09-2012, 11:44 PM
3rd or 4th in the East at worst. :bowdown:

DuMa
08-09-2012, 11:44 PM
a challenger appears for the Heat :pimp:

iggy>
08-09-2012, 11:45 PM
:bowdown: Bynum

miles berg
08-09-2012, 11:45 PM
More than anyone in this trade Philly improved the most.

They got an amazing deal.

Burgz V2
08-09-2012, 11:45 PM
Any preview of their starting line-up? bench?

Who's going to start Jrich or Turner?

Would love to see Turner and Bynum play together, two of the most jerk players now in the NBA :oldlol: :oldlol:

i'd expect both turner and jrue to start in the backcourt together, turner proved he is at least worth that to start the season at least

Jrich was a necessary hit for them to take, he wont be eating turner's minutes, he'll basically take lou williams and jodie meeks' minutes off the bench

ralph_i_el
08-09-2012, 11:46 PM
Jrue Holiday/Roy Ivey/Malik Wayns
Jason Richardson/Nick Young
Evan Turner/Dorrel Wright
Spencer Hawes/Thaddeus Young/Lavoy Allen/Arnett Moultrie
Andruw Bynum/Kwame Brown

Ballgame bishes:bowdown:


if Turner has a breakout year and bynum stays healthy this team is really good. I like Hawes and Bynum up front

PleezeBelieve
08-09-2012, 11:46 PM
They need a playmaking point.

tmacattack33
08-09-2012, 11:47 PM
Any preview of their starting line-up? bench?

Who's going to start Jrich or Turner?

Would love to see Turner and Bynum play together, two of the most jerk players now in the NBA :oldlol: :oldlol:

I guess that was a joke, but i can't tell for sure. But Evan turner is the total opposite of being an A-hole.

Burgz V2
08-09-2012, 11:47 PM
They need a playmaking point.

you need a brain.

Jrue Holiday is a great pg

EricGordon23
08-09-2012, 11:48 PM
More than anyone in this trade Philly improved the most.

They got an amazing deal.

I think everyone can agree to that

GOBB
08-09-2012, 11:48 PM
They need a playmaking point.

Jrue Holiday. You mad Cavs didnt land Bynum. :roll:

"But but but waiters/thompson are not worth Bynum and bad contract"

Have fun in the lottery ok?

Burgz V2
08-09-2012, 11:51 PM
Jrue Holiday/Roy Ivey/Malik Wayns
Jason Richardson/Nick Young
Evan Turner/Dorrel Wright
Spencer Hawes/Thaddeus Young/Lavoy Allen/Arnett Moultrie
Andruw Bynum/Kwame Brown

Ballgame bishes:bowdown:

id start Wright and move turner to the two, i'd be worried about turner guarding the bigger 3's in the league especially come playoff time (Lebron, Pierce, Deng etc.)

I really like Waayns, he was inconsistent at Nova but I think he can be a really good backup pg, Ivey should be riding pine lol

EllisGW
08-09-2012, 11:52 PM
who cares they will lose vs heat or celts and bynum wont sign

GOBB
08-09-2012, 11:53 PM
id start Wright and move turner to the two, i'd be worried about turner guarding the bigger 3's in the league especially come playoff time (Lebron, Pierce, Deng etc.)

I really like Waayns, he was inconsistent at Nova but I think he can be a really good backup pg, Ivey should be riding pine lol

Thats possible.

longtime lurker
08-09-2012, 11:55 PM
More than anyone in this trade Philly improved the most.

They got an amazing deal.

Yeah no, but Philly got a steal here. Really the sky's the limit for this team now, if Evan Turner develops like he should, I see this team as an Eastern conference finalist.

iggy>
08-09-2012, 11:55 PM
who cares they will lose vs heat or celts and bynum wont sign
He might, max dollas boi....



Boom...... Lil b!tch

ProfessorMurder
08-09-2012, 11:57 PM
Jrue Holiday/Roy Ivey/Malik Wayns
Jason Richardson/Nick Young
Evan Turner/Dorrel Wright
Spencer Hawes/Thaddeus Young/Lavoy Allen/Arnett Moultrie
Andruw Bynum/Kwame Brown

Ballgame bishes:bowdown:

Hawes won't start at the 4, but I'd like them to play Hawes and Bynum together at times.

The team looks scary. Just under Miami and Boston in the East.

GOBB
08-09-2012, 11:59 PM
Hawes won't start at the 4, but I'd like them to play Hawes and Bynum together at times.

The team looks scary. Just under Miami and Boston in the East.

How are you going to say he wont start at PF when he was going to start at PF before the trade idiot? :roll:

Who starts at PF? Kwame Brown? No Thaddeus Young? Hell no. Lavoy Allen? Good one.

I'll wait idiot

dbugz
08-10-2012, 12:00 AM
Hawes won't start at the 4, but I'd like them to play Hawes and Bynum together at times.

The team looks scary. Just under Miami and Boston in the East.


The east's competition is going to be good this season

Heat
Celtics
Knicks
Nets
Pacers
Sixers
Kyrie Irving

:applause:

ProfessorMurder
08-10-2012, 12:01 AM
How are you going to say he wont start at PF when he was going to start at PF before the trade idiot? :roll:

Who starts at PF? Kwame Brown? No Thaddeus Young? Hell no. Lavoy Allen? Good one.

I'll wait idiot

Dude go f*ck yourself.

They'll be slow as shit with Hawes and Bynum on the floor together.

GOBB
08-10-2012, 12:05 AM
Dude go f*ck yourself.

They'll be slow as shit with Hawes and Bynum on the floor together.

And they were fast with Kwame Brown and Hawes on the floor? :roll:

F*cking idiot. You do realize Hawes was starting at PF and Brown Center right?

So I ask you again, if Hawes aint starting at the 4...who is? You havent given an answer. I'll wait once again dumbass. Sucks to know I'm right. It kills you. So you'll deny whats right in spite like a b!tch does. But I enjoy that. Makes me laugh uncontrollably. Idiot.

KDTrey5
08-10-2012, 12:06 AM
why would hawes play PF to begin with? hes a solid C but when ur a young team u dont need to slow ur self down with 2 slow bigs.

+ brown is PF and hawes is C if they ever played together.

AK47DR91
08-10-2012, 12:08 AM
if Turner has a breakout year and bynum stays healthy this team is really good. I like Hawes and Bynum up front
Turner showed signs of being worthy of a #2 pick last season. had a really stretch as a starter until the Sixers started going on a tailspin at the end of the regular season.

Anyway, they should be able to take the Atlantic division now and as well as HCA as a #2 or 3 seed.

Burgz V2
08-10-2012, 12:09 AM
The east's competition is going to be good this season

Heat
Celtics
Knicks
Nets
Pacers
Sixers
Kyrie Irving

:applause:

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/000/681/what-you-did-there-i-see-it.thumbnail.jpg

Batz
08-10-2012, 12:09 AM
Jrue Holiday/Roy Ivey/Malik Wayns
Jason Richardson/Nick Young
Evan Turner/Dorrel Wright
Spencer Hawes/Thaddeus Young/Lavoy Allen/Arnett Moultrie
Andruw Bynum/Kwame Brown

Ballgame bishes:bowdown:
I personally wanted a Kyrie/Bynum combo. But WOW. This couldn't turned better for one of my favorite players. A young and solid PG, solid all around perimeter players, the floor is spread and the best of all... DOUG COLLINS AND A PLAYOFF TEAM!

Go Bynum! :banana:

iggy>
08-10-2012, 12:11 AM
Sixers didn't resign hawes to come off the bench.

GOBB
08-10-2012, 12:13 AM
why would hawes play PF to begin with? hes a solid C but when ur a young team u dont need to slow ur self down with 2 slow bigs.

+ brown is PF and hawes is C if they ever played together.

Hawes at PF= stretch 4 moron. Real simple. Its been established Kwame Brown starts at Center and Hawes at PF. Want proof or will you stfu and take the loss like ProfesorIdiot?

Why do you kids keep talkin out your ass like I'm not a Sixers fan. I made a thread where it was stated Brown/Hawes would start together, Hawes at PF. I clowned the move by the Sixers. And here you are questioning whether Hawes would have played PF.

Styles p
08-10-2012, 12:13 AM
i don't like thad at the 3 his handle and shot are terrible.

KDTrey5
08-10-2012, 12:17 AM
Hawes at PF= stretch 4 moron. Real simple. Its been established Kwame Brown starts at Center and Hawes at PF. Want proof or will you stfu and take the loss like ProfesorIdiot?

Why do you kids keep talkin out your ass like I'm not a Sixers fan. I made a thread where it was stated Brown/Hawes would start together, Hawes at PF. I clowned the move by the Sixers. And here you are questioning whether Hawes would have played PF.
stretch the floor? u can use t.young at PF, stretch the floor and still be a faster team.

hawkfan
08-10-2012, 12:19 AM
The Sixers should be in the ECF with this roster.
No excuses now.
All of a sudden the Sixers have depth at the bigs.

Brook(lyn)Lopez
08-10-2012, 12:24 AM
Atlantic Conference is stacked.:eek:

Still expect the Nets to take it though.

ballup
08-10-2012, 12:26 AM
Hawes has not played 4 ever in Philly. Coach Collins says that he will try Hawes at the 4 at training camp. Doesn't mean it's final, he's just testing out different rotations.

GOBB
08-10-2012, 12:28 AM
Hawes has not played 4 ever in Philly. Coach Collins says that he will try Hawes at the 4 at training camp. Doesn't mean it's final, he's just testing out different rotations.

So who starts at PF genius?'

Thaddeus Young has started at PF how many times under Dog Collins?
Yeah you can really really see Lavoy Allen starting at PF
Kwaaaaamay Brown? Really

So by all means you mensa member tell us who starts at PF. Hawes would be no different than Gasol next to Bynum.

jalbert009
08-10-2012, 12:36 AM
76ers shoud trade Hawes once Bynum signs an extension or Signs a 4-5 year deal. Hawes for Ilyasova? they make similar money.

ballup
08-10-2012, 12:37 AM
Do you think I'm some kind of mind reader? Collins will start whoever he feels will fit best.

GOBB
08-10-2012, 12:38 AM
Do you think I'm some kind of mind reader? Collins will start whoever he feels will fit best.


You read his mind saying Hawes wouldnt start based on never starting at PF before :rolleyes:

Idiot, just stfu

flipogb
08-10-2012, 12:39 AM
could be better than Bulls because of injuries and better than the Knicks (who imo has players that dont fit together). also better than Indiana

ballup
08-10-2012, 12:40 AM
You read his mind saying Hawes wouldnt start based on never starting at PF before :rolleyes:

Idiot, just stfu
Point out where I actually state that Hawes wouldn't start.

SourPatchKids
08-10-2012, 12:43 AM
I'm going to miss Iggy. :(

GOBB
08-10-2012, 12:44 AM
Hawes has not played 4 ever in Philly. Coach Collins says that he will try Hawes at the 4 at training camp. Doesn't mean it's final, he's just testing out different rotations.

Pretty much implies Hawes at PF wont happen.

Levity
08-10-2012, 12:46 AM
hawes/bynum, best front court in the east. health could be a big concern for them. though, bynum was healthy pretty much all of last year, i remember hawes had to sit out alternating games towards the end of the season. i wonder how his back is holding up with a whole off season for him to rest it.

Dr. Cheesesteak
08-10-2012, 12:51 AM
Atlantic Conference is stacked.:eek:

Still expect the Nets to take it though.
Yeah, usually adding an overrated 19ppg SG and a 18/8 C while losing most of your bench depth takes you from worst to first in a division that had 3 playoff teams the year before.

However, i do agree Atlantic is stacked. Toughest division in the league now, imo.

ballup
08-10-2012, 12:55 AM
Pretty much implies Hawes at PF wont happen.
See, I never stated it. All I said was that there's a possibility that he won't start. You are just trying to pin something on me when there's really nothing

UtahJazzFan88
08-10-2012, 12:56 AM
You guys don't get it. Bynum is going to be playing the 4, dude has been extending his range to play the 4 more often, which in turn lets Hawes play the 5.

http://memecrunch.com/meme/2M2F/andrew-bynum-yolo/image.png

hawkfan
08-10-2012, 06:02 AM
Hawes will start, but the Sixers will have to play someone else at power forward when other teams go to small ball.

Hawes isn't exactly great laterally.

East_Stone_Ya
08-10-2012, 06:09 AM
hopefully Doug can motivate Bynum enough to play strong on offense and defense

B-Easy8
08-10-2012, 06:23 AM
Sixers will be one of my team's to watch again this season. Bynum is a monster and I think ET will break out. They really need to address there backup PG position though. We will give you JJ Barea for Harkless and a first.

KDTrey5
08-10-2012, 06:54 AM
Pretty much implies Hawes at PF wont happen.
:facepalm its wat we fkin tell u

midatlantic09
08-10-2012, 06:56 AM
Hawes won't start at the 4, but I'd like them to play Hawes and Bynum together at times.

The team looks scary. Just under Miami and Boston in the East.

Doug Collins has stated otherwise. Do your research.

KDTrey5
08-10-2012, 07:01 AM
Doug Collins has stated otherwise. Do your research.
not true

midatlantic09
08-10-2012, 07:02 AM
Sixers got a major steal when they picked up Wayns. He's basically a Kyle Lowry clone and will likely be the Sixers backup PG (Ivey will likely be on the bench) and could end up being their starting PG if Holiday resigns elsewhere when he becomes a FA.

KDTrey5
08-10-2012, 07:04 AM
holiday = restricted, they wont let him go

midatlantic09
08-10-2012, 07:07 AM
not true

There is a clip on NBA.com in which Collins states "we're going to go with Jrue and Evan in the backcourt, Dre at the 3, Spencer at the 4, and Kwame at the 5." Then Collins talks about how he believes Hawes is more comfortable at the 4 instead of the 5 and how he plans on starting training camp with Hawes playing the 4.

Look it up.

blacknapalm
08-10-2012, 07:08 AM
i honestly see their ceiling at ECF and that's pretty damn good. east got better this offseason for sure but they can possibly pull off an upset vs. boston or indy. hell, a philly vs. NJ/NY series sounds fun to me too

KDTrey5
08-10-2012, 07:08 AM
There is a clip on NBA.com in which Collins states "we're going to go with Jrue and Evan in the backcourt, Dre at the 3, Spencer at the 4, and Kwame at the 5." Then Collins talks about how he believes Hawes is more comfortable at the 4 instead of the 5 and how he plans on starting training camp with Hawes playing the 4.
only because hawes got somewhat of a jumper. but hes slow as fck, and if they want to play up tempo like what they did last year he wont be at the 4.
but they got bynum, so it is more likely now

GOBB
08-10-2012, 07:22 AM
Doug Collins has stated otherwise. Do your research.

Exactly, notice he didnt show his face again. My lil Pwny!

alenleomessi
08-10-2012, 07:44 AM
they should trade hawes or young for ilyasova

KDTrey5
08-10-2012, 07:46 AM
they should trade hawes or young for ilyasova
:no:

KelticForce1349
08-10-2012, 07:53 AM
Exactly, notice he didnt show his face again. My lil Pwny!



LOl. I picture you partying with a couple of hookers and some cocaine just by reading your replies to all this! Damn, you are excited.

Anyway...I think Philly was the grand runner up in all this trade madness by a landslide. (Lakers always have to win trades though, secret NBA mandate.) For me personally, I think Hawes and Bynum will be beasting together as a front court duo. Tons of height between them and their skill-sets will compliment one another.

This is a much better situation for Bynum too because Hawes doesn't the skills of a Gasol (which rightfully came first after Kobe) and Hawes benefits from playing next a more physically/mentally dominant player like Bynum.

I am looking forward to catching a few Sixers games throughout the season to see how Collins teaches this team to play up to their capabilities.

KDTrey5
08-10-2012, 07:54 AM
LOl. I picture you partying with a couple of hookers and some cocaine just by reading your replies to all this! Damn, you are excited.

Anyway...I think Philly was the grand runner up in all this trade madness by a landslide. (Lakers always have to win trades though, secret NBA mandate.) For me personally, I think Hawes and Bynum will be beasting together as a front court duo. Tons of height between them and their skill-sets will compliment one another.

This is a much better situation for Bynum too because Hawes doesn't the skills of a Gasol (which rightfully came first of Kobe) and Hawes benefits from playing next a more physically/mentally dominant player like Bynum.

I am looking forward to catching a few Sixers games throughout the season to see how Collins teaches this team to play up to their capabilities.
pparty? plz niggeh is busy gettin 50k posts

smush=mvp!
08-10-2012, 08:17 AM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/post/kwame-brown-i-taught-andrew-bynum-everything-he-knows/2012/01/09/gIQASkHZlP_blog.html

Great reunion.

madmax
08-10-2012, 08:44 AM
2nd best ECF team to me:cheers:
It will be nice to watch them counter Heat's perimeter scoring with inside presence and defense. That should a very good series:applause:

kurple
08-10-2012, 10:34 AM
i've always had love for the sixers. and this is a great trade for them

bynum is a huuge douchebag, but the sixers will be good. one of the teams i can root for when the nuggets doesnt play

Jailblazers7
08-10-2012, 10:52 AM
I honestly wouldn't mind seeing Hawes come off the bench. Hawes/Thad off the bench and Bynum/Allen starting might work better but there is no harm in seeing how Hawes and Bynum play together.

boozehound
08-10-2012, 11:06 AM
More than anyone in this trade Philly improved the most.

They got an amazing deal.
no doubt. made out like bandits. got bynum and jrich (still a good player, def. not overpaid despite the media hype) for iggy and a scrub (IKIK you love the dude, but you clearly didnt need him)

boozehound
08-10-2012, 11:07 AM
2nd best ECF team to me:cheers:
It will be nice to watch them counter Heat's perimeter scoring with inside presence and defense. That should a very good series:applause:
how is that? People are overreacting. Nice young players who havent proven much and a glaring hole at the 4. have fun running out hawes to guard lebron at the 4

ProfessorMurder
08-10-2012, 01:18 PM
Exactly, notice he didnt show his face again. My lil Pwny!

That's because there's no point in arguing with a retarded brick wall.

I try to have a discussion and you immediately start name calling and being a tool. Pretty immature. If you're really in your forties and you act like this you've got issues.

Why would I look up what a coach of a team said, that isn't even a team I follow?

Why would his statement pre-Bynum trade mean anything with the team being shaken up now?

When has it been established that Collins has never changed his mind or retracted something he's said?

It's possible Hawes will start at the four, but I don't think it makes sense.


Now go onto my ignore list so I never have to see you post again.

Derka
08-10-2012, 02:15 PM
I want to see Philly bitchslap Miami this season. I really do.

GOBB
08-12-2012, 06:59 PM
That's because there's no point in arguing with a retarded brick wall.

I try to have a discussion and you immediately start name calling and being a tool. Pretty immature. If you're really in your forties and you act like this you've got issues.

Why would I look up what a coach of a team said, that isn't even a team I follow?

Why would his statement pre-Bynum trade mean anything with the team being shaken up now?

When has it been established that Collins has never changed his mind or retracted something he's said?

It's possible Hawes will start at the four, but I don't think it makes sense.


Now go onto my ignore list so I never have to see you post again.

Because Hawes skillset compliments Bynum you dolt. Doug talked about starting Brown/Hawes. Brown isnt a face up player. He doesnt possess range. He spends his time closer to the paint than vice versa. The idea of Hawes playing next to him is the same reason why it makes even more sense with Bynum.

Hawes can operates out of the high post. He's a face up big first and foremost with range. He doesnt spend time with his back to the basket, in the low post. I wouldnt be surprised if Sixers ranked near the bottom of low post possessions. Anyway not only is Hawes a good shooter he is a great passer. These are two pluses you have with having Hawes at the 4. Bynum spends 95% of his time near the basket. He isnt going to face up, he isnt going to shoot jumpers. What he does is establishes position near the rim. Bynum is also good at cutting. If Gasol can hit Bynum Hawes damn sure can.

To say Hawes at PF makes no sense is silly. If you understood basketball and Hawes skillset you wouldnt say that. Its one thing to say you prefer another PF on the roster whom you refuse to name and break down why they should be the PF. But your reply was a snappy one then you get butt hurt when I embarrass you. Thats your fault kid. You want to play the mature, lets have a civil convo angle with this post. Yet you dont talk basketball. You acknowledge the positives with Hawes at 4. You focus on the negative then offer NO ALTERNATIVE SOLUTION. How do you even sound kid? Real f*cking stupid is how.

GOBB
08-12-2012, 07:01 PM
how is that? People are overreacting. Nice young players who havent proven much and a glaring hole at the 4. have fun running out hawes to guard lebron at the 4

2nd best team in the ECF may be an overreaction no doubt. But get serious. If Bron is put at PF then obviously Hawes isnt going to play PF. You're smarter than that. :confusedshrug:

NumberSix
08-12-2012, 07:26 PM
Not bad. Not bad at all.

Sixers > Pacers.

Rubio2Gasol
08-12-2012, 07:32 PM
I'm looking at that 3 point shooting and thinking this team could upset someone in the playoffs.

They have the core and then if people get hot it can be deadly.

Kind like GS but GS unfortunately will have a much more difficult time actually getting into the playoffs.

Also they should definitely trade for Illysova.

LBJMVP
08-12-2012, 07:46 PM
Jrue Holiday. You mad Cavs didnt land Bynum. :roll:

"But but but waiters/thompson are not worth Bynum and bad contract"

Have fun in the lottery ok?

because are two number 4 picks plus varajoe are worth the hope that maybe bynum would be more than a one year rental.

throw in our future draft picks which were most likely included as well.

if bynum leaves we start rebuilinding over from the beginning... and i know that no cavs fans wants to go through two seperate rebuilding processes in 3 years.

chips93
08-12-2012, 07:53 PM
why dont they start thad

he seems like hed compliment bynum well, can shoot a bit, and can move his feet on the perimeter, on defense

StacksOnDeck
08-12-2012, 07:57 PM
What's with all this talk about Bynum leaving? There's no chance Bynum would leave if he was traded to any team. Do you know how much money he stands to lose if he leaves?

Lakers_Kobe_Fan
08-12-2012, 08:06 PM
because are two number 4 picks plus varajoe are worth the hope that maybe bynum would be more than a one year rental.

throw in our future draft picks which were most likely included as well.

if bynum leaves we start rebuilinding over from the beginning... and i know that no cavs fans wants to go through two seperate rebuilding processes in 3 years.

thats why fcukings cavs are right where they are suppose to be....nobody reported they wanted both 4th picks TT and Waiters....

the deal was Zeller/TT and Varejao for sal purpose....

good luck in lottery...Waiters has bust written all over him just like TT...TT is going to be in same boat as Tyrus Thomas....

Bynum with Irving would be unstoppable next year or 2...but please continue with the rebuilding process where you wont trade proves 2nd best center in the league for draft prospects

ballup
08-12-2012, 08:18 PM
why dont they start thad

he seems like hed compliment bynum well, can shoot a bit, and can move his feet on the perimeter, on defense
I think it's because Thad can be bullied by real 4s.

GOBB
08-12-2012, 08:23 PM
What's with all this talk about Bynum leaving? There's no chance Bynum would leave if he was traded to any team. Do you know how much money he stands to lose if he leaves?

How much did Bron, Bosh lose?

Mr. I'm So Rad
08-12-2012, 08:25 PM
Bynum was a great trade. He'll definitely add that outside shooting that Philly lacks.

chips93
08-12-2012, 08:30 PM
Bynum was a great trade. He'll definitely add that outside shooting that Philly lacks.

they got jason richardson in the trade . . .

Yung D-Will
08-12-2012, 08:30 PM
How much did Bron, Bosh lose?
Bosh and Bron were going into a situation where they finally wanted to win a championship, so they were willing to make that sacrifice. Bynum on the other hand won two championships with the lakers; And now he's looking to be individually dominant, be the #1 option, and get paid.

LBJMVP
08-12-2012, 08:33 PM
thats why fcukings cavs are right where they are suppose to be....nobody reported they wanted both 4th picks TT and Waiters....

the deal was Zeller/TT and Varejao for sal purpose....

good luck in lottery...Waiters has bust written all over him just like TT...TT is going to be in same boat as Tyrus Thomas....

Bynum with Irving would be unstoppable next year or 2...but please continue with the rebuilding process where you wont trade proves 2nd best center in the league for draft prospects


trading them would never have been a probly if we knew bynum would commit. why rebuild, then trade your rebuilding pieces for bynum only to watch him leave and have to rebuild again.

if he'd said he'd resign then sure trade for him.


funny how people lable thompson a bust when in ford's redraft kyrie and thompson went one and two.

also funny how most people on ish lable waiters a bust after never seeing game, and most except rating that as a very good pick.

LBJMVP
08-12-2012, 08:34 PM
Bosh and Bron were going into a situation where they finally wanted to win a championship, so they were willing to make that sacrifice. Bynum on the other hand won two championships with the lakers; And now he's looking to be individually dominant, be the #1 option, and get paid.


do you know how a sign and trade works?

Yung D-Will
08-12-2012, 08:34 PM
do you know how a sign and trade works?
I was under the impression that if they had just signed, they could have easily gotten more money.

chips93
08-12-2012, 08:35 PM
funny how people lable thompson a bust when in ford's redraft kyrie and thompson went one and two.

it was thorpes redraft that thompson went 2

GOBB
08-12-2012, 08:35 PM
Bynum was a great trade. He'll definitely add that outside shooting that Philly lacks.

3 new additions...

Dorell Wright last 2 seasons shot 3&% (6 3pta) and 37% (5 3pta).
Nick Young is a career 38% 3pt, shot 37% last season
Jason Richardson whom they aquired with Bynum is a career 37% 3pt shooter

Now what

LBJMVP
08-12-2012, 08:37 PM
I was under the impression that if they had just signed they could have easily gotten more money.

they sign with their original team and get all the money they would have gotten.... then said team trades that player to whatever team the player committed to in free agency.

this way the other team gets something in return like draft picks.

i think thats how it works.

we signed and traded lebron, but he didnt take the max anyway because miami wouldn't have been able to afford it.



i may be wrong.

LBJMVP
08-12-2012, 08:37 PM
it was thorpes redraft that thompson went 2

thats right.

GOBB
08-12-2012, 08:41 PM
trading them would never have been a probly if we knew bynum would commit. why rebuild, then trade your rebuilding pieces for bynum only to watch him leave and have to rebuild again.

if he'd said he'd resign then sure trade for him.


funny how people lable thompson a bust when in ford's redraft kyrie and thompson went one and two.

also funny how most people on ish lable waiters a bust after never seeing game, and most except rating that as a very good pick.

He's an idiot. Thompson isnt a bust. Thorpe could have redid the draft and had him go 15. Way too premature to write off Thompson when anyone who watched him in college knew he had areas of his game to improve upon. Wouldnt happen over night. He doesnt know what he talks about.

chips93
08-12-2012, 08:48 PM
fwiw, coach scott said that thompson has been the most improved player over the summer, working hard on developing a face-up jumper

although we didnt see much of it in vegas

i just wanna see him try some things out there, and not be afraid to fail.

Burgz V2
08-12-2012, 09:31 PM
tbh the cavs are a hard team to read.

they've drafted 3 players in 2 years on sheer potential. it'll be a couple of years at least before we can really judge that squad.

Burgz V2
08-12-2012, 09:39 PM
3 new additions...

Dorell Wright last 2 seasons shot 3&% (6 3pta) and 37% (5 3pta).
Nick Young is a career 38% 3pt, shot 37% last season
Jason Richardson whom they aquired with Bynum is a career 37% 3pt shooter

Now what

this.

If Bynum can be more successful passing out of doubles earlier, this is a very dangerous team.

sixers had arguably the best 2nd unit in the East last year, definitely best in the atlantic. they could easily be the best 2nd unit this year, they just have to commit to Doug Collins' style of play and not worry about who gets the shots on what night

Lakers_Kobe_Fan
08-12-2012, 09:59 PM
trading them would never have been a probly if we knew bynum would commit. why rebuild, then trade your rebuilding pieces for bynum only to watch him leave and have to rebuild again.

if he'd said he'd resign then sure trade for him.


funny how people lable thompson a bust when in ford's redraft kyrie and thompson went one and two.

also funny how most people on ish lable waiters a bust after never seeing game, and most except rating that as a very good pick.

did Bynum commit to philly??? no

did deron williams commit to Nets??? he talked to Nets, Mavs & then signed with the nets

the fact is....if you get a player like bynum for unproven quantities like TT and waiters...u go ahead and do that...

Bynum would not turn down and opportunity to play with a upcoming star pg in Irving and the maxed 5th yr...just no way....

sometimes u have to roll the dice....

Lakers_Kobe_Fan
08-12-2012, 10:01 PM
He's an idiot. Thompson isnt a bust. Thorpe could have redid the draft and had him go 15. Way too premature to write off Thompson when anyone who watched him in college knew he had areas of his game to improve upon. Wouldnt happen over night. He doesnt know what he talks about.

fcuk off GOBB I owe you like my little B!tch...in past few conversations....you dont even know what i was saying....try to comprehend 1st before calling somebody idiot...

dont bother replying cause I am not going to waste my time arguing with a dumb fcuk like u

GOBB
08-12-2012, 10:27 PM
fcuk off GOBB I owe you like my little B!tch...in past few conversations....you dont even know what i was saying....try to comprehend 1st before calling somebody idiot...

dont bother replying cause I am not going to waste my time arguing with a dumb fcuk like u

You said Waiters has bust written all over him yet never explain why. You compare Thompson to Tyrus Thomas. Why? Because both have TT initials? Because nbadraft.net compared them? You cant explain the crap you type.

Idiot.

LBJMVP
08-12-2012, 10:32 PM
did Bynum commit to philly??? no

did deron williams commit to Nets??? he talked to Nets, Mavs & then signed with the nets

the fact is....if you get a player like bynum for unproven quantities like TT and waiters...u go ahead and do that...

Bynum would not turn down and opportunity to play with a upcoming star pg in Irving and the maxed 5th yr...just no way....

sometimes u have to roll the dice....


we weren't in a posistion to risk all of our assets except irving for what could be a 1 year rental.

i feel very good with the decision we made. i wish we did get bynum, but im not the least bit upset we didnt.

Nets fan 93
08-12-2012, 11:13 PM
I think this team is getting a bit overrated. Hawes is going to make them have a slow front court. And as of right now Turner has to prove himself. Big Bynum and Holiday fan though.

Lakers_Kobe_Fan
08-12-2012, 11:14 PM
we weren't in a posistion to risk all of our assets except irving for what could be a 1 year rental.

i feel very good with the decision we made. i wish we did get bynum, but im not the least bit upset we didnt.

what assets dude??? u guys have like 6-8 1st round picks in next couple of yrs

just dump them on magic...

Burgz V2
08-12-2012, 11:16 PM
I think this team is getting a bit overrated. Hawes is going to make them have a slow front court. And as of right now Turner has to prove himself. Big Bynum and Holiday fan though.

as opposed to elton brand at the 4?

this team's style of play doesn't really need turner to "prove himself" as long as he plays good enough defense their wings can score by committee and they'll be pretty good tbh

i think Holiday and Bynum will be an awesome combination though

LBJMVP
08-12-2012, 11:31 PM
what assets dude??? u guys have like 6-8 1st round picks in next couple of yrs

just dump them on magic...


than if bynum leaves we have no draft picks to rebuild with and we are a place that attracts free agents... plus loose the the players we drafted to rebuild with.

why risk that for what could be a one year rental.

Nets fan 93
08-12-2012, 11:41 PM
as opposed to elton brand at the 4?

this team's style of play doesn't really need turner to "prove himself" as long as he plays good enough defense their wings can score by committee and they'll be pretty good tbh

i think Holiday and Bynum will be an awesome combination though
Will that kind of system win them playoff games?

Burgz V2
08-13-2012, 12:35 AM
Will that kind of system win them playoff games?

honestly? it might get them deep, or it might crash and fail miserably and cost Doug Collins his job. once it's the ECF it all comes down to who can take their guy one on one. Which is why Bynum is the key and the major difference from last year.

Collins is very old school, very grind it out, he likes to push the ball off turnovers and he doesnt like to call a lot of set plays. last year it was brutal to watch because they didnt have a guy they could throw it to in the post to open up the three point line. This year that could be totally different

Fudge
08-13-2012, 12:49 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/kwame-brown-spencer-hawes-both-start-76ers-says-224157859--nba.html

GOBB's right.

That front court is HUGE. Two 7'1 players.

But somebody mentioned it earlier, i'd much rather have it like this. I'm assuming they want to bring in Thad for bench production though.

Jrue Holiday/Royal Ivey
Evan Turner/Jason Richardson
Dorrell Wright/Nick Young
Thaddeus Young/Arnett Moultrie/Lavoy Allen
Andrew Bynum/Spencer Hawes/Kwama Brown

These guys go 10 deep. Definitely a team to look out for.

Stuckey
08-13-2012, 01:58 AM
use to love watching Miller and Iggy fastbreak on teams as underdogs and upsetting constantly

definitely will tune in to some Sixer games this season

KOBE143
08-13-2012, 02:56 AM
Good for 8 seed.. Without Kobe, Bynum will be expose big time next season..

CryinInTheCar
08-13-2012, 03:51 AM
Yeah, usually adding an overrated 19ppg SG and a 18/8 C while losing most of your bench depth takes you from worst to first in a division that had 3 playoff teams the year before.

However, i do agree Atlantic is stacked. Toughest division in the league now, imo.
They lost bench depth? How exactly did they lose bench depth? Sundiata Gaines, Johan Petro, Sheldon Williams, Deshawn Stevenson, Jordan Farmar and Jordan Williams is bench depth? They improved their bench. CJ Watson, Mirza Teletovic, Marshon Brooks, Tyshawn Taylor, Toko Shengalia, Reggie Evans, Al Thornton and Jerry Stackhouse is a much better bench than they had last year. And yes, adding Joe Johnson (Who was forced to be the #1 option on offense in Atlanta, who will now be the #2 or 3 option on the Nets), and adding a healthy Brook Lopez who won't be double and triple teamed every night most certainly could turn them into the #1 seed in the Atlantic. Don't forget that Gerald Wallace only played 15 games for the Nets last year, and D-Will, Wallace and Lopez didn't play one game together last season. The Nets are going to have a lethal scoring punch off the bench with Brooks and Teletovic.

CryinInTheCar
08-13-2012, 03:56 AM
There's also a good chance Bynum gets exposed next season. No more Kobe and Gasol to take the pressure off of him anymore. I expect him to crack under pressure as the #1 option being double and triple teamed nightly. And Spencer Hawes is slow and un-athletic as $hit. He's a poor mans Gary Bradley.

Clippersfan86
08-13-2012, 03:59 AM
Call me crazy but with the addition of Bynum I think Sixers have a shot at HCA. A 4 seed wouldn't surprise me at all, especially with Bulls being crippled for now. I think the top 3 will be Heat, Celtics and Pacers. Then Sixers, Nets and Knicks will fight for the 4-6 seeds. 7 and 8 is pretty up in the air though I'd like to say Cavs and Wizards.

Y2Gezee
08-13-2012, 05:22 AM
Call me crazy but with the addition of Bynum I think Sixers have a shot at HCA. A 4 seed wouldn't surprise me at all, especially with Bulls being crippled for now. I think the top 3 will be Heat, Celtics and Pacers. Then Sixers, Nets and Knicks will fight for the 4-6 seeds. 7 and 8 is pretty up in the air though I'd like to say Cavs and Wizards.


I'd say they do also. They're a complete team now, with some depth and coaching and finally a legit number 1 option in Bynum. But, I'm not really sold on how great a number 1 option Bynum is, he should be a number 2 guy. I'd say this team is dangerous, but probably finishes at 6.

Also, I think the Pacers will be right there competing with them for that spot. I like Indy, but that team will absolutely not be the 2nd seed in the East as some project, and I doubt they finish with 4th best record in the East (though they will win division). Boston and New York have similar depth to a team like Indy, but actual high end talent/ stars.

QuebecBaller
08-13-2012, 05:37 AM
They should try to trade J-Rich for a true starting SF

Turner/Young
?/Wright

ihatetimthomas
08-13-2012, 05:38 AM
Bynum is going to have a monster year next season. What a incredible pickup. You have the best big man in the East and one of the very few legitimate post presences. They have some guys who can space the floor which will open up the lane for him. Defensively they will be much better too. Doug Collins is a good coach for him.

BoutPractice
08-13-2012, 05:41 AM
I wonder if the Sixers will regret drafting Evan Turner.
They could've had Greg Monroe alongside Bynum for instance, which may have been a a blueprint for a championship team.
As they are they're a few pieces away from true contention.

Lebron23
08-13-2012, 05:50 AM
I wonder if the Sixers will regret drafting Evan Turner.
They could've had Greg Monroe alongside Bynum for instance, which may have been a a blueprint for a championship team.
As they are they're a few pieces away from true contention.


Turner will put up good numbers next season. Evan will probably not live up to his hype but he will become a solid starter in the NBA. (16-17 ppg in his best statistical season).

bdreason
08-13-2012, 06:21 AM
Guess I'm the only one who doesn't like the team composition? I'm interested to see how much Collins runs the offense through Bynum. Sixers won games last year by playing unselfish, team ball (I believe one of the top APG teams). That's no exactly Bynums specialty.

blacknapalm
08-13-2012, 06:31 AM
Guess I'm the only one who doesn't like the team composition? I'm interested to see how much Collins runs the offense through Bynum. Sixers won games last year by playing unselfish, team ball (I believe one of the top APG teams). That's no exactly Bynums specialty.

well, he has to get better. he's going to be in a situation where he's forced to. it's not like the guy is incapable of passing. he just needs to recognize doubles better and not be stubborn or whatever. it's a process but if he gets that down and stays healthy, it's going to be a huge boost for that team. they were sort of transitioning towards more halfcourt offense anyway. with iggy and williams gone, that's going to be even more the case....

chips93
08-13-2012, 07:20 AM
Guess I'm the only one who doesn't like the team composition? I'm interested to see how much Collins runs the offense through Bynum. Sixers won games last year by playing unselfish, team ball (I believe one of the top APG teams). That's no exactly Bynums specialty.


the sixers won games last year because they were elite defensively. their offense was terrible

GOBB
08-13-2012, 08:52 AM
the sixers won games last year because they were elite defensively. their offense was terrible

Exactly. Their offense was their defense (transition buckets). Halfcourt? I wanted to cry watching them.

GOBB
08-13-2012, 08:58 AM
There's also a good chance Bynum gets exposed next season. No more Kobe and Gasol to take the pressure off of him anymore. I expect him to crack under pressure as the #1 option being double and triple teamed nightly. And Spencer Hawes is slow and un-athletic as $hit. He's a poor mans Gary Bradley.

Exposed against who? What teams? Sixers have two ball handlers capable of penetrating along with passing in Jrue Holiday and Evan Turner. They break down defense, drive to the rim and dish to Bynum who is good at finding open spaces. They can run pick n rolls where they lob it to Bynum who has a size advantage over most bigs in the East he'll face. Double teamed and triple teamed nightly? Thad Young at PF is a good cutter and finisher at rim.

Cant wait til Sixers face your Nets. Bynum is going to f*ck Brook Shields in the ass with no lube.

hawkfan
08-13-2012, 09:22 AM
Exposed against who? What teams? Sixers have two ball handlers capable of penetrating along with passing in Jrue Holiday and Evan Turner. They break down defense, drive to the rim and dish to Bynum who is good at finding open spaces. They can run pick n rolls where they lob it to Bynum who has a size advantage over most bigs in the East he'll face. Double teamed and triple teamed nightly? Thad Young at PF is a good cutter and finisher at rim.

Cant wait til Sixers face your Nets. Bynum is going to f*ck Brook Shields in the ass with no lube.

The Sixers need an upgrade over Hawes at power forward if they really want to win a championship.

GOBB
08-13-2012, 10:05 AM
The Sixers need an upgrade over Hawes at power forward if they really want to win a championship.

Totally agree. I aint happy with Hawes. Would love an upgrade. Sixers not a title contender. I think they can get to 2nd rd with a chance at ECF. Before? 1 and done.

Anaximandro1
08-13-2012, 10:45 AM
solid roster.could make some noise this NBA season

AK47DR91
08-13-2012, 09:53 PM
Just realized, without the Nets in New Jersey, this is like a homecoming for Bynum. His hometown is only 54-minute drive away.

East_Stone_Ya
08-14-2012, 05:26 AM
why would they move Hawes to PF position?

CryinInTheCar
08-14-2012, 05:32 AM
Exposed against who? What teams? Sixers have two ball handlers capable of penetrating along with passing in Jrue Holiday and Evan Turner. They break down defense, drive to the rim and dish to Bynum who is good at finding open spaces. They can run pick n rolls where they lob it to Bynum who has a size advantage over most bigs in the East he'll face. Double teamed and triple teamed nightly? Thad Young at PF is a good cutter and finisher at rim.

Cant wait til Sixers face your Nets. Bynum is going to f*ck Brook Shields in the ass with no lube.

Lopez has dominated Bynum throughout their careers dummy. :rolleyes:

ihatetimthomas
08-14-2012, 05:54 AM
Lopez has dominated Bynum throughout their careers dummy. :rolleyes:

And that makes him better than Bynum? No one in their right mind would take Lopez over Bynum.

Bynum is going to have a great year, unlimited touches and he will put up career stats.

Optimus Prime
08-14-2012, 10:28 AM
Jrue Holiday/Roy Ivey/Malik Wayns
Jason Richardson/Nick Young
Evan Turner/Dorrel Wright
Spencer Hawes/Thaddeus Young/Lavoy Allen/Arnett Moultrie
Andruw Bynum/Kwame Brown

Ballgame bishes:bowdown:

That's ... actually a pretty solid lineup. Forgot they got Jrich who was probably the least awful of the bad contracts Orlando had.

Bynum will beast in the Least :bowdown:

:kobe:

alwaysunny
08-14-2012, 10:41 AM
If Philly theoretically acquired Bynum without moving Iggy then they would easily be 2nd seed. I guess we'll soon find out how valuable Iggy was to this team. It's kinda hard to make of him because he's been playing for 1 team his whole career.

But daymnn the EAST is coming baaack
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mNMdjCWM-Q

Optimus Prime
08-14-2012, 10:45 AM
How much did Bron, Bosh lose?

Lebron actually took a below market rate for a superstar to form the SuperFriends. Bosh is just happy that dinosaurs are apparently allowed to win rings.

Besides they left in free agency under the old CBA so your point is moot anyway.

:kobe:

HylianNightmare
08-14-2012, 10:52 AM
caqn't wait to see what Arnett Moultrie turns into and i'm super salty about the sixers getting Maalik Wayns:banghead:

GOBB
08-14-2012, 11:48 AM
Lebron actually took a below market rate for a superstar to form the SuperFriends. Bosh is just happy that dinosaurs are apparently allowed to win rings.

Besides they left in free agency under the old CBA so your point is moot anyway.

:kobe:

So you're saying sign and trades under the new CBA cant happen? Bynum cant get his money from Sixers and his cake by being traded to a team he wants to play for?

GOBB
08-14-2012, 11:49 AM
If Philly theoretically acquired Bynum without moving Iggy then they would easily be 2nd seed. I guess we'll soon find out how valuable Iggy was to this team. It's kinda hard to make of him because he's been playing for 1 team his whole career.

But daymnn the EAST is coming baaack
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mNMdjCWM-Q

I would still want Iggy traded under that scenerio. Preferably for a PF or a legitimate starting shooter.

ripthekik
08-14-2012, 11:59 AM
Suckers still suck. They haven't been relevant since AI. And that's been like 6 years now? They're the team that's not bad enough for lottery, but not good enough to get anywhere in the playoffs.

Free ass kicking for the Heat/Celtics/Bulls every year in the playoffs. If you get them in the 1st round it's basically your ticket to second round. :oldlol:

dumb fans think Bynum is the next Kareem or smth. :roll:

Optimus Prime
08-14-2012, 12:03 PM
So you're saying sign and trades under the new CBA cant happen? Bynum cant get his money from Sixers and his cake by being traded to a team he wants to play for?

The new CBA is a monster but I believe that teams will no longer be able to do sign and trades. That's what I've been hearing and reading anyway but who knows ... the thing is a massively complex monstrosity.

:kobe:

niko
08-14-2012, 12:05 PM
So you're saying sign and trades under the new CBA cant happen? Bynum cant get his money from Sixers and his cake by being traded to a team he wants to play for?
S&T are allowed. They are not allowed for teams over the tax line by $4M (called the apron). So this thought that ESPN pushed that Houston would get Howard, then be forced to trade him to Brooklyn for their crap didn't work because they are over the apron. (It's also why the Paul to NY rumors which will be pushed also don't work.)

I also think S&T doesn't give the benefit it used to for the player being traded.

Optimus Prime
08-14-2012, 12:07 PM
S&T are allowed. They are not allowed for teams over the tax line by $4M (called the apron). So this thought that ESPN pushed that Houston would get Howard, then be forced to trade him to Brooklyn for their crap didn't work because they are over the apron. (It's also why the Paul to NY rumors which will be pushed also don't work.)

I also think S&T doesn't give the benefit it used to for the player being traded.

Thanks for the clarafication. That makes sense ... teams over the tax line cannot do sign and trades and they don't provide the benefit they used to.

:kobe:

GOBB
08-14-2012, 12:27 PM
Stop posing that stupid Kobe photo dumbass.


S&T are allowed. They are not allowed for teams over the tax line by $4M (called the apron). So this thought that ESPN pushed that Houston would get Howard, then be forced to trade him to Brooklyn for their crap didn't work because they are over the apron. (It's also why the Paul to NY rumors which will be pushed also don't work.)

I also think S&T doesn't give the benefit it used to for the player being traded.

Solid info.

ProfessorMurder
02-28-2013, 04:24 PM
Hey, how's that great lineup of Hawes at PF and Bynum at C working out for the Sixers?