2012-13 EC regular season prediction game [Archive] - Message Board Basketball Forum

bokes15

08-10-2012, 11:34 AM

And yes, i'm making this thread because of Jballer. :oldlol: I would like to just bump the other 4-5 threads where he has 10 teams definitely a ahead of us but i'd rather just keep it simple and have a prediction thread of the EC standings.

Official Rules:
- 2 points for each correct team in the exact spot
- 16 bonus points for all 8 playoff teams in in exact order.
- 10 bonus points for all 8 playoff teams in any order.
- 4 bonus points for 6 playoff teams in any order

Last years final standings
1. Chicago 50-16
2. Miami 46-20
3. Indiana 42-24
4. Boston 39-27
5. Atlanta 40-26
6. Orlando 37-29
7. New York 36-30
8. Philly 35-31
9. Milwaukee 31-35
10. Detroit 25-41
11. Toronto 23-43
12. NJ 22-44
13. Cleveland 21-45
14. Washington 20-46
15. Charlotte 7-59

Participants (thus far):
bokes15
bluerap
jballer
and1
clipse
burgz_v2
lilb
sessel15
Grey Dawn
Dr. Funk
keantona
Zan Tabak

bokes15

08-10-2012, 12:23 PM

Bokes15 predictions:

1. Miami
2. Boston
3. Indiana
4. NJ Nets
5. NY Knicks
6. Philly
7. Chicago
8. Milwaukee
9. Atlanta
10. Toronto
11. Washington
12. Detroit
13. Orlando
14. Cleveland
15. Charlotte

That's my official prediction but I really feel like 1-6 is pretty solid, it may not end up in that order but I feel strongly that those will be the top 6 teams in the EC. But then 7-13 i'm pretty unsure about because all of those teams have a lot of questions so we'll see what happens.

bluerap

08-10-2012, 12:40 PM

bokes15

08-10-2012, 12:44 PM

Interesting. I don't have a problem with those picks except for Chicago at 3 without Rose until March. I don't see that happening at all.

Jballer

08-10-2012, 01:29 PM

1. Miami
2. Boston
3. Indianapolis
4. Philly
5. Chicago
6. Brooklyn
7. NY Knicks
8. Washington
9. Atlanta
10.Toronto
11.Milwaukee
12.Detroit
13.Cleveland
14 Charlotte
15.Orlando

I actually struggle with 9 through 12.

I feel solid on Washington making the playoffs - though other disagree here. :cheers: Talent - experience - and an improvement to middling defence much like the Raptors were able to accomplish last year will move them up. Walls turnovers are a combination of "lacking talent to pass too", "trying to do too much on his own" and "sophmore jinx". With Nene / Okafur in the low post - lots of pick and rolls for Wall. Beal doesnt need to do much more than float to the open spot, stoke a wide open bucket or 5 or 10, and learn to play some dedicated D against guys that want to school him. The last will be hardest.

Toronto and Detroit - so much depends on deliverence of "upside" in multiple players - even moreso than other teams in the conference with rookies. Demar Derozan and Brandon Knight. Val and Drummond. The big men need to show up and also "get the calls from the refs in their favor" not just against them. Both have big men options that can score - Barges/Monroe.

Toronto should be ahead because KLow is a proven PG even though Tay is a proven swingman. Tay is older than Jesus - Klow is in his prime.

Both have cap (Detroit if it amnesties Charile V next year) and both will be interesting to see how they develop over the next 2 years.

Both teams will knock down a number of teams from above once the talent is proven or another player is added. Note most of the teams above have no cap room for 3+ years ! (Atlanta could have if they blow everyone off roster).

Should award points for this end of season :cheers:

And 1

08-10-2012, 01:30 PM

1. Miami
2. Boston
3. Brooklyn
4. Indiana

5. Chicago
6. New York

7. Philadelphia
8. Milwaukee
9. Atlanta
10. Toronto
11. Detroit
12. Cleveland

13. Washington
14. Orlando
15. Charlotte

I have to admit, this was one of the offseasons that I haven't followed very closely, and some teams could be out of place based on moves I am unaware of.

bokes15

08-10-2012, 03:11 PM

Jballer

08-10-2012, 03:13 PM

Wizards... been saying it .. funny timing other see it too:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1291480-washington-wizards-5-optimistic-predictions-for-wizards-in-the-2012-13-season#/articles/1291480-washington-wizards-5-optimistic-predictions-for-wizards-in-the-2012-13-season/page/6

Wall
Beal
Vesely / Ariza
Okafur
Nene

Crawford off the bench.

Compared to

Lowry
Derozan
Landry Fields/ Kliza
Bargnani
Val

Ross off the bench.

bokes15

08-10-2012, 03:16 PM

I'm still not seeing what you're seeing. That's not a significantly better team than ours.

clipse

08-10-2012, 04:48 PM

My memory is hazey, can someone please tell me why Chicago wouldn't be struggling to make the playoffs? How long is rose out for? What offseason moves did they make?

I'm also thinking we can finish ahead of ATL and the bucks.

Miami - obvious
Boston - lost ray, but have jet and Avery coming back from injury
Indy - will win the central with rose being injured
Brooklyn - a lot of talent, injuries will play a role due to thin roster
Philly - could finish ahead of the nets, I feel their success will depend on turner
NY - too much talent to finish lower, but not enough to beat Brooklyn due to dwill facilitating vs melo hindering the offense. Philly should have better chemistry and will have Bynum anchoring an already stiffling defense
Chicago - if rose comes back early enough, they will still make the post season. The rest of the team will need to hold it down, and deng possibly skipping the wrist surgery could be a bad decision.
Washington - wall was supposed to explode last year. I think his breakout will be this year with a regular schedule and training camp.
Toronto - I think they will finish just shy of the playoffs.

Don't really feel like thinking the rest of the EC standings...

bokes15

08-10-2012, 05:02 PM

My memory is hazey, can someone please tell me why Chicago wouldn't be struggling to make the playoffs? How long is rose out for?
I BEEN saying this. I don't know if people just believe this team without Rose is much better than I think it is, but Rose is likely out for most of the season. The reports have been out that he is out until late March. The regular season ends in April, so best case scenario they probably get 10-15 games out of him. And he's not gonna come in as MVP Rose right away either.

Burgz V2

08-10-2012, 05:05 PM

1. Miami
2. Indiana
3. Boston
4. Philly
5. Brooklyn
6. Chicago
7. NY Knicks
8. Atlanta
9. Milwaukee
10. Toronto
11. Cleveland
12. Washington
13. Charlotte
14. Detroit
15. Orlando

10-15 im really not too sure, i think it could be a jumpball

8/9 could be interchangeable, I think Milwaukee has a slight edge on Atlanta in terms of their backcourt but Atlanta still has the more talented frontcourt

5-7 to me are very fluid depending on how Chicago does without Rose and how well the Knicks do in general

I think 1-4 is pretty much set, the only question mark being philly but I really think the trade makes them a much more dangerous team. They now have a deep post threat as opposed to last year, and evan turner and jrue holiday look to be turning the corner in terms of their development

Indiana to me is the sleeper even though I have them at 2, they really should be in the ECF when all is said and done.

Burgz V2

08-10-2012, 05:11 PM

Ok so official Rules:
- 2 points for each correct team in the exact spot
- 16 bonus points for all 8 playoff teams in in exact order.
- 10 bonus points for all 8 playoff teams in any order.
- 4 bonus points for 6 playoff teams in any order

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/funny-animal-captions-animal-capshunz-oh-its-already-been-brought-en.jpg

lilbeastnani

08-10-2012, 06:12 PM

1. Miami
2. Indy
3. Boston
4. Philly
5. NYK
6. Brooklyn
7. Atlanta
8. Chicago
9. Toronto
10. Washington
11. Milwaukee
12. Detroit
13. Cleveland
14. Charlotte
15. Orlando

bluerap

08-10-2012, 11:37 PM

Interesting. I don't have a problem with those picks except for Chicago at 3 without Rose until March. I don't see that happening at all.

Chicago bulls record without derek rose 18-9

they will be fine.

they only really need him for the post-season.

bokes15

08-11-2012, 01:02 AM

Doesn't mean much. There's a difference between losing a guy at various times here and there throughout the course of a season and actually facing the fact that they won't have him until well after the all-star break. They definitely still have a solid roster, capable of playing +.500 ball, but I don't think the transition of replacing him almost full time with Hinrich/Teague is gonna be a seemless as people seem to think.

Grey Dawn

08-11-2012, 08:04 AM

Mine, excluding division winning placement (i.e. actual records):

1. Miami Heat
2. Indiana
3. NY Knicks
4. Philla 76ers
5. Detroit Pistons
6. Boston Celtics
7. Brooklyn Nets
8. Atlanta Hawks
9. Chicago Bulls
10. Toronto Craptors
11. Washington Wizards
12. Cleveland Cavs
13. Milwaukee Bucks
14. Orlando Magic
15. Charlotte Poopcats

Dr.Funk

08-11-2012, 09:17 AM

1. Miami Heat
2. Indiana Pacers
3. Brooklyn Nets
4. Boston Celtics
5. Philadelphia 76ers
6. New York Knicks
7. Atlanta Hawks
8. Milwaukee Bucks
9. Detroit Pistons
10. Washington Wizards
11. Toronto Raptors
12. Chicago Bulls
13. Orlando Magic
14. Cleveland Cavaliers
15. Charlotte Bobcats

SESSEL15

08-11-2012, 10:49 AM

Miami
Boston
Brooklyn
Indiana
Philadelphia
New York
Chicago
Toronto
Atlanta
Milwaukee
Washington
Cleveland
Detroit
Orlando
Charlotte

Jballer

08-12-2012, 11:59 AM

Miami
Boston
Brooklyn
Indiana
Philadelphia
New York
Chicago
Toronto
Atlanta
Milwaukee
Washington
Cleveland
Detroit
Orlando
Charlotte

Our first playoff bound prediction ! :cheers:

Part of me hopes your right ! Dont see it.....but....

Jballer

08-12-2012, 12:06 PM

I see a lot of down on Chicago and high on Brooklyn.

I see that backwards.

Interestingly my take is Chicago will be fine - not first place but solid upper half behind Miami Boston Indy et al

Brooklyn is a team I see some issues for. Chemistry wont be there right off the bat. Johnson always suspect of lazy defense. Gwal is old. Still on Dron. Is the big man Lope as real as the promise and money or does he coast on the big contract being the 4th option?? Too talented not to make the playoffs but a weak start to the season would not surprise me..... loosing some games to a team like Toronto when they are expected to win....

Now hardly surprising cause I do have Washington a lot higher than most or all you.... but season will tell. :cheers:

keantona

08-12-2012, 06:57 PM

1. Miami Heat
2. Brooklyn Nets
3. Boston Celtics
4. Philadelphia 76ers
5. Indiana Pacers
6. Chicago Bulls
7. New York Knicks
8. Atlanta Hawks
9. Milwaukee Bucks
10. Detroit Pistons
11. Washington Wizards
12. Toronto Raptors
13. Cleveland Cavaliers
14. Orlando Magic
15. Charlotte Bobcats

Burgz V2

08-13-2012, 01:05 AM

SESSEL15

08-13-2012, 01:34 AM

Our first playoff bound prediction ! :cheers:

Part of me hopes your right ! Dont see it.....but....

Somebody had to do it , lol

Jballer

08-13-2012, 09:06 AM

*Bump Thread*

Not that this should change your mind but an interesting take.

https://bleacherreport.com

Post Olympic Power ranking

[U]25 Toronto Raptors
For the first time in a long time, the Toronto Raptors acquired talent worth acquiring.

By obtaining Kyle Lowry from the Houston Rockets, the Raptors not only showed that they are ready to move on from Jose Calderon, but they are also serious about competing and becoming a relevant team.

It's either that or get left way behind in a stacked Atlantic Division. It's a given that they'll most likely end up behind four teams that could make the postseason, but it's a positive that they'll actually feature some solid talent worth relying on.

Joining Lowry will be draft picks Terrence Ross and Quincy Acy, as well as Landry Fields, John Lucas III and Jonas Valanciunas, who was the Raptors' lottery pick from last year. Hopefully, the Olympics aren't a strong showing of what to expect next year, because Valanciunas didn't exactly impress anyone in his time with Lithuania.

Then again, it's not as if Linas Kleiza ever plans on transferring his expertise in the international game to the NBA.

Also, they gave Landry Fields $20 million. Sorry to bring it up.

24. Detroit Pistons

They're not exactly on par with their counterparts of the late-1980's or the mid-'2000's, but the 2012 Detroit Pistons can at least say they're on the right track to becoming a quality team.

Through an excellent draft where they took center Andre Drummond, power forward Khris Middleton and guard Kim English, the Pistons have surrounded a young, talented roster with even more talent that could potentially change the outlook of this team for the better.

You may not have noticed, but the Pistons started to look really good by season's end and will be looking to carry that momentum into the coming season.

While the Pistons didn't do much in terms of free agency, they're more reliant on the roster they have instead of pursuing players who could potentially make the team better. It's not that bad of an idea considering the team is sporting the likes of Brandon Knight and Greg Monroe.

However, the team did trade away Ben Gordon for Corey Maggette, and that's always a good thing.

21 Milwaukee Bucks

I can't believe I'm saying it, but who else is excited for Milwaukee Bucks basketball?

In recent years, the Bucks have been playing this incoherent and jumbled mess of a game on the offensive end. Even with Brandon Jennings running the point, the Bucks couldn't snap out of this offense that set a limit at 95 points as its max. They were a good defensive team, but their offense was too inconsistent to support the entire team.

That may change this season. Set to play in their first full season together, Jennings and Monta Ellis combine to form one of the league's most dynamic backcourts. Jennings' abilities as a shooter and Ellis' abilities to drive means that there should be little discrepancy between the two when it comes to finding their spots on the floor.

The Bucks will be coming out the gates with a slightly new roster with Samuel Dalembert set to replace Andrew Bogut and rookie John Henson looking to make his voice heard as the team's resident shot-blocker

20 Washington Wizards

Month by month goes by, and the Washington Wizards are appearing less like the laughingstock of the NBA and more like a team that's striving for relevance.

They took another step in the right direction this offseason. They utilized the draft to fill in a void at the two by selecting Bradley Beal and traded the contract of Rashard Lewis for Emeka Okafor and Trevor Ariza.

With Okafor and Ariza possibly joining Nene Hilario in the starting frontcourt next year, the Wizards suddenly don't look all that bad. Also, with the Orlando Magic losing a lot of ground and going into rebuilding mode, the Wizards could take advantage and become the third-best team in a division that may only have one postseason team.

The Wizards will continue to rely on young talent to get them to the next level, as they will also be continuing to keep a close eye on the development of Trevor Booker, Kevin Seraphin, Jordan Crawford and Jan Vesely.

Most of all, they'll be looking to John Wall to begin taking the next step

Zan Tabak

08-13-2012, 09:13 AM

I'll throw my name into the hat. Most likely to be very wrong. :cheers:

1 Heat
2 Celtics
3 Nets
4 Pacers
5 Bulls
6 Knicks
7 Hawks
8 76ers
9 Bucks
10 Raptors
11 Pistons
12 Wizards
13 Cav's
14 Magic
15 Bobcats

kingchessking

08-14-2012, 04:13 AM

1 Heat
2 Celtics
3 Pacers
4 Knicks
5 Nets
6 76ers
7 Bulls
8 Hawks
9 Wizards
10 Bucks
11 Cavs
12 Raptors
13 Pistons
14 Bobcats
15 Magic

I'm not entirely sure, but atm I do think the wizard will be much improved this season (largely depends on Wall finally having some talent and players with correct attitudes around him), Cavs/Raps/Pistons all seem about the same to me right now. Nets at 5 (haven't seen them play, i like the backcourt, not sold on their frontcourt)
- actual result will probably be very different :oldlol:

FCardelle

08-14-2012, 07:07 AM

1.Miami
2.Brooklyn
3.NY
4.Indiana
5.Boston
6.Chicago
7.Philadelphia
8.Washington
9.Milwaukee
10.Toronto
11.Atlanta
12.Detroit
13.Orlando
14.Cleveland
15.Charlotte

Celtics are a year older and they finished last season stronger than expected.
NY and Nets are more talented than Indiana or Philly.
I rank Toronto above the tanking teams.

BTW, longing for next fantasy season.

kmart

08-14-2012, 05:25 PM

1. Miami
2. Boston
3. Indy
4. Chicago
5. Brooklyn
6. Philly
7. New York
8. Toronto
9. Milwaukee
10. Atlanta
11. Detroit
12. Washington
13. Cleveland
14. Orlando
15. Charlotte

Chamberlain

08-14-2012, 05:45 PM

1. Miami Heat
2. Indiana Pacers
3. Brooklyn Nets
4. Boston Celtics
5. New York Knicks
6. Philadelphia 76ers
7. Chicago Bulls
8. Atlanta Hawks
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9. Milwaukee Bucks
10. Washington Wizards
11. Detroit Pistons
12. Toronto Raptors
13. Orlando Magic
14. Cleveland Cavaliers
15. Charlotte Bobcats

-I think Miami is a no brainer for the #1 spot.
-Pacers were very solid last year and had a good playoff showing, can't see another team being better than them (regular season) other than Miami.
-Brooklyn's record depends on their health, but they added Joe Johnson and should finish ahead of Boston because of the age factor.
-I think Boston is probably the 2nd best team in the East but their age and injuries will play a factor in their regular season record.
-Knicks have Two superstars, and added veteran depth. With Linsanity over, its time for the two superstars to step it up.
-Philly lost their best player but have great depth behind him, and added the 2nd best Center in the league.
-Chicago will struggle early, but when/if Rose comes back, they'll be able to sneak into the playoffs. Record depends on how quickly Rose returns to game action/100%.
-Atlanta is still a pretty talented team, but they'll be in a battle for the last spot.

Dr.Funk

08-14-2012, 08:02 PM

-Chicago will struggle early, but when/if Rose comes back, they'll be able to sneak into the playoffs. Record depends on how quickly Rose returns to game action/100%.
.

I see Chicago strugging early on then basically they will try and tank and get a good pick then win the lottery then when Rose is back next year they will be even more deadly.

Chamberlain

08-14-2012, 08:07 PM

Also a very possible outcome. I think it depends on just how badly they do without Rose. If they're playing around .500 and he's available to come back in February, I think he comes back. Though, if they struggle really badly, I could definitely see him just sitting out the year.

bokes15

08-14-2012, 08:14 PM

Just an FYI for anyone curious:
http://www.rantsports.com/courtcrusades/2012/08/13/derrick-rose-will-not-be-rushed-back-according-to-bulls-owner/

As Chicago Bulls guard Derrick Rose continues to rehab his torn ACL, there has been wide speculation as to when the former MVP will be back in action. While reports have ranged from an optimistic January return to as long as the entire season, Bulls owner Jerry Reinsdorf weighed in on the matter during a radio appearance on ESPN 1000’s “Talking Baseball” show Saturday.

“I’m not going to let him come back until the doctors tell me that it’s absolutely safe for him to come back,” Reinsdorf said. “I made that mistake with Michael Jordan years ago where I think we let him come back too soon. It worked out OK, but it might not have. This time I’m not going to make that mistake. Until the doctors say he’s 100 percent and they put their reputations on the line, he’s not coming back.”

Hearing Reinsdorf compare Rose to Jordan is a positive sign for Bulls fans, considering the owner’s unwillingness to invest in a team that isn’t a title contender. The Bulls will pay the luxury tax this year for the first time in the team’s history, despite a lackluster offseason. Despite trade rumors surrounding the 2012 NBA Draft, Chicago ultimately opted to keep the core in tact, while replacing the “Bench Mob” that had helped lead the Bulls to the best record in the NBA last season. The replacements: Kirk Hinrich, Nate Robinson, Marco Belinelli, Nazr Mohammed and draft pick Marquis Teague. Not terrible, but not players that put the team in a better position to compete for a title.

Despite the loss of Rose, the Bulls will likely be playoff bound in the weaker Eastern Conference. But with several teams upgrading in free agency and through the draft as well as the Miami Heat looking more dominant than ever, the Bulls could be stuck in “basketball hell” until greater changes are made.

Sucks for them that if they really pull the strategy of hover around .500 until whenever he comes back and them make a playoff push, there are quite possibly gonna be at least 3 or 4 teams that are significantly better than them by that point. And they don't have a team that even with a healthy D.Rose can legitimately compete for a title or even an EC crown.

Grey Dawn

08-18-2012, 03:06 AM

I agree that Nets being high up there is hardly a given.

D-Will has a horrible attitude and Joe Johnson can disappear for multiple games in a row.

Chamberlain

08-18-2012, 12:10 PM

I agree that Nets being high up there is hardly a given.

D-Will has a horrible attitude and Joe Johnson can disappear for multiple games in a row.

Williams has an attitude problem? I'm not very familiar with that other than the whole Jerry Sloan thing.

The Nets are definitely a mystery of a team, but with health, they could definitely compete for home court advantage in the east. Playing in the toughest division in the East may hurt their record a bit, but I think they're an obvious playoff team with the ability to make a pretty decent run.

-Joe Johnson playing with the best PG he's ever played with
-Deron Williams playing with the best swingman he's ever played with.
-Health from Williams and Lopez will go a long way
-Gerald Wallace can focus on his defense/rebounding with Johnson on board
-MarShon Brooks probably continues to improve
-Reggie Evans AND Kris Humphries taking the brunt of the dirty work away from Lopez.

They aren't the deepest team, but if they could add another 3 point threat to their bench, I think they're in a pretty favourable position going forward.

bokes15

08-18-2012, 04:04 PM

IMO D-Will doesn't have attitude problems, at least not serious ones. Guys like Demarcus Cousins and Andrew Bynum as an example, those are guys with clear bad attitudes. It's well documented and lots of people say they haven't liked coaching them or playing with them. In the case of D-Will, he like many other great players allowed his emotions to get the best of him when things weren't going his way in terms of the team, the roster, winning, all of that. You see that happen with many of the greats. Dirk, Kobe, Lebron, etc... they all had bouts of it. But I feel as though on this team with his new teammates, he will be happy again, and full committed to winning. I don't think they will have anything to worry about in terms of his attitude, he's just an ultra competitive dude and that's a good thing.

bokes15

08-19-2012, 03:15 AM

One other thing I thought of just now is that Andrew Bynum is gonna be playing for the SIXERS. Doug Collins seems to be the right type of coach for him. He's down to earth it seems but he's also no nonsense. I think he'll force Bynum to give more of an effort on the defense end and to stop half assing the way he does. And that sense of entitlement of his, out the door. And I didn't even know they were gonna get J-Rich as well. They have quite a solid team over there too.

SourPatchKids

08-19-2012, 04:07 AM

Yea but I'm going to miss Iggy though. :(

Chamberlain

08-19-2012, 09:46 AM

bokes15

08-19-2012, 12:57 PM

Philadelphia has greatly improved their team. I actually think that Arnett Moultrie will have a very good rookie season. Evan Turner and Thaddeus Young will have a lot more responsibilities but I think they will both thrive with Iggy out of the way. Nick Young is a pretty hot and cold player but he is a definite threat from beyond the arc. And as Bokes said, add in the veteran leadership and athleticism of Jason Richardson, you've got a pretty dangerous team capable of making some noise.
In all honesty, IMO even as a 1-1 trade Bynum >>>> Iggy. Amazing trade for the Sixers to get Bynum and Jrich for Iggy. He's actually 3 years younger and a bigger impact player due to his size and position. As I said If he can get his attitude in check and remain relatively healthy, they're in for a steal. Then they can plug in Nick Young for instant offense off the bench behind J-Rich. I wasn't aware that Lou Will went to the Hawks, so that may hurt their depth a little but who knows maybe Jrue Holiday will step up and have a break out season. He's only 22. And playing with a true back to the basket Center will help all those perimeter guys out anyways.

Jballer

08-21-2012, 08:53 PM

The Nets are definitely a mystery of a team, but with health....

snip

They aren't the deepest team, but if they could add another 3 point threat to their bench, I think they're in a pretty favourable position going forward.

This +1

I think they are too good to miss the playoffs - I think this team will need time to gel - find floor space for each other - determine where those open looks are.

Mostly vets so 20 games will do it... but i wont be surprised by a few bone head losses to Raptors Cavs etc.

I think Dwil is fine although there are hints of dwightmare in his should I stay or go....Joe does take DEFENCE breathers second half.... but he has more if older talent to snap him out of it.

Jballer

10-02-2012, 09:39 AM

Bump

1. Miami
2. Boston
3. Indianapolis
4. Philly
5. Chicago
6. Brooklyn
7. NY Knicks
8. Atlanta
9. Toronto
10. Washington
11.Milwaukee
12.Detroit
13.Cleveland
14 Charlotte
15.Orlando

Have to rejig before season starts - John Wall gone for 2 months.

Toronto projected to be 9th in conference with 29 - 35 wins missing the playoffs and given Houston our pick

bokes15

10-02-2012, 12:05 PM

I should've made this post around the end of September instead. I'm pretty sure when I originally made my predictions I was unaware of the Bynum trade.

Zan Tabak

10-02-2012, 12:41 PM

I'm feeling a lil sketchy about my picks too. I put Chicago in the 5th spot, not feeling to confident about that. I can see them finishing much lower. Maybe even missing the playoffs.

Jballer

10-02-2012, 01:49 PM

No need for a new thread - just a date time stamp.

Last official posting should be i.e. September 29 at 12:00 noon - or something like that.

Walls injury is my bugaboo - but other than that I am reasonably confident.

Jballer

10-06-2012, 04:49 PM

Bump...

Post your last standings projections before game 1

Jballer

10-22-2012, 02:32 PM

Jfoxtail final

1. Miami
2. Boston
3. Indianapolis
4. Philly
5. Brooklyn
6. Chicago
7. NY Knicks
8. Detroit
9. Atlanta
10. Toronto
11. Washington
12. Milwaukee
13.Cleveland
14 Charlotte
15.Orlando

Having seen the energy Detroit is bringing I am giving them the 8th and final. They also get more in division games verses Cavs, Bucks, and could shock the Bulls early on i.e. before DRose comes back.

Washington was my preseason dark horse - and I still think the team has an upset role to play but it depends on when JWall comes back and how healthy.

9 - 10 - 11 - 12 could all be separated by 1 game. Toronto suffers more than most playing more in division games head to head verses 76'er, Nets, Knicks, and Celtics.

Toronto 38 wins !

Last call before season starts

Sakkreth

10-22-2012, 03:32 PM

1. Miami
2. Boston
3. Indiana
4. Philly
5. Chicago
6. Brooklyn
7. NY
8. Atlanta
9. Toronto
10. Milwaukee
11. Cleveland
12. Detroit
13. Washington
14. Charlotte
15. Orlando

Damn east Sucks :D

Chamberlain

10-22-2012, 03:58 PM

1. Miami
2. Indiana
3. Boston
4. Brooklyn
5. New York
6. Philadelphia
7. Chicago
8. Atlanta

9. Milwaukee
10. Washington
11. Detroit
12. Toronto
13. Cleveland
14. Orlando
15. Charlotte

barkleynash

10-22-2012, 06:35 PM

1. Miami
2. Boston
3. Indiana
4. NJ Nets
5. Philly
6. Toronto
7. Chicago
8. New York
9. Atlanta
10 Bucks
11. Washington
12. Detroit
13. Cleveland
14. Orlando
15. Charlotte

Chamberlain

10-22-2012, 06:40 PM

Who are these NJ Nets you speak of?

Jballer

11-08-2012, 01:02 PM

Bump:

3 things playing out very early that may upset the list.

1) Bynum not playing and even when he does - will take time to gain chemistry with the 76ers. I am pretty sure they will be there soon when he is in the line up tho...

2) Danny Granger now out for 3 months in Indy. Yikes they need him a lot on that team. They may platoon to cover or trade but Indy will have some challenging times.

3) The Knicks are better than advertised without Amare. But it is early and the strife circus has yet to set in and Amare will be back. That actually may be one and the same observation.

3 things playing out as expected....

1) Your Toronto Raptors....

2) Nets are improved. JJ in Brooklyn adds to the whole team. Lopez seems to be a beneficiary as he has room to score and rebound.

3) Miami....

bokes15

11-08-2012, 02:52 PM

It's still very early.. But for my own list I think the only one that has been significantly impacted thus far has been my prediction of Indy because of the Granger injury. Everything else looks to play out somewhat close to how I expected it.

Jballer

11-15-2012, 11:53 AM

Bump early days...

We had discussions on Toronto and their relative position vis a vis Washington, Detroit, Milwaukee, and Atlanta. Teams at the "bubble 9th" that might be competative... I posted a summary from Bleecher report.

Well....

My Washington dark horse looks really bad as a prediction at 0 -7. Unless John Walll really does mean that much to the team when back, Okafur and Ariza were wasted trades. These guys seem in coast mode till Wall is in the lineup.

Detroit has 1 win albiet in a tough schedule to start the season. Looking at how close some of the losses are and the energy of the team - look for the Pistons to grab a few wins - perhaps starting with the Raptors ? Brandon Knoight has to find his shot and progression.

Bucks - better than predicted.

Hawks - meshing well.

Jballer

12-24-2012, 01:27 PM

1. Miami
2. Boston
3. Indianapolis
4. Philly
5. Brooklyn
6. Chicago
7. NY Knicks
8. Detroit
9. Atlanta
10. Toronto
11. Washington
12. Milwaukee
13.Cleveland
14 Charlotte
15.Orlando

1. Heat 18 6 .750 0.5 8-3 3-1 13-2 5-4 Won 4
2. Knicks 20 7 .741 0.0 13-3 4-1 12-2 8-5 Won 1
3. Hawks 16 9 .640 3.0 10-4 8-2 9-5 7-4 Won 1
4. Bulls 15 11 .577 4.5 11-4 4-2 8-6 7-5 Lost 1
5. Pacers 16 12 .571 4.5 8-6 4-2 8-3 8-9 Won 3
6. Nets 14 12 .538 5.5 11-6 6-2 9-6 5-6 Won 1
7. Bucks 14 12 .538 5.5 12-6 5-2 7-6 7-6 Lost 1
8. Celtics 13 13 .500 6.5 8-10 2-4 9-5 4-8 Lost 1
9. 76ers 13 15 .464 7.5 8-10 4-4 9-7 4-8 Lost 1
10. Magic 12 15 .444 8.0 5-10 2-2 7-7 5-8 Lost 2
11. Raptors 9 19 .321 11.5 5-8 0-5 7-5 2-14 Won 5
12. Pistons 9 21 .300 12.5 7-8 2-2 6-8 3-13 Won 2
13. Bobcats 7 20 .259 13.0 5-7 2-4 5-10 2-10 Lost 15
14. Cavaliers 6 23 .207 15.0 4-15 1-8 3-9 3-14 Won 1
15. Wizards 3 22 .120 16.0 1-16 1-7 2-10 1-12 Lost 7

Christmas Season check point... approx 33% of season done.

Clearly my expectations of the Wizard/Pistons dont look good now. Be interested to see what difference Wall will make.

NYKnicks more consistent than I thought (I hate the Knicks and always seem to mis judege them). Buck surprising me as well though I did note in thread that the Bucks team looked at least as good as Raptors pre-season.

Jballer

01-21-2013, 10:59 AM

January 21

1) Heat 26 12 .684 0.0 11-7 6-1 16-3 10-9 Won 2
2) Knicks 25 13 .658 1.0 15-6 4-2 14-5 10-8 Won 2
3) Pacers 25 16 .610 2.5 14-10 5-2 16-3 9-13 Won 1
4) Nets 24 16 .600 3.0 18-9 8-3 16-7 8-9 Won 1
5) Bulls 23 16 .590 3.5 19-6 5-3 11-11 12-5 Lost 1
6) Hawks 22 18 .550 5.0 14-10 8-3 13-7 9-11 Lost 2
7) Bucks 21 18 .538 5.5 16-9 6-5 10-9 11-9 Won 2
8) Celtics 20 20 .500 7.0 13-12 4-4 13-8 7-12 Lost 3
9) 76ers 17 23 .425 10.0 9-12 5-6 11-9 6-14 Won 1
10) Pistons 15 25 .375 12.0 12-11 4-2 11-10 4-14 Won 1
11) Raptors 15 26 .366 12.5 8-12 1-7 11-9 4-17 Won 1
12) Magic 14 26 .350 13.0 6-17 2-6 8-14 6-12 Lost 2
13) Bobcats 10 30 .250 17.0 8-14 3-5 5-16 5-14 Lost 1
14) Cavaliers 10 32 .238 18.0 7-18 1-9 4-12 6-20 Lost 1
15) Wizards 8 30 .211 18.0 4-21 4-8 6-13 2-17 Lost

Notes:
Here comes the Pistons.
Where are the real Celtics?
Will Philly turn it around? Schedule says they have a sopt to improve.

bokes15

01-21-2013, 11:11 AM

1. Miami
2. Boston
3. Indiana
4. BK Nets
5. NY Knicks
6. Philly
7. Chicago
8. Milwaukee
9. Atlanta
10. Toronto
11. Washington
12. Detroit
13. Orlando
14. Cleveland
15. Charlotte

These were my predictions.

So far 7/8 teams I predicted to make the playoffs are in. BUT, I never adjusted my post-Bynum trade predictions so oh well. I'll have to live with that one.

Also I probably reached a little by putting Boston as a 2nd seed just based on what we saw in last years playoffs and what impact I thought adding Terry/Lee and getting back Jeff Green and Avery Bradley was gonna have. But I still don't expect them to stay an 8th seed. I expect them to finish maybe 4 or 5 when it's all said and done.

Jballer

01-21-2013, 01:38 PM

My final picks in red two posts above.

I think we are all "out" on Celtics - some of us out on Philly.

Celtics will probably make a player move near deadline and I fully expect them to climb the charts.

76ers are different. Even if Bynum comes back the whole offense will change around Bynum and they may not climb. A soft schedule will help Drue Evans et al more in the immediate term.

I was sadly mistaken on my Wizards darkhorse team preseason but I adjusted after I heard Wall was out extended. Doesnt look like even if Wall this team is as functional as supposed.

Pistons starting to perform as I expected.

Knicks / Bulls / Nets seem to be "where most" expected. Atlanta still competative.

Bucks I think are the big team everyone had wrong. I posted a bleecher report blurb indicating how good they were but still underestimated them. Further though they may not be able to sustain their position given turmoil.

bokes15

01-21-2013, 02:00 PM

I don't fall into the everyone category though. I predicted them an an 8th seed and theyre in 7th right now.

lilbeastnani

01-21-2013, 11:02 PM

1. Miami
2. Indy
3. Boston
4. Philly
5. NYK
6. Brooklyn
7. Atlanta
8. Chicago
9. Toronto
10. Washington
11. Milwaukee
12. Detroit
13. Cleveland
14. Charlotte
15. Orlando
Yeah, I potentially underestimated Milwaukee by putting them in that 11th seed. And I put Philly in 4th I believe assuming they still had Andre Igoudala and no Bynum. I can't really say they're underachieving, because they pretty much lost their best player for nothing and don't even know if the guy who was supposed to play for him is ever gonna suit up for them.

Jballer

02-13-2013, 04:09 PM

Jfoxtail final

1. Miami
2. Boston
3. Indianapolis
4. Philly
5. Brooklyn
6. Chicago
7. NY Knicks
8. Detroit
9. Atlanta
10. Toronto
11. Washington
12. Milwaukee
13.Cleveland
14 Charlotte
15.Orlando

Standings todate Feb 13

1) Heat 35 14 .714 0.0 16-9 7-1 23-3 12-11 Won 6
2) Knicks 32 17 .653 3.0 20-9 5-4 19-7 13-10 Lost 1
3) Pacers 31 21 .596 5.5 19-12 7-2 20-5 11-16 Lost 2
4) Bulls 30 21 .588 6.0 23-9 7-4 15-12 15-9 Lost 1
5) Nets 30 22 .577 6.5 23-11 9-3 18-10 12-12 Won 1
6) Hawks 28 22 .560 7.5 17-13 9-3 17-9 11-13 Won 1
7) Celtics 27 24 .529 9.0 16-16 5-5 19-9 8-15 Lost 1
8) Bucks 25 25 .500 10.5 19-14 7-8 13-12 12-13 Lost 4
9) 76ers 22 28 .440 13.5 13-14 6-6 16-13 6-15 Lost 1
10) Raptors 20 32 .385 16.5 10-17 1-8 14-13 6-19 Won 3
11) Pistons 20 33 .377 17.0 16-17 6-5 14-15 6-18 Lost 1
12) Cavaliers 16 36 .308 20.5 12-19 2-10 9-15 7-21 Lost 2
13) Wizards 15 35 .300 20.5 8-22 4-8 11-14 4-21 Won 4
14) Magic 15 36 .294 21.0 6-26 2-6 9-17 6-19 Won 1
15) Bobcats 12 39 .235 24.0 9-19 3-7 7-19 5-20 Won

Just as i was confident the Pistons were a darkhorse - Drummond out !

Wizards actually won 4 but too little to late.

Bucks dropping.

Raptors have beat some very good teams and just might make a push ! Who knows ?

bokes15

03-03-2013, 03:46 PM

1. Miami (2)
2. Boston
3. Indiana (2)
4. NJ Nets
5. NY Knicks
6. Philly
7. Chicago
8. Milwaukee (2)
9. Atlanta
10. Toronto (2)
11. Washington
12. Detroit
13. Orlando
14. Cleveland
15. Charlotte (2)
Looks like 7/8 teams I predicted to be in the playoffs will most likely be going. The exception being Philly with no Bynum and the Hawks being in there when I had them at 9th. I have 3 teams in order thus far. Heat, Pacers, Bucks.

edit:

Official Rules:
- 2 points for each correct team in the exact spot
- 16 bonus points for all 8 playoff teams in in exact order.
- 10 bonus points for all 8 playoff teams in any order.
- 4 bonus points for 6 playoff teams in any order

Max points anyone could have is 46. Right now i'd be at 14 pts.

bluerap

03-04-2013, 08:54 AM

1. Miami
2. Boston
3. Chicago
4. Philly
5. Indy
6. Brooklyn
7. NY Knicks
8. Atlanta
9. Milwaukee
10. Toronto
11. Washington
12. Charlotte
13. Cleveland
14. Orlando
15. Detroit

I was pretty close overall. Philly screwed me.

I was also right about this

Chicago bulls record without derek rose 18-9

they will be fine.

they only really need him for the post-season.

lilbeastnani

03-04-2013, 12:12 PM

1. Miami
2. Indy
3. Boston
4. Philly
5. NYK
6. Brooklyn
7. Atlanta
8. Chicago
9. Toronto
10. Washington
11. Milwaukee
12. Detroit
13. Cleveland
14. Charlotte
15. Orlando
Philly f*cked me as well.
I'm at 10 points.

Jballer

03-06-2013, 11:47 AM

I am out there as well... Boston being less than expected, Philly being less expected, my final darkhorse of Detroit started to show but with Knight on and off on back spasms, and big D also off...not this year. Look out next year when they shed Charlie V and get another "player" of any sort.

My quote early on that the Bucks had a better team than the Raps (season beginng) looks right on but I didnt back it up with my prediction :cheers: Ahh hindsight is 20 20.

My original darkhorse pick was Washington. JohnW may not in fact be the man to build around - be interesting to see what Washington decides in the off season. Nene is a keeper and probably Beal, but Okafur, Ariza, JanV are all parts likely to move in the off season.

Jballer

03-06-2013, 11:48 AM

March 6 edition

W L Pct GB Conf Div Home Road Streak
1. Heat 44 14 .759 0.0 21-9 8-1 26-3 18-11 Won 15

2. Pacers 38 22 .633 7.0 25-12 10-2 25-6 13-16 Won 2

3. Knicks 36 21 .632 7.5 23-13 6-6 21-9 15-12 Won 1

4. Nets 34 26 .567 11.0 25-12 9-3 20-13 14-13 Lost 2

5. Bulls 34 26 .567 11.0 26-13 7-6 17-14 17-12 Lost 1

6. Hawks 33 26 .559 11.5 20-14 10-4 18-10 15-16 Lost 3

7. Celtics 32 27 .542 12.5 18-16 6-5 21-9 11-18 Won 3

8. Bucks 30 28 .517 14.0 21-17 7-8 16-14 14-14 Won 4

9. 76ers 23 36 .390 21.5 13-21 6-8 17-16 6-20 Lost 2

10. Raptors 23 38 .377 22.5 13-21 3-8 15-16 8-22 Lost 5
11. Pistons 23 39 .371 23.0 19-20 6-7 15-18 8-21 Lost 2

12. Cavaliers 20 40 .333 25.0 15-21 3-10 11-18 9-22 Lost 2

13. Wizards 19 39 .328 25.0 10-26 4-8 14-17 5-22 Won 1

14. Magic 17 44 .279 28.5 7-29 2-8 9-23 8-21 Won 1

15. Bobcats 13 47 .217 32.0 10-22 4-7 7-22 6-25 Lost 7

Jballer

03-25-2013, 09:54 AM

MARCH MADNESS VERSION

Jfoxtail final

1. Miami
2. Boston
3. Indianapolis
4. Philly
5. Brooklyn
6. Chicago
7. NY Knicks
8. Detroit
9. Atlanta
10. Toronto
11. Washington
12. Milwaukee
13.Cleveland
14 Charlotte
15.Orlando

W – L - % - GameBack – Conf – Div – Home – Road - Streak

1 Heat 55 14 .797 0.0 32-9 11-1 32-3 23-11 Won 26
2 Knicks 42 26 .618 12.5 27-13 8-6 24-10 18-16 Won 4
3 Pacers 43 27 .614 12.5 29-16 12-3 28-8 15-19 Lost 1
4 Nets 41 29 .586 14.5 29-14 9-4 22-14 19-15 Won 1
5 Hawks 39 31 .557 16.5 24-17 10-5 22-13 17-18 Won 1
6 Bulls 38 31 .551 17.0 27-13 8-6 19-16 19-15 Won 2
7 Celtics 36 33 .522 19.0 22-18 7-5 24-10 12-23 Lost 4
8 Bucks 34 35 .493 21.0 22-22 7-9 18-17 16-18 Lost 3
9 76ers 27 42 .391 28.0 15-25 7-8 20-17 7-25 Won 1
10 Raptors 26 44 .371 29.5 15-26 3-11 17-18 9-26 Lost 4
11 Wizards 25 44 .362 30.0 12-29 5-9 18-17 7-27 Lost 1
12 Pistons 24 47 .338 32.0 20-23 6-7 15-21 9-26 Won 1
13 Cavaliers 22 47 .319 33.0 16-24 3-11 13-21 9-26 Lost 5
14 Magic 18 52 .257 37.5 8-34 2-9 10-26 8-26 Lost 6
15 Bobcats 16 54 .229 39.5 13-28 5-9 10-25 6-29 Lost 2

--

14 POINTS a hope for a couple more if Bobcats exceed the Magic or Brooklyn drops.

Jballer

04-03-2013, 04:19 PM

Home stretch... back end of the schedule hurting the Raptors.

Next year fans - next year... :cheers:

W

Jballer

04-15-2013, 12:04 PM

Playoffs locked and loaded. Minor changes possible....count your socres

Official Rules:
- 2 points for each correct team in the exact spot
- 16 bonus points for all 8 playoff teams in in exact order.
- 10 bonus points for all 8 playoff teams in any order.
- 4 bonus points for 6 playoff teams in any order

W L Pct GB Conf Div Home Road Streak

1Heat 64 16 .800 0.0 39-11 14-1 36-4 28-12 Won 6

2Knicks 53 27 .663 11.0 36-14 10-6 30-10 23-17 Won 2

3Pacers 49 31 .613 15.0 31-19 13-3 30-10 19-21 Lost 2

4 Nets 47 33 .588 17.0 34-16 11-5 24-15 23-18 Lost 1

5 Hawks 44 36 .550 20.0 29-21 11-5 25-15 19-21 Won 2

6 Bulls 43 37 .538 21.0 32-18 9-7 23-17 20-20 Lost 2

7 Celtics 41 39 .513 23.0 27-23 7-8 27-13 14-26 Won 1

8 Bucks 37 43 .463 27.0 24-28 7-9 21-19 16-24 Lost 4

9 76ers 33 47 .413 31.0 21-29 7-9 23-18 10-29 Won 2

10 Raptors 32 48 .400 32.0 20-30 4-11 20-20 12-28 Won 3

11 Wizards 29 51 .363 35.0 15-35 5-11 22-19 7-32 Lost 4

12 Pistons 28 52 .350 36.0 24-26 8-8 17-23 11-29 Won 3

13 Cavaliers 24 56 .300 40.0 18-32 3-13 14-26 10-30 Lost 4

14 Magic 20 60 .250 44.0 10-40 3-12 12-28 8-32 Lost 1

15 Bobcats 19 61 .238 45.0 16-34 6-10 13-26 6-35 Won 1