Which teams match up best with this new Lakers squad?

[ncrizzle]

In no particular order. Im mostly focusing on who matches up best against Howard ala frontcourts.
Thunder- Youth. Durant, Harden and Westbrook are really the only ppl that need to score. Perkins, Ibaka and Sefolosha should be able to contain everyone except howard.
Heat- Champions, enough said
Grizzlies - Their front court of Gay/Zbo/Randolph/Gasol is among the best. Have one of (if not ) the best perimeter defender in Tony Allen on Kobe forcing him into even worse shot selection. Bayless as back up PG with Darell Arthur and MO Spegiths being the bigs off the bench, we will sneak up on yall
Clippers- Chris Paul can destroy Nash. Much stronger bench. If Jordan can develop a better offensive game and Griffin develops a shot, they are dangerous. Odom should be on a vendetta when he faces his old team.
Warriors- If Bogut is Healthy , him and Lee could give Gasol and Howard fits. The young trio of Curry, Thompson, and Barnes could prove to put up a lot of points.
Knicks- It all depends on if Melo and Amare can mesh.
Jazz- Great depth at 4 and 5. I think Favors is gonna emerge as a star soon
Celtics- Im not sure about them matching up well, but they are extremely deep and still have garnett and pierce

[AirTupac]

Lol at everyone other than Heat and OKC

[EnoughSaid]

Well the Lakers are only the third best team in the league, so I mean it's not like there is no one out there that can beat them.

[ncrizzle]

Lol at everyone other than Heat and OKC

I didnt say any of these teams are better. Just talking about who can give them the most problems.

[kennethgriffin]

92 dream team


probably the only one

[Freedom Kid7]

I think San Antonio will cause certain issues. Sure, they're old, but they're rotations are great, they have depth at all positions, have a good bench and with the good defense they have with Leonard, Duncan and some of the other guys along with their killer three point shooting, they have a chance.

Granted, they have flaws but I think they match up the best due to the incredible depth.

[kennethgriffin]

Well the Lakers are only the third best team in the league, so I mean it's not like there is no one out there that can beat them.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

denial is a wonderful thing

[DuMa]

Philly lol

[scm5]

I think the only team that actually matches up against the Lakers is OKC.

Nash and WB - Both Top 6 PG's.

Kobe and Harden - Both Top 5 SG's.

Metta and Durant - Durant owns Metta, but Metta will make him work.

Gasol and Ibaka - Gasol is better, but Ibaka adds solid D.

Dwight and Perk - Dwight is much better, but Perk will make him work.

[bmulls]

OKC matches up very well with LA.

Westbrook is going to massacre Steve Nash and they have the shooters to space the floor.

On the other end, Ibaka can guard Pau and Perkins can at least body up Dwight.

[Rubio2Gasol]

Denver.

[Rubio2Gasol]

Well the Lakers are only the third best team in the league, so I mean it's not like there is no one out there that can beat them.

4th possibly 5th.

Boston and maybe San Antonio are still better

[Godzuki]

nobody's big enough with the guard talent the lakers have. so nobody matches up well with them, altho they'll still probably lose with kobe taking 20+ shots and them still living and dying by him....its going to be interesting to see nash mesh with kobe.

[Raz]

[FONT=Arial Black]Thunder- [FONT=Times New Roman]Youth. Durant, Harden and Westbrook are really the only ppl that need to score. Perkins, Ibaka and Sefolosha should be able to contain everyone except howard. They need to get rid of Perk.



Um, Perkins is one of the best Dwightfenders in the league. He frustrates the crap out of him. :facepalm

[spree43]

Chicago

[dyna]

OKC

[ncrizzle]

ruh roh. Jodie Meeks?:confusedshrug:

[swi7ch]

Westbrook (best 1v1 defender on Team USA right now) can guard Nash.

Sefoloshas can guard Kobe.

Ibaka can guard Pau.

Perkins is the D12-stopper.


I'm not even talking about Harden yet.

OKC in 6.

[ncrizzle]

Um, Perkins is one of the best Dwightfenders in the league. He frustrates the crap out of him. :facepalm

I had no idea Perkins defended Dwight that well. Now that i think of it, with dwights limited arsenal on offense, Perkins should guard him well

[qrich]

Also have to consider how the teams rotations are and how patient they are on the defensive end of the ball, though this is a good thread. :rockon:

[ZeN]

No one has a single real clue of how this new maker team will actually function :oldlol:

[ncrizzle]

Also have to consider how the teams rotations are and how patient they are on the defensive end of the ball, though this is a good thread. :rockon:


I think the lakers will have no choice but to be patient because they are so old (dwight excluded). Im interested to see what Nash's minutes are going to be like. IM thinking he will be the first starter to the bench, Blake will come in, then 5 minutes later the rest of the bench comes in. Nash will probably come back in the game to run the second unit a few minutes until the starters check back in. It would just be stupid to not have Nash help the bench players. Kobe and him both need the ball, so you might as well use Nash efficiently . People saying the lakers will win 65+ games are crazy. Nash's PT need to be spread out logically. That is if they want him to be ready 100% for the playoffs.

[ncrizzle]

No one has a single real clue of how this new maker team will actually function :oldlol:

But But but, look at them on pp pp pp paper......:(

[qrich]

I think the lakers will have no choice but to be patient because they are so old (dwight excluded). Im interested to see what Nash's minutes are going to be like. IM thinking he will be the first starter to the bench, Blake will come in, then 5 minutes later the rest of the bench comes in. Nash will probably come back in the game to run the second unit a few minutes until the starters check back in. It would just be stupid to not have Nash help the bench players. Kobe and him both need the ball, so you might as well use Nash efficiently . People saying the lakers will win 65+ games are crazy. Nash's PT need to be spread out logically. That is if they want him to be ready 100% for the playoffs.

I meant how patient teams are against the Lakers on D.

[DaSeba5]

No one has a single real clue of how this new maker team will actually function :oldlol:

People just look at the names and assume nobody stands a chance.

People said the same thing about the Heat and it took them a while to click. I know LA fits better, but that's not the point.

[ZeN]

No one has a single real clue of how this new maker team will actually function :oldlol:
F*cking hate you autocorrect!

[ncrizzle]

I meant how patient teams are against the Lakers on D.

:facepalm Whoops.

In that case, we just cant know until we see them. Either Nash or Kobe are going to be forced into playing in a way we havent seen before, and my guess is its going to be kobe.

I would pressure the ball whenever it is not in Nashs hands. Im trying to keep the lakers on the perimeter as much as i can. Even though Pau can stretch the floor and hit those jumpers, i would much rather them not get the ball near the basket

[ZenMaster]

I think the lakers will have no choice but to be patient because they are so old (dwight excluded). Im interested to see what Nash's minutes are going to be like. IM thinking he will be the first starter to the bench, Blake will come in, then 5 minutes later the rest of the bench comes in. Nash will probably come back in the game to run the second unit a few minutes until the starters check back in. It would just be stupid to not have Nash help the bench players. Kobe and him both need the ball, so you might as well use Nash efficiently . People saying the lakers will win 65+ games are crazy. Nash's PT need to be spread out logically. That is if they want him to be ready 100% for the playoffs.

All the minutes need to be spread out logically.

We got Nash, Kobe, Howard and Pau, without injury or big foul trouble you should be able to make rotations so you have 2 of the 4 on the court for most of the game. With 2 of them on the court you can always get players from the bench who makes a good lineup with these two.

In terms of who has the ball more and all that bla bla people want to focus on it shouldn't be that big of a deal. The team whould find whatever works against any given team, there isn't a team in the NBA who wont have match up problems with them so just go to the strengths on any given night.

OKC matches up somwhat if they don't have to give Perkins up in amnesty, but even so you can bet they'll have Perkins run through ball screen after ball screen with both Nash and Kobe as ball handlers and he won't like that one bit.

[Clippersfan86]

All the minutes need to be spread out logically.

We got Nash, Kobe, Howard and Pau, without injury or big foul trouble you should be able to make rotations so you have 2 of the 4 on the court for most of the game. With 2 of them on the court you can always get players from the bench who makes a good lineup with these two.

In terms of who has the ball more and all that bla bla people want to focus on it shouldn't be that big of a deal. The team whould find whatever works against any given team, there isn't a team in the NBA who wont have match up problems with them so just go to the strengths on any given night.

OKC matches up somwhat if they don't have to give Perkins up in amnesty, but even so you can bet they'll have Perkins run through ball screen after ball screen with both Nash and Kobe as ball handlers and he won't like that one bit.

You forgot that Mike Brown is your coach apparently. I would never make such a comment about Vinny....

[ZenMaster]

You forgot that Mike Brown is your coach apparently. I would never make such a comment about Vinny....

You don't think he can handle setting up a rotation that keeps 2 out of 4 players on the court for most of the game?

They did the same thing last year with Drew, Pau and Kobe, they didn't all sit at the same time very often.

[chazzy]

You don't think he can handle setting up a rotation that keeps 2 out of 4 players on the court for most of the game?

They did the same thing last year with Drew, Pau and Kobe, they didn't all sit at the same time very often.
Yeah, either Pau or Dwight will be on the floor at all times alongside each other or Hill/Jamison. Lots of potential combinations and lineups with Nash or Kobe paired up with one of the big men.

I want to see how this lineup would do

Nash
Meeks
Kobe
Jamison
Dwight

[qrich]

:facepalm Whoops.

In that case, we just cant know until we see them. Either Nash or Kobe are going to be forced into playing in a way we havent seen before, and my guess is its going to be kobe.

I would pressure the ball whenever it is not in Nashs hands. Im trying to keep the lakers on the perimeter as much as i can. Even though Pau can stretch the floor and hit those jumpers, i would much rather them not get the ball near the basket

Expecting a lot of zone to be ran against them. I mean, no one in the starting unit minus the back-court is scary from the arc and with good rotations, you'd be able to get a hand up in their face.

[jdm_dc_fan]

I know Boston isn't the first team to come to mind but we took the champs to game 7 with half the team on crutches. :lol

It's no doubt Boston is building a team to beat Miami. But now you throw this big 4 at us.:facepalm I still have faith that doc and ainge will make the right moves.

1. We have two 7 footer at 260 lbs one of them being defensive minded to give D12 fits like Perk used to :lol .

2. Paul Pierce at his age still scores anywhere he chooses.

3. Kevin Garnett was the best big in the entire playoffs last season.

4. Rajon Rondo averaged a triple double in the 2009 post season when they played d12 and the magic for the ECF. And still continues to be a triple double machine.

5. Brandon Bass Stolen from the Magic :roll: proved that given minutes he can be a productive player off the bench or starting. And was our best offensive rebounder. Very stout down low too.

6. Avery Bradley has finally found his spot and looks comfortable offensively in the starting line up. His defense is fuKcing annoying unless your on his team. A bit under sized for a SG but makes up for it with his athleticism. (ask Wade) :oldlol:

7. Jeff Green is coming back and he says he feels better than before. He is a 6' 9'' player that can handle the ball, good free throe shooter that can also stretch the floor and can shoot the 3. He started to look like he did on OKC when he came to Boston but shortly after was benched to get surgery.

8. Jason Terry What more should I say besides look at the 2010-2011 Finals. :applause:

9. Courtney Lee a 40% 3 point shooter, great defender (led the team in steals in NJ) good free throw shooter. And also has played the SF position.

10. Jared Sullinger is an un-proven big in the NBA. But in this day and age any big is good. 6' 9'' and 260lbs being mentored by KG? Yes please.

Boston is better than last year even with ray out. I have faith that we will be in the ECF this up coming season and just maybe get to see another Boston vs. Lakers finals. :bowdown:

[BlackVVaves]

Um, Perkins is one of the best Dwightfenders in the league. He frustrates the crap out of him. :facepalm

Yes. One on one.

Because Dwight has never had a point guard that can execute pick and roll flawlessly or consistently.

Ever seen Perkins try and defend the pick and roll?

There is a reason why Brooks was forced to sit him for much of the Spurs and Miami series. Both teams that execute pick and roll to a tee, as well as play effective small ball.

For that reason, I'm not sure why the "OKC got this - Dwight is nothing! Perk will own him ahahaha!" talk persists. It's as if some people don't understand that basketball is such an intricate game of chess.

[All Net]

Well the Lakers are only the third best team in the league, so I mean it's not like there is no one out there that can beat them.

Guess we will see about that.

[BlackVVaves]

Westbrook (best 1v1 defender on Team USA right now) can guard Nash.

Sefoloshas can guard Kobe.

Ibaka can guard Pau.

Perkins is the D12-stopper.


I'm not even talking about Harden yet.

OKC in 6.

Posts like this. As if basketball comes down to simple 1 on 1 matchups.

In the NBA Finals, did Chalmers win his overall head to head match-up with Westbrook? No. And yet, it was his timely barrage of threes in Miami that helped catapult them to NBA champions.

[KingBeasley08]

OKC and Miami

[NugzFan]

very random note but why is it that boston fans these days, have to always defend their team in every thread? no matter the topic, a celt fan has to jump in and say "what about boston!?"

[Rubio2Gasol]

Perhaps because they are being underrated and overlooked :confusedshrug:

People are pigeon holing Miami into finals already despite them needing ref help to get past Boston in 7 games.

[CTulc]

very random note but why is it that boston fans these days, have to always defend their team in every thread? no matter the topic, a celt fan has to jump in and say "what about boston!?"

Because what they have to say is relevant to the topic and they're being underrated by many? If we have to sit through the hell of everyone going apesh*t over the Lakers, we have the right to post one comment in a topic concerning Boston. They are relevant and one of the top 4 title contenders in the league.

[alenleomessi]

jeremy lin will rape kobe once again

[NugzFan]

Because what they have to say is relevant to the topic and they're being underrated by many? If we have to sit through the hell of everyone going apesh*t over the Lakers, we have the right to post one comment in a topic concerning Boston. They are relevant and one of the top 4 title contenders in the league.

one comment? sure.

but in every thread? no matter the topic, a celtic fan has to whine it seems.

[BankShot]

The Grizzlies have the requisite size and perimeter defense to match up

[CTulc]

one comment? sure.

but in every thread? no matter the topic, a celtic fan has to whine it seems.

Why single out Boston fans though?

Sure they comment in every thread. But pretty much every team is discussed in every thread. Boston fans usually have they're head on straight and we don't have stans.

I'm sorry we don't try to troll the living hell out of forums like Kobe and Lebron stans do.

[NugzFan]

Why single out Boston fans though?

Sure they comment in every thread. But pretty much every team is discussed in every thread. Boston fans usually have they're head on straight and we don't have stans.

I'm sorry we don't try to troll the living hell out of forums like Kobe and Lebron stans do.

celtic fans have just been doing it a lot lately. i dont know why but the last week, no matter the topic celtic fans want apart of it.

[NumberSix]

Lakers are winning the west. Done deal.

[gasolina]

Okc is in very tough spot. They need to keep ibaka and perkins to match up with the lakers, grizzlies, clippers. If they ever come out of the west, they'll have to deal w/ Lebron at the 4, which they still dont have an answer for

[TheAesirsFinest]

Yes. One on one.

Because Dwight has never had a point guard that can execute pick and roll flawlessly or consistently.

Ever seen Perkins try and defend the pick and roll?

There is a reason why Brooks was forced to sit him for much of the Spurs and Miami series. Both teams that execute pick and roll to a tee, as well as play effective small ball.

For that reason, I'm not sure why the "OKC got this - Dwight is nothing! Perk will own him ahahaha!" talk persists. It's as if some people don't understand that basketball is such an intricate game of chess.

Bingo. I cringe whenever I see someone try to claim that one team will beat another by comparing their starters head to head.

Dwight's an actual pick and ROLLer too. He's one of the better roll bigs in the NBA, and Perkins' won't be able to keep up.

[LikeABosh]

Titles chances.

Heat. 37%

Lakers. 31%

Thunder. 30

Rest of the league. 2%

[CTulc]

Titles chances.

Heat. 37%

Lakers. 31%

Thunder. 30

Rest of the league. 2%

God help you.:facepalm

[LikeABosh]

God help you.:facepalm
Oh, what? Is this the Celtics 3rd last shot at a title? They've been done since 10'

[CTulc]

Oh, what? Is this the Celtics 3rd last shot at a title? They've been done since 10'

Didn't say anything like that, but since you brought it up, who's to say they don't have another shot at it? Is it so out of the question with their new depth and emergence of Rondo and Bradley?

[tpols]

http://lockerroomcancer.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/monstar8.jpg


These guys might be able to give them a run at their money

[LikeABosh]

Didn't say anything like that, but since you brought it up, who's to say they don't have another shot at it? Is it so out of the question with their new depth and emergence of Rondo and Bradley?
Yea, the "emergence" of Rondo and Bradley has Lebron, D Wade, Ray Allen, Nash, Kobe, Durant and Westbrook shaking in their boots. :oldlol:

[CTulc]

Yea, the "emergence" of Rondo and Bradley has Lebron, D Wade, Ray Allen, Nash, Kobe, Durant and Westbrook shaking in their boots. :oldlol:

Way to take what I said out of context. Rondo was the third best player in the playoffs and I fully expect him to transfer that into this year.

With the extra depth, veteran skill, and monstrous defensive presence, I definitely expect the heat to be shaking in their boots. Just remember who wanted to avoid the celtics in the playoffs the last few years :cheers:

[RRR3]

Way to take what I said out of context. Rondo was the third best player in the playoffs and I fully expect him to transfer that into this year.

With the extra depth, veteran skill, and monstrous defensive presence, I definitely expect the heat to be shaking in their boots. Just remember who wanted to avoid the celtics in the playoffs the last few years :cheers:
Miami only fears the Celtics if one of the big 3 is hurt.

[CTulc]

Miami only fears the Celtics if one of the big 3 is hurt.

They feared Boston when their whole bench was hurt!:facepalm

But this is getting off topic, I've had enough of these arguments to know this won't be resolved.

[NotYetGreat]

No one has a single real clue of how this new maker team will actually function :oldlol:

That's true. So many rumors out there on what they plan on doing, but it all just seems so fuzzy.

[LikeABosh]

Way to take what I said out of context. Rondo was the third best player in the playoffs and I fully expect him to transfer that into this year.

With the extra depth, veteran skill, and monstrous defensive presence, I definitely expect the heat to be shaking in their boots. Just remember who wanted to avoid the celtics in the playoffs the last few years :cheers:
Just remember who beat Boston the past 2 seasons and is the defending champs :cheers:

[jdm_dc_fan]

Just remember who beat Boston the past 2 seasons and is the defending champs :cheers:
What Miami did is built after what boston did with their big three.....the first season.

[jdm_dc_fan]

very random note but why is it that boston fans these days, have to always defend their team in every thread? no matter the topic, a celt fan has to jump in and say "what about boston!?"
It's a forum. Don't let us get to you. Best I can tell you is at least it's not Hawks fan's. :yaohappy:

[comerb]

OKC matches up extremely well.

They have the bigs to manage Pau and Dwight.

Westbrook is going to punish the hell out of Nash, and if that little pull-up mid-range jumper is dropping... Also, Dwight could be seeing foul trouble pretty quickly against OKC.

OKC is a perimeter team, and LA has a terrible perimeter defense.

They have the speed to negate any sort of fast break play from LA, while being able to wear down the older team with their own. LA is as deep as a puddle and are definitely subject to wear and tear from playing an up paced younger team.

LA doesn't really have anyone capable of guarding Durant (who does?)

OKC is going to have a massive chip on their shoulder from being knocked off their place as the favorites after winning the conference last year. You can be sure they are going to take it to the Lakers.

[OmniStrife]

Nash / Dragic
Kobe / Dudley
MWP / Beas
Gasol / Scola
Howard / Gortat

Not implying we're anywhere close to being as good as this insane Lakers team...
just saying the games will be pretty entertaining imo.

[ncrizzle]

celtics fans in a lakers thread:confusedshrug:

[MJ(Mean John)]

Nash / Dragic
Kobe / Dudley
MWP / Beas
Gasol / Scola
Howard / Gortat

Not implying we're anywhere close to being as good as this insane Lakers team...
just saying the games will be pretty entertaining imo.


Lol. You guys are like the generic brand of us.

Lakers are the household brand; like coke.
Suns are the cheaper generic brand; like Shasta.

The replacement not as bad, but when put together, clearly Theres a gap.

[Hittin_Shots]

celtics fans in a lakers thread:confusedshrug:

A lakers thread posing a question of other teams, some people seem retarded these days.

[AK47DR91]

East:
Miami should be equally matched
Sixers and Pacers might give them a tough series but it doesn't matter since neither Philly or Indy will win the East

LOL @ Knicks having a chance to get out off of the 1st Round

West:
Thunder should be equally matched
Grizzlies, Clippers, Spurs, Jazz and Mavs should give them a tough series

[Hittin_Shots]

Nash / Dragic
Kobe / Dudley
MWP / Beas
Gasol / Scola
Howard / Gortat

Not implying we're anywhere close to being as good as this insane Lakers team...
just saying the games will be pretty entertaining imo.

Two seasons ago dragic nash's backup and gortat Howard's

[Raz]

I had no idea Perkins defended Dwight that well. Now that i think of it, with dwights limited arsenal on offense, Perkins should guard him well

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=howardw01&p2=perkike01

[KOBE143]

East All-Stars Team maybe :confusedshrug:

[NugzFan]

Nash / Dragic
Kobe / Dudley
MWP / Beas
Gasol / Scola
Howard / Gortat

Not implying we're anywhere close to being as good as this insane Lakers team...
just saying the games will be pretty entertaining imo.

i dont get it - you just listed the starting lineups. :confusedshrug:

every team will have a starting 5. how does this answer the question at hand?

[NugzFan]

celtics fans in a lakers thread:confusedshrug:

they are in every thread these days.

[All Net]

Nash / Dragic
Kobe / Dudley
MWP / Beas
Gasol / Scola
Howard / Gortat

Not implying we're anywhere close to being as good as this insane Lakers team...
just saying the games will be pretty entertaining imo.

Matchups are always tough vs suns no matter who is playing.

[Locked_Up_Tonight]

Mavs should be able to matchup with the Lakers alright.

Kaman/Brand bodying up Howard
Dirk against Gasol
Marion against MWP and Jamison
Mayo/Dantay Jones against Kobe
Collison/Mayo against Nash

[ncrizzle]

i was being sarcastic celtics fans. I fully expect the opposing team to be in a lakers or celtics thread.

[JohnnySic]

very random note but why is it that boston fans these days, have to always defend their team in every thread? no matter the topic, a celt fan has to jump in and say "what about boston!?"
Uhm, maybe its because the Celtics have a young, athletic, deep, and versatile team that matches up well with anyone. Maybe that's why we rep our team.

[jjayfive]

OKC, match up pretty well because they have the bigs...

[ncrizzle]

It's that rivalry bro. Only REAL Lakers/Celtics fans get it :rockon:

:facepalm look up and see my last post

[Fudge]

David Lee is gonna give Gasol or Howard fits? What? David ****ing Lee? :rolleyes:

[ncrizzle]

OKC, match up pretty well because they have the bigs...

But their bigs arent big threats on offense. Perk and Ibaka are two of the best big defenders, but Perkins isnt even scoring on Nash

[ncrizzle]

David Lee is gonna give Gasol or Howard fits? What? David ****ing Lee? :rolleyes:

He averaged 20/10 last year. And now he is pairing up with Bogut.

[ncrizzle]

Ok....so you want to try and troll....huh? My bad. Good luck with all that:rolleyes:

so trolling = anything on the intrawebz that isnt %100 serious? Its called a sense of humor. If i was gonna troll, i would try to argue that the Bobcats and Hornets have a more historical rivalry that trumps lakers/celtics

[ncrizzle]

Riiiiiiight:rolleyes:

I simply made a statement of fact, from a lifelong Laker point of view, responding to your post, and you respond with something stupid, that had nothing to do with anything. Uh huh:sleeping

sorry chap, wasnt trying to troll. But i will be sure to watch what i post for the sensitive folk in the future

[ncrizzle]

The only person here catching feelings, is obviously, you(ncrizzle), ergo the stupid post that had nothing to do with anything. While I was the one making a statement of fact. Yeah....I'd really watch that if I were you:hammerhead:

omg. a post that had nothing to do with anything? Sticky this thread immediately!!!

[jjayfive]

But their bigs arent big threats on offense. Perk and Ibaka are two of the best big defenders, but Perkins isnt even scoring on Nash

true.. but its the combination of elite wing men and size down low... it's the entire team... the griz are also up there...

[ncrizzle]

true.. but its the combination of elite wing men and size down low... it's the entire team... the griz are also up there...

i dont even know why i said that. perk and ibaka do exactly what they are supposed to do. They have 3 guys who can score 90 by themselves