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Nash
08-10-2012, 05:56 PM
Chris Mannix ‏@ChrisMannixSI

Kobe on Dwight: "The team is his. It should be his."

:lebronamazed:

imnew09
08-10-2012, 05:57 PM
Chris Mannix ‏@ChrisMannixSI

Kobe on Dwight: "The team is his. It should be his."

:lebronamazed:


HumbleBE

kentatm
08-10-2012, 05:57 PM
:roll:

suuuuuuuuure.

bluechox2
08-10-2012, 05:57 PM
Chris Mannix ‏@ChrisMannixSI

Kobe on Dwight: "The team is his. It should be his."

:lebronamazed:
is kobe trying to seduce him too?

BrickingStar
08-10-2012, 05:57 PM
Holy Shiiiiiiieeetttttt

DuMa
08-10-2012, 05:57 PM
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bluechox2
08-10-2012, 05:58 PM
yourTeamTillYouSignExtensionBe

TMacMagic
08-10-2012, 05:59 PM
is kobe trying to seduce him too?

GoesbothwaysBE

Indian guy
08-10-2012, 05:59 PM
:oldlol:

He can't even take a backseat on this Olympic team. Doing it in LA? :kobe:

Rockets(T-mac)
08-10-2012, 06:00 PM
:roll: at the kobe names, by far the best part of the kobe fans on this board.

And I'll believe it when I see kobe say it himself.

Swaggin916
08-10-2012, 06:00 PM
Bullshitbe

lakers_forever
08-10-2012, 06:00 PM
If Kobe defers to Howard: Kobe is a role player now. His ring (if he wins) does not mean anything. He should just retire.

If Kobe does not defer to Howard: Such a ballhog. Dude has the best center in the league and still want to shoot 30 times a game.

BrickingStar
08-10-2012, 06:00 PM
Complete opposite of MJ he's bending over to dwight :roll: :roll: :applause:

Nash
08-10-2012, 06:00 PM
I don't want to live in a world where Kobe takes a back seat.

bluechox2
08-10-2012, 06:01 PM
:oldlol:

He can't even take a backseat on this Olympic team. Doing it in LA? :kobe:
CallShotgunBE

christian1923
08-10-2012, 06:01 PM
what a class act:applause:

swag2011
08-10-2012, 06:02 PM
oh hell naw!

bluechox2
08-10-2012, 06:02 PM
Complete opposite of MJ he's bending over to dwight :roll: :roll: :applause:
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wang4three
08-10-2012, 06:04 PM
It's not what you say that defines you, it's what you do.

And 1
08-10-2012, 06:04 PM
Now we wait to see if he can (hopefully) back it up. :applause:


If Kobe defers to Howard: Kobe is a role player now. His ring (if he wins) does not mean anything. He should just retire.

If Kobe does not defer to Howard: Such a ballhog. Dude has the best center in the league and still want to shoot 30 times a game.

Sadly, this.

TheeBeast
08-10-2012, 06:05 PM
Mamba is showing love for Dwight. Its time to pass the torch and there's probably no one else at this point better to give it to than him. :cheers:

EDIT: With the correction that Kobe did not say its Dwight's team now (but when he retires), my comment still stands for future reference.

KobesFinger
08-10-2012, 06:05 PM
GoesbothwaysBE

KoBi? :confusedshrug:

Faptastrophe
08-10-2012, 06:06 PM
That can't be right. Kobe's not that soft. NO. JUST NO!

still gonna shoot 30 shots per game.

TMacMagic
08-10-2012, 06:06 PM
Mamba is showing love for Dwight. Its time to pass the torch and there's probably no one else at this point better to give it to than him. :cheers:

:roll: :roll: :roll:

TheeBeast
08-10-2012, 06:07 PM
Now we wait to see if he can (hopefully) back it up. :applause:



Sadly, this.

It doesn't work like that son. Kobe is still a functioning part of this monster team, there's no way it succeeds without him or Dwight.

AlphaWolf24
08-10-2012, 06:08 PM
It's not what you say that defines you, it's what you do.


backtobiengrobinBE

magictricked
08-10-2012, 06:08 PM
The actual quote is something like "I'll play 2-3 more years and the team is his, which is as it should be"

christian1923
08-10-2012, 06:08 PM
That can't be right. Kobe's not that soft. NO. JUST NO!

still gonna shoot 30 shots per game.

Cmon you dont actually believe this?

Its like when your dad tells you youre the man of the house when dad goes to work. But daddy can come home at anytime and show whos boss.:bowdown: :bowdown:

JM720
08-10-2012, 06:09 PM
Reporters reporting half truths.

Mike Bresnahan ‏@Mike_Bresnahan
Kobe: "I'll play 2-3 more years. Then the team is his. I'm excited b/c they have a player that can carry the franchise well after I'm gone."

:bowdown:

lakers_forever
08-10-2012, 06:09 PM
Kobe actual quote:

"I'll play 2-3 more years. Then the team is his. I'm excited b/c they have a player that can carry the franchise well after I'm gone."

https://twitter.com/Mike_Bresnahan

I'd like to see him deferring to Howard if that makes the Lakers stronger and champions.

kNIOKAS
08-10-2012, 06:09 PM
Chris Mannix ‏@ChrisMannixSI

Kobe on Dwight: "The team is his. It should be his."


http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc489/niokulis/24wh8qo.gif

bluechox2
08-10-2012, 06:10 PM
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And 1
08-10-2012, 06:11 PM
It doesn't work like that son. Kobe is still a functioning part of this monster team, there's no way it succeeds without him or Dwight.
What are you talking about? Sorry, just unclear what you're responding to. :cheers:
I agree with what you just said btw. :confusedshrug:

Faptastrophe
08-10-2012, 06:11 PM
Cmon you dont actually believe this?

Its like when your dad tells you youre the man of the house when dad goes to work. But daddy can come home at anytime and show whos boss.:bowdown: :bowdown:
I don't. Kobe wouldn't pass the torch to anyone. (you know.. because he just doesn't pass) He's gonna hog the ball, chuck shots and be THE man till his hands and legs fall of.

TheeBeast
08-10-2012, 06:12 PM
What are you talking about? Sorry, just unclear what you're responding to. :cheers:
I agree with what you just said btw. :confusedshrug:

Sorry my bad :oldlol:

DKLaker
08-10-2012, 06:13 PM
MoreRingsBE :rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

TMacMagic
08-10-2012, 06:16 PM
Kobe : The team is Dwight's. It should be his.

*Season starts*

Kobe : SIKE!

*Keeps chucking 40 shots per game*

konex
08-10-2012, 06:23 PM
Mike Bresnahan ‏@Mike_Bresnahan
Kobe: "I'll play 2-3 more years. Then the team is his. I'm excited b/c they have a player that can carry the franchise well after I'm gone."

:no:

ImmortalD24
08-10-2012, 06:24 PM
Mike Bresnahan ‏@Mike_Bresnahan
Kobe: "I'll play 2-3 more years. Then the team is his. I'm excited b/c they have a player that can carry the franchise well after I'm gone.":no:Not surprised that an SI hack would misquote Kobe.

Nash
08-10-2012, 06:28 PM
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ImmortalD24
08-10-2012, 06:32 PM
Chris Mannix ‏@ChrisMannixSI
Upon closer listen (lousy audio in the scrum) KB says, "I'll play 2-3 more years. And then the team is his (continue original quote)
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Heavincent
08-10-2012, 06:36 PM
Why would Kobe defer to Howard on offense anyway? Kobe is still a far superior in terms of offense.

Ikill
08-10-2012, 06:44 PM
The whole "whos team is it" shit is so stupid what the **** does that mean.Dwight and Bynum are basically the same on offence they shoot the same number of shot attempts, play the same way, are really efficient. They also dont pass the ball, are turnover prone, and are complete blackhole on offence. The offence should not be built around Dwight the Laker offence got worse this year with Bynum getting more touches. Dwight should just play a Tyson Chandler role let Nash set him up and focus on making the Lakers the best defensive team in the NBA. Kobe should shoot less next year and give up some ball handling to Nash not Dwight. Kobe should take like 18-20 shots a game

bleedinpurpleTwo
08-10-2012, 06:49 PM
yourTeamTillYouSignExtensionBe
this.

Quickening
08-10-2012, 06:51 PM
Does Kobe even have a say in this? Dwight Howard if he stays fit next year will be comfortably the more effective player thus he becomes the man with or without Kobe blessing... Ala Lebron in Miami, but I can see Kobe having a bitch fit and bricking Lakers out of the playoffs.

WockaVodka
08-10-2012, 06:58 PM
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Jax
08-10-2012, 07:12 PM
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bleedinpurpleTwo
08-10-2012, 07:40 PM
Does Kobe even have a say in this? Dwight Howard if he stays fit next year will be comfortably the more effective player thus he becomes the man with or without Kobe blessing... Ala Lebron in Miami, but I can see Kobe having a bitch fit and bricking Lakers out of the playoffs.
you are wrong....on all counts.

DatAsh
08-10-2012, 07:45 PM
RolePlayerThatTakes25shotsBe

:oldlol: :oldlol:

Godzuki
08-10-2012, 07:49 PM
http://p.twimg.com/ApbrS8XCAAAFPNI.jpg:large


:oldlol:

Godzuki
08-10-2012, 07:51 PM
Kobe : The team is Dwight's. It should be his.

*Season starts*

Kobe : SIKE!

*Keeps chucking 40 shots per game*


yeah i remember kobe blowing smoke about Sessions, like he can finally play like a 2 now. few games later he's demanding the ball from Sess and phasing him out of the touches.

swi7ch
08-10-2012, 07:51 PM
The team is Buss'

Someone please telll Kobe this!

kobesabi
08-10-2012, 07:54 PM
Chris Mannix ‏@ChrisMannixSI

Kobe on Dwight: "The team is his. It should be his."

:lebronamazed:
Calm down guys...he probably meant in 2014 and onward since Kobe is pending to retire after 2013-2014 season.

bleedinpurpleTwo
08-10-2012, 08:04 PM
yeah i remember kobe blowing smoke about Sessions, like he can finally play like a 2 now. few games later he's demanding the ball from Sess and phasing him out of the touches.
SESSIONS!!

BMOGEFan
08-10-2012, 08:05 PM
yeah i remember kobe blowing smoke about Sessions, like he can finally play like a 2 now. few games later he's demanding the ball from Sess and phasing him out of the touches.

Do you watch the NBA?

sessions is a scrub. he got exposed in the playoffs.

LA_Showtime
08-10-2012, 09:04 PM
I doubt Kobe will ever publicly say Dwight's the most important player on the Lakers but everyone knows it. As long as Dwight is given his touches and Kobe doesn't have a 33% usage rate we should be good.

Godzuki
08-10-2012, 09:12 PM
Do you watch the NBA?

sessions is a scrub. he got exposed in the playoffs.

i don't care what anyone says. sessions has game.

DonDadda59
08-10-2012, 09:16 PM
backtobiengrobinBE

Someone photoshop Bean's face on this bich:

http://aipetcher.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/grayson3.jpg

Preemptivestrikebe making sure his severe decline will seem like a conscious effort.

RoundMoundOfReb
08-10-2012, 09:23 PM
That's the right mentality for Kobe IMO.

YAWN
08-10-2012, 09:25 PM
I doubt Kobe will ever publicly say Dwight's the most important player on the Lakers but everyone knows it. As long as Dwight is given his touches and Kobe doesn't have a 33% usage rate we should be good.

Bynum got as many shots up as Dwight did last year so I don't think there will be any drop in Dwights production. In fact his #s will go up cause most teams are gonna gameplan for Gasol ahead of Dwight on the offensive end.

Heavincent
08-10-2012, 09:27 PM
Preemptivestrikebe making sure his severe decline will seem like a conscious effort.

Severe decline? :oldlol: Sorry, but he's still an elite player, which is extremely impressive considering he's going into his 17th season. Vince Carter and T-mac has severely declined. Kobe has just declined a little bit but is still elite.

RRR3
08-10-2012, 09:28 PM
Severe decline? :oldlol: Sorry, but he's still an elite player, which is extremely impressive considering he's going into his 17th season. Vince Carter and T-mac has severely declined. Kobe has just declined a little bit but is still elite.
T-Mac is still a superstar to me







:(














:cry:

Heavincent
08-10-2012, 09:31 PM
T-Mac is still a superstar to me







:(














:cry:

Yeah it's a bummer seeing VC and T-Mac these days.

LA_Showtime
08-10-2012, 09:34 PM
Dwight is going to be next to unstoppable on the Lakers. Kobe and Gasol will open up the floor for him, and Howard has never played alongside a true point guard, let alone arguably the best pure point guard in the league. I don't think we'll be as dominant as people think right now, mainly because of our age, but this is going to be a fun season.

lilgodfather1
08-10-2012, 09:40 PM
If the Lakers win the NBA title this will be the 5th time that he was arguably the second best player on the team. Top 10 all time as a sidekick lol. I'm not even trying to hate here as I like Kobe, but at least 4 of his six NBA titles would be as the sidekick. I would think that should knock him down on the all time list, not bump him up.

Jacks3
08-10-2012, 09:43 PM
Agreed. Getting that 6th, 7th, and maybe 8th ring as a still elite player will definitely hurt his legacy.

hawkfan
08-10-2012, 09:44 PM
Dwight will be sitting on the bench during the fourth quarter, since every team will go to hack a Dwight.

Makes more sense than letting Kobe, Pau, Nash score instead.

Kendrick Perkins doesn't need to worry about getting traded now.

Ne 1
08-10-2012, 09:46 PM
If the Lakers win the NBA title this will be the 5th time that he was arguably the second best player on the team. Top 10 all time as a sidekick lol. I'm not even trying to hate here as I like Kobe, but at least 4 of his six NBA titles would be as the sidekick. I would think that should knock him down on the all time list, not bump him up.
:roll:

Heavincent
08-10-2012, 09:48 PM
If the Lakers win the NBA title this will be the 5th time that he was arguably the second best player on the team. Top 10 all time as a sidekick lol. I'm not even trying to hate here as I like Kobe, but at least 4 of his six NBA titles would be as the sidekick. I would think that should knock him down on the all time list, not bump him up.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

What the **** kind of retarded logic is that? Should Kobe try to lose then so his legacy isn't damaged? I don't get it :oldlol:

Jacks3
08-10-2012, 09:49 PM
lmao. Some of the things these people say. :oldlol:

MJ(Mean John)
08-10-2012, 09:57 PM
Can Someone post a link of the dwight impersonating kb?

NumberSix
08-10-2012, 09:59 PM
SidekickBe....... again. lol

Deuce Bigalow
08-10-2012, 10:00 PM
If the Lakers win the NBA title this will be the 5th time that he was arguably the second best player on the team. Top 10 all time as a sidekick lol. I'm not even trying to hate here as I like Kobe, but at least 4 of his six NBA titles would be as the sidekick. I would think that should knock him down on the all time list, not bump him up.
He already has 2 rings as the man. His top 10 all-time legacy has already been established.

Heavincent
08-10-2012, 10:01 PM
SidekickBe....... again. lol

NumberSix

Jacks3
08-10-2012, 10:02 PM
He already has 2 rings as the man. His top 10 all-time legacy has already been established.
Exactly.:pimp:

Deuce Bigalow
08-10-2012, 10:03 PM
I'm a pretty big queer I must admit. I absolutely love it when Lebron gives it to me up the ass.
:biggums:

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
08-10-2012, 10:04 PM
NumberSix

Why does it bug you and other (all) Kobe fans that he will sidekick his way to another ring? Everyone knows he's an all-time great; 5 rings, 2 finals mvps, a regular season mvp, etc. When healthy, Dwight is the best player on that team. Reality.

Ne 1
08-10-2012, 10:05 PM
He already has 2 rings as the man. His top 10 all-time legacy has already been established.
Yep. 2 other tings as a 1a/1b option as well. :cheers:

TMacMagic
08-10-2012, 10:05 PM
Yeah it's a bummer seeing VC and T-Mac these days.

Vince is still ballin, he started a lot of games last season. T-Mac is the one sitting on the bench getting bout 5 minutes a game, sadly.

Heavincent
08-10-2012, 10:05 PM
Why does it bug you that Kobe will sidekick his way to another ring? Everyone knows he's an all-time great, 5 rings, 2 finals mvps, a regular season mvp, etc. When healthy, Dwight is the best player on that team. Reality.

He was only a sidekick in 99-00. Sorry, but top 5 players in the league cannot be considered sidekicks.

LakersReign
08-10-2012, 10:06 PM
If the Lakers win the NBA title this will be the 5th time that he was arguably the second best player on the team. Top 10 all time as a sidekick lol. I'm not even trying to hate here as I like Kobe, but at least 4 of his six NBA titles would be as the sidekick. I would think that should knock him down on the all time list, not bump him up.

http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx150/cousin_e/OHDAMNLOL.gif

Heavincent
08-10-2012, 10:07 PM
Vince is still ballin, he started a lot of games last season. T-Mac is the one sitting on the bench getting bout 5 minutes a game, sadly.

VC is not "ballin" anymore. He is one of my favorite players of all time, but he is clearly a shell of his former self and not even remotely close to what he used to be.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
08-10-2012, 10:08 PM
He was only a sidekick in 99-00. Sorry, but top 5 players in the league cannot be considered sidekicks.

Sure they can. Wade deferred to Lebron, he was his sidekick. Same thing will happen with Dwight and Kobe. At this stage of Kobe's career, he's just not effective enough to be the centerpiece of a franchise.

Jacks3
08-10-2012, 10:09 PM
It's funny because Kobe is still a far better scorer, passer/play-maker, and closer than Dwight is. Also takes much better care of the ball.

It's gonna be a 1a/1b situation, just like the 01/02 Lakers.

Bitches so mad. :oldlol:

Vertical-24
08-10-2012, 10:10 PM
If Kobe defers to Howard: Kobe is a role player now. His ring (if he wins) does not mean anything. He should just retire.

If Kobe does not defer to Howard: Such a ballhog. Dude has the best center in the league and still want to shoot 30 times a game.

This.

Lose - Lose situation for Kobe. As always (same applies to LeBron).

TMacMagic
08-10-2012, 10:11 PM
VC is not "ballin" anymore. He is one of my favorite players of all time, but he is clearly a shell of his former self and not even remotely close to what he used to be.

Well, for his age yes he is ballin. Them knees might not be holding up well but he can still shoot. Regardless, he's a lot more consistent that T-Mac. At least he's averaging more than 5 points. :durantunimpressed:

Heavincent
08-10-2012, 10:11 PM
Sure they can. Wade deferred to Lebron, he was his sidekick. Same thing will happen with Dwight and Kobe. At this stage of Kobe's career, he's just not effective enough to be the centerpiece of a franchise.

Except Kobe isn't going to defer to Howard because he still far superior offensively. 10 seconds left in a close game. Who are they giving it to? Dwight Howard or Kobe? We all know the answer to that.

And lol at Kobe not being an effective centerpiece. He's still an elite, top 5 player in the league.

NumberSix
08-10-2012, 10:11 PM
Orlando... check
Superman... check
Lakers... check

Carry Kobe to a championship... Shaq identity theft complete.

Ne 1
08-10-2012, 10:12 PM
He was only a sidekick in 99-00. Sorry, but top 5 players in the league cannot be considered sidekicks.
Yeah, dude was dropping 30+ ppg against the Kings and Spurs in his 2001 championship run and even Shaq called him "the best player in the world right now". With his level of play back then the 2001 & 2002 titles can't just be written off as "second fiddle rings".

Deuce Bigalow
08-10-2012, 10:13 PM
Sure they can. Wade deferred to Lebron, he was his sidekick. Same thing will happen with Dwight and Kobe. At this stage of Kobe's career, he's just not effective enough to be the centerpiece of a franchise.
Well Kobe is going to lead the team in PPG, Dwight will lead in RPG and BPG. Kobe will be the man in the 4th quarters, Dwight will be the defensive anchor.

If the Lakers can win, this can be a legit "1A/1B" comparison

I'm not buying that Dwight is CLEARLY the better player or better BY FAR. But we will see.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
08-10-2012, 10:13 PM
Dwight is a better rebounder, defender and better scorer inside the paint. A more effective scorer easily. Steve Nash will be feeding him all day. Nothing wrong with that, just reality Kobe fans. :cheers:

Kobe being "top 5" is arguable at best. Another year after the Olympics, odds are he'll fall off.

General
08-10-2012, 10:14 PM
I doubt Kobe will ever publicly say Dwight's the most important player on the Lakers but everyone knows it. As long as Dwight is given his touches and Kobe doesn't have a 33% usage rate we should be good.
You really believe Dwight is the most important player? Kobe the 5 time champion with the championship experience and leadership skills still the best player on the team is not the most important? :facepalm

LakersReign
08-10-2012, 10:14 PM
This.

Lose - Lose situation for Kobe. As always (same applies to LeBron).

Lebron fans aka Lebronytes want to try to apply that ridiculous double standard ONLY to Kobe. Which is exactly why people who actually know something about basketball don't take them or their moronic double standard seriously

Deuce Bigalow
08-10-2012, 10:15 PM
Orlando... check
Superman... check
Lakers... check

Carry Kobe to a championship... Shaq identity theft complete.
Only on the internet will a guy who is the leading scorer on the team will get carried to a championship.

Heavincent
08-10-2012, 10:16 PM
Dwight is a better rebounder, defender and better scorer inside the paint. A more effective scorer easily. Steve Nash will be feeding him all day. Nothing wrong with that, just reality Kobe fans. :cheers:

Kobe being "top 5" is arguable at best. Another year after the Olympics, odds are he'll fall off.

No, it's pretty clear that Kobe is top 5. 6 at the absolute lowest.

And lol at Dwight Howard being a more effective scorer. That's non sense. Kobe is clearly better in that area.

Jacks3
08-10-2012, 10:17 PM
Dwight isn't even a better scorer than Bynum. lol @ him being better than a top 3 scorer in the league.

Damn retards.

Kobr
08-10-2012, 10:17 PM
If the Lakers win the NBA title this will be the 5th time that he was arguably the second best player on the team. Top 10 all time as a sidekick lol. I'm not even trying to hate here as I like Kobe, but at least 4 of his six NBA titles would be as the sidekick. I would think that should knock him down on the all time list, not bump him up.

The double standards people have with Kobe are ridiculous. If the Celtics were to win the 2013 championship, would Garnett's legacy be tainted for not being the best player on his team at age 36? Even if he himself put up a solid performance and contributed? What about Duncan and the Spurs? Or how about KAJ? Was Kareem's legacy diminished from his '87 and '88 titles? Even though he put up 19/7/2 in the playoffs at 40 with reduced minutes, he wasn't the best player on his team so his legacy was tainted, right? He'd be a guaranteed #1 GOAT spot if he hadn't won those last two titles next to Magic?

Ne 1
08-10-2012, 10:19 PM
Well Kobe is going to lead the team in PPG, Dwight will lead in RPG and BPG. Kobe will be the man in the 4th quarters, Dwight will be the defensive anchor.

If the Lakers can win, this can be a legit "1A/1B" comparison

I'm not buying that Dwight is CLEARLY the better player or better BY FAR. But we will see.
Why should Kobe be discredited for winning with Dwight?Nobody discredits Magic for winning with Kareem and vice versa. :confusedshrug:

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
08-10-2012, 10:19 PM
No, it's pretty clear that Kobe is top 5. 6 at the absolute lowest.

And lol at Dwight Howard being a more effective scorer. That's non sense. Kobe is clearly better in that area.

Howard isn't a more effective scorer? Last years playoffs he was averaging 27 a game at a 63% clip. Kobe averaged 27ppg this past season shooting 43% (30ppg at 44% shooting in the playoffs). Dwight isn't better, just far more effective. Not sure how this is even debatable.

Deuce Bigalow
08-10-2012, 10:22 PM
Why should Kobe be discredited for winning with Dwight?Nobody discredits Magic for winning with Kareem and vice versa. :confusedshrug:
I don't think people know that Kareem was arguably the THIRD OPTION on his last 2 Titles

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
08-10-2012, 10:23 PM
1A/1B? A sidekick? I could care less. You guys get so worked up over the idea of Kobe having to defer....in his 17th season. :oldlol:

If they make the finals, here's to hoping they crush Miami. :cheers:

Heavincent
08-10-2012, 10:24 PM
Howard isn't a more effective scorer? Last years playoffs he was averaging 27 a game at 63% clip. Kobe was averaging 27ppg this year in the regular season at 43% shooting (30ppg at 44% shooting in the playoffs). Dwight isn't better, just far more effective. Not sure how this is even debatable.

Yeah, because Atlanta's gameplan was to let Howard go off. It worked out pretty well for them too.

Howard averaged 21 points this past season on 57% shooting, but he also shot a pathetic 49% on free throws, so he's really not as efficient as people make him out to be. The guy takes over 10 free throws per game and doesn't even make half of them. You're telling me that's efficient? :oldlol: Kobe is a much more reliable scorer. He's a little less efficient, but so what? He's a perimeter player that had to carry the scoring load last year.

NumberSix
08-10-2012, 10:25 PM
Anyhow, looks like I have 2 new Dwight jerseys I need to buy.

DFish
08-10-2012, 10:27 PM
Howard isn't a more effective scorer? Last years playoffs he was averaging 27 a game at a 63% clip. Kobe averaged 27ppg this past season shooting 43% (30ppg at 44% shooting in the playoffs). Dwight isn't better, just far more effective. Not sure how this is even debatable.

Efficient vs effective. Learn the difference.

RRR3
08-10-2012, 10:28 PM
Efficient vs effective. Learn the difference.
megan fox

NumberSix
08-10-2012, 10:29 PM
megan fox
something in the slum went rum pa pum pum

Hands of Iron
08-10-2012, 10:30 PM
Why should Kobe be discredited for winning with Dwight?Nobody discredits Magic for winning with Kareem and vice versa. :confusedshrug:

Nor was it hardly even about that when they did it. ****ING WIN, Period. It's a Team Sport. All that sort of changed after Jordan left his mark. Now it's about being 'the man' and 'alpha dog', sidekicks and second bananas.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
08-10-2012, 10:34 PM
Efficient vs effective. Learn the difference.

Dwight is both.

SpecialQue
08-10-2012, 10:35 PM
Nor was it hardly even about that when they did it. ****ING WIN, Period. It's a Team Sport. All that sort of changed after Jordan left his mark. Now it's about being 'the man' and 'alpha dog', sidekicks and second bananas.

I was about to say this. Who gives a shit if Kobe's not the best player on the team? As long as it means more championships for my favorite team, I don't give a fvck.

NumberSix
08-10-2012, 10:37 PM
I was about to say this. Who gives a shit if Kobe's not the best player on the team? As long as it means more championships for my favorite team, I don't give a fvck.
Your problem is that you're a Lakers fan. There's only about 5 on ISH.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
08-10-2012, 10:37 PM
Nor was it hardly even about that when they did it. ****ING WIN, Period. It's a Team Sport. All that sort of changed after Jordan left his mark. Now it's about being 'the man' and 'alpha dog', sidekicks and second bananas.

That's what I'm saying. It doesn't MATTER, yet these clowns are in absolute FEAR Kobe won't be the best player on a championship contender. :oldlol:

tpols
08-10-2012, 10:44 PM
Motivationbe:bowdown:

Get on Dwight's good side then snake that FMVP:rockon:

tmacattack33
08-10-2012, 11:09 PM
Chris Mannix ‏@ChrisMannixSI

Kobe on Dwight: "The team is his. It should be his."

:lebronamazed:

So we are supposed to believe that the same guy who is taking away shots from Lebron, Durant, CP3, and Melo on Team USA only to put up ridiculously inefficient shots in an attempt to prove he still has it is going to give up the ball to Dwight?

Doubt it.

NumberSix
08-10-2012, 11:20 PM
So we are supposed to believe that the same guy who is taking away shots from Lebron, Durant, CP3, and Melo on Team USA only to put up ridiculously inefficient shots in an attempt to prove he still has it is going to give up the ball to Dwight?

Doubt it.
Kinda hafta agree. I see this ending more like 2004 than 2009-2010. Hopefully Kobe can fck off a play like a professional.

ImmortalD24
08-10-2012, 11:27 PM
:roll: at this thread getting to 8 pages.
So we are supposed to believe that the same guy who is taking away shots from Lebron, Durant, CP3, and Melo on Team USA only to put up ridiculously inefficient shots in an attempt to prove he still has it is going to give up the ball to Dwight?

Doubt it.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?p=7668844#post7668844

RazorBaLade
08-10-2012, 11:28 PM
I dont want kobe to give it to dwight.

I want kobe to give it to nash. Nash will do whats right. And I dont think nash would have come over if he didnt have explicit permission from kobe to run this teams offense for a GOOD portion of the game. Thats all I believe. I dont think I should not believe it.

We'll see what this team looks like around all star break.

andredagiant
08-10-2012, 11:39 PM
Pretty sure the ESPN article stated
"I'll probably play two or three more years. THEN the team is his," Bryant said.

So yeah, Kobe still think it's his team.
source:

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8256377/dwight-howard-traded-los-angeles-lakers

TMacMagic
08-10-2012, 11:45 PM
megan fox

I can't take DFish seriously after reading that thread. Wow.

Dictator
08-10-2012, 11:48 PM
Didn't kobe call dwight and tell him straight up he'd be the 3rd option behind gasol? :lol :roll:

The Iron Fist
08-11-2012, 12:07 AM
Sure they can. Wade deferred to Lebron, he was his sidekick. Same thing will happen with Dwight and Kobe. At this stage of Kobe's career, he's just not effective enough to be the centerpiece of a franchise.
You have said that for Kobes entire career.

Will you ever learn?

Mr. Jabbar
08-11-2012, 12:32 AM
humblebe :oldlol:

DDensity
08-11-2012, 12:38 AM
If the Lakers win the NBA title this will be the 5th time that he was arguably the second best player on the team. Top 10 all time as a sidekick lol. I'm not even trying to hate here as I like Kobe, but at least 4 of his six NBA titles would be as the sidekick. I would think that should knock him down on the all time list, not bump him up.

So true. I mean, it's so obvious. Just count all the rings Pau and Shaq had before teaming with Kobe. :rolleyes:

Heavincent
08-11-2012, 12:43 AM
So we are supposed to believe that the same guy who is taking away shots from Lebron, Durant, CP3, and Melo on Team USA only to put up ridiculously inefficient shots in an attempt to prove he still has it is going to give up the ball to Dwight?

Doubt it.

Another retarded post :applause:

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
08-11-2012, 12:48 AM
You have said that for Kobes entire career.

Will you ever learn?

Bullshit. Keep hiding behind an alt though, you pansy.

Hands of Iron
08-11-2012, 12:52 AM
Kobe was not a 'sidekick' in either title won with Gasol. Jesus Christ. :oldlol:

swag2011
08-11-2012, 01:40 AM
Motivationbe:bowdown:

Get on Dwight's good side then snake that FMVP:rockon:

yup :cheers: get that 3rd FMVP!

The Iron Fist
08-11-2012, 02:13 AM
Corleonebe. He decides when its time to take a step back and who his replacement will be. And always consulted when key decisions need to be made.

NoGunzJustSkillz
08-11-2012, 02:53 AM
kobe said the team will be dwights when he retires.

boojitede
08-11-2012, 03:18 AM
If Kobe defers to Howard: Kobe is a role player now. His ring (if he wins) does not mean anything. He should just retire.

.
his rings prove one thing. he cant do shit without a dominant big.

kobe without a big = 2 1st round exits

wally_world
08-11-2012, 03:24 AM
SteveNashBegsToDifferBe

Deuce Bigalow
08-11-2012, 03:24 AM
his rings prove one thing. he cant do shit without a dominant big.

kobe without a big = 2 1st round exits
Jordan without Pippen = 3 1st round exists, 2 missed playoffs, 0 titles
Kareem without Oscar/Magic = 2 missed playoffs, 2 1st round exits, 0 titles
Magic without Kareem = 0 titles
Shaq without Kobe/Wade = 0 titles
ect

brandonislegend
08-11-2012, 03:26 AM
Jordan without Pippen = 3 1st round exists, 2 missed playoffs, 0 titles
:applause:

sodap
08-11-2012, 03:50 AM
his rings prove one thing. he cant do shit without a dominant big.

kobe without a big = 2 1st round exits


Shaq before Kobe: 0 rings
Pau before Kobe: 0 rings
Dwight before Kobe: 0 rings (we'll see how this turns out)

:kobe:

LakersReign
08-11-2012, 04:01 AM
his rings prove one thing. he cant do shit without a dominant big.

kobe without a big = 2 1st round exits

Yeah cuz Lebron was hanging so many championship banners at the Q without Wade and Bosh....right?:facepalm

coin24
08-11-2012, 04:07 AM
Yeah cuz Lebron was hanging so many championship banners at the Q without Wade and Bosh....right?:facepalm

This:applause: :applause:

Idiotic lebron stans:lol funny how scared they all are now:lol

Nick Young
08-11-2012, 04:11 AM
GOAT humility.

5 rings and he's giving up control (yeh right we know Kobe is the truee alpha dog still)

Never before have we seen such selflessness:rockon:

LakersReign
08-11-2012, 04:13 AM
This:applause: :applause:

Idiotic lebron stans:lol funny how scared they all are now:lol

What's real funny now is that, after recent events, it's real easy now to use their own ret**ded logic against them. Lebron didn't win a damn thing those 7 years in Cleveland. He comes to Miami with Wade/Bosh and FINALLY wins, but now his idiotic fans want to try and act like he did it all by himself. Simply cuz they don't want to get hit with their own ridiculous double standard they invented to discredit Kobe:roll:

Simple Jack
08-11-2012, 04:35 AM
Yeah cuz Lebron was hanging so many championship banners at the Q without Wade and Bosh....right?:facepalm

He was doing about as good as anyone in NBA history could with the talent he was surrounded with.

LakersReign
08-11-2012, 04:48 AM
He was doing about as good as anyone in NBA history could with the talent he was surrounded with.

I guess you(simple jacka**) didn't realize that the conversation you're having in your head with the 25 other people who want to beat the hell outta you, IS NOT the same conversation everyone else in this thread is having....huh?:lol

andgar923
08-11-2012, 06:28 AM
Chris Mannix ‏@ChrisMannixSI

Kobe on Dwight: "The team is his. It should be his."

:lebronamazed:

Why not post the rest of the quote?

'The team is his. It should be his. But I'll still chuck the ball 28 times a game."

Ne 1
08-11-2012, 10:41 AM
Nor was it hardly even about that when they did it. ****ING WIN, Period. It's a Team Sport. All that sort of changed after Jordan left his mark. Now it's about being 'the man' and 'alpha dog', sidekicks and second bananas.

Even so Kobe's production was on par with first options in the 2001 and 2002 championships, so you can't write those off as "side-kick rings". The Lakers didn't have a legit 3rd scorer, so despite Shaq scoring more than many other players in championship years, Kobe also scored more and did more than many other first options and while Shaq was the focal point of the offense, and yes, clearly the Lakers best player, Kobe was their playmaker and facilitator (averaging numbers that a first option would have on any other team). Here's a quote that sums up Kobe's 2001 run:

I think it's the best that I've ever seen a player of mine play with an overall court game. I'm asking him to do so much, and he's accomplishing it. I never asked Michael to be a playmaker. That's the greatest player that I've ever had, that I could consider the greatest player in the game, and I never asked him to be a playmaker in those terms. I asked him to be playmaker when he was doubled or tripled. But Kobe has to set up the offense, to advance the ball, to read the defense, to make other players happy, and he's doing a great job of that. - Phil Jackson

chips93
08-11-2012, 10:46 AM
If Kobe defers to Howard: Kobe is a role player now. His ring (if he wins) does not mean anything. He should just retire.

If Kobe does not defer to Howard: Such a ballhog. Dude has the best center in the league and still want to shoot 30 times a game.


you say it like theres no middle ground

if he does strike a good balance between defering, and taking over, most rational fans will applaud him

PostUpBumpSpinJ
08-11-2012, 11:36 AM

NBASTATMAN
08-11-2012, 12:01 PM
Kobe finally does the correct thing and people are upset over it. Whether or not he is the man and wins a ring is a moot point. He will move higher on the all time list.. I don't think he will ever get to the 1-4 position but 5 could be his... :hammerhead:

sosolid4u09
08-11-2012, 12:15 PM
Can Someone post a link of the dwight impersonating kb?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddpFON845iU

riseagainst
08-11-2012, 12:19 PM
Reporters reporting half truths.

Mike Bresnahan ‏@Mike_Bresnahan
Kobe: "I'll play 2-3 more years. Then the team is his. I'm excited b/c they have a player that can carry the franchise well after I'm gone."

:bowdown:

:bowdown: :bowdown:
so humble, yet still a gawd.

alleykat
08-11-2012, 02:01 PM
wait i thought he said he wouldn't resign? will he even still be with lakers next year?

riseagainst
08-11-2012, 03:00 PM
and on the 7th day, Gawdbe handed over the throne to Dwight Howard. :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
How great is our Gawd? So powerful yet so humble. :bowdown: :bowdown:

Riley Martin
08-11-2012, 03:13 PM
wait i thought he said he wouldn't resign? will he even still be with lakers next year?

He said he's not extending (with any team) but he hasn't talked about re-signing next summer. Most people think he will though considering how happy he looked at that press conference. I think he's already in love with the city of LA which isn't surprising to me at all.

Bandito
08-11-2012, 03:24 PM
his rings prove one thing. he cant do shit without a dominant big.

kobe without a big = 2 1st round exits
Lebron without two ten top player = no rings. See how easy that is? And when since Gasol been dominant LOL.

Doesn't mean anything the heat are probably still gonna win if Bosh plays team defense like he did in last year finals. I think he played pretty good compared to 2011.

DaSeba5
08-11-2012, 03:37 PM
Kobe's ego is what makes him Kobe. I don't believe that for a second. It's actually not a knock on Kobe. He's just very confident in himself and is the face of the franchise.

funnystuff
08-11-2012, 03:43 PM
Why not post the rest of the quote?

'The team is his. It should be his. But I'll still chuck the ball 28 times a game."
:lol

Deuce Bigalow
08-11-2012, 04:28 PM
Why not post the rest of the quote?

'The team is his. It should be his. But I'll still chuck the ball 28 times a game."
Why not put your quote in there?

"I'm pretty mad that Kobe might get that 6th ring. But I'll try to discredit it if it happens and say Dwight carried him."

franchiez
08-11-2012, 04:31 PM
Will ALWAYS be Kobe's team, he knows that.

Doctor Rivers
08-11-2012, 05:42 PM
Why not post the rest of the quote?

'The team is his. It should be his. But I'll still chuck the ball 28 times a game."

lol clown

upside24
08-11-2012, 05:46 PM
I find it hard to believe that Kobe will relinquish his alpha role on the team but it is the best thing to do for the team. Kobe knows his basketball mortality and I hope he does develop a different role on the team as a more efficient off the ball player who takes advantage of the shot opportunities playing with D12 and Nash will present.

I have confidence that he can change his game to suit this new team because he is one of the greatest basketball minds the game has ever seen.

gasolina
08-11-2012, 05:55 PM
It will be nice to see Dwight play with a legit playmaker. One of his most productive regular seasons were with still prime jameer in 08 and vc in 2010. Of course, when the playoffs came around, vc just imploded.

Getting one playmaker is enough, but kobe, nash AND gasol? Talk about early christmas

pauk
08-11-2012, 06:34 PM
"The team is his. It should be his."

http://i42.tinypic.com/mbo5s6.gif