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swag2011
08-17-2012, 01:48 AM
Wow. Read this blog piece if you have time. I'm sure some of you Kobe haters will relate. It's pretty good. This paragraph stood out to me the most.



"With both Howard and Nash on board, the Kobe hate becomes more of a conspiracy theory. It’s somehow all interconnected yet shifting and elusive. Burn them for they have traded successfully. And regardless, the Lakers won’t win anyway because Kobe will essentially sabotage their success on the alter of his fading greatness. Unless they actually do manage to buy themselves another ring and then it doesn’t matter, considering that the cards were already stacked."


ETA: My bad here's the link. http://searchingforslava.blogspot.com/

DTreats
08-17-2012, 01:53 AM
Those who hate Kobe are just Kobe lovers who haven't realized it yet

JaggerCommaMick
08-17-2012, 01:55 AM
Thinking Kobe is overrated dont mean you hate him, mate.

Its a false dichotomy like sayin if some bloke dont agree with ur politics, he aint a patriot.

You only use it as a dismissal tactic because if you aftually hear out the arguments youd be crushed by logic. So you just label anyone who disagrees with ur assessment of kobe=thebest and use that as a weak means to defend your wrong opinion u hold so dear, mate.

This is why people think kobes overrated. Because of the way people like you rate him. But we dont hate kobe, mate. We actually hate you.

EnoughSaid
08-17-2012, 01:55 AM
I mainly dislike Kobe's fans or homers. The only real time I dislike him as a player is when he shoots a horrible percentage, or chucks up a shitload of shots.

thelucifer69
08-17-2012, 02:00 AM
Watch Kobe highlight couple time a week and enjoy it

Still think he's overrated

Can't stand Kobe stan

tmacattack33
08-17-2012, 02:01 AM
He refused to let his star he outshone on the freakin Olympic team and put up terrible shots with Durant, Lebron, Melo, and Paul right there next to him.

We all saw it.

So predicting that LA will lose in the playoffs because of similar sh*t going on is not that strange of a thing to say. It's probably one of the better predictions anyone can have of a way in which they lose...alongside Dwight having health problems or Gasol completely disappearing in the playoffs.

dajadeed
08-17-2012, 02:08 AM
How can you ask people to read something and not even link to it? :confusedshrug:

BuffaloBill
08-17-2012, 02:10 AM
Those who hate Kobe are just Kobe lovers who haven't realized it yet


Wise words :bowdown:

Trentknicks
08-17-2012, 02:10 AM
Kobe is mainly hated because he has so many stans that overrate him and go on for hours. Being charged with rape and then the charges 'dissapearing' doesn't help the public perception of him, coupled with the fact that he put Vanessa through more sh!t this offseason with Steph Rice & the clubbing photo.

Out of the top 10 players ever, Kobe has been possibly the luckiest. Since joining the Lakers, he has only experienced about a 3 year window in which they were not stacked/holding contender status.

Yao Ming's Foot
08-17-2012, 02:11 AM
Kobe haters rushing to a thread to declare themselves not haters.

:oldlol:

Why are you in this thread then? It's not about you.

Yao Ming's Foot
08-17-2012, 02:15 AM
Just wondering how many of you non Kobe haters :oldlol: :oldlol: have ever criticized Michael Jordan for being the least efficient player on the Dream Team or any other basketball player for hanging around attractive women?

dajadeed
08-17-2012, 02:16 AM
Kobe is mainly hated because he has so many stans that overrate him and go on for hours. Being charged with rape and then the charges 'dissapearing' doesn't help the public perception of him, coupled with the fact that he put Vanessa through more sh!t this offseason with Steph Rice & the clubbing photo.

Out of the top 10 players ever, Kobe has been possibly the luckiest. Since joining the Lakers, he has only experienced about a 3 year window in which they were not stacked/holding contender status.

All off the court issues. People who bring up that stuff should focus on reality television. Maybe Jersey Shore?

This is a basketball forum. Who the **** cares about Stephanie Rice when talking about Kobe's game?

:oldlol:

Trentknicks
08-17-2012, 02:19 AM
All off the court issues. People who bring up that stuff should focus on reality television. Maybe Jersey Shore?

This is a basketball forum. Who the **** cares about Stephanie Rice when talking about Kobe's game?

:oldlol:
The thread is about why people hate Kobe, I love his game but without a doubt the off court stuff helps to formulate people's opinion. Try not to be so ignorant.

Yao Ming's Foot
08-17-2012, 02:21 AM
The thread is about why people hate Kobe, I love his game but without a doubt the off court stuff helps to formulate people's opinion. Try not to be so ignorant.

Big Vanessa Bryant fan? Do you worry about other NBA wives/girlfriends/babby mommas or just her?

Heavincent
08-17-2012, 02:23 AM
It is kind of funny how Kobe haters have been grasping at straws for over 10 years now. First it was "Kobe can't win without Shaq", then he won back-to-back FMVP's without Shaq and then it changed to "Kobe can't win without a good team". Yeah? Well no ****ing shit. Nobody has ever won without a good team. Absolutely nobody. It's almost baffling how they fail to see that.

Trentknicks
08-17-2012, 02:24 AM
Big Vanessa Bryant fan? Do you worry about other NBA wives/girlfriends/babby mommas or just her?
Are you seriously going to be this immature? Every time the Kobe haters go on a rant, other than criticising him for his FG%, him being a rapist and ****ing around with the other girls are the main reasons, that's the point im trying to make fool.

FKAri
08-17-2012, 02:25 AM
He is overrated. Every star player is overrated. It's how marketing works. He is still top 10 all time imo and along with Duncan and Shaq, one of the best players of his generation.

Yao Ming's Foot
08-17-2012, 02:35 AM
Are you seriously going to be this immature? Every time the Kobe haters go on a rant, other than criticising him for his FG%, him being a rapist and ****ing around with the other girls are the main reasons, that's the point im trying to make fool.

Haters go on a rant because they are haters. Nobody seriously cares that a professional athletes hang around other girls. Otherwise they wouldn't watch the NBA. 99.9% of NBA athletes do it. That's the point. If you criticize Kobe for doing something the entire league does you are a hater. If you criticize Kobe's field goal percentage in the Olympics and never said a peep about Jordan on the Dream Team you are a hater. If you act like you have some 100% for sure inside knowledge on whether or not Kobe is a rapist instead of being falsely accused of rape you are a hater. :confusedshrug:

G-Funk
08-17-2012, 02:52 AM
Nothing overrated about 5 Championships, 28/6/5 46% as a starter for 14 years or so

Trentknicks
08-17-2012, 03:00 AM
Haters go on a rant because they are haters. Nobody seriously cares that a professional athletes hang around other girls. Otherwise they wouldn't watch the NBA. 99.9% of NBA athletes do it. That's the point. If you criticize Kobe for doing something the entire league does you are a hater. If you criticize Kobe's field goal percentage in the Olympics and never said a peep about Jordan on the Dream Team you are a hater. If you act like you have some 100% for sure inside knowledge on whether or not Kobe is a rapist instead of being falsely accused of rape you are a hater. :confusedshrug:
I'll restate my point once again so it's simple for you. Even put it in italics, you ready, here we go. The reasons I listed, are the reasons brought up by many of the Kobe haters as to why they hate him. I don't hate Kobe, but was simply restating why many do.

Yao Ming's Foot
08-17-2012, 03:05 AM
I'll restate my point once again so it's simple for you. Even put it in italics, you ready, here we go. The reasons I listed, are the reasons brought up by many of the Kobe haters as to why they hate him. I don't hate Kobe, but was simply restating why many do.

and I'm telling you those are the reasons they claim yet when you apply logic to the situation it falls apart. If I said I hate you because you are a Knicks fan but don't hate any other people for being a fan of the Knicks then the notion that my hate for you has anything to do with the Knicks is unfounded.

monkeypox
08-17-2012, 03:09 AM
It's pretty easy to do. Pretty much everything good that happened around Kobe happened despite him. So titles and whatnot really belong to Shaq and Pau and whatever. Everything bad that happened is Kobe's fault only. So even though Shaq and Pau supposedly lead those title teams, when they failed it was purely Kobe's fault.

funnystuff
08-17-2012, 04:27 AM
I mainly dislike Kobe's fans or homers. The only real time I dislike him as a player is when he shoots a horrible percentage, or chucks up a shitload of shots.
So you dislike him all the time?

BigMic
08-17-2012, 05:10 AM
I don't hate Kobe, I hate his blind fans who still bring us his five rings as a proof of being the 2nd best SG in NBA history.

Nick Young
08-17-2012, 06:31 AM
Despite Kobe blatantly banging the shit out of Stephanie Rice and about 30 other white girls on the side, Vanessa seemed pretty happy with him this olympics http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/08/04/article-0-14626160000005DC-987_634x412.jpg he must be getting close to wilts record by now

KingMichael23
08-17-2012, 06:31 AM
I don't hate Kobe, I hate his blind fans who still bring us his five rings as a proof of being the 2nd best SG in NBA history.
He is the 2nd best SG in NBA history.

imnew09
08-17-2012, 06:36 AM
Despite Kobe blatantly banging the shit out of Stephanie Rice and about 30 other white girls on the side, Vanessa seemed pretty happy with him this olympics http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/08/04/article-0-14626160000005DC-987_634x412.jpg he must be getting close to wilts record by now

The white girl looks extremely sad because Kobe brought his wife this time!

KOBE !!!!!

Optimus Prime
08-17-2012, 07:12 AM
Most of the hating comes from kids who think basketball only started in 2010. Anybody who knows anything knows that Kobe is one of the best of all time and the NBA will be a lesser place after he retires.

:kobe:

Nick Young
08-17-2012, 07:35 AM
Most of the hating comes from kids who think basketball only started in 2010. Anybody who knows anything knows that Kobe is one of the best of all time and the NBA will be a lesser place after he retires.

:kobe:
nice signature

KOBE143
08-17-2012, 07:45 AM
You're not a basketball fan if you hate Kobe.. I dont see any reason why people hate Kobe.. Maybe being GOAT make them jelly.. :confusedshrug:

Glide2keva
08-17-2012, 08:20 AM
I don't hate Kobe, I hate his fans.

Overdrive
08-17-2012, 09:05 AM
Nothing overrated about 5 Championships, 28/6/5 46% as a starter for 14 years or so

Everytime longevity is brought up it's his 16th season, everytime people want to neglect his first 3 season's stats it's his 14th season, as if the first 3 don't count for his stats.

If you hate haters for cherrypicking don't do it either.


I don't hate Kobe, I hate his blind fans who still bring us his five rings as a proof of being the 2nd best SG in NBA history.

He's the 2nd best SG of all time and his 5 Rings are a big part of his legacy, because he was a big part for those teams, and I don't really like or care for Kobe.

Overall there's a lot of unwarranted hate on Kobe, but also alot of overappreciating.

ihoopallday
08-17-2012, 09:15 AM
I don't hate Kobe, I hate his fans.

This. Before I actually got on sports forums, I didn't realize just how annoying they were. It's the same for other superstar players, but there's a lot more Kobe stans around.

PyrrhusX
08-17-2012, 09:20 AM
I mainly dislike Kobe's fans or homers. The only real time I dislike him as a player is when he shoots a horrible percentage, or chucks up a shitload of shots.

:bowdown:
Is there really a need to post so many threads about kobe and kobe and his chances at winning?
The worst Kobe stans are the ones that think they have his next ring locked up :facepalm

SilkkTheShocker
08-17-2012, 09:20 AM
Missed te playoffs and lost in the 1st round twice when he didn't have a stacked frountcourt. He is top 10 all-time, but his impact is overrated when it comes to winning championships. 5 rings is impressive, but he was sidekick for 3 of them, and was carried getting his last one.

Overdrive
08-17-2012, 09:27 AM
...and was carried getting his last one.

That's such an bullshit argument. Yes Pau had good numbers, but carrying is feeding your bigman in the post, watch him put up 30-40 ppg and score 10ppg on 40% shooting and putting up some 4apg.

Kobe didn't get carried, he had help.

SilkkTheShocker
08-17-2012, 09:34 AM
That's such an bullshit argument. Yes Pau had good numbers, but carrying is feeding your bigman in the post, watch him put up 30-40 ppg and score 10ppg on 40% shooting and putting up some 4apg.

Kobe didn't get carried, he had help.


We know he had help. Aside from 04-07, he has played on stacked teams his while career. Him and his agent manipulated the draft just so he wouldn't end up on rebuilding team. Kobe hasn't nearly had to put in the hard work as some of the other greats.

Overdrive
08-17-2012, 09:36 AM
We know he had help. Aside from 04-07, he has played on stacked teams his while career. Him and his agent manipulated the draft just so he wouldn't end up on rebuilding team. Kobe hasn't nearly had to put in the hard work as some of the other greats.

Yes, he had it easier than the likes of Iverson, Grant Hill, Garnett or other 90s prospects, but he wasn't carried to his last ring..

riseagainst
08-17-2012, 09:38 AM
Missed te playoffs and lost in the 1st round twice when he didn't have a stacked frountcourt. He is top 10 all-time, but his impact is overrated when it comes to winning championships. 5 rings is impressive, but he was sidekick for 3 of them, and was carried getting his last one.

things like this is what drives some kobe fans to "overrate" him, because haters underrate him. It's a vicious circle and extreme Lebron stans/kobe haters are the cause of all this.

ukplayer4
08-17-2012, 09:48 AM
its terribly confusing for me. i want to hate the lakers but now nash is there it makes it alot harder, especially as i think everyone wants him to get a title. landing dwight tho, again is another plus for being able to hate them, but then again i cannot hate on nash...

Calabis
08-17-2012, 11:54 AM
Thinking Kobe is overrated dont mean you hate him, mate.

Its a false dichotomy like sayin if some bloke dont agree with ur politics, he aint a patriot.

You only use it as a dismissal tactic because if you aftually hear out the arguments youd be crushed by logic. So you just label anyone who disagrees with ur assessment of kobe=thebest and use that as a weak means to defend your wrong opinion u hold so dear, mate.

This is why people think kobes overrated. Because of the way people like you rate him. But we dont hate kobe, mate. We actually hate you.

:applause:

U can have Kobe in your Top 10 players all-time, but if u think MJ and some others are better, than u are a hater:roll:

riseagainst
08-17-2012, 12:06 PM
:applause:

U can have Kobe in your Top 10 players all-time, but if u think MJ and some others are better, than u are a hater:roll:

talk about exaggeration. Who's actually said that you are a hater if you don't think Kobe = GOAT?
a hater is someone who says things like:
Kobe isn't even close to top 20 all time.
He was carried by all his teammates: Shaq, Gasol, Bynum, Fisher, Luke Walton, Kwame Brown.
Kobe's just an average player because his PER is sh*itty.
I don't rank Kobe high because he's a rapist.
Everything Kobe has achieved were things he did not deserve: his 1 CONSOLATION MVP.
he was carried by Shaq, so he doesn't even deserve credit for his 1st 3 rings.
He can't win without Shaq, if he does manage to win, his 2 fmvps = getting carried by other people. he didn't even deserve his 2 fmvps because he had the most stacked team in nba history. Kobe getting carried day and night.
he didn't deserve any of his 1st team selections because it was voted on by coaches who were biased. But every other player who gets voted in get credibility.

:biggums:

the logic in these haters

:rolleyes:

BigMic
08-17-2012, 12:15 PM
He's the 2nd best SG of all time and his 5 Rings are a big part of his legacy, because he was a big part for those teams, and I don't really like or care for Kobe.

Overall there's a lot of unwarranted hate on Kobe, but also alot of overappreciating.
I can't place him 2nd cause he has been well surrounded for his career, except maybe 2 seasons 2005 -> 2006/07. I don't know who to choose instead of him, but I like to keep an eye on Iverson who was alone his whole career.

riseagainst
08-17-2012, 12:19 PM
I can't place him 2nd cause he has been well surrounded for his career, except maybe 2 seasons 2005 -> 2006/07. I don't know who to choose instead of him, but I like to keep an eye on Iverson who was alone his whole career.

:confusedshrug:

glidedrxlr22
08-17-2012, 12:19 PM
Lakers_kobe_fan why you hiding you piece of sh!t?

LakersReign
08-17-2012, 12:21 PM
Thinking Kobe is overrated dont mean you hate him, mate.

Its a false dichotomy like sayin if some bloke dont agree with ur politics, he aint a patriot.

You only use it as a dismissal tactic because if you aftually hear out the arguments youd be crushed by logic. So you just label anyone who disagrees with ur assessment of kobe=thebest and use that as a weak means to defend your wrong opinion u hold so dear, mate.

This is why people think kobes overrated. Because of the way people like you rate him. But we dont hate kobe, mate. We actually hate you.

Funny how Lebron fans are the same ones who feel, the minute you aren't in love with Lebron, like they so CLEARLY are, then you....MUST....AUTOMATICALLY hate him. Like people have no right to their own opinions, that are different from everyone else's. That's the OBVIOUS sign of insecurity reasonable fans see, oozing out of Lebron fans, which is why they don't take them seriously.:no:

glidedrxlr22
08-17-2012, 12:26 PM
Funny how Kobe fans are the same ones who feel, the minute you aren't in love with Kobe, like they so CLEARLY are, then you....MUST....AUTOMATICALLY hate him. Like people have no right to their own opinions, that are different from everyone else's. That's the OBVIOUS sign of insecurity reasonable fans see, oozing out of Kobe fans, which is why they don't take them seriously.:no:

Fixed

aka. Astroglie, aka KY Jelly, aka sock puppet full of lube, aka....who else am I Reigny???

riseagainst
08-17-2012, 12:28 PM
Fixed

aka. Astroglie, aka KY Jelly, aka sock puppet full of lube, aka....who else am I Reigny???

pretty sure lebron fans do that too.....

Overdrive
08-17-2012, 12:33 PM
I can't place him 2nd cause he has been well surrounded for his career, except maybe 2 seasons 2005 -> 2006/07. I don't know who to choose instead of him, but I like to keep an eye on Iverson who was alone his whole career.

Iverson's 2001 team was pretty decent and he wasn't alone for his whole career. Those Nuggets teams weren't that bad imo.

Imo SG is a position that can carry a team the least. Even Jordan had good to great teams.

LakersReign
08-17-2012, 12:35 PM
pretty sure lebron fans do that too.....

Pay no attention to that moron. They've been sitting up in here for the last 6 months with their bogus lies, and are now mad as **** that nobody cares. Like my posts are supposedly unintentionally funny, which explains exactly why they all get SEVERELY butthurt whenever they read them:roll:

KOBE143
08-17-2012, 12:37 PM
Kobe is the GOAT simple as that.. accept the truth, stop the hating..