More impressive feat: Triple double double or quintuple double?

[TheGreatBlaze]

20/20/20 vs 10/10/10/10/10

Sorry the title should say quintuple double

[Faptastrophe]

Triple double should be renamed to Oscar Robertson double.

Of course the quadruple double is more impressive. It requires the player to be completely dominant on both ends without being selfish.


This isn't quadruple double. Edit your post.

10/10/10/10/10

This is called double triple double.

20/20/20

[TheGreatBlaze]

Triple double should be renamed to Oscar Robertson double.

Of course the quadruple double is more impressive. It requires the player to be completely dominant on both ends without being selfish.


This isn't quadruple double. Edit your post.


This is called double triple double.
Whoops you're right /:

[Rake2204]

Well, if it really is 20/20/20 vs. 10/10/10/10/10, I think I'd go with the latter. 10 points, 10 rebounds, 10 assists, 10 blocks, 10 steals? That'd be pretty filthy. However, if that was a mere syntax error and it's truly supposed to be 10/10/10/10, I suppose that makes things a little more interesting. We've heard and seen folks go for 20 and 20 on frequent occasions so on one hand, it seems like, "So it's just one more stat on top of the ones he's already picked up." However, stacking 20 assists on top of 20 points and 20 rebounds would be otherworldly.

Also, deciding which stat were more impressive (20/20/20 vs. 10/10/10/10) might depend upon which statistics were represented. What if we were looking at 20 points, 20 blocks, and 20 steals? Or say, 112 points, 10 rebounds, 39 blocks and 28 dunks?

http://i33.tinypic.com/qys1eb.jpg

[RoundMoundOfReb]

quintuple double>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>double triple double>>quadruple double

[chains5000]

Triple double double's almost impossible.
How many 20/20/10 games have there ever been?

[BlackWhiteGreen]

I think 20/20/20. Assuming it's points/assists/rebounds, you've contributed to at least 60 points for your team (and up to 80). Adding 10 steals to 10/10/10 is impressive, but most likely the other team was being too careless with the ball and the player was fortunate to be in the right place to steal it. 10 blocks would be more impressive, especially given the player is likely a guard to rack up 10 assists. I still think 20/20/20... And there's only one player currently in the NBA who'd get close to that.

[Psileas]

20/20/20 vs 10/10/10/10/10 is practically like comparing a 10/10/10 TD to a 10 steals-10 blocks DD.

10 steals-10 blocks is obviously more impressive and rare than 10 rebounds and 10 assists and it doesn't seem like 10 points make the difference.
However, the latter combo offers you 30-40 points and 10 possessions, while the first offers you 10-20 possessions, so we're comparing 30-40 points to 0-10 possessions, which almost always will favor the first.

So, 5x10 is more impressive than 3x20, but 3x20 will offer more points. Though there are some intangible factors going for blocks and steals which can't be measured here.

I just hope 20/20/20 is points/rebounds/assists. Not in the mood to go further.

[Owl]

Depends on the context and the actual line. Is the quint guy only scoring 10 points? Is the 20/20/20 a Robertson, Magic, Rondo type pts/as/reb (not that they did it though Robertson could quite plausibly have done so) or a Chamberlain, Russell, Jabbar, Olajuwon, Robinson, O'Neal, Howard, Bradley, Mutombo 20/20/20 pts/reb/blk (again not actually achieved but again 60s players might have done it).

The quint would probably require a Josh Smith, Marion, Kirilenko, Camby, Nance, Olajuwon, Robinson type. The main thing is getting the two defensive categories, but even if you get those the chance of those guys getting double figure assists in the same game are slim.

Olajuwon might have been closest in the modern era but he was closer with steals (7) than assists (6) http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=&match=game&year_min=&year_max=&age_min=0&age_max=99&team_id=&opp_id=&is_playoffs=&round_is_ec1=Y&round_is_ecs=Y&round_is_ecf=Y&round_is_wc1=Y&round_is_wcs=Y&round_is_wcf=Y&round_is_fin=Y&game_num_type=&game_num_min=&game_num_max=&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&is_starter=&is_active=&is_hof=&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=stl&c1comp=gt&c1val=7&c2stat=blk&c2comp=gt&c2val=7&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=ast

[Overdrive]

I say both quad and quintruple double are more impressive than a double triple double at the moment, for the whole history of the NBA I think a quintruple beat the double triple double, which beats the quad double.

Why? Historycally speaking I think only Wilt had a double triple double, so it's a rare feat. 4 Players had a quad double, some got very close or missed it because of the statkeeper(Drexler, Shaq came close in '01 Finals).
A quintruple double is almost impossible in a regulation game. You'd need a passing big man for that who could also steal the ball at a high clip(Hakeem, who got the most 5by5s recorded).

I think there's a player in the league who is able to put up a double triple double in Rondo, that's why I think at the moment a quad double would be more impressive, because I see no one putting up a quad double.

[Owl]

Triple double double's almost impossible.
How many 20/20/10 games have there ever been?
I know Shawn Bradley has one.

Here's the basketball-reference searches for modern era 20/20/10s

P/R/B http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=&match=game&year_min=&year_max=&age_min=0&age_max=99&team_id=&opp_id=&is_playoffs=&round_is_ec1=Y&round_is_ecs=Y&round_is_ecf=Y&round_is_wc1=Y&round_is_wcs=Y&round_is_wcf=Y&round_is_fin=Y&game_num_type=&game_num_min=&game_num_max=&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&is_starter=&is_active=&is_hof=&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=pts&c1comp=gt&c1val=20&c2stat=trb&c2comp=gt&c2val=20&c3stat=blk&c3comp=gt&c3val=10&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=pts
P/A/S None
P/R/A http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=&match=game&year_min=&year_max=&age_min=0&age_max=99&team_id=&opp_id=&is_playoffs=&round_is_ec1=Y&round_is_ecs=Y&round_is_ecf=Y&round_is_wc1=Y&round_is_wcs=Y&round_is_wcf=Y&round_is_fin=Y&game_num_type=&game_num_min=&game_num_max=&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&is_starter=&is_active=&is_hof=&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=pts&c1comp=gt&c1val=20&c2stat=trb&c2comp=gt&c2val=20&c3stat=ast&c3comp=gt&c3val=10&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=pts
P/A/R http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=&match=game&year_min=&year_max=&age_min=0&age_max=99&team_id=&opp_id=&is_playoffs=&round_is_ec1=Y&round_is_ecs=Y&round_is_ecf=Y&round_is_wc1=Y&round_is_wcs=Y&round_is_wcf=Y&round_is_fin=Y&game_num_type=&game_num_min=&game_num_max=&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&is_starter=&is_active=&is_hof=&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=pts&c1comp=gt&c1val=20&c2stat=ast&c2comp=gt&c2val=20&c3stat=trb&c3comp=gt&c3val=10&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=pts

[pegasus]

Krilenko had 5/5/5/5/5 two games in a row back in 06 or 07. And they weren't all 5's; some of them were in double digits (points and rebounds, IIRC).

[swi7ch]

Quintuple double > *

[steve]

The only thing we know is that the 20/20/20 has actually been accomplished.

[riseagainst]

20/20/20 vs 10/10/10/10/10

Sorry the title should say quintuple double


10 blocks and 10 steals is freaking amazing.

[jlauber]

Depends on the context and the actual line. Is the quint guy only scoring 10 points? Is the 20/20/20 a Robertson, Magic, Rondo type pts/as/reb (not that they did it though Robertson could quite plausibly have done so) or a Chamberlain, Russell, Jabbar, Olajuwon, Robinson, O'Neal, Howard, Bradley, Mutombo 20/20/20 pts/reb/blk (again not actually achieved but again 60s players might have done it).

The quint would probably require a Josh Smith, Marion, Kirilenko, Camby, Nance, Olajuwon, Robinson type. The main thing is getting the two defensive categories, but even if you get those the chance of those guys getting double figure assists in the same game are slim.

Olajuwon might have been closest in the modern era but he was closer with steals (7) than assists (6) http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=&match=game&year_min=&year_max=&age_min=0&age_max=99&team_id=&opp_id=&is_playoffs=&round_is_ec1=Y&round_is_ecs=Y&round_is_ecf=Y&round_is_wc1=Y&round_is_wcs=Y&round_is_wcf=Y&round_is_fin=Y&game_num_type=&game_num_min=&game_num_max=&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&is_starter=&is_active=&is_hof=&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=stl&c1comp=gt&c1val=7&c2stat=blk&c2comp=gt&c2val=7&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=ast

Chamberlain actually had TWO 20-20-20 games in his career, albeit one was "unofficial." He, of course had the 22 point, 25 rebound, 21 assist game in 1968. And then game recaps credited Wilt with 20 blocks (against Bellamy's team no less) in a game in 1962, in which he scored 34 points with 33 rebounds. So, I guess you could say he had a 30-30-20 game.

There is also a very questionable possibility that he had a quint-double in 1968. We KNOW he scored 53 points (on 24-29 shooting), with 32 rebounds and 14 asisists. But there is a site that "estimated" that he also blocked 24 shots and had 11 steals. In any case, that 53-32-14 line may have been the most spectacular triple-double in NBA history.

[BlueandGold]

Obviously the quint, like one poster stated one has actually been accomplished (the 20/20/20).. scoring at least 10+ in every possible basketball category is the definition of complete dominance. You would have to be able to block, steal, pass, rebound and not to mention score all incredibly well in order to even get close.

[john_d]

I remember robinson had a 10/10/10/10 game

[Colbertnation64]

Chamberlain actually had TWO 20-20-20 games in his career, albeit one was "unofficial." He, of course had the 22 point, 25 rebound, 21 assist game in 1968. And then game recaps credited Wilt with 20 blocks (against Bellamy's team no less) in a game in 1962, in which he scored 34 points with 33 rebounds. So, I guess you could say he had a 30-30-20 game.

There is also a very questionable possibility that he had a quint-double in 1968. We KNOW he scored 53 points (on 24-29 shooting), with 32 rebounds and 14 asisists. But there is a site that "estimated" that he also blocked 24 shots and had 11 steals. In any case, that 53-32-14 line may have been the most spectacular triple-double in NBA history.
Wow, 53/32/14 is already an all time stat line....such a shame they didn't record blocks. Who knows if that 24 and 11 is correct but even if it wasn't something like 53/32/14/8/4 could be the greatest game ever.

[bagelred]

More impressive feat: Triple double double or quadruple double?

Both delicious. Seriously, when you eat at Wendy's, you can't go wrong. :cheers:

[Johnni Gade]

Im losing track of the expressions 0_0

[monkeypox]

Well, in video games at least, I've gotten the quad double and was only 4 blocks from the quint. That was pretty hard and required horrible passing AI for all the passes. I've also gotten 10+ blocks before so I have to believe it's doable.

Seems like the triple double double might be easier to pull off since you only really need to be good at getting rebounds and have teammates that make their shots. If you had a system built around you, where everyone boxes out and you grab the rebound, and every possession has you passing to cutters and whatnot on offence, seems like it could be done.

Hmm... I might just have to go for both in 2k and see which one is harder... well in video games at least.

[hangintheair]

I know Shawn Bradley has one.

Here's the basketball-reference searches for modern era 20/20/10s

P/R/B http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=&match=game&year_min=&year_max=&age_min=0&age_max=99&team_id=&opp_id=&is_playoffs=&round_is_ec1=Y&round_is_ecs=Y&round_is_ecf=Y&round_is_wc1=Y&round_is_wcs=Y&round_is_wcf=Y&round_is_fin=Y&game_num_type=&game_num_min=&game_num_max=&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&is_starter=&is_active=&is_hof=&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=pts&c1comp=gt&c1val=20&c2stat=trb&c2comp=gt&c2val=20&c3stat=blk&c3comp=gt&c3val=10&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=pts
P/A/S None
P/R/A http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=&match=game&year_min=&year_max=&age_min=0&age_max=99&team_id=&opp_id=&is_playoffs=&round_is_ec1=Y&round_is_ecs=Y&round_is_ecf=Y&round_is_wc1=Y&round_is_wcs=Y&round_is_wcf=Y&round_is_fin=Y&game_num_type=&game_num_min=&game_num_max=&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&is_starter=&is_active=&is_hof=&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=pts&c1comp=gt&c1val=20&c2stat=trb&c2comp=gt&c2val=20&c3stat=ast&c3comp=gt&c3val=10&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=pts
P/A/R http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=&match=game&year_min=&year_max=&age_min=0&age_max=99&team_id=&opp_id=&is_playoffs=&round_is_ec1=Y&round_is_ecs=Y&round_is_ecf=Y&round_is_wc1=Y&round_is_wcs=Y&round_is_wcf=Y&round_is_fin=Y&game_num_type=&game_num_min=&game_num_max=&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&is_starter=&is_active=&is_hof=&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=pts&c1comp=gt&c1val=20&c2stat=ast&c2comp=gt&c2val=20&c3stat=trb&c3comp=gt&c3val=10&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=pts


Holy Shit.. Tim Duncan almost got a Quadruple Double(2 double double & 2 double).. 21pts/20rebs/10asts/8blocks.. :bowdown: :bowdown:

[Smoke117]

The quintuple double is more impressive.

[Freedom Kid7]

Has a 10/10/10/10/10 game ever happened?

[Jolokia]

20 blocks
20 steals
20 assists

[jlauber]

Has a 10/10/10/10/10 game ever happened?

Depends on the source. Wilt was credited with an "estimated 24 blocks and 11 steals" in a game in which he KNOWN to have scored 53 points, grab 32 rebounds, and hand out 14 assists.

[hotsizzle]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVDEredOCfA

Rondo almost got it. 18 pts/17 rebs/20 assts against the Knicks this year. Filthy performance.

[Hizack]

double-double: 10/10
Very common.

double double-double: 20/20
Fairly common.

triple double-double: 30/30
Kevin Love is the only guy who did this in the last 28 years.

triple-double: 10/10/10
Fairly common.

double triple-double: 20/20/20
Wilt Chamberlain.

triple triple-double: 30/30/30
Not even NBA 2K12.

quadruple-double: 10/10/10/10
Nate Thurmond, Alvin Robertson, Hakeem Olajuwon, David Robinson.
Wilt probably should have done this if blocks were recorded before 1973.

quintuple-double: 10/10/10/10/10
Again Wilt?

[SourPatchKids]

Krilenko had 5/5/5/5/5 two games in a row back in 06 or 07. And they weren't all 5's; some of them were in double digits (points and rebounds, IIRC).
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[ILLsmak]

Well, if it really is 20/20/20 vs. 10/10/10/10/10, I think I'd go with the latter. 10 points, 10 rebounds, 10 assists, 10 blocks, 10 steals? That'd be pretty filthy. However, if that was a mere syntax error and it's truly supposed to be 10/10/10/10, I suppose that makes things a little more interesting. We've heard and seen folks go for 20 and 20 on frequent occasions so on one hand, it seems like, "So it's just one more stat on top of the ones he's already picked up." However, stacking 20 assists on top of 20 points and 20 rebounds would be otherworldly.

Also, deciding which stat were more impressive (20/20/20 vs. 10/10/10/10) might depend upon which statistics were represented. What if we were looking at 20 points, 20 blocks, and 20 steals? Or say, 112 points, 10 rebounds, 39 blocks and 28 dunks?

http://i33.tinypic.com/qys1eb.jpg

haha

-Smak

[monkeypox]

Depends on the source. Wilt was credited with an "estimated 24 blocks and 11 steals" in a game in which he KNOWN to have scored 53 points, grab 32 rebounds, and hand out 14 assists.


Whoa, so you're saying he had the quintuple double and the double triple double in the same game?

[NumberSix]

Depends which player achieves which.

[Q.E.C]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/63280619@N07/7805201830/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/63280619@N07/7805201830/in/photostream/lightbox/

[jlauber]

Whoa, so you're saying he had the quintuple double and the double triple double in the same game?

Well, I am very suspicious of that source. Let's just say that using "estimated" anything leaves room for doubt.

Chamberlain does appear to have two double-triple-doubles in two different ways. A 22 point, 25 rebound, 21 assist game; and a 34 point, 33 rebound, 20 block game.

I believe Psileas claims that Chamberlain had some 20 quads in his career, but the problem with that last stat (blocks) is that they were "unofficial" despite the fact that score-keepers DID record them.

[KOBE143]

Chamberlain actually had TWO 20-20-20 games in his career, albeit one was "unofficial." He, of course had the 22 point, 25 rebound, 21 assist game in 1968. And then game recaps credited Wilt with 20 blocks (against Bellamy's team no less) in a game in 1962, in which he scored 34 points with 33 rebounds. So, I guess you could say he had a 30-30-20 game.

There is also a very questionable possibility that he had a quint-double in 1968. We KNOW he scored 53 points (on 24-29 shooting), with 32 rebounds and 14 asisists. But there is a site that "estimated" that he also blocked 24 shots and had 11 steals. In any case, that 53-32-14 line may have been the most spectacular triple-double in NBA history.
Weak era

Seriously Javale Mcgee will easily average quintuple double in that era something like 60/30/20/20/15

[dunksby]

Whoa, so you're saying he had the quintuple double and the double triple double in the same game?
53/32/14/24/11 another tall tale by jlau :applause:

[jlauber]

53/32/14/24/11 another tall tale by jlau :applause:

Well, not MY tall tale...

http://gorba77.w.interia.pl/

Scroll down and click on Wilt game logs (it will open up a spreadsheet with every one of Wilt's games.)

Check out game date on 3/18/1968.

[dunksby]

Well, not MY tall tale...

http://gorba77.w.interia.pl/

Scroll down and click on Wilt game logs (it will open up a spreadsheet with every one of Wilt's games.)

Check out game date on 3/18/1968.
Ok I did, but why should I believe that? I mean I could make one of those for Bill Russel too and post it on my website claiming in some random H2H with Wilt he had 45 blocks and 33 steals, are you gonna use it as a source too?

[jlauber]

Ok I did, but why should I believe that? I mean I could make one of those for Bill Russel too and post it on my website claiming in some random H2H with Wilt he had 45 blocks and 33 steals, are you gonna use it as a source too?

YOU, as a source. Not a chance.

[jlauber]

Ok I did, but why should I believe that? I mean I could make one of those for Bill Russel too and post it on my website claiming in some random H2H with Wilt he had 45 blocks and 33 steals, are you gonna use it as a source too?

BTW, most all of the recorded stats in that spreadsheet (and not the "estimated" ones) have been verified.

[jlauber]

Ok I did, but why should I believe that? I mean I could make one of those for Bill Russel too and post it on my website claiming in some random H2H with Wilt he had 45 blocks and 33 steals, are you gonna use it as a source too?

And, here is the most comprehensive, and confirmed, breakdown on the 143 Russell-Wilt H2H's that has ever been done...thanks to posters here BTW...

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aoy3YD7IdypTdEpOeFRwY29NRTUtWVlFWVJ5TkFDY 3c#gid=0

[Rubio2Gasol]

Dunno, depends on the pace of the game TBH.

[dunksby]

YOU, as a source. Not a chance.
Thank you, it seems like you still have some common sense in you, so don't blame me when I don't believe shady sources that you provide either. "Most of them have been verified" aint just gonna cut it.

[OmniStrife]

Just go ahead and boot up 2K12 and try to get each one.
Personaly I think 10/10/10/10/10 is harder.