View Full Version : So where is Wade now, all time?
BlueandGold
08-18-2012, 04:09 PM
He's got two championships and one as the clear-cut #1.
If I had to rank him I would put him in the top25.
Punpun
08-18-2012, 04:22 PM
Top 150 maybe.
Ikill
08-18-2012, 04:23 PM
Top 25
TheeBeast
08-18-2012, 04:25 PM
Top 25-30
TheMarkMadsen
08-18-2012, 04:32 PM
How long until this turns into a bunch of Lebron stans doing everything in their power to make Wade look as bad as humanly possible?
Id say top 25-30 though. 2 rings, 1 as the top dawg, the other as a 1b option. His 09 season was prolly his best. Can't see him climbing any higher unless he really comes to play in the playoffs next year.
If Lebron went down for a game or even a series & the HEAT were able to win due to Wade stepping up, he could cement a top 20 spot.
I give it 6 more post
EnoughSaid
08-18-2012, 04:36 PM
Top 25. If he can maybe have a couple of more good seasons of 24-25/5/5 on 50% along with more titles and maybe even a Finals MVP, he can make his way into that Top 15 area.
Lebron23
08-18-2012, 04:37 PM
Top 25 right now.
Freedom Kid7
08-18-2012, 04:39 PM
Top 25-30
Somewhere around here.
BlackVVaves
08-18-2012, 04:51 PM
Between 25 and 35.
swi7ch
08-18-2012, 04:52 PM
Top 100
longtime lurker
08-18-2012, 05:04 PM
Top 40.
KyrieTheFuture
08-18-2012, 05:46 PM
Top 1,000
Horatio33
08-18-2012, 06:06 PM
30-35. Too many injuries, not a long enough prime. No MVP's.
Jacks3
08-18-2012, 06:08 PM
Top 20.
Dictator
08-18-2012, 06:13 PM
Didn't ppl say Wade was second coming of Jordan? rofl :lol
blablabla
08-18-2012, 06:25 PM
30-35
ispin69
08-18-2012, 06:30 PM
Top 30-40 way too many better players ahead of him at all other positions
Young X
08-18-2012, 06:30 PM
Top 20.
How long until this turns into a bunch of Lebron stans doing everything in their power to make Wade look as bad as humanly possible?
Id say top 25-30 though. 2 rings, 1 as the top dawg, the other as a 1b option. His 09 season was prolly his best. Can't see him climbing any higher unless he really comes to play in the playoffs next year.
If Lebron went down for a game or even a series & the HEAT were able to win due to Wade stepping up, he could cement a top 20 spot.
I give it 6 more post
:roll:
MiamiThrice
08-18-2012, 07:47 PM
Wade is top 20. He is already the 2nd best SG of all-time after Jordan so top 20 is definetly where he fits in. Carried a team to a title with his 2nd option averaging 12 PPG in the Finals. Noone willed a team to a title more than Wade in 06. Best Finals series ever considering the circumstances, his cast, and what he had to overcome. With more titles and clutch performances he can climb the list.
His greatest competition for the 2nd best ever at the two-guard are kobe and west. West choked in the playoffs too much until he was on that stacked Lakers team where Wilt dominated. And Wade has the same rings as Kobe(The 00-02 rings dont count, those were Shaqs I could have won playing with him). Kobe was probably the best player on the 09 Lakers, but Gasol was better in 10. Wade was the best player on 2006 and 2nd best on 2012 so he is very similar to Kobe. Wades amazing 2006 Finals series puts him over Kobe. Kobe has not done anything in his entire career that is the same caliber as Wades 2006 Finals, the biggest stage in basketball.
kennethgriffin
08-18-2012, 07:56 PM
tony parker has 3 titles and 1 as clear cut #1
wade will never make the top 20 all time without a season mvp or atleast allot of 1st team's
hes got neither
1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
3. Wilt Chamberlain
4. Bill Russell
5. Magic Johnson
6. Larry Bird
7. Shaquille Oneal
8. Tim Duncan
9. Hakeem Olajuwon
10. Kobe Bryant
11. LeBron James
12. Moses Malone
13. Jerry West
14. Oscar Robertson
15. Julius Erving
16. Karl Malone
17. Charles Barkley
18. Kevin Garnett
19. Dirk Nowitzki
20. David Robinson
21. Elgin Baylor
22. Isiah Thomas
23. Bob Pettit
24. John Havlicek
25. George Mikan
26. Rick Barry
27. Bob Cousy
28. Dwyane Wade <---------
29. James Worthy
30. Scottie Pippen
BlueandGold
08-18-2012, 08:06 PM
I would say top25 as well, I already have him above Rick Parry, Pippen, Pettit and maybe cousy and worthy with a few more seasons averaging the numbers he normally does, so actually Wade is near the top20 if you take all those players out of the equation.
CardiacKemba
08-18-2012, 08:23 PM
I have him just outside top 25 at the moment. If he can avoid more injuries though and the Heat get a few more titles, he can move into the top 20 IMO. His peak is pretty dam high.
:rolleyes:
Hakeem/Kobe is very close, you could switch places if you so wish and have Kobe above (i do that some time aswell going back n forth), its very debatable going by various criterias, its an acquired taste... trust me... i can show you what i mean if you wish
As far as Lebron goes, yes he deserves to be right behind Hakeem and Kobe at around 11-12-13.. but that doesnt mean he is extremly close to Hakeem/Kobe in terms of career accomplishments, there is still a gap... but more like that it certainly means he had a better career than the usual #11-#12 all-time players like Moses Malone for example.... take a look:
Award:.........................Moses.............. ...Lebron.........
MVP................................3.............. ..........3.............
FMVP...............................1.............. ..........1............
CHAMP.............................1............... .........1 (a greater championship run mind you)
ROTY..............................No.............. ........Yes.............
DPOY..............................No.............. ........No.............
1st All-NBA.......................4....................... .6..............
1st All-Def........................1...................... ..4..............
NBA All-Star.....................12....................... 8..............
All-Star MVP......................0........................ 2..............
Olympic Gold.....................0........................ 2..............
POTM................................4............. ..........20............
Was best in the NBA?.......Never....................Yes........... .
You may not be so fond of this mr James guy... but he indeed belongs there right next to Moses, nowhere else...
catquickspider
08-18-2012, 09:51 PM
I am debating if I should put him above Bennet Salvatore or not
Vertical-24
08-18-2012, 09:59 PM
Didn't ppl say Wade was second coming of Jordan? rofl :lol
Didn't ppl say Kobe was the second coming of Jordan? Rofl :lol
EnoughSaid
08-18-2012, 10:01 PM
Didn't ppl say Kobe was the second coming of Jordan? Rofl :lol
Well we'll always remember Wade as a better Finals performer than Kobe. :bowdown:
Vertical-24
08-18-2012, 10:09 PM
I don't see how the two are comparable nor is it laughable? :biggums: :facepalm :hammerhead: :banghead:
Do my laundry, nerd.
Legends66NBA7
08-18-2012, 10:09 PM
Top 25.
Not sure where he's going to rank for the future, hopefully he doesn't tail off.
CarlosBoozer
08-18-2012, 10:11 PM
Well we'll always remember Wade as a better Finals performer than Kobe. :bowdown:
Zing! :banana:
EnoughSaid
08-18-2012, 10:11 PM
I actually think Wade has a chance to win another Finals' MVP.
CarlosBoozer
08-18-2012, 10:12 PM
I actually think Wade has a chance to win another Finals' MVP.
If he's healthy and his jump shot is finally consistent!
Rubio2Gasol
08-18-2012, 10:15 PM
Why are Magic Shaq and Tim Duncan ahead of Hakeem?
Legends66NBA7
08-18-2012, 10:23 PM
I actually think Wade has a chance to win another Finals' MVP.
Can't see it happening and really that means James would have to have a deja vu of the 2011 Finals...
Why are Magic Shaq and Tim Duncan ahead of Hakeem?
It's not absurd to think all 3 are above him (it's close between Duncan and Hakeem for me).
EnoughSaid
08-18-2012, 10:25 PM
Can't see it happening and really that means James would have to have a deja vu of the 2011 Finals...
Or maybe Wade gets hot for a stretch of games, and has a better match up in the Finals. It all depends on who they face and how they are going into the Finals.
Deuce Bigalow
08-18-2012, 10:29 PM
Well we'll always remember Wade as a better Finals performer than Kobe. :bowdown:
Against the weak Mavs defense :applause:
The one when Kobe was in his prime outscored the entire team by himself in 3 quarters
We will always remember that Kobe has more rings than the Miami Heat franchise :bowdown:
Legends66NBA7
08-18-2012, 10:49 PM
Or maybe Wade gets hot for a stretch of games, and has a better match up in the Finals. It all depends on who they face and how they are going into the Finals.
Hmm.. maybe.
And who they face.... only one guy I want Wade to go one on one with in the Finals:
http://www.slamdunkcentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Dwyane-Wade-Kobe-Bryant.jpg
We've seen Bron vs Durant and while both look like their on the downside of their career, it would still be the best SG matchup since Drexler vs Jordan.
For what it's worth, it's still a matchup fans want to see. I wouldn't know who to root for, since I like both their styles.
KOBE143
08-18-2012, 11:02 PM
He's always rank 1 spot higher than Lebrick for sure..
I rank him 50..
Against the weak Mavs defense :applause:
The one when Kobe was in his prime outscored the entire team by himself in 3 quarters
We will always remember that Kobe has more rings than the Miami Heat franchise :bowdown:
What did Kobrick do versus the Mavs in the 2011 playoffs?
Deuce Bigalow
08-18-2012, 11:17 PM
What did Kobrick do versus the Mavs in the 2011 playoffs?
What did Wade do vs the Bulls in the 2011 Playoffs?
What did Wade do vs the Bulls in the 2011 Playoffs?
I thought we were taking about the Mavs tho? Since they're so soft surely Gawde should have dominated his matchup in 2011.
Deuce Bigalow
08-18-2012, 11:32 PM
I thought we were taking about the Mavs tho? Since they're so soft surely Gawde should have dominated his matchup in 2011.
I was talking about '06. The '06 Mavs.
I actually think Wade has a chance to win another Finals' MVP.
Sidekicks don't win FMVPs
Vragrant
08-18-2012, 11:59 PM
Against the weak Mavs defense :applause:
The one when Kobe was in his prime outscored the entire team by himself in 3 quarters
We will always remember that Kobe has more rings than the Miami Heat franchise :bowdown:
Kobe would also have to go through the mid 00's Pistons to face those same Mavs' teams. Kobe always stunk against the Pistons and Tayshaun Prince owned him defensively. Wade put up 27ppg on 62% shooting.
To be honest if Bryant was on those teams its not a sure thing they even get to the Finals. Wade's ECF that year was arguably more dominant than his Finals performance.
I thought we were taking about the Mavs tho? Since they're so soft surely Gawde should have dominated his matchup in 2011.
He's talking about the 06 Mavs. You know, the team "Lawd Gawdbe" couldn't face because he couldn't get pass the legendary defense of the Mike Antoni Suns :lol 35 PPG in regular season....27 PPG against the lockdown defense of Steve Nash and Amar'e Stoudemire:roll: :roll: :roll:
Deuce Bigalow
08-19-2012, 12:12 AM
He's talking about the 06 Mavs. You know, the team "Lawd Gawdbe" couldn't face because he couldn't get pass the legendary defense of the Mike Antoni Suns :lol 35 PPG in regular season....27 PPG against the lockdown defense of Steve Nash and Amar'e Stoudemire:roll: :roll: :roll:
Yeah because when he did drop 50 his team won, and in the regular season when he dropped 50+ his team won against the Suns :rolleyes:
Kobe would also have to go through the mid 00's Pistons to face those same Mavs' teams. Kobe always stunk against the Pistons and Tayshaun Prince owned him defensively. Wade put up 27ppg on 62% shooting.
To be honest if Bryant was on those teams its not a sure thing they even get to the Finals. Wade's ECF that year was arguably more dominant than his Finals performance.
Wade's 2006 ECF performance is one of the more overlooked performances of all time. 27-6-5 on 62% shooting. Good lord. :bowdown:
Heavincent
08-19-2012, 12:14 AM
Top 50.
G-Funk
08-19-2012, 01:13 AM
25-35
LA_Showtime
08-19-2012, 01:17 AM
The more I watch Wade the more I think his position in history is just about right. I used to think he was criminally overrated but I'm beginning to question whether his game was ever as good as I thought it was post 2006 Finals.
LongLiveTheKing
08-19-2012, 01:39 AM
I actually think Wade has a chance to win another Finals' MVP.
I can see him winning another FMVP, just imagine him having another 2006 like finals performance and Lebron finding him open. D-Wade should be 20-25 his 2006 finals was an all-time performance, he's put up good stats, especially 08-09.
DMAVS41
08-19-2012, 02:06 AM
Hmmmm....
Career 25/5/6 guy in the regular season
Career 25/6/5 guy in the playoffs
2 titles and a finals mvp.
Longevity is the only thing holding him back really...oh, and not having an mvp.
I'd say top 20 the way people value titles. Wade really got screwed by Lebron in the 11 finals. Right now Wade should have 3 titles and 2 finals mvp's and he'd be knocking at the door of the top 10. Crazy how fragile moments in time like that are. Wade will most likely end up somewhere in the top 20....probably top 15 if the Heat win a couple more, but missing out on a title and finals mvp really set his legacy back.
TheMan
08-19-2012, 02:08 AM
40-45, short prime, no MVP, injury issues and a bit overrated...and he goes down in my list for his prodigious flop artistry and being a whinny little ****.
Other than that, he's solid:D
scandisk_
08-19-2012, 02:30 AM
Top 30 IMO
His antics on-court dropped him 5-10 spots :pimp:
HiphopRelated
08-19-2012, 10:05 AM
Hmmmm....
Career 25/5/6 guy in the regular season
Career 25/6/5 guy in the playoffs
2 titles and a finals mvp.
Longevity is the only thing holding him back really...oh, and not having an mvp.
I'd say top 20 the way people value titles. Wade really got screwed by Lebron in the 11 finals. Right now Wade should have 3 titles and 2 finals mvp's and he'd be knocking at the door of the top 10. Crazy how fragile moments in time like that are. Wade will most likely end up somewhere in the top 20....probably top 15 if the Heat win a couple more, but missing out on a title and finals mvp really set his legacy back.
basically
Ikill
08-19-2012, 10:26 AM
Sidekicks don't win FMVPs
A healthy Wade about 2011 level is only slightly worse than current Lebron they would be on the same tier. A healthy Wade with a consistent jumpshot is pretty much good as Lebron arguably better. Wade could easily outplay Lebron for one series he could probably outplay for an entire postseason.
Ikill
08-19-2012, 10:28 AM
A good regular season 2011 like with a great postseason while winning a ring puts him in the top 15.
Alan Shore
08-19-2012, 10:40 AM
his statistics make him look like a very strong player. his FG% is respectable. his TS% is a little less than respectable. good number of assists for his humongous usage rate. when he has set his mind to it he can be a terrific defender which i think gets overlooked a bit.
but he and a few other players are clearly stern-manufactured superstars. he came along at just the right time when the league really went downhill in terms of quality basketball, with few exceptions. and does he make others better? i don't see much of that at all from him and that's a turnoff in a team sport, assist totals notwithstanding. (see marbury and iverson.)
he get's to the line a lot but he is getting stern superstar calls all career long. also the amount of palming and traveling he has gotten away with is a turnoff, another stern-inspired degeneration of the rules of the game for the sake of marketing the league as a product. the pinnacle of this ludicrousness was his 2006 title, which was handed to him in a disgusting and enabling fashion and that's always going to be hanging over his reputation.
basketball purists will have him outside the top 20 and probably closer to top 30-35.
franchiez
08-19-2012, 11:18 AM
Top 25, more rings will help.
DirtySanchez
08-19-2012, 11:23 AM
He is some where chilling with skinny pants and a tight shirt
30-35 right now
If he has a few more good years with a couple of more titles to his resume, I think he will sit at 25. Top 20 if he really rocks out.
I say he is the 4 greatest sg all-time. Behind mj,Kobe, and west, I guess I will put him over iverson but ai has done a lot in the league that dwade could only dream about
TheBigVeto
08-19-2012, 08:01 PM
Number 26 on all time SG list.
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