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poido123
08-19-2012, 09:00 PM
Anyone else here believe Lebron will only win one ring his entire career? Barring any ring chasing, its not far-fetched to suggest that Lebron's championship last year will be his last.

Lakers look the team to beat this year and next, Thunder not far behind with another year of experience, and a revamped/rejuvenated Boston team who will certainly cause some headaches to Heat in the east.

The heat team right now, is not going to beat the Lakers team at full health. They have height, they have playmaking ability, they have star power, they have a defensive anchor, and they have some decent shooters. Lakers are the team to beat and all those heat bandwagoners who jumped on that ship will have to be satisfied with one chip, and not the 8 or so that Lebron promised :pimp:

ganja0710
08-19-2012, 09:04 PM
i aint no heat fan. and to be honest, i still dont like lebron at all but you're dumb as hell if you dont think the dude wont win another ring.

Rubio2Gasol
08-19-2012, 09:05 PM
Rondo led Celtics dynasty is coming and you suckers don't even see it.

Hittin_Shots
08-19-2012, 09:07 PM
Rondo led Celtics dynasty is coming and you suckers don't even see it.

Lebron will jump on board.

poido123
08-19-2012, 09:10 PM
Rondo led Celtics dynasty is coming and you suckers don't even see it.

:lol I dont disagree with you, Celtics have a very good chance of winning it this year, although they would struggle to contain Howard enough if they were to face the Lakers...

raprap
08-19-2012, 09:10 PM
Its not impossible.

fsvr54
08-19-2012, 09:12 PM
Maybe coming off the bench when he's 40.

JaggerCommaMick
08-19-2012, 09:14 PM
i aint no heat fan. and to be honest, i still dont like lebron at all but you're dumb as hell if you dont think the dude wont win another ring.


He's been the best player in the league for about the past 5 seasons mate and he's only been on one title team. It's not ridiculous to conceive that he may not be on another. One player can't do everything, mate. Championships are team accomplishments, not individual ones, despite what Kobe stans desperately want to believe in order to make Kobe's legacy look more accomplished.

As it is, the Lakers look better on paper this year. Suppose Wade or Bosh get hurt next year going into the playoffs. Suppose after that Wade starts slowing down significantly, or they don't have as good a cast of support players they had this year.

Any number of things can happen. Certainly there is a good chance Lebron will be on another title team because of how dominant he is, but the idea that he won't be is certainly plausible. It is with any individual player in the league.

Lebron23
08-19-2012, 09:14 PM
Miami's core are still young.

LBJ is 27, Bosh is 28, Wade is 30, and Chalmers is 26.

BuffaloBill
08-19-2012, 09:17 PM
He'll retire with at least 3 rings and 3 FMVPs. I think he'll win maybe 1 or 2 more MVPs

All Net
08-19-2012, 09:17 PM
He can certainly win more but the window isn't as clear cut as it was due to L.A's re-tooling.

b1imtf
08-19-2012, 09:18 PM
Miami's core are still young.

LBJ is 27, Bosh is 28, Wade is 30, and Chalmers is 26.
Chalmers' 26?

poido123
08-19-2012, 09:19 PM
Miami's core are still young.

LBJ is 27, Bosh is 28, Wade is 30, and Chalmers is 26.

You might wanna leave Wade out of the "young" core

Add two years to all those players, which is when I think the Lakers might fall off a bit, then you have all those players on the backend of their primes, and Wade a shadow of what he used to be.

All Net
08-19-2012, 09:21 PM
You might wanna leave Wade out of the "young" core

Add two years to all those players, which is when I think the Lakers might fall off a bit, then you have all those players on the backend of their primes, and Wade a shadow of what he used to be.

Not sure what Miami's salary looks like long term but at least when L.A do fall off in say 2 years there will be cap space to re-tool.

NumberSix
08-19-2012, 09:23 PM
It's very possible, sure. My estimation is about 3 championships, but only 1 is entirely possible.

ganja0710
08-19-2012, 09:24 PM
He's been the best player in the league for about the past 5 seasons mate and he's only been on one title team. It's not ridiculous to conceive that he may not be on another. One player can't do everything, mate. Championships are team accomplishments, not individual ones, despite what Kobe stans desperately want to believe in order to make Kobe's legacy look more accomplished.
mate, do you know what teams that the heat will have to go through next season, and quite sadly, probably for the next 3 seasons? a much older Celtic core? without ray? not gonna get it done. Bulls? no chance. Knicks? no. Maybe philly. im not sold on brooklyn. it really should be a cake walk to the finals for next few years.


As it is, the Lakers look better on paper this year. Suppose Wade or Bosh get hurt next year going into the playoffs. Suppose after that Wade starts slowing down significantly, or they don't have as good a cast of support players they had this year.

and suppose dwight wont be the same again because of his back? suppose kobe doesnt fully support his role as a 2nd option now. suppose they have chemistry issues as a team considering its their first year with a completely different look in their line up.

miami has their chemistry on point. everybody knows their role. and proved they could get it done without much depth in their fromt court.

tmacattack33
08-19-2012, 09:24 PM
Anyone else here believe Lebron will only win one ring his entire career? Barring any ring chasing, its not far-fetched to suggest that Lebron's championship last year will be his last.

Lakers look the team to beat this year and next, Thunder not far behind with another year of experience, and a revamped/rejuvenated Boston team who will certainly cause some headaches to Heat in the east.

The heat team right now, is not going to beat the Lakers team at full health. They have height, they have playmaking ability, they have star power, they have a defensive anchor, and they have some decent shooters. Lakers are the team to beat and all those heat bandwagoners who jumped on that ship will have to be satisfied with one chip, and not the 8 or so that Lebron promised :pimp:

:lol

Jason Terry can not make up for Allen's departure + another year of Pierce slowing down + another year of KG slowing down.

longtime lurker
08-19-2012, 09:26 PM
It's not inconceivable that Lebron could only win one championship, but 3 finals appearances don't show that he will probably have many more cracks at it.

poido123
08-19-2012, 09:27 PM
He'll retire with at least 3 rings and 3 FMVPs. I think he'll win maybe 1 or 2 more MVPs

And who is the Heat beating to do this? They are not getting past the Lakers with their lineup. They will get smashed inside, Howard and Gasol will eat Miami. Then you have Kobe and Nash causing havoc, while the heat defenders scramble to plug up their bigman difficiency. You have a totally different animal with Dwight paired with Kobe, instead of bynum and kobe. And even if the Heat find a solution to contain Howard, they have Gasol picking off the scraps down low if needed. You cant stop this team, it is too dominant. I call this the definition of a "superteam".

Hittin_Shots
08-19-2012, 09:29 PM
:lol

Jason Terry can not make up for Allen's departure + another year of Pierce slowing down + another year of KG slowing down.

He can make up for the bone spur Allen of the playoffs though, and a bench can make up for the no bench last season.

DKLaker
08-19-2012, 09:29 PM
Anyone else here believe Lebron will only win one ring his entire career? Barring any ring chasing, its not far-fetched to suggest that Lebron's championship last year will be his last.

Lakers look the team to beat this year and next, Thunder not far behind with another year of experience, and a revamped/rejuvenated Boston team who will certainly cause some headaches to Heat in the east.

The heat team right now, is not going to beat the Lakers team at full health. They have height, they have playmaking ability, they have star power, they have a defensive anchor, and they have some decent shooters. Lakers are the team to beat and all those heat bandwagoners who jumped on that ship will have to be satisfied with one chip, and not the 8 or so that Lebron promised :pimp:

He may get 1 more tops.

poido123
08-19-2012, 09:30 PM
:lol

Jason Terry can not make up for Allen's departure + another year of Pierce slowing down + another year of KG slowing down.

Avery Bradley, Jeff Green, Jason Terry, Courtney Lee, replacing Ray Allen is the reason the celtics will be harder to beat this year..Ray allen was a shell of himself, and the celtics without any of these players took miami to 7, with help from these players, im sure they would of beat them.

Lebron23
08-19-2012, 09:35 PM
A healthy Miami Heat team beat the Celtics in 5 games back in 2011. It will be the Heat vs. Sixers in the conference Finals this season. Kobe won his first Finals MVP when he was 31 yrs.old. I am sure LeBron will win a couple of NBA Championships in the near future.

ganja0710
08-19-2012, 09:36 PM
And who is the Heat beating to do this? They are not getting past the Lakers with their lineup. They will get smashed inside, Howard and Gasol will eat Miami. Then you have Kobe and Nash causing havoc, while the heat defenders scramble to plug up their bigman difficiency. You have a totally different animal with Dwight paired with Kobe, instead of bynum and kobe. And even if the Heat find a solution to contain Howard, they have Gasol picking off the scraps down low if needed. You cant stop this team, it is too dominant. I call this the definition of a "superteam".
uh, because the lakers core at the moment is definitely a long term one. :rolleyes: wake up. what happens 2-3 year down the road when these guys hit their mid 30's and their point guard hits 40? kobe hits his what? 18th year? gasol turns 35, nash is 40, kobe's 36-37. while the heat core are entering their early 30's. get your homer glasses off. heat may not get it done next year, as all of you guys are sold on LA, but they easily have a better chance than LA the year after next and the year after next.

Hittin_Shots
08-19-2012, 09:36 PM
A healthy Miami Heat team beat the Celtics in 5 games back in 2011. It will be the Heat vs. Sixers in the conference Finals this season.

Was big baby Davis our starting centre because the other two were injured?

Did that Whiney bitch wade break rondos elbow?

HylianNightmare
08-19-2012, 09:37 PM
he will get at least 6 or 7, in a couple seasons the lakers will only have dwight howard cause gasol nash and kobe are old, then after that they will destroy the knicks, spurs, bulls, celtics, thunder anyone.

All Net
08-19-2012, 09:37 PM
uh, because the lakers core at the moment is definitely a long term one. :rolleyes: wake up. what happens 2-3 year down the road when these guys hit their mid 30's and their point guard hits 40? kobe hits his what? 18th year? gasol turns 35, nash is 40, kobe's 36-37. while the heat core are entering their early 30's. get your homer glasses off. heat may not get it done next year, as all of you guys are sold on LA, but they easily have a better chance than LA the year after next and the year after next.

Plenty of cap space.

Predicting what happens 3 years down the line is impossible. Just look what happened with L.A this summer. Nobody saw that coming.

fpliii
08-19-2012, 09:41 PM
I peg him for 2 more, maaaaaybe 3

in order to win more rings than that, you need multiple cores with multiple superstars, minimal competition, and matchup advantages

poido123
08-19-2012, 09:41 PM
He can certainly win more but the window isn't as clear cut as it was due to L.A's re-tooling.

He could win more I agree, as far as the competition and teams getting better, I dont know where he is going to get another from, unless the Heat adds a decent centre then they could compete with Lakers...

All Net
08-19-2012, 09:44 PM
He could win more I agree, as far as the competition and teams getting better, I dont know where he is going to get another from, unless the Heat adds a decent centre then they could compete with Lakers...

I think he will get more if Thunder beat L.A this year. They just match-up very well with OKC.

longtime lurker
08-19-2012, 09:45 PM
he will get at least 6 or 7, in a couple seasons the lakers will only have dwight howard cause gasol nash and kobe are old, then after that they will destroy the knicks, spurs, bulls, celtics, thunder anyone.

So you think Lebron will be winning championships possibly when he's 35? I don't expect Bosh to last that long and I sure as hell don't expect Wade to last that long either.

poido123
08-19-2012, 09:46 PM
uh, because the lakers core at the moment is definitely a long term one. :rolleyes: wake up. what happens 2-3 year down the road when these guys hit their mid 30's and their point guard hits 40? kobe hits his what? 18th year? gasol turns 35, nash is 40, kobe's 36-37. while the heat core are entering their early 30's. get your homer glasses off. heat may not get it done next year, as all of you guys are sold on LA, but they easily have a better chance than LA the year after next and the year after next.

FYI Im a staunch Bulls fan. Just calling how I see it.


When the Lakers window closes, you will have other teams who will be contenders, who will be faster stronger and younger than the Heat..Yes, I do believe Heat and Lebron won their last ring last year.

Lebron23
08-19-2012, 09:47 PM
I think Lebron will have the same longevity of a Karl Malone. Both are build like a tank. I will be a very happy fan if LeBron wins at least 4-5 NBA Championships.

ganja0710
08-19-2012, 09:48 PM
Plenty of cap space.

Predicting what happens 3 years down the line is impossible. Just look what happened with L.A this summer. Nobody saw that coming.
to get who? who's gonna pair up with dwight howard down the line that could compete with a prime LeBron James and Chris Bosh? wade as well if he can stay healthy. almost every appealing superstar in the league is locked up for the next 4-5 years. it's literally gonna be a mix of LAL (i give em this year a great chance to win a ring, and going downhill from there), oklahoma city and miami battling out in the next 4 years.

Lebron23
08-19-2012, 09:48 PM
FYI Im a staunch Bulls fan. Just calling how I see it.


When the Lakers window closes, you will have other teams who will be contenders, who will be faster stronger and younger than the Heat..Yes, I do believe Heat and Lebron won their last ring last year.


Jordan was 28 yrs.old when he won his first NBA Finals MVP. As long as Riley is the Heat's Gm. He will surround LBJ and Wade with a good supporting casts. Riley is the King Maker. LBJ is now playing on a big market team. It's much easier to recruit some NBA players if your GM is a proven winner and champion.

WockaVodka
08-19-2012, 09:48 PM
I think he'll win another but it's entirely possible. I think he is too good to just win one though.

ganja0710
08-19-2012, 09:50 PM
FYI Im a staunch Bulls fan. Just calling how I see it.


When the Lakers window closes, you will have other teams who will be contenders, who will be faster stronger and younger than the Heat..Yes, I do believe Heat and Lebron won their last ring last year.

:rolleyes:

poido123
08-19-2012, 09:52 PM
I think he will get more if Thunder beat L.A this year. They just match-up very well with OKC.

I agree IF that happens...westbrook and nash almost a wash, harden and kobe almost a wash, durant over MWP by long way, gasol over ibaka, and howard over perkins by long way..then you have bench of both teams who are about the same.

I think Lakers will beat OKC, better decision makers, better post play, and will have better options to go to in the fourth quarter.

All Net
08-19-2012, 09:58 PM
to get who? who's gonna pair up with dwight howard down the line that could compete with a prime LeBron James and Chris Bosh? wade as well if he can stay healthy. almost every appealing superstar in the league is locked up for the next 4-5 years. it's literally gonna be a mix of LAL (i give em this year a great chance to win a ring, and going downhill from there), oklahoma city and miami battling out in the next 4 years.

As I said who knows what happens 2-2 years down the line. Dwight plus a bunch of good support players will still be a threat. We also don't know who Miami would add and how a 33 year old Wade ages....Lakers will always compete for obvious reasons.

KyrieTheFuture
08-19-2012, 10:16 PM
The Lakers have 2 years to win. That is it in my opinion. Age will be too large a factor after that. LeBron has the ability to win several more rings and to suggest he will only win one is rather ridiculous. I think he wins 2 maybe 3 more as the Alpha and then later in his career, he bulks up even more and plays PF as a 2 or 3 option. We know he's unselfish so I honestly could see him taking a back seat later in his career (and we know he's not opposed to leaving teams for a chance at a ring)

alleykat
08-19-2012, 10:26 PM
nobody ever thinks of them to win.....people thought they would get destroyed by the thunder....

reality is tho that they come from the eastern conference, which in most people's minds is already a nod against them...

swag2011
08-19-2012, 10:43 PM
C'mon OP i hope you're not a Lakers fan, that'll suck if Lakers lose and this thread gets bumped lol.

But i see Lebron getting like 2 more. With this team at least. It's hard to tell his longevity now, but D.Wade isn't getting any younger. And until i see otherwise, he's declining based on last season. He'll be 31 in January and like 33 or 34 when his contract is up right? So he'll be Kobe's age minus the shooting ability, with loss of athleticism. How's that gunna work out?

Is Pat gunna surround Lebron with enough talent, if he stays in Miami? Anyway i always envisioned Lebron winning 3 rings for some reason. But it is entirely possible for him to just have 1 ring. The Lakers are only built for 2/3 years. Thunder is built for like 7 or 8 years, NY may get better, Boston may get better some dark horse teams might get better. So who knows

DixieNourmous
08-19-2012, 10:44 PM
Lebron will jump on board.

:lol

TheBigVeto
08-19-2012, 10:55 PM
I think Lebron will have the same longevity of a Karl Malone. Both are build like a tank.

True but does Lebron train like Karl Malone?

TheBigVeto
08-19-2012, 10:56 PM
Yes it's possible and if that happens, people will compare him to Moses Malone instead of Jordan.

BoutPractice
08-20-2012, 04:07 AM
Unlikely. Miami is a huge favorite this year, and he's in that moment of his prime where there's good separation between him and the next best player.
His dominance can help offset any potential matchup issue against a tall team like the Lakers, the Heat have too much athleticism, aggression and the diversity of weapons required to force the Lakers to play their game instead of the other way around.

Then if he doesn't win another one after that, I can picture him ring chasing at the end of his career anyway so he gets at the very least 2.

bdreason
08-20-2012, 04:25 AM
I think LeBron has really turned the corner. I'm not sure how much his game will improve, but he's playing so confident and really enjoying playing ball now. I think the Heat are probably the favorite heading into this next season, even with the Lakers acquisitions. LeBron is going to have a monster year, so I think just comes down to how well Wade, Bosh, and the rest of the cast can perform.

poido123
08-20-2012, 04:27 AM
Last year, things fell Miami's way. They had Bulls out in the first round so their only real competition was the celtics, who we all know took them to 7 games. Then they had OKC, who had their first finals appearance, and lacked composure and experience in the finals, much like the heat the year before.

This Year, they will have Bulls to contend with(assuming Rose is healthy again), they will have Celtics who replaced Allen, with Courtnee Lee, Jason Terry. Plus they will have Jeff Green and Avery Bradley, which they didnt have when they faced the heat. The Pacers will be better, a young team getting older and more experienced. They will have Philadelphia who just acquired Bynum, so the East is looking alot tougher now, and not a cakewalk like it was last year(except Celtics).

poido123
08-20-2012, 04:36 AM
I think LeBron has really turned the corner. I'm not sure how much his game will improve, but he's playing so confident and really enjoying playing ball now. I think the Heat are probably the favorite heading into this next season, even with the Lakers acquisitions. LeBron is going to have a monster year, so I think just comes down to how well Wade, Bosh, and the rest of the cast can perform.

Do you think a core of Wade, Lebron, Bosh and Allen, is better than a core of Nash, Kobe, Gasol and Howard? I dont think so. Plus there is more balance to the Lakers team, they can use their size to bully Miami, if Kobe and Nash arent tearing them up. Miami doesnt really have that flexibility, they will have to rely entirely on good ball movement, and scrambling defense hoping that the player they pay least attention to is having a bad day. Lets not forget, The Lakers consist of 4 weapons, all 4 are capable of scoring 20+ a game, and can rip a team apart if left open either in the paint or from the outside. Miami has that, but they are all guards, if you want to count Lebron he is technically a forward, that plays like a guard. So Miami are limited to guard play essentially, and this is what will be the telling factor when the two Lakers forwards eat miamis front line.

poido123
08-20-2012, 04:50 AM
Unlikely. Miami is a huge favorite this year, and he's in that moment of his prime where there's good separation between him and the next best player.
His dominance can help offset any potential matchup issue against a tall team like the Lakers, the Heat have too much athleticism, aggression and the diversity of weapons required to force the Lakers to play their game instead of the other way around.

Then if he doesn't win another one after that, I can picture him ring chasing at the end of his career anyway so he gets at the very least 2.

I see your point. They are still lacking bigmen though, and this may be the biggest problem when they take on someone like the Lakers, who have two very good big men, and a very good passer who will get them the ball in the right spots.

EllEffEll
08-20-2012, 08:01 AM
uh, because the lakers core at the moment is definitely a long term one. :rolleyes: wake up. what happens 2-3 year down the road when these guys hit their mid 30's and their point guard hits 40? kobe hits his what? 18th year? gasol turns 35, nash is 40, kobe's 36-37. while the heat core are entering their early 30's. get your homer glasses off. heat may not get it done next year, as all of you guys are sold on LA, but they easily have a better chance than LA the year after next and the year after next.

:facepalm @ poido123 with Laker homer glasses

:biggums:

He would have to have to have suffered a major blow to the skull to ever be a Laker homer.

I was gonna give you the benefit of the doubt for being new around here, but you've been here for three years. I'm not sure if his rage/hate is for KB or for the Lakers specifically, but he is anything but a Laker homer. He's generally a pretty lucid poster when his rage/hate for the Lakers is tempered a bit :pimp:

I was actually a little surprised to see him as the OP to this thread.


miami has their chemistry on point. everybody knows their role. and proved they could get it done without much depth in their fromt court.

Miami's grasp on their 'chemistry' is hardly solid, especially with regards to the coaching position.

They proved they could win in the finals against against another team without much depth in the front court.

================

As for the OP, I think LBJ turned a corner this year, not just for the fact that he finally won a championship, but for the way he helped to win the championship. I feel like he finally learned what it takes to be 'the man' on a championship team and won't be surprised to see him win again.

Now, if he would just lose those dorky eyeglass frames with no lenses that make him (or anyone else that wears them) look stupid rather than smart. . . . . He may as well complete the ensemble with braces and a beanie-copter :confusedshrug:

Nero Tulip
08-20-2012, 08:04 AM
Miami is basically in the finals already. The East is the toilet of the NBA, and it's getting worse every year. All they need is that the Western team chokes like OKC and they'll get a win. They could easily get a couple more.

pauk
08-20-2012, 09:13 AM
Anyone else here believe Lebron will only win one ring his entire career? Barring any ring chasing, its not far-fetched to suggest that Lebron's championship last year will be his last.

Lakers look the team to beat this year and next, Thunder not far behind with another year of experience, and a revamped/rejuvenated Boston team who will certainly cause some headaches to Heat in the east.

The heat team right now, is not going to beat the Lakers team at full health. They have height, they have playmaking ability, they have star power, they have a defensive anchor, and they have some decent shooters. Lakers are the team to beat and all those heat bandwagoners who jumped on that ship will have to be satisfied with one chip, and not the 8 or so that Lebron promised :pimp:

Promised? When the hell did Lebron promise 8 championships??? :roll:

Are you maybe confusing the answer to the question "Did you guys come together to win one championship?" "Yes, but Not 1... not 2, not 3, not 4............ No but if we take care of our business we truly believe we can win multiple championships"

:facepalm

Kobe 4 The Win
08-20-2012, 09:22 AM
Lebron is just now coming into his own. I see him winning at least 1 or 2 more. I just Hope LA can win it this coming year.

Optimus Prime
08-20-2012, 09:25 AM
Unless the East stops sucking the Heat will be mainstays in the Finals for the next few years. Lebron will probably win another ring but it won't happen while Kobe is going to win 6, 7 and 8.

:kobe:

riseagainst
08-20-2012, 09:36 AM
Rondo led Celtics dynasty is coming and you suckers don't even see it.

Rondo statline prediction: 20-6-16 on 48% :rockon:

LBJDW305
08-20-2012, 09:43 AM
All these laker fans forgot so quickly who the best player in the game is...

riseagainst
08-20-2012, 10:10 AM
He's been the best player in the league for about the past 5 seasons mate and he's only been on one title team. It's not ridiculous to conceive that he may not be on another. One player can't do everything, mate. Championships are team accomplishments, not individual ones, despite what Kobe stans desperately want to believe in order to make Kobe's legacy look more accomplished.

As it is, the Lakers look better on paper this year. Suppose Wade or Bosh get hurt next year going into the playoffs. Suppose after that Wade starts slowing down significantly, or they don't have as good a cast of support players they had this year.

Any number of things can happen. Certainly there is a good chance Lebron will be on another title team because of how dominant he is, but the idea that he won't be is certainly plausible. It is with any individual player in the league.

:lol
why not just say best player since basketball was invented?

SilkkTheShocker
08-20-2012, 10:12 AM
Rondo led Celtics dynasty is coming and you suckers don't even see it.

Celtics ain't winning s.hit

guy
08-20-2012, 10:22 AM
Its not far-fetched. With Wade's decline, the Lakers retooling and now ability to stay contending even after Kobe retires, the Thunder improving, and other unforeseen teams improving (Bulls, Celtics, Clippers, Nets, Knicks, etc, bottom line being some teams usually look entirely different 3 years from now), its not out of the questions. I doubt it though. Maybe only 1 with the Heat, but if the situation looks bleak, I wouldn't put it past him to leave for another team. He's done it before.

All Net
08-20-2012, 10:32 AM
All these laker fans forgot so quickly who the best player in the game is...

You know it's funny lebron wins one title and now people think just because he's the best player in the league that means Miami can't be beat because they have the best player

Weird.

ripthekik
08-20-2012, 10:38 AM
lebron fans need to enjoy this year. His one fluke year at getting the ring because the two other best players in the east were injured.

he'll be back to choking bron and exposed like the past. all the lebron fantards will be on suicide watch:applause:

LBJDW305
08-20-2012, 10:44 AM
You know it's funny lebron wins one title and now people think just because he's the best player in the league that means Miami can't be beat because they have the best player

Weird.

It's actually the opposite...lakers get a bunch of players and fans counting championships forgetting there's an actual season and playoffs to be played

All Net
08-20-2012, 10:47 AM
It's actually the opposite...lakers get a bunch of players and fans counting championships forgetting there's an actual season and playoffs to be played

The only people who think Lakers have anything locked is idiots or trolls. Miami are still the team to beat Right now.

guy
08-20-2012, 10:49 AM
Like I said, with Wade declining, the Lakers retooling, Thunder maturing and getting better, and other competition bound to show up, Lebron is more and more looking like he could end up as the Wilt or Jerry West of his era.

NBASTATMAN
08-20-2012, 10:54 AM
Anyone else here believe Lebron will only win one ring his entire career? Barring any ring chasing, its not far-fetched to suggest that Lebron's championship last year will be his last.

Lakers look the team to beat this year and next, Thunder not far behind with another year of experience, and a revamped/rejuvenated Boston team who will certainly cause some headaches to Heat in the east.

The heat team right now, is not going to beat the Lakers team at full health. They have height, they have playmaking ability, they have star power, they have a defensive anchor, and they have some decent shooters. Lakers are the team to beat and all those heat bandwagoners who jumped on that ship will have to be satisfied with one chip, and not the 8 or so that Lebron promised :pimp:

I AGREE. There is no way the Heat team can beat the current lakers team. Shit I am not sure if any team besides Magic' s Lakers and Birds' Celts could compare with this current laker team. The only weakness I can see with the Lakers is their coach.. And that could potentially be a big one..

derb2k2
08-20-2012, 12:27 PM
I like how Wade is declining but Kobe is still staying strong regardless of the years he has on WAde. FActor in that Kobe was in the Olympics and Wade wasn't. Anyone remember how Wade came back after that injured season in 07.

I found out while I lived in Los Angeles just how bad these Lakers fans are. I'm just not surprised by their homerism.

LakersReign
08-20-2012, 12:34 PM
It's actually the opposite...lakers get a bunch of players and fans counting championships forgetting there's an actual season and playoffs to be played

The hilarious hypocrisy is strong in this one:lol

This, coming from a bandwagon Lebron fan who, first was talking championship dynasty when the Cavs signed Shaq and Jamison, and did exactly the same thing in 2011, when the Heat signed Lebron and Bosh? Yeah....you really would be speaking from experience, on that one....wouldn't you?:roll:

Anyways, like somebody already said, Lebron will probably win another title, but the window isn't as wide open as his fans are trying to make it seem:no:

DuMa
08-20-2012, 12:35 PM
Lakers fans celebrating too early. Laker fans feeling entitled already? wow shocker. way to stereotype yourself already. good job chap

Lebron23
08-20-2012, 12:38 PM
I will BUMP this thread after the Heat destroy the Bulls in the first round, and beat the best team in the West in the Finals.

Mr. Incredible
08-20-2012, 12:41 PM
Just like he would never win one....

Riiiiight.


:rolleyes:

guy
08-20-2012, 12:45 PM
I like how Wade is declining but Kobe is still staying strong regardless of the years he has on WAde. FActor in that Kobe was in the Olympics and Wade wasn't. Anyone remember how Wade came back after that injured season in 07.

I found out while I lived in Los Angeles just how bad these Lakers fans are. I'm just not surprised by their homerism.

What relevance does that hold? Kobe and Wade aren't the same person. Its like if I said Chris Paul has a long healthy career in front of him because Lebron and Howard are still going strong despite coming to the league earlier.

HurricaneKid
08-20-2012, 12:46 PM
We had this thread last year and it was "he won't win a ring.". I suspect next year it will be "he will only win 2 rings.".

riseagainst
08-20-2012, 01:01 PM
The hilarious hypocrisy is strong in this one:lol

This, coming from a bandwagon Lebron fan who, first was talking championship dynasty when the Cavs signed Shaq and Jamison, and did exactly the same thing in 2011, when the Heat signed Lebron and Bosh? Yeah....you really would be speaking from experience, on that one....wouldn't you?:roll:

Anyways, like somebody already said, Lebron will probably win another title, but the window isn't as wide open as his fans are trying to make it seem:no:

lebron stans :lol :lol :lol

Bandito
08-20-2012, 01:13 PM
I think Lebron will have the same longevity of a Karl Malone. Both are build like a tank. I will be a very happy fan if LeBron wins at least 4-5 NBA Championships.
I think the same thing too but I don't think bosh is not gonna last that long and wade is definitely gonna be a cripple lol. Unless he leaves the heat and goes to the Lakers and join Dwight:lol

Lebron23
08-20-2012, 01:14 PM
lebron stans :lol :lol :lol

Why are you talking to your other account Bozo the clown? Do you have some kind of mental disorder?

DTreats
08-20-2012, 01:16 PM
It depends.

If there's another lockout shortened season where all the decent competition in the East is injured and they play a team with no experience in the Finals then he might get another one.

ripthekik
08-20-2012, 01:29 PM
It depends.

If there's another lockout shortened season where all the decent competition in the East is injured and they play a team with no experience in the Finals then he might get another one.
correct post.

riseagainst
08-20-2012, 02:04 PM
Why are you talking to your other account Bozo the clown? Do you have some kind of mental disorder?

calm down. :rolleyes:

greymatter
08-20-2012, 02:25 PM
Anyone else here believe Lebron will only win one ring his entire career? Barring any ring chasing, its not far-fetched to suggest that Lebron's championship last year will be his last.

Sure, there are plenty of ignorant people on these boards.



Lakers look the team to beat this year and next

They looked the same when they once boasted a starting lineup that included Shaq, Kobe, Glove, and Mailman.


, Thunder not far behind with another year of experience, and a revamped/rejuvenated Boston team who will certainly cause some headaches to Heat in the east.

The Thunder have a case; Boston all they did was replace Allen with a clearly inferior guy who is 2 years younger and pick up a couple of role players. Meanwhile Pierce and KG are another year older.



The heat team right now, is not going to beat the Lakers team at full health. They have height, they have playmaking ability, they have star power, they have a defensive anchor, and they have some decent shooters. Lakers are the team to beat and all those heat bandwagoners who jumped on that ship will have to be satisfied with one chip, and not the 8 or so that Lebron promised :pimp:

The Lakers are built for this year and maybe next. Lebron will only be 30 by then. What team(s) out there will be dominant enough to freeze him out of the next 3-5 all-nba caliber years he'd have remaining? Not really interested in a response since I know that it'd probably be retarded and not worth serious consideration.

Barring any serious shake ups in the East, the Heat look to be overwhelming ECF champion favorites for at least the next 3 years.

greymatter
08-20-2012, 02:38 PM
and suppose dwight wont be the same again because of his back? suppose kobe doesnt fully support his role as a 2nd option now. suppose they have chemistry issues as a team considering its their first year with a completely different look in their line up.


If anything, LA is going to dominate defensively (the only thing Mike Brown can coach). On offense, chemistry issues are going to prevent Kobe and Nash from being effective together, much like Wade and Lebron had issues with until Wade started deferring to Lebron.

greymatter
08-20-2012, 02:44 PM
It depends.

If there's another lockout shortened season where all the decent competition in the East is injured and they play a team with no experience in the Finals then he might get another one.

66 games is a good sampling size and they still needed 16 playoff wins for a title. There was no shortcut. OKC beat the team that looked most unstoppable in the playoffs and Miami beat OKC. Butthurt much?

riseagainst
08-20-2012, 02:45 PM
66 games is a good sampling size and they still needed 16 playoff wins for a title. There was no shortcut. OKC beat the team that looked most unstoppable in the playoffs and Miami beat OKC. Butthurt much?

the transitive property only applies in math, not always in sports matchups.

greymatter
08-20-2012, 03:11 PM
FYI Im a staunch Bulls fan.

That doesn't help your case. If anything, it's almost demonstrative proof that you're butthurt at the fact that the Bulls are no longer title contenders and likely won't get back there since you've got horrible contracts in Deng, Noah, Boozer, and have no room improve via FA.


Just calling how I see it.

Very wishful thinking.



When the Lakers window closes, you will have other teams who will be contenders, who will be faster stronger and younger than the Heat..Yes, I do believe Heat and Lebron won their last ring last year.

Faster, stronger, younger doesn't equate to "better". When Jordan won his first title, what was it we called those people who said he wasn't going to win another? Ah yes, retards.

jongib369
08-20-2012, 03:13 PM
Its a stretch but who knows...I don't hate LeBron but part of me would think it's hilarious if he only got 1 ring after this "EPIC UNITING OF THE GODS"

greymatter
08-20-2012, 03:15 PM
the transitive property only applies in math, not always in sports matchups.

Barring injury, the Heat weren't going to finish any lower than 2nd. Anyone who claims that this past season deserves an * because of the 16 game difference is a genuine, grade-A retard.

riseagainst
08-20-2012, 03:18 PM
Barring injury, the Heat weren't going to finish any lower than 2nd. Anyone who claims that this past season deserves an * because of the 16 game difference is a genuine, grade-A retard.

Are you strictly talking about this season or any lockout season? If the latter, I guess you are saying phil jackson is a grade-A retard.

TheBigVeto
08-20-2012, 06:29 PM
Are you strictly talking about this season or any lockout season? If the latter, I guess you are saying phil jackson is a grade-A retard.

Yes, Phil Jackson is a grade A retard. Scratch that, he is a grade A+++ retard.

riseagainst
08-20-2012, 07:54 PM
Yes, Phil Jackson is a grade A retard. Scratch that, he is a grade A+++ retard.

It's funny whenever some random on a forum start calling great NBA coaches retards regarding basketball. This is pure entertainment. Next thing you know you'll be calling Einstein a moron. :lol

NumberSix
08-20-2012, 09:20 PM
Why are you talking to your other account Bozo the clown? Do you have some kind of mental disorder?
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_WlxNsx4p5ww/Svi-gl3CmQI/AAAAAAAAAU8/fxZA0Hpxf58/s400/340x_xenu_history.flv.jpg

BankShot
08-20-2012, 10:28 PM
http://nbadraft.net/forum/not-1yes-one-ring-king

Anyone else here believe Lebron will only win one ring his entire career? Barring any ring chasing, its not far-fetched to suggest that Lebron's championship last year will be his last.

Lakers look the team to beat this year and next, Thunder not far behind with another year of experience, and a revamped/rejuvenated Boston team who will certainly cause some headaches to Heat in the east.

The heat team right now, is not going to beat the Lakers team at full health. They have height, they have playmaking ability, they have star power, they have a defensive anchor, and they have some decent shooters. Lakers are the team to beat and all those heat bandwagoners who jumped on that ship will have to be satisfied with one chip, and not the 8 or so that Lebron promised



I'm not sure which is worse.... making the exact same (to the word) post on multiple sites in an attempt to debase Bron's accomplishment.... or copy-and-pasting it :roll:

Story Up
08-20-2012, 10:58 PM
Say he doesn't win one for next 3 years then Kobe/Nash retire, he will still be only 30. He is a top ten all tine talent, I think he'll win a ring in the next 3 years and win after then. He is too good and too dominant, he will retire with about 3-5, IMO. But it's not unrealistic to suggest he won't win another, it's difficult as shit and with Wade's injury riddled career who's already 30, heat's stock could easily plummet next season. Bosh/James won't be enough to beat OKC or la, but of course same concerns can me made for LA.

I don't care if James only retires with one ring tho, he will still be too ten all time. With 4-6 titles, he'll be entering the penthenon of legends (Jordan, wilt, Kareem, Russell and magic). He is more well rounded then Kobe but he won't be considered better career wise with just 1-3 titles, if Kobe does end up with 6-7. Kobe's peak is as good as anyone not named Jordan, IMO.

poido123
08-21-2012, 03:20 AM
I will BUMP this thread after the Heat destroy the Bulls in the first round, and beat the best team in the West in the Finals.

What is the conclusion if the Heat don't? :rolleyes:

As for the Bulls, Heat fans are so chirpy and arrogant about that playoffs they won 2 years ago, they certaintly deep down didnt want to face the bulls with a healthy Rose last year, I certainly think Bulls could of won and still do. And all the rubbing in etc has come after the fact that Rose went down, how ironic :facepalm

You sound so confident, lets not forget that Heat needed to have a very cruisy playoff run, took on an injured Boston and nearly lost, then played a mismatched and inexperienced OKC team who looked lost. Id like to see the Heat face a true test like this year and next, when there will be true competition to face.

Lebron23
08-21-2012, 04:10 AM
What is the conclusion if the Heat don't? :rolleyes:

As for the Bulls, Heat fans are so chirpy and arrogant about that playoffs they won 2 years ago, they certaintly deep down didnt want to face the bulls with a healthy Rose last year, I certainly think Bulls could of won and still do. And all the rubbing in etc has come after the fact that Rose went down, how ironic :facepalm

You sound so confident, lets not forget that Heat needed to have a very cruisy playoff run, took on an injured Boston and nearly lost, then played a mismatched and inexperienced OKC team who looked lost. Id like to see the Heat face a true test like this year and next, when there will be true competition to face.

Both Bosh and Wade weren't 100% healthy in the playoffs. Bosh returned in the Conference Finals. A healthy Miami Heat Team + Allen and Lewis are way better than a Healthy Bulls Team.