#3 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops

[Deuce Bigalow]

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar was voted the #2 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops.

24.2 PPG | 11.6 RPG | 3.6 APG

6

[1987_Lakers]

Bill Russell

[imnew09]

Magic !

[Pacers4ever]

Roy Hibbert or Danny Granger

[KOBE143]

Kobe Bean Bryant

Pls dont count troll's votes..

[Fudge]

I got that Magic Johnson

[fpliii]

"At the age of 14, I discovered the secret: 'pick the one thing you do best and work at it.' So while every other kid was trying to be the next Iceman, I was hitting the boards. Because I figure, if you ain't got the ball, you can't shoot the ball" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0zSdN5ceXU)

Bill Russell btw

[Zedja]

Russell

[Pacers4ever]

Kobe Bean Bryant

Pls dont count troll's votes..
:lol so who are you really picking?

[OmniStrife]

Magic

[CarlosBoozer]

Bill Russell

[TaLvsCuaL]

Magic

[Colbertnation64]

Wilt

[Noof]

Magic

[b1imtf]

Magic

[LongLiveTheKing]

Magic!

[KOBE143]

:lol so who are you really picking?
huh?

Stop trolling please.. This is legit thread..

[no pun intended]

wilt

[EnoughSaid]

http://i53.tinypic.com/t65p5g.gif

:bowdown:

[Harison]

Bill Russell, the greatest winner basketball have ever seen :applause:

[jalbert009]

Bill Russell

[lilblingy]

russell

[RoundMoundOfReb]

bill russell

[jongib369]

Wilt Chamberlain...Russell's TEAMS won...he got steamrolled by Wilt individually

Not saying that this proves Wilt is better than magic, but its funny!

Larry brown talks about a pickup game of MAGIC VS WILT



http://www.nba.com/video/channels/nba_tv/2012/04/14/20120414_brown_magic_wilt.nba

[Pacers4ever]

Wilt Chamberlain...Russell's TEAMS won...he got steamrolled by Wilt individually

Not saying that this proves Wilt is better than magic, but its funny!

Larry brown talks about a pickup game of MAGIC VS WILT



http://www.nba.com/video/channels/nba_tv/2012/04/14/20120414_brown_magic_wilt.nba

Kobe>Wilt it's not close so wilt has nothing on magic

[TheeBeast]

Wilt Chamberlain and his 30/23/4 over Bill Russell 15/22/4 44 fg%

[coin24]

Russell:cheers:

[BrickingStar]

I'll go with Wilt but if Bill Russel is close 3rd

[jongib369]

Kobe>Wilt it's not close so wilt has nothing on magic
w/e you say Mr. Omnipresent ISH poster


:bowdown:


IMO, Not only should wilt be placed ahead of Kobe...It's a stretch to put Kobe in the top 7

He's NOT better than Jordan, Magic, Bird, Russell, Kareem, Wilt or Shaq


W/e though, your entitled to your opinion which is no more valid then mine and vice versa

[sagr32]

Magic

[dyna]

Wilt Chamberlain

[Gabuyaux]

Magic

[KG215]

Bill Russell

[PyrrhusX]

Bill Russell

[AlonzoGOAT]

Bill Russel

[Heavincent]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-a8lnAwwDeJk/TfDMGGmy0oI/AAAAAAAAFaM/M3mWVENcqBg/s1600/bill-russell.jpg

[jongib369]

huh?

Stop trolling please.. This is legit thread..
Man get off this board...You're 14...I'm only 21 but I think most people here can agree you don't know shit about life at age 14 let alone know anything about basketball...Wait a few years before you start preaching your opinions...Are you even in high school?

I mean if you had a positive rating and brought something of VALUE other then being a little Kobetard making TRUE kobe fans look bad it would be w.e...

Does anyone else agree someones account should automatically be terminated once it get's into the red?

ugh :facepalm

[raid09]

Bill Russell

[AlonzoGOAT]

Man get off this board...You're 14...I'm only 21 but I think most people here can agree you don't know shit about life at age 14 let alone know anything about basketball...Wait a few years before you start preaching your opinions...Are you even in high school?

I mean if you had a positive rating and brought something of VALUE other then being a little Kobetard making TRUE kobe fans look bad it would be w.e...

Does anyone else agree someones account should automatically be terminated once it get's into the red?

ugh :facepalm

He's really 14? Wow that's on hell of a f@got why the hell would he even vote if he hasn't even seen magic the goat laker play. I guess he think kobe is the best after MJ by reading his comment on the first thread which he actually says kobe has a case right now for # 1

[Suckafree]

Magic

[DatAsh]

Bill Russell

[KOBE143]

Man get off this board...You're 14...I'm only 21 but I think most people here can agree you don't know shit about life at age 14 let alone know anything about basketball...Wait a few years before you start preaching your opinions...Are you even in high school?

I mean if you had a positive rating and brought something of VALUE other then being a little Kobetard making TRUE kobe fans look bad it would be w.e...

Does anyone else agree someones account should automatically be terminated once it get's into the red?

ugh :facepalm
Who cares.. Does age matter here? You're older than me but you act like a kid and I'm pretty sure I act more mature than you, creating a lot of nonsense thread and sucking Wilt's Dick even tho his already dead..

You're the one who should left this board asshole, everyone here has the right for their own opinion. If you cant take mine then thats your problem..

[jongib369]

He's really 14? Wow that's on hell of a f@got why the hell would he even vote if he hasn't even seen magic the goat laker play. I guess he think kobe is the best after MJ by reading his comment on the first thread which he actually says kobe has a case right now for # 1
Well, in his defense I'm only 21 and I think Wilt is one of the best (top 3) if not THE best...and Obviously I didn't SEE him play when it was going on..most of us haven't...BUT, I've spent the last few "adult" years of my life watching HOURS AND HOURS of footage of Jordan, Bird, Magic, Wilt, Russell, West, Oscar, Shaq, Kobe etc etc etc...When I young, I thought like this

JORDAN NUMBER 1! 6 CHAMPIONSHIPS (young mistake)
KOBE!!! SHAQ!!! (see the trend, earliest memories are going in order of what I saw....I remember CLEARLY watching the Bulls VS Jazz finals...Lakers vs Indiana etc etc...but did I truly understand what the **** was going on? hell no...I LAUGH at my old opinions now...So once this guy ages a little bit, grows the **** up and spends some OBJECTIVE time reading article after article...NON ESPN highlight BS opinions...and watches tons of footage...THEN he gets to say something and have some merit to it...Right now him being 14, not even seeing the entirety of Kobe's career without an adult perspective makes his opinion basically nothing...just like ALL of our opinions were at that age. So I'm not saying hes dumb, he loves basketball so he must be smart in someway :cheers: ...he just needs to stop trolling and maybe that negative rating will go green

[TheBigVeto]

This is easy, once Kareem took 2nd place, Bill Russell takes this one.

[KOBE143]

He's really 14? Wow that's on hell of a f@got why the hell would he even vote if he hasn't even seen magic the goat laker play. I guess he think kobe is the best after MJ by reading his comment on the first thread which he actually says kobe has a case right now for # 1
Does all voter here seen magic played? So what's your point?

"Kobe GOAT Lakers" Magic Johnson.. Tell me if he doesnt have a case you ph@g0t..

[jongib369]

Who cares.. Does age matter here? You're older than me but you act like a kid and I'm pretty sure I act more mature than you, creating a lot of nonsense thread and sucking Wilt's Dick even tho his already dead..

You're the one who should left this board asshole, everyone here has the right for their own opinion. If you cant take mine then thats your problem..
you do have a right to your opinion it's just I have a hard time taking someones opinion who is so young seriously..NO offense, youll think the sameway when you're this age...trust me...I'm sure all of us have had old opinions that make us facepalm at how we could possibly think like that...and hell, my opinions are going to change...Im not some old grand master wizard lol ....I'm more than positive you aren't a dumb ass. This is the first time I'm somewhat "knocking" someone on here...Look at my posts, I usually just joke back and try to stay positive when people troll/insult me

[jongib369]

BTW I take back that your opinion means nothing...it does, it just needs some time to mature

[KOBE143]

you do have a right to your opinion it's just I have a hard time taking someones opinion who is so young seriously..NO offense, youll think the sameway when you're this age...trust me...I'm sure all of us have had old opinions that make us facepalm at how we could possibly think like that...and hell, my opinions are going to change...Im not some old grand master wizard lol ....I'm more than positive you aren't a dumb ass. This is the first time I'm somewhat "knocking" someone on here...Look at my posts, I usually just joke back and try to stay positive when people troll/insult me
Older people always act like they're always better than younger ones.. Adult this day :facepalm

[G-train]

http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0912/rare.larry.bird.photos/images/larry-bird-indiana-state.jpg

[jongib369]

Older people always act like they're always better than younger ones.. Adult this day :facepalm
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/02/09/article-0-001A8E2900000258-359_634x410.jpg

One day you'll understand young padawan

[AlonzoGOAT]

Older people always act like they're always better than younger ones.. Adult this day :facepalm
No dumbass kids like you who act like their more knowledgeable then us and you vote in a top 100 GOAT list and your ****ing 14... Your a top tier dumbass and you haven't seen 95% of the top 100 even play.

[haji_d_robertas]

Wow! Shut up, quit arguing and just vote already! Bill Russell for # 3.

[swag2011]

Magic

[jongib369]

Wow! Shut up, quit arguing and just vote already! Bill Russell for # 3.
We did lmao

Nice Unseld pic btw

[AlonzoGOAT]

Wow! Shut up, quit arguing and just vote already! Bill Russell for # 3.
every poster in this thread has voted already except the OP you dumb nikka

[L.Kizzle]

Russell

[Horatio33]

Bill Russell.

[KOBE143]

No dumbass kids like you who act like their more knowledgeable then us and you vote in a top 100 GOAT list and your ****ing 14... Your a top tier dumbass and you haven't seen 95% of the top 100 even play.
I'm sure that I'm more knowledgeable than some of the poster here maybe even you.. :lol

Even tho I didnt watch Magic and other greats live, there's a lot of game footage replay.. For you to know, I watched a lot ball games.. Bird, Magic, KAJ, Jordan, etc.. I watched a lot of their games and I know how great they are so I believes what I posted here.. Like I said if you cant take my opinion then thats not my problem.. There's an ignore list.. But if you put me in your ignore list then you admit that Im better than you.. :oldlol:

[KOBE143]

Wow! Shut up, quit arguing and just vote already! Bill Russell for # 3.
Sorry.. They're the one that started it.. I just voted and they become like that.. :lol

[DirtySanchez]

Magic Johnson

[Deuce Bigalow]

http://mattyfresh697400.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/magicsprite.jpg

[bdreason]

Russell.

[AlonzoGOAT]

I'm sure that I'm more knowledgeable than some of the poster here maybe even you.. :lol

Even tho I didnt watch Magic and other greats live, there's a lot of game footage replay.. For you to know, I watched a lot ball games.. Bird, Magic, KAJ, Jordan, etc.. I watched a lot of their games and I know how great they are so I believes what I posted here.. Like I said if you cant take my opinion then thats not my problem.. There's an ignore list.. But if you put me in your ignore list then you admit that Im better than you.. :oldlol:
Wrong going through youtube and typing bird 40 point gamez! Does not mean you know anything about their game style and anyone that bases it on highlighted video through youtube has no credibility and you only know great players through their popularity and as for the bolded part that would be true if I had the mentality of a 14 year old. But you claiming to watch "game footage" of all time great and yet vote kobe for # 3 :lol Exposed for being a lying f@got

[KOBE143]

Wrong going through youtube and typing bird 40 point gamez! Does not mean you know anything about their game style and anyone that bases it on highlighted video through youtube has no credibility and you only know great players through their popularity and as for the bolded part that would be true if I had the mentality of a 14 year old. But you claiming to watch "game footage" of all time great and yet vote kobe for # 3 :lol Exposed for being a lying f@got
Pls dont derail this thread.. Im not going to argue with you anymore.. Poster like you makes ISH unbearable sometimes..

[AlonzoGOAT]

Pls dont derail this thread.. Im not going to argue with you anymore.. Poster like you makes ISH unbearable sometimes..

"Location: Kobe <3" Jeff ban this f@got. Kobe would if he could

[YAWN]

Magic

[KOBE143]

"Location: Kobe <3" Jeff ban this f@got. Kobe would if he could
:sleeping :sleeping :sleeping

[Rolando]

Bill Russell

[scandisk_]

http://hoopedia.nba.com/images/3/36/BillRussell1957.jpg

problem?

[tobethdope]

bird

[BlackVVaves]

What type of bullshit was going on in this thread? :oldlol:

Bill for #3. GOAT interior defender, GOAT defensive center. Type of defense that just discourages you, can't get anything at the basket.

[longhornfan1234]

Wilt.

[Kews1]

Magic

[arifgokcen]

Wilt The Stilt

[Shade8780]

:facepalm at Magic. BILL RUSSELL!!!!

[BoutPractice]

Russ.

[Deuce Bigalow]

:facepalm at Magic. BILL RUSSELL!!!!
Magic deserves a facepalm?

[Overdrive]

Who cares.. Does age matter here? You're older than me but you act like a kid and I'm pretty sure I act more mature than you, creating a lot of nonsense thread and sucking Wilt's Dick even tho his already dead..

You're the one who should left this board asshole, everyone here has the right for their own opinion. If you cant take mine then thats your problem..

Your problem isn't your young age, it's that you cannot accept that your opinion based on the newest fad(Kobe) will possibly not last forever.

You're promoting Kobe as the GOAT eventhough there was a player of the same style who did everything Kobe did('cept for 3pt shooting) but better.

If you had the same opinion being 30 years old people wouldn't point at your age, they'd point at your stupidity. Are you rather young or stupid? So don't see it as an insult.

When I was your age I was totally crazy about Shaq. For me Shaq was better than Jordan, way better. I would not accept a different opinion. Somewhere in time I found out that favourite doesn't equal best.

I still like the very same players I liked back then, but I accept that there are better players and you'll, too.

My vote goes to Magic Johnson.

[Shade8780]

Magic deserves a facepalm?
I'm not saying he's a bad player, but c'mon!

1. MJ
2. Russ
3. Wilt
4. Kareem
5. Bird
6. Magic

[SwayDizzle]

Russ

[Alan Ogg]

Russell

[pauk]

Wilt Chamberlain

[iDunk]

Wilt

[goldcrow]

Magic.

[Kobe 4 The Win]

If he isn' #1 or #2 then Magic Johnson is #3.

[riseagainst]

magic

[turnaroundJ]

It's also between Magic or Bill for me. Then maybe Wilt should round up the top 5.

Bill Russell.

[JuicyJay78]

Wilt

[lakersfan2046]

I will go with Magic Johnson

The way I look at it is if you are going to rank Basketball players, you need to do so based on three things:

1. Rings (A single player in BBall can be the difference between a ring or not)
2. Personal Stats
3. Impact on the game (changes in officiating rules, being emulated by younger players, etc.)

It is clear that Magic, Wilt and Russell should all be considered for the Top 3 slot. Russell and Magic have Wilt beat on the ring counter front. However, Wilt and Magic have Russell beat on the personal stats front. Finally, Magic and Wilt have Russell beat on the impact on the game front.

From the above, it is quite clear that Russell is last on my list out of the three. He has not had a lasting impact on the game. His personal stats are not very impressive and he won in a weaker era. Magic edges out Wilt because he has had a longer lasting impact on the game of basketball (no look passes, point forwards, PG playing multiple positions, Showtime, etc.) and won more rings. While Wilt had more stellar personal achievements in scoring and rebounding, the Magic man was no slouch himself. So, I have to go with Magic. The way I see it:

1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem
3. Magic
4. Wilt
5. Bill Russell

[Pushxx]

Russell

[bluechox2]

russell

[KingBeasley08]

Wilt

[Sarcastic]

Wilt Chamberlain.

[B-hoop]

Bill Russel

[BlackWhiteGreen]

Russell

[DaHeezy]

Magic

[SuperPippen]

Russell

Again, I fail to see how Magic has a legitimate argument to be this high, but that's just me.

[Vertical-24]

WALLAH! MAGIC :pimp:

[Poochymama]

Bill Russell

[SpecialQue]

Magic.

[Snoop_Cat]

Bill Russell. Magic wasn't better than Bird in my eyes.

[Kblaze8855]

Magic and Wilt have Russell beat on the impact on the game front.



Nah. Russell is pretty much the reason teams started trying to win with defense. Magic had a popularity impact and some bigger players wanted to handle the ball and all but his impact cant really match Russell.

Wilt had the greatest impact on the way the rules are now considering hes the reason for offensive goaltending, not jumping at the Ft line, the lane being made wider, not being able to inbound the ball over the backboard and all that.

But far as how teams went about winning? What was considered defense? Before Bill Russell bigmen were taught to never leave the floor so they could react quickly and not be stuck in the air. Bill started jumping to block shots and was told to stop before people noticed the other teams were scoring 40-50 points when he was in college.

Bill literally changed the game.

[Kblaze8855]

Oh and I love magic....not like. Love. One of my favorite players in the history of sports. All sports.

But I remember the mid to late 80s/early 90s...

Lerry Bird was considered better than him. Even when people point to Magics best yearsl ike "This is when it became Magics time...." people still had Bird as the best. Then MJ.

Im sure someone felt Magic was best. But its like how some consider Durant and Kobe the best now.

Larry was Lebron of the 80s far as widespread belief that hes #1.

Jerry Sloan had him as the GOAT in his second season. Larry was so respected its hard to explain it with a modern player.

The idea that Magic was better than him really gained steam online. That wasnt what people thought at the time.

[StateOfMind12]

Same vote as last time, Bill Russell.

[Doctor K]

Oh and I love magic....not like. Love. One of my favorite players in the history of sports. All sports.

But I remember the mid to late 80s/early 90s...

Lerry Bird was considered better than him. Even when people point to Magics best yearsl ike "This is when it became Magics time...." people still had Bird as the best. Then MJ.

Im sure someone felt Magic was best. But its like how some consider Durant and Kobe the best now.

Larry was Lebron of the 80s far as widespread belief that hes #1.

Jerry Sloan had him as the GOAT in his second season. Larry was so respected its hard to explain it with a modern player.

The idea that Magic was better than him really gained steam online. That wasnt what people thought at the time.


And u dont think the fact bird was white had anything to do with people 'believing' he was better :rolleyes:

[DTreats]

The f-ggot with HIV. Magic:pimp:

[pauk]

I will go with Magic Johnson

The way I look at it is if you are going to rank Basketball players, you need to do so based on three things:

1. Rings (A single player in BBall can be the difference between a ring or not)
2. Personal Stats
3. Impact on the game (changes in officiating rules, being emulated by younger players, etc.)

It is clear that Magic, Wilt and Russell should all be considered for the Top 3 slot. Russell and Magic have Wilt beat on the ring counter front. However, Wilt and Magic have Russell beat on the personal stats front. Finally, Magic and Wilt have Russell beat on the impact on the game front.

From the above, it is quite clear that Russell is last on my list out of the three. He has not had a lasting impact on the game. His personal stats are not very impressive and he won in a weaker era. Magic edges out Wilt because he has had a longer lasting impact on the game of basketball (no look passes, point forwards, PG playing multiple positions, Showtime, etc.) and won more rings. While Wilt had more stellar personal achievements in scoring and rebounding, the Magic man was no slouch himself. So, I have to go with Magic. The way I see it:

1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem
3. Magic
4. Wilt
5. Bill Russell

Only if he has the required supporting cast to work with around him....

To value a players individual career with this team accomplishment being the biggest and in some cases the only priority and totally discredit what the player did with what he had to work with around him (win or lose) is unfair, simpleminded and just stupid.... this is not tennis for gods sake...

[Niquesports]

And u dont think the fact bird was white had anything to do with people 'believing' he was better :rolleyes:

Especially when it was mostly a old white media that was saying this

[Deuce Bigalow]

#3 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops Voting

37- Bill Russell
27- Magic Johnson
14- Wilt Chamberlain
2- Larry Bird
1- Kobe Bryant

[Sarcastic]

#3 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops Voting

36- Bill Russell
26- Magic Johnson
14- Wilt Chamberlain
2- Larry Bird
1- Kobe Bryant

It's pretty clear how 4 and 5 will be voted.

1 MJ
2 Jabbar
3 Russell
4 Magic
5 Wilt


Can't really complain with that top 5, but I put them in a different order.

[AK47DR91]

Magic Johnson

[Ne 1]

Bill Russell.