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eliteballer
08-20-2012, 08:11 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/19510/amare-says-nyk-has-a-top-big-3-do-you-agree

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vstN_fbnI-w

http://bucketsoverbroadway.com/2012/06/12/new-york-knicks-where-does-knicks-big-3-rank-among-nbas-best/

I thought you needed 3 stars to have a big 3? Ever since Chandler went to the Knicks the media has referred to them having a big 3. Since when is Chandler anything but a very good roleplayer? Yeah, he has a DPOY but let's be honest, the guy isnt exactly Olajuwon. I can see why Knicks fans would be dissapointed year after year when they are fed BS like this.

DTreats
08-20-2012, 08:14 PM
Top 15 SF
Top 10 PF
Top 5 C

Big 3:roll:

LamarOdom
08-20-2012, 08:15 PM
Top 15 SF
Top 10 PF
Top 5 C

Big 3:roll:

Chandler top 5 center? hardly.

FreezingTsmoove
08-20-2012, 08:16 PM
:oldlol: fatmelo :oldlol: big 3 :oldlol:

chips93
08-20-2012, 08:18 PM
chandler >>> amare

KLovin
08-20-2012, 08:20 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/19510/amare-says-nyk-has-a-top-big-3-do-you-agree

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vstN_fbnI-w

http://bucketsoverbroadway.com/2012/06/12/new-york-knicks-where-does-knicks-big-3-rank-among-nbas-best/

I thought you needed 3 stars to have a big 3? Ever since Chandler went to the Knicks the media has referred to them having a big 3. Since when is Chandler anything but a very good roleplayer? Yeah, he has a DPOY but let's be honest, the guy isnt exactly Olajuwon. I can see why Knicks fans would be dissapointed year after year when they are fed BS like this.

Interestingly enough though, he was pretty much the Knicks' best and most consistent player for a good stretch last season. Anyone who watched the Knicks last season knows that Chandler was pretty much the lone defensive and energy guy along with...Jared Jeffries.

AirTupac
08-20-2012, 08:20 PM
Fatmelo's stomach
Fatmelo's head
Fatmelo's cawk

Big 3

The Ownage
08-20-2012, 08:22 PM
If the media creates stories like these hyping the team up, it becomes easier to bash on the Knicks, which creates headlines. Same with any other great teams. It happened to the Heat for the past couple years and I imagine it will happen ot the Lakers now. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not comparing the Knicks to these teams, the media creates these headlines because there is a sense of "underachievement" and obviously the fact that they're a big market.

And Amare? Dude punches a fire extinguisher after a playoff game. So I can't say that's the most absurd thing he's done/said :lol

chips93
08-20-2012, 08:25 PM
If the media creates stories like these hyping the team up, it becomes easier to bash on the Knicks, which creates headlines. Same with any other great teams. It happened to the Heat for the past couple years and I imagine it will happen ot the Lakers now. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not comparing the Knicks to these teams, the media creates these headlines because there is a sense of "underachievement" and obviously the fact that they're a big market.

well the lakers and heat are actually talented teams, and teams that have had success. the media didnt 'build them up', they actually played well. the same cant be said for the knicks

TheBigVeto
08-20-2012, 08:27 PM
They had a big 3 with Jeremy Lin, Amare and Melo.
Now they don't have Jeremy Lin, so no more big 3.

DTreats
08-20-2012, 08:27 PM
Chandler top 5 center? hardly.
Bynum/Howard
Howard/Bynum
Kevin Garnett
Marc Gasol
Tyson Chandler

Dirk/Love
Love/Dirk
Gasol
Bosh
Aldridge
Duncan
Randolph
Smith
Griffin
Davis
West
Amar'e

James
Durant
Granger
Gay
Iggy
Pierce
Deng
Batum
Gallinari
Anthony

Big 3...?

:lol

NOHCP3
08-20-2012, 08:28 PM
Amare Stoudemire says the Knicks' "Big 3" of Tyson Chandler, Carmelo Anthony and himself ranks "right there at the top" with the Lakers trio of Andrew Bynum, Pau Gasol and Kobe Bryant, the Heat's Big Three and Oklahoma City's duo of Kevin Durant and Russell Westrbook.

:lebronamazed: :kobe: :durantunimpressed:

Say what you warn about amare but he always has high aspirations for NY.

LamarOdom
08-20-2012, 08:32 PM
Bynum/Howard
Howard/Bynum
Kevin Garnett
Marc Gasol
Tyson Chandler

Dirk/Love
Love/Dirk
Gasol
Bosh
Aldridge
Duncan
Randolph
Smith
Griffin
Davis
West
Amar'e

James
Durant
Granger
Gay
Iggy
Pierce
Deng
Batum
Gallinari
Anthony

Big 3...?

:lol

If you want I can provide a gun so you can kill yourself.

DTreats
08-20-2012, 08:37 PM
If you want I can provide a gun so you can kill yourself.

Who are your centers

QuebecBaller
08-20-2012, 08:40 PM
Arenas/Butler/Jamison were called a Big 3 so...

FreezingTsmoove
08-20-2012, 08:53 PM
Arenas/Butler/Jamison were called a Big 3 so...


Arenas Butler Jamison don't have a combined 1-9 record in the playoffs

JaggerCommaMick
08-20-2012, 08:54 PM
Arenas/Butler/Jamison were called a Big 3 so...


Exactly, mate. Media will make stars out of anyone if its convenient. That dont make them the best players. I'd rather have Marc and Zach from Memphis than any of New York's 'stars'.

But the average dumb bloke buys into the idear that high ppg = star. Thats the only reason Carmelo and Stoudamire are considered stars at all. Fans always give the highest scorer disproportionate credit for team success. A scorer like Stoudamire is a star, but a lockdown defender and capable rebounder and finisher like Marion is a 'role player'.

Basketball is complex, the media dumbs it down for the average idiot to grasp and follow, the average idiot comes here and repeats the simple axioms the media has trained him to believe. Its that simple.

FreezingTsmoove
08-20-2012, 08:56 PM
Exactly, mate. Media will make stars out of anyone if its convenient. That dont make them the best players. I'd rather have Marc and Zach from Memphis than any of New York's 'stars'.

But the average dumb bloke buys into the idear that high ppg = star. Thats the only reason Carmelo and Stoudamire are considered stars at all. Fans always give the highest scorer disproportionate credit for team success. A scorer like Stoudamire is a star, but a lockdown defender and capable rebounder and finisher like Marion is a 'role player'.

Basketball is complex, the media dumbs it down for the average idiot to grasp and follow, the average idiot comes here and repeats the simple axioms the media has trained him to believe. Its that simple.

wtf 2011 Amare stoudermire >>>>>>>>>>>>> anything "the chosen one on ish" has ever done in his career

LamarOdom
08-20-2012, 10:14 PM
Who are your centers

Dwight
Bynum
Marc

outbreak
08-20-2012, 11:28 PM
JVG went on about this last year. Media calls every teams best 3 players a big three these days. I'm looking forward to Orlando's big 3 of Afflalo, Big Baby and Nelson this season :P

KOBE143
08-21-2012, 12:13 AM
In their wet dreams

SyRyanYang
08-21-2012, 12:25 AM
Bynum/Howard
Howard/Bynum
Kevin Garnett
Marc Gasol
Tyson Chandler

Dirk/Love
Love/Dirk
Gasol
Bosh
Aldridge
Duncan
Randolph
Smith
Griffin
Davis
West
Amar'e

James
Durant
Granger
Gay
Iggy
Pierce
Deng
Batum
Gallinari
Anthony

Big 3...?

:lol
Big Baby Davis?:roll:

HYJ
08-21-2012, 12:28 AM
Originally Posted by DTreats

Top 15 SF

James
Durant
Granger
Gay
Iggy
Pierce
Deng
Batum
Gallinari
Anthony

Sir that's only top 10 you said hes top 15 where are the other 5?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=273843&page=2

Smoke117
08-21-2012, 12:38 AM
Bynum/Howard
Howard/Bynum
Kevin Garnett
Marc Gasol
Tyson Chandler

Dwight Howard is definitively easily the best Center in the league, there is no Howard/Bynum, Bynum/Howard nonsense. Besides that, when Andrew Bogut comes back healthy next season that puts another Center ahead of Tyson Chandler. He's better both offensively AND defensively. Al Jefferson is obviously better. Al Horford is also better when fully healthy and there's probably others I just haven't thought of. Tyson Chandler pretty much became the most overrated Center in the league the second after they gave give that joke of a DPOY.

Knicksfever2010
08-21-2012, 12:48 AM
i think the term 'big 3' has become a catch phrase that became popular w/ the celtics and carried through when teams like the knicks/bulls/heat got so far under the cap to try and get 3 superstar players on their squad.

if you look at the knicks roster, its almost a big 3. Melo is a superstar player, amare WAS a superstar player and still young enough and tyson chandler is a top 5 center in the nba.

Smoke117
08-21-2012, 12:52 AM
i think the term 'big 3' has become a catch phrase that became popular w/ the celtics and carried through when teams like the knicks/bulls/heat got so far under the cap to try and get 3 superstar players on their squad.

if you look at the knicks roster, its almost a big 3. Melo is a superstar player, amare WAS a superstar player and still young enough and tyson chandler is a top 5 center in the nba.

No he isn't. He's a top 10 center in the league, but he's by no means a top 5 center in the league.

kNicKz
08-21-2012, 12:54 AM
Saying Chandler isn't top 5 is pretty ignorant

who is better? Gortat? Kaman? Kwame? Turiaf?

Bynum, Howard, and Noah rank higher than chandler imo

Knicksfever2010
08-21-2012, 02:20 AM
No he isn't. He's a top 10 center in the league, but he's by no means a top 5 center in the league.

whose ahead of tyson?

DTreats
08-21-2012, 02:35 AM
Sir that's only top 10 you said hes top 15 where are the other 5?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=273843&page=2
I said he's in the TOP 15, NOT THAT HE'S 15.

That being said,

Metta World Peace
Mike Miller
Stephen Jackson
Harrison Barnes
Carmelo Anthony

He's in the mix with those other 4 so he's in the 11-15 range.

DTreats
08-21-2012, 02:36 AM
Big Baby Davis?:roll:
tha brow.

CTulc
08-21-2012, 02:49 AM
I said he's in the TOP 15, NOT THAT HE'S 15.

That being said,

Metta World Peace
Mike Miller
Stephen Jackson
Harrison Barnes
Carmelo Anthony

He's in the mix with those other 4 so he's in the 11-15 range.

Is anyone gonna let this slide?!!?:facepalm

This is the most ignorant thing I've ever read!
Carmelo is being put among the ranks as Mike hobbled Miller?! I have him as top 3 SF even above Paul Pierce which celtics fans usually nut hug.

Smoke117
08-21-2012, 02:50 AM
whose ahead of tyson?

Howard, Bynum, Garnett, Jefferson, M. Gasol, Bogut, Horford, Noah. There's a few right there.

DTreats
08-21-2012, 02:56 AM
Is anyone gonna let this slide?!!?:facepalm

This is the most ignorant thing I've ever read!
Carmelo is being put among the ranks as Mike hobbled Miller?! I have him as top 3 SF even above Paul Pierce which celtics fans usually nut hug.
Carmelo Anthony doesn't pass or play defense, he scores inefficiently, and his rebounding is adequate at best.

He has a big name, if not he's nothing more than Evan Turner given the green light to shoot as much as he wants.

Overrated, when I'm building my team I rather have Mike Miller for $3 million a year than Anthony for $20 million. No brainer

LosBulls
08-21-2012, 03:02 AM
Melo Top 5 SF
Amare Top 5 PF
Chandler Top 5 C

FKAri
08-21-2012, 03:03 AM
Is anyone gonna let this slide?!!?:facepalm

This is the most ignorant thing I've ever read!
Carmelo is being put among the ranks as Mike hobbled Miller?! I have him as top 3 SF even above Paul Pierce which celtics fans usually nut hug.

Melo has dirt on Stern. And the Knicks GM owes Stern a favor so Melo is allowed to pursue his passion of being an NBA player.

Xiao Yao You
08-21-2012, 03:07 AM
Don't even have a big 1.

TheeBeast
08-21-2012, 03:17 AM
Chandler is a role plyer, not a top 5 center. The only reason why people overrate him now was because of his finals run with the Mavs.

Trentknicks
08-21-2012, 03:53 AM
Don't even have a big 1.
Your a joke of a poster, your life consists of posting negative shit about the Knicks. :lol And you live in China, probably asian too, man i can see why you need to hate on the Knicks to keep your attention away from what your life really is.

Clutch
08-21-2012, 04:27 AM
They had a big 3 with Jeremy Lin, Amare and Melo.
Now they don't have Jeremy Lin, so no more big 3.
Tyson >>> Lin

jdm_dc_fan
08-21-2012, 04:43 AM
Melo Top 5 SF
Amare Top 5 PF
Kevin Love
Pau Gasol
Chris Bosh
LeMarus Aldrige
Dirk
Blake Griffin
Zach Randolph
Josh Smith
Chandler Top 5 C
D. Howard
Andrew Bynum
Mark gasol
Cousins
Roy Hibbert
Al Jefferson
Kevin Garnett

To be honest I would take David Lee's 20/10 over Amare.

kNIOKAS
08-21-2012, 04:56 AM
Top 15 SF
Top 10 PF
Top 5 C

Big 3:roll:
LMFAO:applause:

livingby3's
08-21-2012, 05:01 AM
when will people start to see Jeremy Lin is not that awesome

jdm_dc_fan
08-21-2012, 05:03 AM
when will people start to see Jeremy Lin is not that awesome
october 31

Story Up
08-21-2012, 05:26 AM
Melo Top 5 SF
Amare Top 5 PF
Chandler Top 5 C
Just a sample of how bad their big 3 is.

Howard
Bryant
Melo
Gasol
Nash
Amare
Chandler

LA's 4th best player is better then NY's 2nd best player, heck I can make an argument that both Pau and Nash are technically more impactful then Melo.

El Kabong
08-21-2012, 05:38 AM
Eh, media can hype 'em all they want. They'll be good, but not great, probably a 2nd round exit. Nothing wrong with a player talking big about his team. I mean, it's a definite case of hubris or wishful thinking or whatever, but that's to be expected.

RoseCity07
08-21-2012, 06:13 AM
The only player I'd want from the Knicks is Tyson Chandler. He's actually been a pivotal player on a championship team.

Nash
08-21-2012, 06:48 AM
IF NY get to have a big 3, then here is more so called "big 3's".

Deron Williams, Joe Johnson and Khris Humphries
Hibbert, West, Granger
Kidd-Gilchrist, Biyombo, Kemba Walker

BoutPractice
08-21-2012, 07:16 AM
In terms of impact, the two bigs stars are actually the ones who used to be overrated (no longer though since being on the Knicks has put a target sign on their back, they're clearly elite players...) while Tyson Chandler was the underrated one.

His play may not be as eye-pleasing, but it is extremely meaningful. He rebounds, anchors a defense, doesn't fumble passes, and brings tons of intangibles to the table like good communication, energy, leadership, and a team first attitude.

Not only do advanced stats paint him as a top center in the NBA, but he is immensely respected around the league, which is why he was selected as part of the US Olympic Team and why Dirk mainly credited his presence for his championship.

Trentknicks
08-21-2012, 07:57 AM
The only player I'd want from the Knicks is Tyson Chandler. He's actually been a pivotal player on a championship team.
You should focus more on passing on MJ's and choosing cripple players in the draft.

Niquesports
08-21-2012, 08:13 AM
In terms of impact, the two bigs stars are actually the ones who used to be overrated (no longer though since being on the Knicks has put a target sign on their back, they're clearly elite players...) while Tyson Chandler was the underrated one.

His play may not be as eye-pleasing, but it is extremely meaningful. He rebounds, anchors a defense, doesn't fumble passes, and brings tons of intangibles to the table like good communication, energy, leadership, and a team first attitude.

Not only do advanced stats paint him as a top center in the NBA, but he is immensely respected around the league, which is why he was selected as part of the US Olympic Team and why Dirk mainly credited his presence for his championship.


Mello is by far a top 10 player in the league.
Amare is a top 20
Chandler is a top 10 C

All 3 have made All Star team
I would call that a Big 3

Story Up
08-21-2012, 09:01 AM
Mello is by far a top 10 player in the league.
Amare is a top 20
Chandler is a top 10 C

All 3 have made All Star team
I would call that a Big 3
Amare ain't top 20 anymore, Melo is top ten and being top ten C doesn't mean much.

If NY has a big 3, then like 15 teams have a big 3. Lol

Sarcastic
08-21-2012, 09:04 AM
Amare ain't top 20 anymore, Melo is top ten and being top ten C doesn't mean much.

If NY has a big 3, then like 15 teams have a big 3. Lol


Name 15 teams that have that.

Alan Shore
08-21-2012, 09:23 AM
This big 3 crap is stupid. It's just another lame-assed Stern-era marketing ploy that doesn't have any real validity.

It's the same nonsense as adding a third All-Nba team.

The same nonsense as rewarding mediocrity by having an extra round of playoffs with undeserving 7th and 8th seeds, and sometimes undeserving 6th seeds.

Any true contender is going to have positive-sum players who successfully mesh their skills.

Do the Knicks have that? What teams do?

Story Up
08-21-2012, 09:27 AM
Bryant, Nash, Howard
James, Wade, Bosh
Westbrook, Durant, Harden
Parker, Duncan, Manu
Johnson, Williams, Lopez
Bynum, Holiday, Turner
Granger, Hibbert, West
Rose, Deng, Noah
Paul, Griffin, Butler
Garnett, Pierce, Rondo
Randolph, Gay, Gasol

That's 11 I'd take over NY's trio any day. Quit overrating your shit team, they haven't done shit with that trio.

Sarcastic
08-21-2012, 09:39 AM
Bryant, Nash, Howard
James, Wade, Bosh
Westbrook, Durant, Harden
Parker, Duncan, Manu
Johnson, Williams, Lopez
Bynum, Holiday, Turner
Granger, Hibbert, West
Rose, Deng, Noah
Paul, Griffin, Butler
Garnett, Pierce, Rondo
Randolph, Gay, Gasol

That's 11 I'd take over NY's trio any day. Quit overrating your shit team, they haven't done shit with that trio.


Some of these are a joke. Did you really list Evan Turner? :roll:
Derrick Rose is about to miss the whole season as well.


And what about the other 4 teams? You said 15 teams at least.

QuebecBaller
08-21-2012, 10:03 AM
Bryant, Nash, Howard, Gasol - Big 4
James, Wade, Bosh - Big 3
Westbrook, Durant, Harden - 3 but not one is big :D
Parker, Duncan, Manu - Old 3
Johnson, Williams, Lopez - 2 and a half
Bynum, Holiday, Turner - Big 1
Granger, Hibbert, West - No one
Rose, Deng, Noah - Big injuries
Paul, Griffin, Butler - Big Flop
Garnett, Pierce, Rondo - Big 2 old and 1 new
Randolph, Gay, Gasol - Big 2 and a Gay


Fixed

Niquesports
08-21-2012, 10:21 AM
Amare ain't top 20 anymore, Melo is top ten and being top ten C doesn't mean much.

If NY has a big 3, then like 15 teams have a big 3. Lol


I would say Amare is still boardline TOP 20. THe mix of Mello,Amare just hasn't completely evolved yet.IF you say there are 10 PF over Amare I'm finished talking.
Some would say Mello is TOp 5.
I would say its a wash between Chandler and Bosh

Story Up
08-21-2012, 07:38 PM
Fixed
K? Why can't you idiots realize those trios were far more succesful then the dysfunctional garbage that's Melo/Amare/Chandler. Just a terrible combo. A ball hog PF and SF, and offensively difficient center; none are great play makers, Melo/amare are terrible defenders, amare is a garbage rebounder and shot blocker who also has injury problems and most importantly, this trio hasn't achieved anything worth speaking about.

Yet you dipshit have the audacity to insult other trios who are far more cohesive and have achieved more.

K ****** ass knick fans.

Lebron23
08-21-2012, 07:57 PM
Mello is by far a top 10 player in the league.
Amare is a top 20
Chandler is a top 10 C

All 3 have made All Star team
I would call that a Big 3


LMAO

Trentknicks
08-21-2012, 08:00 PM
Half of the posters on here have such worthless lives that they spend their time ripping on a team 'they don't care about', on an online forum, gutless ****s.

The 'Big 3 term' was given to them by the media, not self appointed. But anyway keep wasting time of your pointless existence hating on the Knicks:lol

LamarOdom
08-21-2012, 08:04 PM
Mello is by far a top 10 player in the league.
Amare is a top 20
Chandler is a top 10 C

All 3 have made All Star team
I would call that a Big 3

Chandler has never played in an all star game.

DTreats
08-21-2012, 08:06 PM
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FreezingTsmoove
08-21-2012, 08:45 PM
http://i1150.photobucket.com/albums/o614/tillyho12/3eaef014.png


Muck Felo

bagelred
08-21-2012, 08:59 PM
Chandler is a role plyer, not a top 5 center.

He plays the role of USA Olympic team's starting center. :pimp:

niko
08-21-2012, 09:10 PM
I get ragging on Amare now, but people are straight hating if you are down on Chandler. He's a great player, makes a huge impact on defense. he rebounds, and he scores enough that he's not a liability. That's a center's job, no?

longtime lurker
08-21-2012, 09:13 PM
Wow people need to get off the Knicks. Calling Melo, Chandler and Amare a big 3 is truly laughable, but they can surprise a lot of teams if their 2 all star players decide to take their head outta their ass and give consistent effort.

BlackVVaves
08-21-2012, 09:24 PM
I get ragging on Amare now, but people are straight hating if you are down on Chandler. He's a great player, makes a huge impact on defense. he rebounds, and he scores enough that he's not a liability. That's a center's job, no?

Yup. And, he was a glue piece to a championship team, per all the notable players on that team.

Sadly, Amare's failings nullify so much of what that frontcourt truly could be.

Knicksfever2010
08-21-2012, 09:43 PM
Howard, Bynum, Garnett, Jefferson, M. Gasol, Bogut, Horford, Noah. There's a few right there.

wait seriously? horford, noah, bogut? Please stop embarrassing yourself.

FreezingTsmoove
08-21-2012, 09:46 PM
wait seriously? horford, noah, bogut? Please stop embarrassing yourself.

Embarrassing yourself? Please tell me what Chandler can do offensively besides an alley oop or dunk. I watched all 66 of the knicks games and his offensively highlights include one post up play where he hit a sky hook and 2 cross overs where he took his man off the dribble. He probably got off his own shot about 5 times this season.

QuebecBaller
08-21-2012, 09:48 PM
K? Why can't you idiots realize those trios were far more succesful then the dysfunctional garbage that's Melo/Amare/Chandler. Just a terrible combo. A ball hog PF and SF, and offensively difficient center; none are great play makers, Melo/amare are terrible defenders, amare is a garbage rebounder and shot blocker who also has injury problems and most importantly, this trio hasn't achieved anything worth speaking about.

Yet you dipshit have the audacity to insult other trios who are far more cohesive and have achieved more.

K ****** ass knick fans.

Where did I say that the Knicks trio is better than the others? I just put other names than "Big 3". The Knicks players were not in the list so I didn't wrote anything about them

idiot :lol

By the way, I'm not a knicks fan Mr. Know-it-All. I don't have a favorite team since 2008. (The Sonics were my favorite team)

Knicksfever2010
08-21-2012, 10:31 PM
Embarrassing yourself? Please tell me what Chandler can do offensively besides an alley oop or dunk. I watched all 66 of the knicks games and his offensively highlights include one post up play where he hit a sky hook and 2 cross overs where he took his man off the dribble. He probably got off his own shot about 5 times this season.

please stop posting, you're a gigantic fool. Tyson chandlers job as center is too dominate the low post and he does that. Sorry but horford, bogut dont scare people from coming into the paint. I would suggest that you go play in traffic.

Trentknicks
08-22-2012, 01:55 AM
please stop posting, you're a gigantic fool. Tyson chandlers job as center is too dominate the low post and he does that. Sorry but horford, bogut dont scare people from coming into the paint. I would suggest that you go play in traffic.
This, the only reason Chandler isn't a top 5 center is if we are "assuming" everyone is fully healthy, which half the center's aren't and playing to their full potential. For a player that has 'no offensive game' 11ppg from solely feeding of Melo & Stat's leftovers is pretty darn good.

Smoke117
08-22-2012, 02:13 AM
please stop posting, you're a gigantic fool. Tyson chandlers job as center is too dominate the low post and he does that. Sorry but horford, bogut dont scare people from coming into the paint. I would suggest that you go play in traffic.

You're an idiot. Bogut is the 2nd best REAL (as Kevin Garnett is playing out of position) defensive center in the league after Dwight Howard. The 2011 Bucks were one of the top defensive teams in the league and the main reason was Andrew Bogut. An healthy Bogut is easily better than Chandler. He's better defensively and he's far better offensively when he's confident and not worried about getting hurt. Hopefully this upcoming the 2012-2013 season we'll see a turn in luck for him as far as his health goes because he can easily be the 3rd best center in the league after Howard and Bynum if healthy and confident.

Knicksfever2010
08-22-2012, 02:19 AM
You're an idiot. Bogut is the 2nd best REAL (as Kevin Garnett is playing out of position) defensive center in the league after Dwight Howard. The 2011 Bucks were one of the top defensive teams in the league and the main reason was Andrew Bogut. An healthy Bogut is easily better than Chandler. He's better defensively and he's far better offensively when he's confident and not worried about getting hurt. Hopefully this upcoming the 2012-2013 season we'll see a turn in luck for him as far as his health goes because he can easily be the 3rd best center in the league after Howard and Bynum if healthy and confident.

why arent you playing traffic like I instructed you to do? GO ON-GET!!!

btw bogut averaged 11.3 points per game in 2011, tyson chandler averaged THE SAME, AND chandler averaged ONE MORE REBOUND per game.

*I dont understand your hatred for NYC. Did you go there once and get mugged? Maybe you hit on another man and he turned you down? Or is it that after a one night stand w/ another man, you woke up handcuffed to the bed w/ your watch and wallet GONE - like your pride and dignity?

Trentknicks
08-22-2012, 02:25 AM
why arent you playing traffic like I instructed you to do? GO ON-GET!!!

btw bogut averaged 11.3 points per game in 2011, tyson chandler averaged THE SAME, AND chandler averaged ONE MORE REBOUND per game.

*I dont understand your hatred for NYC. Did you go there once and get mugged? Maybe you hit on another man and he turned you down? Or is it that after a one night stand w/ another man, you woke up handcuffed to the bed w/ your watch and wallet GONE - like your pride and dignity?
I think a robber from NYC entered his house and stole nothing but his virginity and dignity. :roll:

Knicksfever2010
08-22-2012, 02:32 AM
I think a robber from NYC entered his house and stole nothing but his virginity and dignity. :roll:

you might be right, who knows. I just know he couldnt hang in the city for more than a few minutes without getting fidgety and antsy. I love watching people new to the city act tough at the start but at the end they crying for they mommies. NYC is tough and unforgiving, if you cant hack it here, GO HOME!

Trentknicks
08-22-2012, 02:34 AM
you might be right, who knows. I just know he couldnt hang in the city for more than a few minutes without getting fidgety and antsy. I love watching people new to the city act tough at the start but at the end they crying for they mommies. NYC is tough and unforgiving, if you cant hack it here, GO HOME!
No doubt his sister was keeping the bed warm waiting for him when he got back :cheers:
Knicks fans trolling at their best.

AK47DR91
08-22-2012, 02:38 AM
You're not a Big 3 until you make it past the 1st Round.

Knicksfever2010
08-22-2012, 02:39 AM
You're not a Big 3 until you make it past the 1st Round.

WHY DO YOU CARE??

Smoke117
08-22-2012, 02:43 AM
why arent you playing traffic like I instructed you to do? GO ON-GET!!!

btw bogut averaged 11.3 points per game in 2011, tyson chandler averaged THE SAME, AND chandler averaged ONE MORE REBOUND per game.

*I dont understand your hatred for NYC. Did you go there once and get mugged? Maybe you hit on another man and he turned you down? Or is it that after a one night stand w/ another man, you woke up handcuffed to the bed w/ your watch and wallet GONE - like your pride and dignity?

Bogut averaged 12.8ppg/11.1rpg in 2011 (so wtf are you talking about?) and 15.9ppg the year before when he broke his arm. The reason his offense fell so much is he wasn't using the arm during the season he came back not trusting in it. Either way you don't even have your seasons correct you moron. You are talking about stats he averaged through this last 2012 season in which he played 12 games before he broke his ankle.

AK47DR91
08-22-2012, 02:43 AM
WHY DO YOU CARE??
DID I SAID I CARE?

Trentknicks
08-22-2012, 02:46 AM
Bogut averaged 12.8ppg/11.1rpg in 2011 (so wtf are you talking about?) and 15.9ppg the year before when he broke his arm. The reason his offense fell so much is he wasn't using the arm during the season he came back not trusting in it. Either way you don't even have your seasons correct you moron. You are talking about stats he averaged through this last 2012 season in which he played 12 games before he broke his ankle.
I'm Australian and a big Bogut fan but come on man, when will he ever be fully healthy or at least not injury prone? If Tyson had an offense run through him he would average more than Bogut without a doubt, 11ppg feeding off Melo & STAT's scraps!

Bogut would not have turned the Knicks around as much defensively either.

AK47DR91
08-22-2012, 02:55 AM
If Tyson had an offense run through him he would average more than Bogut without a doubt :roll:
Chandler will never be a top 2 offensive option on a team. Never had and never will. What can he do offensively that would make you think he can possibly be a #1 scoring option?

Trentknicks
08-22-2012, 02:58 AM
:roll:
Chandler will never be a top 2 offensive option on a team. Never had and never will. What can he do offensively that would make you think he can possibly be a #1 scoring option?
It was a hypothetical scenario, the point I was trying to make is that he isn't that far behind Bogut in PPG, which is impressive considering Bogut had the offense run through him at the Bucks and Tyson barely feeds off scraps.

Dwade305
08-22-2012, 03:38 AM
It was a hypothetical scenario, the point I was trying to make is that he isn't that far behind Bogut in PPG, which is impressive considering Bogut had the offense run through him at the Bucks and Tyson barely feeds off scraps.
This why nobody respects Knicks fans saying if "they were to run the offense through Tyson", you know how stupid that sounds even if its hypothetical, it has to make some sense jackass. Not even the Bobcats will run a ****ing offense through Chandler, because he has no post game, cant pass very good, etc. Theoretically Chandler gets alot of play ran for him off the ball. Who sets 90% of the pick and rolls? Who gets easy dunks when the opposing big man decides to trap the ballhandler? He is a good rebounder, shot blocker, and knows how to move off the ball but thats it, he is nowhere close to being offensivley gifted as someone like Bogut, who can pass, has better footwork, has a jumpshot, etc

Trentknicks
08-22-2012, 04:00 AM
This why nobody respects Knicks fans saying if "they were to run the offense through Tyson", you know how stupid that sounds even if its hypothetical, it has to make some sense jackass. Not even the Bobcats will run a ****ing offense through Chandler, because he has no post game, cant pass very good, etc. Theoretically Chandler gets alot of play ran for him off the ball. Who sets 90% of the pick and rolls? Who gets easy dunks when the opposing big man decides to trap the ballhandler? He is a good rebounder, shot blocker, and knows how to move off the ball but thats it, he is nowhere close to being offensivley gifted as someone like Bogut, who can pass, has better footwork, has a jumpshot, etc
Way to take it out of proportional fool, I was comparing the different situations the two centers were in, in relation to their team's offense. At least flush before you post shit all over the board

Dwade305
08-22-2012, 12:08 PM
Way to take it out of proportional fool, I was comparing the different situations the two centers were in, in relation to their team's offense. At least flush before you post shit all over the board
out of "proportional", we got a bright Knicks fan here:oldlol:

Go ahead an explain your hypothetical situatuion than If everyone misunderstood you, because everyone thinks you are a f*cking idiot

FreezingTsmoove
08-22-2012, 02:04 PM
please stop posting, you're a gigantic fool. Tyson chandlers job as center is too dominate the low post and he does that. Sorry but horford, bogut dont scare people from coming into the paint. I would suggest that you go play in traffic.


Your the fool here your making it seem like Bogut is a total scrub compared to Chandler.

DStebb716
08-22-2012, 02:46 PM
Bynum/Howard
Howard/Bynum
Kevin Garnett
Marc Gasol
Tyson Chandler

Dirk/Love
Love/Dirk
Gasol
Bosh
Aldridge
Duncan
Randolph
Smith
Griffin
Davis
West
Amar'e

James
Durant
Granger
Gay
Iggy
Pierce
Deng
Batum
Gallinari
Anthony

Big 3...?

:lol

Agree with your center list
But then you just go full troll mode.

DStebb716
08-22-2012, 02:47 PM
Top five center, top three SF, top 10 PF