NBA Live 13 First Gameplay Footage [Archive] - Message Board Basketball Forum

Yung D-Will

08-21-2012, 06:23 PM

Well it should look horrible at this point. Instead of working on the live 10 engine which was a solid base, and one of the biggest leaps from 09 to 10, they decide to redo everything and have a completley differnt game for 2011, and it clearly didn't pay off.

The Important part is they have to release a game, and build up from it. 2k's nba game is a heavyweight just like Ea's Nhl, and it's impossible to expect to compete in one year, it has to be a long term project in which they build up a base rather than just restarting everytime their game doesn't sell as much as 2k.

no pun intended

08-21-2012, 06:25 PM

My eyes...

Yung D-Will

08-21-2012, 06:43 PM

Madden would be a much better game if it actually had competion, it's blatently clearly that the team has gotten complacent.

I think what that poster should have said, is simply that Ea has dominated NHL games to the point where 2k discontinued the franchise because of lack of sales, similar to what 2k Basketball did to nba elite in 11/12.

LongLiveTheKing

08-21-2012, 06:55 PM

It might also be downloadable only, is anyone actually planning on buying this?

Fiasco

08-21-2012, 06:56 PM

Be smart and don't buy either game.

ILLsmak

08-21-2012, 07:07 PM

lol wow.

-Smak

Hotbullets

08-21-2012, 07:09 PM

Be smart and don't buy either game.

:coleman:

2K13 is awesome. Played the demo at Gamescom.

#number6ix#

08-21-2012, 07:09 PM

That looked like nba live 95:lol

LongLiveTheKing

08-21-2012, 07:15 PM

:coleman:

2K13 is awesome. Played the demo at Gamescom.
How were the new controls? Is it better than 2k12?

KeyNote

08-21-2012, 07:22 PM

this is terrible

if they were smart they'd just focus on the NBA Street franchise..those games were the sh!t

leave the professional basketball games to the experts over at 2K

pauk

08-21-2012, 07:36 PM

2k >>>>>>>>>>>

Math2

08-21-2012, 08:47 PM

Congratulations on all of you thinking that a months old build is the final product.:lol

no pun intended

08-21-2012, 08:51 PM

When do these demos become available downloads on Live or PSN?

IGotACoolStory

08-21-2012, 08:55 PM

Congratulations on all of you thinking that a months old build is the final product.:lol

Like the final Live product is going to be anything more than a bookend. :rolleyes:

Heavincent

08-21-2012, 09:05 PM

Congratulations on all of you thinking that a months old build is the final product.:lol

First of all, it might be a pretty recent build. Don't believe everything EA says, because they're full of shit most of the time. Not to mention every team was available to be played and I think I even saw that dynasty mode was available. I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure early builds of games usually have pretty limited menu options. Secondly, do you really think the game is going to sky rocket and become dramatically better than what we saw in that gameplay footage? Sorry, but it's not. The core mechanics of the game looked completely broken in that footage. That indicates that the final game will probably be bad.

And this is EA. They haven't made a good basketball game in years.

Oositdwn

08-21-2012, 09:12 PM

Did I really just see Lebron post up Wade?? :wtf: :wtf:

EA had 2 yrs to work on this game and this is the best they can up with? :facepalm

Peteballa

08-21-2012, 09:25 PM

awful

Haymaker

08-21-2012, 09:34 PM

Congratulations on all of you thinking that a months old build is the final product.:lol

The Nets new logo is in the game, so it's not that old.

ace23

08-21-2012, 09:50 PM

:roll:

This shit is hilarious. Comments on the video on Twitter and OS have made my day. :oldlol:

DStebb716

08-21-2012, 10:14 PM

It looks terrible but the presentation is great. By that I mean the ESPN stuff looks awesome. Announcing maybe not but the graphics for the players and all that. Good job on that. Rest looks bad.

DStebb716

08-21-2012, 10:15 PM

Check out the updates: says this is not near the final product. So there's that.

SourPatchKids

08-21-2012, 10:17 PM

Absolutely not. 2K makes far better football games. All Pro Football 2K8 completely destroys Madden 12 in terms of gameplay, and that game came out 5 ****ing years ago.
:lol . Can we just say soccer from now on( sorry non Americans) to avoid this kind of confusion?

Peteballa

08-21-2012, 10:18 PM

:lol . Can we just say soccer from now on( sorry non Americans) to avoid this kind of confusion?

http://images.wikia.com/theamazingworldofgumball/images/c/c7/5a0ed88f_what.gif

WHAT?

Meticode

08-21-2012, 10:32 PM

Was this gameplay for the PS2?

NewYorkNoPicks

08-21-2012, 10:59 PM

I hate the 2k franchise, been playing live since 97.... But this looks exactly like Nba 2k....which came out in....the year 2000... For sega dreamcast

BabyBull

08-21-2012, 11:04 PM

All I can say is eeeeeeewwwww.

BabyBull

08-21-2012, 11:06 PM

seriously wtf was that ?

It looks like PS2/Wii footage.

Rake2204

08-21-2012, 11:09 PM

:lol . Can we just say soccer from now on( sorry non Americans) to avoid this kind of confusion?
All-Pro Football 2K8 was a football game. It was a darkhorse title because EA bought the NFL license, thus preventing other companies from making their own NFL games. 2K decided to use fictional teams made up of NFL legends. I personally couldn't get past the non-NFL part, but the gameplay was outstanding (as was NFL 2K5's, often lauded as the best NFL video game of all-time). EA bought the exclusive NFL license after NFL 2K5.

ihoopallday

08-21-2012, 11:45 PM

Was that the Nintendo 64 version?

CavaliersFTW

08-21-2012, 11:46 PM

Was that the Nintendo 64 version?
:facepalm

Come on, that was AT LEAST Sega Dreamcast quality

ace23

08-21-2012, 11:49 PM

Check out the updates: says this is not near the final product. So there's that.
Lies

Haymaker

08-21-2012, 11:49 PM

:facepalm

Come on, that was AT LEAST Sega Dreamcast quality

Dreamcast was a great system :applause:

scandisk_

08-21-2012, 11:54 PM

Looks like Live 1913 :lol

ihoopallday

08-22-2012, 12:04 AM

Check out the updates: says this is not near the final product. So there's that.

We saw 2k13 footage months ago that looked way better than this garbage. Second of all, EA has been working on this game for 2 years!! I'm sorry, but I'd expect better footage than that.

d.bball.guy

08-22-2012, 12:08 AM

:roll: :roll:

:facepalm

Batz

08-22-2012, 12:08 AM

Check out the updates: says this is not near the final product. So there's that.
This is nearly two years of work. And this is all they come up with? TWO YEARS?

I doubt this is the final build, but it doesn't mean anything. It's something they say when their testers give them alot of negative shit for the crappy product they make them play-through. The 2K13 they showed at Gamescon was 100x (no exxageration) better than this, and their latest delevor insights they have been putting out is nearly a completely different game. That was barely three months of a difference, these guys took two years to come up with the same basic shitty product. Take a hint?

LikeABosh

08-22-2012, 12:16 AM

people still play NBA Live? :lol

DStebb716

08-22-2012, 12:26 AM

guys, calm down. I wasn't defending it, just noting. people on this site don't understand what just noting something is.

Reverend Hoops

08-22-2012, 01:28 AM

Gameplay looks horrible. Presentation/Commentary is amazing. Can 2K get ESPN?

Heavincent

08-22-2012, 01:29 AM

Gameplay looks horrible. Presentation/Commentary is amazing. Can 2K get ESPN?

Commentary is horrible. Sounds really unnatural and there were a bunch of weird silences.

Batz

08-22-2012, 01:29 AM

guys, calm down. I wasn't defending it, just noting. people on this site don't understand what just noting something is.
Yeah and I replied to that noting. People on this site don't understand what just replying to something is.

Vertical-24

08-22-2012, 01:40 AM

Only thing good about this game seems to be the ESPN template :confusedshrug:

ace23

08-22-2012, 02:29 AM

This is nearly two years of work. And this is all they come up with? TWO YEARS?

I doubt this is the final build, but it doesn't mean anything. It's something they say when their testers give them alot of negative shit for the crappy product they make them play-through. The 2K13 they showed at Gamescon was 100x (no exxageration) better than this, and their latest delevor insights they have been putting out is nearly a completely different game. That was barely three months of a difference, these guys took two years to come up with the same basic shitty product. Take a hint?
It's not a pre alpha build. That's EA's cover-up just in case the vid was poorly received, and it was. Pre alpha builds don't have all teams, all modes, and online connectivity.

Shit, they may have leaked the video on purpose to test the waters and see how they will go about releasing the game if at all. If we hate it, it's an early build. If we dig it, then they create some hype.

shallehalle

08-22-2012, 02:40 AM

this looks like camrip and even worse

Jax

08-22-2012, 02:51 AM

Doodoo Jump 13.
They could've at least used some Fifa or Madden body models or movements damn. Sucks balls, looks like those Super Nintendo games.

Lebowski

08-22-2012, 02:52 AM

The video they are showing is a pre alpha version...like one commenter said

"It's like looking at cake batter and saying, "Hey that's not a cake! OMGFAILEASUX!"

Yeah he/she has a point. However, if you are still in pre-alpha stage this close to release, that can not be a good sign. I mean, its not like we are expecting game to be released Q2 2013.

monkeypox

08-22-2012, 03:30 AM

Just because the video game out now doesn't mean that's what the game looks like now. They could be much closer to finishing. But according to everyone that saw it at E3 it looked shitty. People are speculating that this is going to be a budget download only title.

I figured there must be something wrong considering the PR lady almost threw he body in front of the door to block my friends and I from going in and seeing even a glimpse of footage.

madmax17

08-22-2012, 04:45 AM

Why do they even bother? isn't it obvious that EA reigns supreme in football and 2K in basketball? its not even close lolEa is not reigning in anything except soccer, they've paid a billion bucks just to get the exclusive nfl license, they've gotten lazy and now Madden is crap.

madmax17

08-22-2012, 04:49 AM

This 'thing' isn't even worth commenting, I think they are being realistic and they know they can't compete with nba2k so they'll release a half-product at 20$ with crappy graphics and sub-par gameplay, and will probably sell only 30 copies total.

Fiasco

08-22-2012, 04:50 AM

:coleman:

2K13 is awesome. Played the demo at Gamescom.

2K13 is probably the same game 2K11 was with features they've either taken out before + put in again or have added in to distract you from the actual problems with the mechanics.

I wouldn't be mad if you gave us some insights you had during the demo, specifically what makes it different from 2K11/12.

BoutPractice

08-22-2012, 04:52 AM

Turrible turrible turrible

East_Stone_Ya

08-22-2012, 04:55 AM

arcade stays arcade:hammerhead:

LJJ

08-22-2012, 05:11 AM

The video they are showing is a pre alpha version...like one commenter said

"It's like looking at cake batter and saying, "Hey that's not a cake! OMGFAILEASUX!""

Lol Bullshit. Don't believe everything EA's marketing department tells you, they either want to cancel the release or simply release the game download only without any footage shown beforehand. So they are pissed real footage leaked, saying it's not even an alpha is just textbook damage control.

And even if it's a couple of months old: this title has been in development for between two and three times as long as a regular sports release. The game still looks that shitty after at least two years of polishing?

stallionaire

08-22-2012, 05:53 AM

Puked in my mouth after seeing Live gameplay finally.

Hotbullets

08-22-2012, 06:24 AM

2K13 is probably the same game 2K11 was with features they've either taken out before + put in again or have added in to distract you from the actual problems with the mechanics.

I wouldn't be mad if you gave us some insights you had during the demo, specifically what makes it different from 2K11/12.

I played two five minute quarters. One against this douchy little German kid who kept shooting for threes with any player (Ibaka for instance...), so yeah I was kind of annoyed and I really wanted to beat him, so I didn't focus that much on the gameplay, haha!

But then the second game was against my main man Granny Danger and I was really impressed. The collision system has improved greatly, no more awkward bumps in the paint, everything looks so realistic. Even though I didn't get enough time to get used to the new control stick (I think that'll take a while for ANYONE), it felt like a great addition and I can't wait to actually master it. One thing I thought was really weird, is that spin moves for example work with the control stick (right) as well as with the left stick. I was trying to do some combinations and sometimes they worked (spin move into crossover), but they were kind of hard to pull off.

The game feels slower, a bit more simmy imo. Oh and there are a shitload of new pass animations, no pass looks the same, which is awesome. Westbrook threw some flashy dimes, especially the bounce passes really work well. I'm really excited because for me that was the main problem in 2K12.

The demo was only 80% finished, and I thought it already looked real polished. If you compare it to that shit video EA released, yeah well, it's a no-contest really.

If you have more specific questions, then shoot! :cheers:

Fiasco

08-22-2012, 06:29 AM

Thank you for replying.

I have an assload of questions but I don't want to waste your time.

Just a couple, if you'd be so kind as to answer:

1. What was the difficulty? In 2K12/11, the gameplay mechanics aren't really a problem until you start playing HOF difficulty, which is what I play exclusively. I take any new improvements with a grain of salt, as all of 2K's titles have looked fine on Rookie to All-Star difficulty.

2. Were you able to move around the court without getting bumped every damn second? Getting bumped in the paint is one thing, but when you're trying to play off ball in 2K12, being in small proximity of 1 defender (even on the perimeter) causes your guy to go in a "bumping" animation that really ruins the flow of the game.

3. Pick and Roll game. Was it still terrible?

4. Low Post scoring. Were defenders still getting pushed around no matter -what- by big men that were posting up? And were they still getting scored on like 9/10 times on whatever shot was put up from a post position?

5. Rebounding. Does the CPU still know where every rebound is going, and is there still that stupid "volleyball" type of rebounding going on?

Batz

08-22-2012, 06:34 AM

I played two five minute quarters. One against this douchy little German kid who kept shooting for threes with any player (Ibaka for instance...), so yeah I was kind of annoyed and I really wanted to beat him, so I didn't focus that much on the gameplay, haha!

But then the second game was against my main man Granny Danger and I was really impressed. The collision system has improved greatly, no more awkward bumps in the paint, everything looks so realistic. Even though I didn't get enough time to get used to the new control stick (I think that'll take a while for ANYONE), it felt like a great addition and I can't wait to actually master it. One thing I thought was really weird, is that spin moves for example work with the control stick (right) as well as with the left stick. I was trying to do some combinations and sometimes they worked (spin move into crossover), but they were kind of hard to pull off.

The game feels slower, a bit more simmy imo. Oh and there are a shitload of new pass animations, no pass looks the same, which is awesome. Westbrook threw some flashy dimes, especially the bounce passes really work well. I'm really excited because for me that was the main problem in 2K12.

The demo was only 80% finished, and I thought it already looked real polished. If you compare it to that shit video EA released, yeah well, it's a no-contest really.

If you have more specific questions, then shoot! :cheers:
When was this? The games people played at E3/Gamescon are entirely different to the current build released currently according to 2K. Even though the build people played got great reception. They changed dribbling, post, animations, PNR, spacing, AI, defense, rebounds, post-D, shotblocking, and so much more since. Even shotclock and pace were addressed. 2K is finally paying attention to detail, which is what makes me excited about 2k13 than any other previous basketball game ever.

Watch these if you wanna keep up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNKWq7qpz_0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3yHLhAMzoI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAIScXDoWxI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzp9mPqbkro

Lol Bullshit. Don't believe everything EA's marketing department tells you, they either want to cancel the release or simply release the game download only without any footage shown beforehand. So they are pissed real footage leaked, saying it's not even an alpha is just textbook damage control.

And even if it's a couple of months old: this title has been in development for between two and three times as long as a regular sports release. The game still looks that shitty after at least two years of polishing?
Everyone thought or atleast expected EA to start the game from scratch. Looks like they took the shitty demo they made two years ago, and kept it shitty. Maybe even went a little more shitty.

Fiasco

08-22-2012, 06:42 AM

Gamescom was like a week ago

Hotbullets

08-22-2012, 06:49 AM

Sure, no problem!

1. I can't really tell, because I was playing against human controlled opponents who were defending on-ball all the time... Anyway, we all know 2K is NO fun playing against noobs who don't understand basketball... My friend was able to defend me well, I on the other hand kind of had a hard time, but I have to admit, defense isn't my strong point in this game (those god damn shot fakes always get me :oldlol: ). We'll have to wait and see...

2. Pretty much, I never really had any awkward moments, it looked really fluent overall. Some players even have their own running/dribbling animations this time around. Westbrook for instance dribbles up the court as he would do in real life. Pretty cool.

3. Couldn't run actual plays (too bad, because normally I run a play on every single possession), but I could call for a pick using the left bumper. The picks really work well, I was able to create space and drive into the lane easily.

4. Honestly I had no clue on how to do post moves (they revamped those as well), so I never really tried... Did bank a nice turn around fade-away with KD though.

5. Hard to tell, I honestly can't remember. But again, I saw tons of new animations, including rebounding.

Honestly, it's kind of hard to answer these questions based off only two five minute quarters... I focused on the overall flow of the game and it felt and looked really good. Looks like 2k really put some work in it, and that they actually focused on the gameplay instead of putting in new features (you know, the MJ and legends stuff...). I'm optimistic and will buy this day one.

Hotbullets

08-22-2012, 06:52 AM

When was this? The games people played at E3/Gamescon are entirely different to the current build released currently according to 2K. Even though the build people played got great reception. They changed dribbling, post, animations, PNR, spacing, AI, defense, rebounds, post-D, shotblocking, and so much more since. Even shotclock and pace were addressed. 2K is finally paying attention to detail, which is what makes me excited about 2k13 than any other previous basketball game ever.

I went to Gamescom last friday.

Oh and I saw Tony Hawk! Haha :banana:

Fiasco

08-22-2012, 06:58 AM

Thanks HB. Repped.

Clutch

08-22-2012, 07:19 AM

10 minute of gameplay footage with Mike Breen commentating and not a single "BANG" was heard ????? SCREW THAT GAME
Also Mike Breen sounds a little weird,like he's talking slower than usual.

Only thing that I like about the game is the ESPN presentation (Mike Breen and Jeff Van Gundy) and the defense chants. Everything else is horrible.

RoundMoundOfReb

08-22-2012, 07:35 AM

I like breen+JVG and the sound effects but other than that it's garbage.

Hotbullets

08-22-2012, 07:45 AM

Not gonna lie, that ESPN presentation does look kind of slick. And you can't hate on JVG, you just can't.

Noof

08-22-2012, 08:02 AM

This looks bad, very very bad. It looks the same as Elite but without the terrible controls. All it's missing is a crucified Kendrick Perkins. And why is Durant a tall Aaron Brooks?

RoseCity07

08-22-2012, 08:05 AM

I hope they keep trying just so they take a big loss. EA is a joke. This game looks like it was made by a bunch of amateurs. The scale of the court and the players looks way off. Everything looks bad. This is one big pile of sh*t again. Live 2005 is better than anything they've brought out on next gen systems.

Rake2204

08-22-2012, 08:26 AM

Gameplay looks horrible. Presentation/Commentary is amazing. Can 2K get ESPN?
I may have mentioned this a few weeks ago but 2K had the ESPN license all the way through 2005. They had it fully integrated into their games like NBA Live showed in this released footage. However, after the 2K5 releases (NFL 2K5 was particularly dominant), EA Sports purchased the ESPN rights for 15 years. As such, I believe their current deal will not end until 2020. http://www.gamespot.com/news/electronic-arts-espn-ink-exclusive-15-year-deal-6116473

The lamest part of that whole deal is it took nearly 8 years for EA Sports to begin fully integrated ESPN into their video games. When they bought the license in 2005, they more or less acquired it so 2K wouldn't have it. Here's what 2K's ESPN integration looked like in 2005: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDD6UCXxURo&feature=related. Chris Berman's own 2K show (full with highlights), post-game interviews, Top Plays of the Week during Franchise. . . that was seven years ago and we haven't seen anything like it since.

WillyJakk

08-22-2012, 08:32 AM

I'm sick of seeing that same lame ass substitution cutscene.

Twice wasn't enough but a 3rd time??? :coleman:

Batz

08-22-2012, 09:57 AM

I went to Gamescom last friday.

Oh and I saw Tony Hawk! Haha :banana:
Haha that's awesome. Can't wait for 2k13!

po3try

08-22-2012, 09:58 AM

Remember those days when NBA Live used to rule?

Hotbullets

08-22-2012, 10:09 AM

Remember those days when NBA Live used to rule?

I really liked NBA Live 05, especially that dunk contest mini-game, that was really well done. But then I picked up 2K5, back then it was ESPN 2K5 I believe, and man, that was something else... Never even touched live since then.

Tried NBA Live 08 at a friend's later on, but man, I can't believe people would actually play that when you have such a WAAAY better alternative.

2K13 will be great, but I must say I'm not digging the dunk contest (you know, with the Guitar Hero-esque controls). It's weird to me that 2K Sports - who deliver the deepest basketball game there is, year after year - implement such a shallow-ass mode. I mean, you have no control whatsoever, what's fun about that? Why not use the control stick? A bit lame, but oh well, it's just an add-on, what matters most is the core gameplay. And that, my friends, is solid.

madmax17

08-22-2012, 10:13 AM

Remember those days when NBA Live used to rule?I should still have my NBA live 95 stashed somewhere :rockon: still remember the shot across court with Brian Shaw, goat shot.

Then NBA Live 96 first shot at 3D, well sort off players weren't in 3D.

NBA Live 97 has to this day my favorite feature in any NBA game, there was a button beneath every player, well most of them, then you would press that button and a woman would give you interesting facts and trivia about that player, was pretty cool wish 2k would do something like this, you would listen to her talk while you are browsing the menus and looking at stats or something.

Played all of them on the pc.

niko

08-22-2012, 10:18 AM

I really liked NBA Live 05, especially that dunk contest mini-game, that was really well done. But then I picked up 2K5, back then it was ESPN 2K5 I believe, and man, that was something else... Never even touched live since then.

Tried NBA Live 08 at a friend's later on, but man, I can't believe people would actually play that when you have such a WAAAY better alternative.

2K13 will be great, but I must say I'm not digging the dunk contest (you know, with the Guitar Hero-esque controls). It's weird to me that 2K Sports - who deliver the deepest basketball game there is, year after year - implement such a shallow-ass mode. I mean, you have no control whatsoever, what's fun about that? Why not use the control stick? A bit lame, but oh well, it's just an add-on, what matters most is the core gameplay. And that, my friends, is solid.

What else did you see at Gamescom that was cool?

Hotbullets

08-22-2012, 10:28 AM

Nothing too much really, couldn't be bothered to wait in line for 3+ hours to play a 5 minute demo. I wanted to check out Far Cry 3/Assassin's Creed 3 but the lines were absolutely ridiculous. I just walked around checking out booth bitches 'n shit, haha.

Luckily basketball isn't TOO popular in Europe, so playing 2K13 was no problem - it was pretty much the only game I really, really wanted to play, so yeah...

I did play this random ass game that was hella-funny though: Tokyo Jungle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN98-QEfYzI)

These Asians! :oldlol:

Sorry for the OT peepz, I will shut up now. :crazysam:

po3try

08-22-2012, 10:52 AM

I should still have my NBA live 95 stashed somewhere :rockon: still remember the shot across court with Brian Shaw, goat shot.

Then NBA Live 96 first shot at 3D, well sort off players weren't in 3D.

NBA Live 97 has to this day my favorite feature in any NBA game, there was a button beneath every player, well most of them, then you would press that button and a woman would give you interesting facts and trivia about that player, was pretty cool wish 2k would do something like this, you would listen to her talk while you are browsing the menus and looking at stats or something.

Played all of them on the pc.

Yea, nostalgia! I have all those NBA lives left under a pile of dust next to my SNES somewhere.

Rake2204

08-22-2012, 10:59 AM

2K13 will be great, but I must say I'm not digging the dunk contest (you know, with the Guitar Hero-esque controls). It's weird to me that 2K Sports - who deliver the deepest basketball game there is, year after year - implement such a shallow-ass mode. I mean, you have no control whatsoever, what's fun about that? Why not use the control stick? I'm with you on that one. From a lot of what I heard early on, people were claiming the previous controls for 2K's Dunk Contest were terribly complicated, thus leading to this dumbed down version "anyone" can pick up. I never found the old controls that difficult to begin with. One had to learn how to perform dunks correctly, but it wasn't exactly rocket science.

Now, the new dunk contest is one of those cases where I'm hoping something's changed or control alternatives are offered but secretly, I know what we've seen is what we're getting, and that kind of sucks. 2K finally moves their dunk contest to a realistic environment and they take away all control of our dunkers in response; little bit of a bummer.