Kobe Bryant in Elimination Games that were not blowouts

[Deuce Bigalow]

Kobe's '03, '04, '06, '08, '11 Elimination games weren't even close, his team was blown out. In '09 his team blew the other team out.

Here's his numbers in elimination games that were not blowouts:

2000 WCF, Game 7: 25 pts, 11 reb, 7 ast, 0 stl, 4 blk, 9/19 FG, 1/4 3P, 6/12 FT, .515 TS% (W)
2002 WCF, Game 6: 31 pts, 11 reb, 5 ast, 0 stl, 0 blk, 10/20 FG, 0/0 3P, 11/11 FT, .624 TS% (W)
2002 WCF, Game 7: 30 pts, 10 reb, 7 ast, 2 stl, 0 blk, 10/26 FG, 2/3 3P, 8/10 FT, .493 TS% (W)
2007 WCQF, Game 5: 34 pts, 4 reb, 1 ast, 1 stl, 0 blk, 13/33 FG, 2/8 3P, 6/7 FT, .471 TS% (L)
2010 Finals, Game 6: 26 pts, 11 reb, 3 ast, 4 stl, 0 blk, 9/19 FG, 1/4 3P, 7/7 FT, .589 TS% (W)
2010 Finals, Game 7: 23 pts, 15 reb, 2 ast, 1 stl, 0 blk, 6/24 FG, 0/6 3P, 11/15 FT, .376 TS% (W)
2012 WCQF, Game 7: 17 pts, 1 reb, 8 ast, 0 stl, 1 blk, 7/16 FG, 2/2 3P, 1/4 FT, .479 TS% (W)
2012 WCSF, Game 5: 42 pts, 5 reb, 0 ast, 2 stl, 0 blk, 18/33 FG, 1/6 3P, 5/7 FT, .582 TS% (L) (77-83 score entering the 3rd quarter)

8 Games: 28.5 PPG, 8.5 RPG, 4.1 APG, 1.3 SPG, 0.5 BPG, .432 FG%, .273 3P%, .753 FT%, .513 TS%

Calculating his TS%:

42 33 7
23 24 15
26 19 7
34 33 7
31 20 11
30 26 10
25 19 12
17 16 4

228 190 73

PTS / (2 * (FGA + 0.44 * FTA))
228 / (2 * (190 + 0.44 * 73))

2003 WCQF, Game 6 - Lakers lost by 28

2004 Finals, Game 5 - Lakers were down by 23 entering the 4th quarter

2006 1st Round, Game 7 - Lakers lost by 31

Halftime
Kobe - 21 points, 8 Made FGs
Rest of Lakers - 24 points, 9 Made FGs

Kobe shot 50% for the game. Rest of his teammates 32%.

Odom - 35%
Smush - 31%
Kwame - 20%

2008 Finals, Game 6 - The Lakers lost by 39.

Here is how Kobe started the Game.

End of 1st Quarter
Kobe - 11 points, 4 Made FGs
Rest of Lakers - 9 points, 1 MADE FG

And it all went downhill from the 2 Quarter

Halftime - Lakers down by 23
Kobe - 4 Made FGs
Rest of Lakers - 4 Made FGs

Kobe alone had the same amount of Made FGs as the rest of his teammates combined at Halftime.

2009 WCQF, Game 7 - Lakers were up by 20 at halftime and up by 19 entering the 4th quarter

2011 WCSF, Game 4 - The Lakers lost by 36
Here is how Kobe started the Game.

End of 1st Quarter
Kobe - 13 points, 6 Made FGs
Rest of Lakers- 10 points, 2 MADE FGs

Halftime - Lakers down by 24
Kobe - 7 Made FG
Rest of Lakers - 7 Made FGs

Kobe had made the same amount of FGs as the rest of his teammates combined at Halftime.

[RRR3]

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[Deuce Bigalow]

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Axl: OP is a *******
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The 'OP is a *******' thing is so old already. :facepalm

[Glide2keva]

What was his FG%? Can't only use TS%, too much of a crutch bullshit stat.

[chips93]

What was his FG%? Can't only use TS%, too much of a crutch bullshit stat.

whats wrong with TS%

[Deuce Bigalow]

What was his FG%? Can't only use TS%, too much of a crutch bullshit stat.
.431

I think TS% is a great efficiency stat since it includes efficiency from all areas - 2pt FGs, 3pt FGs, FTs.

[tmacattack33]

:facepalm

So basically... Kobe's elimination games discluding the bad ones.

I'm going go make a thread called "Ron Artest in elimination games, except for the ones he played poorly in". See ya there!

[Deuce Bigalow]

:facepalm

So basically... Kobe's elimination games discluding the bad ones.

I'm going go make a thread called "Ron Artest in elimination games, except for the ones he played poorly in". See ya there!
No :facepalm
It's in games that were not blowouts.

[tmacattack33]

No :facepalm
It's in games that were not blowouts.


You include all games. You can't just selectively take out some games.

Let's go back and take away all of the losing blow outs from all first options in the league and see what happens with their stats. LOL.

[Deuce Bigalow]

You include all games. You can't just selectively take out some games.

Let's go back and take away all of the losing blow outs from all first options in the league and see what happens with their stats. LOL.
I didn't selectively take out games. Can you not read? I took out the games in which his team was blownout.

[jlauber]

Has there ever been an all-time great involved in more playoff blowout losses, than Kobe? His LAST games in some seasons were just unfathomable.

In 2003, 110-82.

In 2004, 100-87 (in a game in which they were down by 23 going into the 4th quarter.) Oh, and they were beaten 4-1 by an under-dog.

In 2006, 121-90 (and this after blowing a 3-1 series lead.)

In 2008, 131-92 (and how about blowing a 24 point lead in game four?)

In 2011, 122-86 (and being swept by an under-dog team)

In 2012, 106-90 (granted, Kobe finally had a great game.)

[tmacattack33]

I didn't selectively take out games. Can you not read? I took out the games in which his team was blownout.

And what legitimate reason do you have for doing that?

Were those 5 games (out of only 12 total, lol) not real games or something?

[tmacattack33]

Oh wow, OP you have been exposed...

Thanks to jlauber's post two posts above this, i just realized that OKC blew out LA 106-90 in 2012, yet you did not include this game in the list of blow outs that you want to disregard.

You kept it in because Kobe played good in it. :oldlol:





Way to be consistent, OP. You are truly unbiased and a great poster.

[tmacattack33]

Kobe's '03, '04, '06, '08, '11 Elimination games weren't even close, his team was blown out.

Here's his numbers in elimination games that were not blowouts:

'00 WCF, Game 7: 25 pts, 11 reb, 7 ast, .515 TS%, 4 blk (W)
'02 WCF, Game 6: 31 pts, 11 reb, 5 ast, .624 TS% (W)
'02 WCF, Game 7: 30 pts, 10 reb, 7 ast, .493 TS%, 2 stl (W)
'07 WCQF, Game 5: 34 pts, 4 reb, 1 ast, .471 TS% (L)
'10 Finals, Game 6: 26 pts, 11 reb, 3 ast, .589 TS%, 4 stl (W)
'10 Finals, Game 7: 23 pts, 15 reb, 2 ast, .376 TS% (W)
'12 WCSF, Game 5: 42 pts, 5 reb, 0 ast, .582 TS%, 2 stl (L)

7 Games: 30.1 PPG, 9.6 RPG, 3.6 APG, .516 TS%

Calculating his TS%:


Some people will say that in those blowout elimination games that Kobe was part of the problem. But that is not the case.

'08 Finals, Game 6 - The Lakers lost by 39.
Here is how Kobe started the Game.

End of 1st Quarter
Kobe - 11 points, 4 Made FGs
Rest of Lakers - 9 points, 1 MADE FG

And it all went downhill from the 2 Quarter
Halftime - Lakers down by 23
Kobe - 4 Made FGs
Rest of Lakers - 4 Made FGs

Kobe alone had the same amount of Made FGs as the rest of his teammates combined at Halftime.

'11 WCSF, Game 4 - The Lakers lost by 36
Here is how Kobe started the Game.

End of 1st Quarter
Kobe - 13 points, 6 Made FGs
Rest of Lakers- 10 points, 2 MADE FGs

Halftime - Lakers down by 24
Kobe - 7 Made FG
Rest of Lakers - 7 Made FGs

Kobe had made the same amount of FGs as the rest of his teammates combined at Halftime.

Get rid of that bolded game homie, it was a blow out loss for LA.

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[Deuce Bigalow]

The score was 83-77 entering the 4th Quarter.

Nice try though but you failed.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Has there ever been an all-time great involved in more playoff blowout losses, than Kobe? His LAST games in some seasons were just unfathomable.

In 2003, 110-82.

In 2004, 100-87 (in a game in which they were down by 23 going into the 4th quarter.) Oh, and they were beaten 4-1 by an under-dog.

In 2006, 121-90 (and this after blowing a 3-1 series lead.)

In 2008, 131-92 (and how about blowing a 24 point lead in game four?)

In 2011, 122-86 (and being swept by an under-dog team)

In 2012, 106-90 (granted, Kobe finally had a great game.)
'08 Finals, Game 6 - The Lakers lost by 39.
Here is how Kobe started the Game.

End of 1st Quarter
Kobe - 11 points, 4 Made FGs
Rest of Lakers - 9 points, 1 MADE FG

And it all went downhill from the 2 Quarter
Halftime - Lakers down by 23
Kobe - 4 Made FGs
Rest of Lakers - 4 Made FGs

Kobe alone had the same amount of Made FGs as the rest of his teammates combined at Halftime.

'11 WCSF, Game 4 - The Lakers lost by 36
Here is how Kobe started the Game.

End of 1st Quarter
Kobe - 13 points, 6 Made FGs
Rest of Lakers- 10 points, 2 MADE FGs

Halftime - Lakers down by 24
Kobe - 7 Made FG
Rest of Lakers - 7 Made FGs

Kobe had made the same amount of FGs as the rest of his teammates combined at Halftime.


Kobe had as much made Field Goals as the rest of your teammates combined at Halftime both those games

[tmacattack33]

The score was 83-77 entering the 4th Quarter.

Nice try though but you failed.

This thread and you disregarding games for no legitimate reason is a failure.

[jlauber]

'08 Finals, Game 6 - The Lakers lost by 39.
Here is how Kobe started the Game.

End of 1st Quarter
Kobe - 11 points, 4 Made FGs
Rest of Lakers - 9 points, 1 MADE FG

And it all went downhill from the 2 Quarter
Halftime - Lakers down by 23
Kobe - 4 Made FGs
Rest of Lakers - 4 Made FGs

Kobe alone had the same amount of Made FGs as the rest of his teammates combined at Halftime.

'11 WCSF, Game 4 - The Lakers lost by 36
Here is how Kobe started the Game.

End of 1st Quarter
Kobe - 13 points, 6 Made FGs
Rest of Lakers- 10 points, 2 MADE FGs

Halftime - Lakers down by 24
Kobe - 7 Made FG
Rest of Lakers - 7 Made FGs

Kobe had made the same amount of FGs as the rest of his teammates combined at Halftime.


Kobe had as much made Field Goals as the rest of your teammates combined at Halftime both those games

Go ahead and post his FG%'s in those games while you are at it.

Interesting that you give Kobe a "free pass" in blowout losses in which he generally played poorly, but then rip a Chamberlain who was dominating in close losses.

[Deuce Bigalow]

2006 1st Round - Game 7

Halftime
Kobe - 21 points, 8 Made FGs
Rest of Lakers - 24 points, 9 Made FGs

Kobe shot 50% for the game. Rest of his teammates 32%.

Odom 35%, 5 rebounds
Smush 31%
Kwame 20%, 5 rebounds

[Kblaze8855]

Im sure if I decided what I did and did not want to count I count make a lot of things look a lot of ways....

This reminds me of sir charles posting some garbage about Barkleys 2point shooting percentage as if Barkley missing 1500 threes didnt justify consideration.

[Mr. I'm So Rad]

Why do people even count the games in '03 and '04 against Kobe if they say Kobe wasn't even the first option/best player on his team?

[Kblaze8855]

Presumably the same reason so many who said Wade was the man in 2011 still talk about Lebrons performance.

[Colbertnation64]

How do you wake up and decide this is a good thread to post?

[DaSeba5]

Kobe stan exposed :lol

[AK47DR91]

whats wrong with TS%
Well, we know he's a great FT% shooter. It's also an uncontested shot.

Plus, once you know FGM-FGM you can pretty much figure out how a player got his points. TS% is just too general.

[NumberSix]

Has anybody ever noticed that Kobe stans are the ONLY people who will exclusively use TS%?

I've never seen people list other people's stats where they're fans ONLY use TS% and completely omit FG%.

Have you ever seen a LeBron, Jordan, Shaq, Hakeem, Wade, etc... fan list their stats in an obvious agenda post and ONLY include TS% while omitting FG%???

[StateOfMind12]

Has anybody ever noticed that Kobe stans are the ONLY people who will exclusively use TS%?

I've never seen people list other people's stats where they're fans ONLY use TS% and completely omit FG%.

Have you ever seen a LeBron, Jordan, Shaq, Hakeem, Wade, etc... fan list their stats in an obvious agenda post and ONLY include TS% while omitting FG%???
Yes. TS% is a better indicator of scoring efficiency than FG% is. I'm going to guess that you don't post or read any other basketball sites other than ISH.

[riseagainst]

just curious what is the final point differential for it to be termed a blowout?

[jlauber]

just curious what is the final point differential for it to be termed a blowout?

I would think that being down by 23 going into the 4th quarter, in a 13 point loss might qualify. And I would have to believe losing games by margins like 110-82, 121-90, 122-86, and 131-92 would also qualify.

[Hands of Iron]

Yes. TS% is a better indicator of scoring efficiency than FG% is. I'm going to guess that you don't post or read any other basketball sites other than ISH.

Shaq has the best TS% in elimination games than any player in the NBA since 1991 sans Dirk. And at a 28 PPG clip. From 98-03, 33 PPG. Wonder what it calculates out to for that. 60%+? That's justice. :oldlol:

[jlauber]

Shaq has the best TS% in elimination games than any player in the NBA since 1991 sans Dirk. And at a 28 PPG clip. From 98-03, 33 PPG. Wonder what it calculates out to for that. 60%+? That's justice. :oldlol:

Incidently, in Wilt's nine game seven's, he averaged 24.4 ppg, 26.3 rpg, and shot .626 from the field.

If you include his two other absolute elimination games (a game five in a best-of-five series, and a game three in a best-of-three series), Chamberlain averaged 29.9 ppg, 26.1 rpg, and shot .582 in his ELEVEN "absolute limit" games. BTW, his starting opposing centers averaged 9.8 ppg in those 11 games.

[Hands of Iron]

Chamberlain's a beast.

TS% -- Making perimeter players look better than they are. Except elimination games, where Shaq is the TS% Monster.

[Jax]

Yes. TS% is a better indicator of scoring efficiency than FG% is. I'm going to guess that you don't post or read any other basketball sites other than ISH.
Of course it isn't. If a player chucks all game, shoots 5/20 (25fg%),2layups and 3 three pointers(13points) and then scores all his FT's(13/13 100%) that the refs gave him just because...26 points total. Let's see that TS%-->50% :roll: :roll: :roll:
Doubled the damn fg% just because of the FT's :hammerhead:

[LongLiveTheKing]

Maybe the reason his teammates don't score is because he doesn't pass it to them! :lol

[jlauber]

TS% certainly has it's flaws. For one, players like Wilt and Shaq are penalized with poor FT shooting, even when they are scoring baskets with "and-one's" (or essentially BONUS shots.)

Secondly, how does this work?

In this past season, Tyson Chandler shot .679 from the field, .689 from the line, and 0-2 or .000 from the arc. Yet, he somehow comes out with a .708 TS%???

It would make more sense to reward a FG as a 2 point shot, and a FT as 1 point shot (and yes, a 3pt shot as a 3 pt shot.)

Or, Chandler went 241-353 from 2 pt shooting, or 482-706; 217-315 from the line, which would remain the same; and 0-2 from the arc, or 0-6.

That would result in 482 + 217 + 0 = 699. Out of 706 + 315 + 6 = 1027.

699/1027 = or .681.

[Hoopz2332]

Yes. TS% is a better indicator of scoring efficiency than FG% is. I'm going to guess that you don't post or read any other basketball sites other than ISH.


Hell no. Just give me the basic fg% which is shots made out of shots taken. That way we can see if the person is chucking/shooting too much.

[Deuce Bigalow]

I forgot '12 1st Round vs Denver game 7.
Added it.

[tmacattack33]

How about Game 7, Round 2 vs Houston, 2009?

Kobe stats: 4/13 FG, 14 pts....478 TS%...7 rebounds, 5 assists.


I suppose it doesn't count because LA blew Houston out?


LOL.

[Deuce Bigalow]

How about Game 7, Round 2 vs Houston, 2009?

Kobe stats: 4/13 FG, 14 pts....478 TS%...7 rebounds, 5 assists.


I suppose it doesn't count because LA blew Houston out?


LOL.
19 point win

10pt lead after 1st
20 pt lead after half

Never in doubt

I didn't put it in there because the title clearly says for the 3rd time already elimination games that were NOT BLOWOUTS

[DuMa]

cherry picking kobe playoff games to make him seem great :oldlol: these idiot savants continue to force a joke of a legend down our throats again?

[Heavincent]

cherry picking kobe playoff games to make him seem great :oldlol: these idiot savants continue to force a joke of a legend down our throats again?

There's no way you aren't legally retarded.

[Deuce Bigalow]

just curious what is the final point differential for it to be termed a blowout?
The final score doesn't usually tell you how the game was. The score entering the 4th quarter if it's 20+ then that's a blowout.

For example. 2004 Finals, Game 5 the Lakers lost by 13. Seems like it's not a blowout? Well it was. The Lakers were down by 23 entering the 4th, with the lead as high as 27 in the 3rd.

[tmacattack33]

19 point win

10pt lead after 1st
20 pt lead after half

Never in doubt

I didn't put it in there because the title clearly says for the 3rd time already elimination games that were NOT BLOWOUTS

I know. I was just pointing out that there was another elimination game that you needed to sweep under the rug.

[tmacattack33]

Mishap by OP, according to his own logic:

Spurs vs Lakers Game 6, 2003...the game was only a 4 point game after 1st half and a 9 point game after the 3rd quarter.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore;_ylt=AuaSJgmP81akXdtZo3aZoV4dPKB4?gid=200 3051513

Kobe stats: 20 points, .502 TS%, 2 rebounds, 6 assists, 7 turnovers (I see that you've left turnovers out altogether...hmm i wonder why)

:no:

[Deuce Bigalow]

Mishap by OP, according to his own logic:

Spurs vs Lakers Game 6, 2003...the game was only a 4 point game after 1st half and a 9 point game after the 3rd quarter.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore;_ylt=AuaSJgmP81akXdtZo3aZoV4dPKB4?gid=200 3051513

Kobe stats: 20 points, .502 TS%, 2 rebounds, 6 assists, 7 turnovers (I see that you've left turnovers out altogether...hmm i wonder why)

:no:
110-82

[talkingconch]

:facepalm

So basically... Kobe's elimination games discluding the bad ones.

I'm going go make a thread called "Ron Artest in elimination games, except for the ones he played poorly in". See ya there!
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[tmacattack33]

110-82

Yes, which is why i said "according to your own logic"...

...referencing the logic you used to discredit a point i made earlier to you where the final score was a blow out. You said it didn't matter though because the score after 3 quarters was close.

It was OKC Game 5 2012. You are keeping that game, because you say it was close throughout 3 quarter, even though the final score was a blow out.


So, what will it be sir:

1. The Final score of the game

or

2. The point differential throughout the game (namely, the differential after each quarter since that is what we can see off the box scores)?

[tmacattack33]

The score was 83-77 entering the 4th Quarter.

Nice try though but you failed.

Yup. But as u said a few posts above this about the Spurs game, let's ignore that (what the score was entering the 4th quarter) and only look at the final score.


:oldlol:




Great thread.

:applause:

[Deuce Bigalow]

Yes, which is why i said "according to your own logic"...

...referencing the logic you used to discredit a game I pointed out earlier to you where the final score was a blow out. You said it didn't matter though because the score after 3 quarters was close.


It was OKC Game 5 this year.



So, what will it be sir:

1. The Final score of the game

or

2. The point differential throughout the game (namely, the differential after each quarter since that is what we can see off the box scores)?
There are games where the final score is a 12 point lead, but the lead was as high as 24 during the game. Happens all the time since when a team gets a lead they rest the starters, or let up since they already won the game.
That is why the final score doesn't tell you everything, I was trying to explain that to you about the thunder game but I guess you didn't catch on.

[The Iron Fist]

There are games where the final score is a 12 point lead, but the lead was as high as 24 during the game. Happens all the time since when a team gets a lead they rest the starters, or let up since they already won the game.
That is why the final score doesn't tell you everything, I was trying to explain that to you about the thunder game but I guess you didn't catch on.
Hes a tmac fan. Didnt make it to the second paragraph.

[tmacattack33]

There are games where the final score is a 12 point lead, but the lead was as high as 24 during the game. Happens all the time since when a team gets a lead they rest the starters, or let up since they already won the game.
That is why the final score doesn't tell you everything, I was trying to explain that to you about the thunder game but I guess you didn't catch on.

Yes.

Obviously.

And if the final score is not the only thing that matters, then use that Spurs game.


Or, don't use that OKC game.


You're conflicting yourself.

[Deuce Bigalow]

And what I am trying to say is that if the final score is not the only thing that matters, then use that Spurs game.
It's close, but at that point you got to call it a blowout.

[tmacattack33]

It's close, but at that point you got to call it a blowout.

A 9 point game is a blow out?

Alright, i guess.

I mean, Kobe's stats aren't even that bad in that game so you might as well just use it for consistency (setting the number for a blow out at 15 would make sense...and then using it every time no matter what would be good). But okay whatever.


I gotta go. Thanks for arguing with me without making personal attacks or saying some dumb sh*t about t-mac.

[Punpun]

Hell no. Just give me the basic fg% which is shots made out of shots taken. That way we can see if the person is chucking/shooting too much.

Oh God. How can you know if a person is chucking when chucking is situational to the game itself. Numbers on a sheet won't tell you why the number is high. God, I can not believe oyu just wrote that.

:yaohappy:

[Deuce Bigalow]

A 9 point game is a blow out?

Alright, i guess.

I mean, Kobe's stats aren't even that bad in that game so you might as well just use it for consistency (setting the number for a blow out at 15 would make sense...and then using it every time no matter what would be good). But okay whatever.


I gotta go. Thanks for arguing with me without making personal attacks or saying some dumb sh*t about t-mac.
Alright, lol. I think I did diss T-Mac when arguing with you once before though.

[funnystuff]

It's real funny how Laker fans need to specify down to the littlest thing to even make Kobe look remotely good.

[thelucifer69]

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[LBJMVP]

what a f*ckin stupid thread.


pointing out elimination games that were not blowouts? jesus christ that is jesus pushing it.... i could pinpoint any players certain series of types of games and it would make them look bad....


god damn.

[LakersReign]

It's real funny how Laker fans need to specify down to the littlest thing to even make Kobe look remotely good.

As opposed to what exactly? Being a know nothing about basketball Lebron fan, who uses their [I]wealth[/I ]of basketball knowledge they gained by only watching the NBA since '03. Which is why they say ludicrous crap like Lebron's 1 title is supposedly >/= 5 or 6 titles, trying to make Lebron look good?:facepalm

[funnystuff]

As opposed to what exactly? Being a know nothing about basketball Lebron fan, who uses their [I]wealth[/I ]of basketball knowledge they gained by only watching the NBA since '03. Which is why they say ludicrous crap like Lebron's 1 title is supposedly >/= 5 or 6 titles, trying to make Lebron look good?:facepalm
Umm, as opposed to just facing ALL the cold hard facts/stats instead of leaving them out.

[funnystuff]

You mean like how Lebron fans TRY to leave out how many times Lebron...."king next MJ/chosen one" was eliminated from the playoffs, or how he only scored 8 points in the 2011 Finals, all cuz he FINALLY won title in 9 years? Those cold hard facts/stats?:hammerhead:
Every player gets eliminated from the playoffs(excluding non playoff teams) if they don't win it all. :oldlol:

But why bring up Lebron all the time?

Hey Reign, your insecurity is showing.

[funnystuff]

Just gotta love it how he(funnystuff) makes himself look stupid and AUTOMATICALLY goes for personal attacks, proving he was full of sh*t from jump. The only person here who's insecure is you making sh*t up as you went along....straight of that cliff....all by yourself:lol
How am I(funnystuff) personal attacking you(PsychoReign)?

[LakersReign]

AND....the little ret**ded child(funnystuff sock puppet) repeats like a pathetic parrot...AS USUAL...AT MY COMMAND....RIGHT ON CUE!!!! And it only took 3 of my supposedly unintentionally funny posts to make him a babbling idiot(funnystuff sock puppet):roll:

[StateOfMind12]

Hmm

funnystuff - 4 green bars and his avatar is of an adventure time character
LakersReign - 1 red bar and his avatar is something anime related.

:oldlol: I think we all know who we should take seriously between these two here.

[StateOfMind12]

rg/stateofmind/idefends = ZERO CREDIBILITY:facepalm


Good luck with all that:rolleyes:
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Next.

[funnystuff]

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[LakersReign]

Guess we can't all be "good posters" like you(rg/stateofmind/idefends/stateofthunder on REALGM), trying to be a mod, with 12,000,000,000,000 different sock puppet accounts on here....huh?:facepalm

Oh, and by the way, your boyfriend d**ksucki likes anime too, so why you dippin' on him like that? You do realize that "good posters" think BEFORE they post....right? So....there goes that ridiculous theory:lol

[MiamiThrice]

Lol @ "excluding" his blowout games.

Even when you take away his worst games he still averages 43% shooting from the field. Pathetic for a superstar player. Kobe Bryant has never won in the playoffs without a cast that was vastly superior to his opponents. The 2004 Spurs/Lakers series is the only series that could've gone either way. At the time it was pretty much thought of the winner of that series would win the title.

Some players are the shafts, and some players ride the shafts. Shaq was a shaft. LeBron is a shaft. Kobe? He rides shafts.

[MiamiThrice]

Guess we can't all be "good posters" like you(rg/stateofmind/idefends/stateofthunder on REALGM), trying to be a mod, with 12,000,000,000,000 different sock puppets accounts on here....huh? Oh, and by the way, your boyfriend d**ksucki likes anime too, so why you dippin' on him like that? You do realize that "good posters" think BEFORE they post....right?:roll:

StateofMind12 you should just ignore this little boy. Let him jerk off to his blue pube hentai, and tentacle porn so the big boys can discuss basketball. Don't think this guy has posted one post with actual discussion in the entire thread.

[StateOfMind12]

StateofMind12 you should just ignore this little boy. Let him jerk off to his blue pube hentai, and tentacle porn so the big boys can discuss basketball. Don't think this guy has posted one post with actual discussion in the entire thread.
Most people on this site have already ruled him as insane and the most hated poster on here anyways.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=270608

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=270513&page=6

I just wanted to remind everyone that funnystuff is clearly superior to this anime kid in every facet possible especially when it comes to discussing basketball. One guy has a cool adventure time avatar, this other guy has some queerish anime shit as his avatar.

I mean really? We don't even need reps to determine who has more credibility between the two in the case.

[LakersReign]

Yep....out of pure deperation...here comes the b.s "crazy" gimmick that worked so well he(rg/stateofmind) HAD TO "stuff the ballot box" with his sock puppet accounts, TRYING to make it look like he has credibility. Love it how I'm supposedly "crazy" simply cuz I REFUSE to buy into his bullcrap. Notice how he's so butthurt, he felt this URGENT NEED to go through all that over my supposedly unitentionally funny posts?:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[MiamiThrice]

Most people on this site have already ruled him as insane and the most hated poster on here anyways.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=270608

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=270513&page=6

I just wanted to remind everyone that funnystuff is clearly superior to this anime kid in every facet possible especially when it comes to discussing basketball. One guy has a cool adventure time avatar, this other guy has some queerish anime shit as his avatar.

I mean really? We don't even need reps to determine who has more credibility between the two in the case.

Damn looks like this guy is notorious for being some butthurt little boy who ends up raging and resorting to personal attacks when he is incapable of supporting his opinion with content of substance. Thanks for the heads up. I feel bad for that kids parents.

[LakersReign]

Nobody cares and hasn't cared since December 2011. Which is exactly why the dumba**(rg/stateofmind/idefends/stateofthunder on REAL GM) HAS TO keep posting that crap, since it's been working so well since then. Just gotta love it how I'm supposedly butthurt, when they're the ones mad as **** over my supposedly unintentionally funny posts, as they call them. More OBVIOUS lies. Good luck with all that.:rolleyes:

[StateOfMind12]

Damn looks like this guy is notorious for being some butthurt little boy who ends up raging and resorting to personal attacks when he is incapable of supporting his opinion with content of substance. Thanks for the heads up. I feel bad for that kids parents.
Yup, this guy is a Kobe stan too, not a Lakers fan.

I mean, he was rooting for the Celtics in the 2012 ECF over the Heat. You want to tell me what kind of Lakers fan roots for the Celtics? :lol

Plus, he gets butt-hurt on every Lebron/Kobe topic and comes in and posts in every thread to say Lebron sucks and isn't that good and Kobe is awesome and is underrated.



Oh yeah, and look at his user title....

"Lebronyte Soul Reaver"


http://gifsforum.com/images/gif/lol/grand/nxkih3.jpg.gif

[LakersReign]

Yeah....I know....right? That exactly what I do every single time i see you(rg/stateofmind/idefends) post your MADE UP crap about me.:oldlol:

Ok then, since you supposedly know so much about me why don't you post a pic of me and tell me what my real name is. This gon be good:lol

[MiamiThrice]

Yup, this guy is a Kobe stan too, not a Lakers fan.

I mean, he was rooting for the Celtics in the 2012 ECF over the Heat. You want to tell me what kind of Lakers fan roots for the Celtics? :lol

Plus, he gets butt-hurt on every Lebron/Kobe topic and comes in and posts in every thread to say Lebron sucks and isn't that good.



Oh yeah, and look at his user title....

"Lebronyte Soul Reaver"


http://gifsforum.com/images/gif/lol/grand/nxkih3.jpg.gif

Yeah Kobe fans don't care about the Lakers-Celtics rivalry. They just want to preserve Kobes place in the all-time rankings because their scared that LeBron is going to pass him. And if that means the Celtics gaining ground on the Lakers total championships it doesn't bother them one bit. The only thing they care about is an individual players legacy when he was never even as good as current LeBron at any point of his overrated career.

Lol yeah with "LeBronyte Soul Reaver" and that anime avatar we know he's not getting any pussie.

[NumberSix]

On 1 single page:


AND....the little ret**ded child(funnystuff sock puppet) repeats like a pathetic parrot...AS USUAL...AT MY COMMAND....RIGHT ON CUE!!!! And it only took 3 of my supposedly unintentionally funny posts to make him a babbling idiot(funnystuff sock puppet):roll:
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Guess we can't all be "good posters" like you(rg/stateofmind/idefends/stateofthunder on REALGM), trying to be a mod, with 12,000,000,000,000 different sock puppet accounts on here....huh?:facepalm

Oh, and by the way, your boyfriend d**ksucki likes anime too, so why you dippin' on him like that? You do realize that "good posters" think BEFORE they post....right? So....there goes that ridiculous theory:lol
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Yep....out of pure deperation...here comes the b.s "crazy" gimmick that worked so well he(rg/stateofmind) HAD TO "stuff the ballot box" with his sock puppet accounts, TRYING to make it look like he has credibility. Love it how I'm supposedly "crazy" simply cuz I REFUSE to buy into his bullcrap. Notice how he's so butthurt, he felt this URGENT NEED to go through all that over my supposedly unitentionally funny posts?:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Nobody cares and hasn't cared since December 2011. Which is exactly why the dumba** HAS TO keep posting that crap, since it's been working so well since then. Just gotta love it how I'm supposedly butthurt, when they're the ones mad as **** over my supposedly unintentionally funny posts, as they call them. More OBVIOUS lies. Good luck with all that.:rolleyes:
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InB4 more incoming revisions.

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[LakersReign]

Yeah Kobe fans don't care about the Lakers-Celtics rivalry. They just want to preserve Kobes place in the all-time rankings because their scared that LeBron is going to pass him. And if that means the Celtics gaining ground on the Lakers total championships it doesn't bother them one bit. The only thing they care about is an individual players legacy when he was never even as good as current LeBron at any point of his overrated career.

Lol yeah with "LeBronyte Soul Reaver" and that anime avatar we know he's not getting any pussie.

Yeah...cuz, according to you(miamithrice sock puppet), guys who have like 12,0000,000,0000 sock puppet accounts ALL OVER THE INTERNET, like rg/stateofmind/idefends) are real "chick magnets" GTFOH:lol

[PJR]

Lol yeah with "LeBronyte Soul Reaver" and that anime avatar we know he's not getting any pussie.


:roll: :roll:

[NumberSix]

Yeah...cuz guys who have like 12,0000,000,0000 sock puppet accounts ALL OVER THE INTERNET are real "chick magnets" GTFOH:roll:
^1st draft.:roll:


Yeah...cuz guys who have like 12,0000,000,0000 sock puppet accounts ALL OVER THE INTERNET, like rg/stateofmind/idefends) are real "chick magnets" GTFOH:roll:
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^2nd draft.:roll:

[Cali Syndicate]

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-po8Nqz84JJc/UDnToxR2MuI/AAAAAAAAACE/MwUV3QRCHUY/I/Kobe.Bryant.Elimination.Game.png

This is what matters for the thread.

[Cali Syndicate]

On 1 single page:


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InB4 more incoming revisions.

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I wonder what he will do after writing his essays during the entrance exams for college (I assume he's like 17 maybe 18?)? He'll turn it in then ask for it back, then turn it in, then ask for it back, and again and again and again....

[NumberSix]

AND....the supposed "bada**" rg/stateofmind/idefends), who supposedly knows so much about me, that he can supposedly tell me about myself, dips out like a scalded dog from this post. Big surprise:rolleyes:
Bladers, you forget to switch accounts? :hammerhead:

[StateOfMind12]

I wonder what he will do after writing his essays during the entrance exams for college (I assume he's like 17 maybe 18?)? He'll turn it in then ask for it back, then turn it in, then ask for it back, and again and again and again....
:applause: :roll: :roll: :roll:


Yeah Kobe fans don't care about the Lakers-Celtics rivalry. They just want to preserve Kobes place in the all-time rankings because their scared that LeBron is going to pass him. And if that means the Celtics gaining ground on the Lakers total championships it doesn't bother them one bit. The only thing they care about is an individual players legacy when he was never even as good as current LeBron at any point of his overrated career.

Agreed, it just makes it more obvious to distinguish who the Lakers fans are and who the Kobe dick suckers are. It's really obvious this queer with an anime avatar is just a Kobe dick sucker.



Lol yeah with "LeBronyte Soul Reaver" and that anime avatar we know he's not getting any pussie.
I really hope nobody is insane enough to question that. LakersReign should be put in a mental hospital but anyone who thinks LakersReign could get puss should definitely be sent to one with him.

[NumberSix]

I'm STILL waiting rg/stateofmind/idefends/stateofthunder on REALGM).....I'm STILL waiting:sleeping
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_lV-BpzOgpTo/SziwmmnxUpI/AAAAAAAAAe0/PYnzNVi2Tm4/s400/prodigy.jpg

[StateOfMind12]

I'm STILL waiting rg/stateofmind/idefends/stateofthunder on REALGM).....I'm STILL waiting:sleeping

(Now watch carefully as he(rg/stateofmind/idefends) continues to run away like a scalded dog, since he already knows exactly how full of sh*t he TRULY is):lol

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Having trouble finding a way to express yourself? :roll:


Username - LakersReign
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Next.

[NumberSix]

RUN...FORREST(rg/stateofmind/idefends)....RUN!!!!:roll:
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/24193493.jpg

[MiamiThrice]

Your balls already crawled up the crack of your a** and died, which is why you're(rg/stateofmind/idfends) running away like a scalded dog from this post?


I'm STILL waiting rg/stateofmind/idefends/stateofthunder on REALGM).....I'm STILL waiting:sleeping


rg/stateofmind/idefends + running away like a scalded dog from that post STILL = ZERO CREDIBILITY:applause:

I got one.

http://oi47.tinypic.com/crta9.jpg

[NumberSix]

(yawn):rolleyes:
http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/girls-hot-dogs-16.jpg

[LakersReign]

RUN....B***H(rg/stateofmind/idefends/stateofthunder on REALGM)....RUN!!!!:roll:

Oh and by the way, keep talking sh*t about anime, when your(rg) boyfriend d**ksucki rocks this:http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7986/fa998195bdf342a095a6895.png

The seriously sad part about all this, he's(rg) delusional enough to believe he STILL has credibility. Keeping in mind, all this is over my supposedly unintentionally funny posts they CLAIM(lie) I supposedly make. Which explains exactly why they've been mad as **** since December 2011. Pure hilarious stupidity(rg):facepalm

[Cherry Picker]

Cherry picking has been crazy this weekend

[RRR3]

Yeah....I know....right? That exactly what I do every single time i see you(rg/stateofmind/idefends) post your MADE UP crap about me.:oldlol:

Ok then, since you supposedly know so much about me why don't you post a pic of me and tell me what my real name is. This gon be good:lol
Your real name is Rob Fleming :lebronamazed:

[LakersReign]

Of course it is....cuz...wait...let me guess....cuz....you(rrr3) said so...right? Just like you(rrr3) also said my posts were so supposedly unintentionally funny, which explains why you and ALL your boyfriends are mad as **** whenever you've read them, since December 2011. ALL OBVIOUS LIES, that I'm suppose to be stupid enough to agree with, so it looks like you know me, cuz you(rrr3) CAN'T prove any of it otherwise?:roll:

Good luck with all that:rolleyes:

[raprap]

:lol lakersreign stuttering

[Horatio33]

LakersReign is MAD!

[Clifton]

Can't only use TS%, too much of a crutch bullshit stat.
Seconded.

The reason TS% isn't important is because a missed shot means a rebound for the other team; and a missed long shot means a rebound and a transition opportunity for the other team.

[Overdrive]

Kobe's '03, '04, '06, '08, '11 Elimination games weren't even close, his team was blown out.

Here's his numbers in elimination games that were not blowouts:

'00 WCF, Game 7: 25 pts, 11 reb, 7 ast, .515 TS%, 4 blk (W)
'02 WCF, Game 6: 31 pts, 11 reb, 5 ast, .624 TS% (W)
'02 WCF, Game 7: 30 pts, 10 reb, 7 ast, .493 TS%, 2 stl (W)
'07 WCQF, Game 5: 34 pts, 4 reb, 1 ast, .471 TS% (L)
'10 Finals, Game 6: 26 pts, 11 reb, 3 ast, .589 TS%, 4 stl (W)
'10 Finals, Game 7: 23 pts, 15 reb, 2 ast, .376 TS% (W)
'12 WCQF, Game 7: 17 pts, 1 reb, 8 ast, .479 TS% (W)
'12 WCSF, Game 5: 42 pts, 5 reb, 0 ast, .582 TS%, 2 stl (L)


Regarding the OKC game: OKC was up 6 by the end of the third, was up by 14 2 minutes in the 4th and never looked back. You're talking 'bout context, but this was a textbook type blowout.

Why do you include blowout wins, but not loses(only if Kobe plays well)?
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201006150LAL.html

Why don't you include the '97 Utah game, which was an OT game?

[Nero Tulip]

The length that Kobe fans will go to to fight the obvious :oldlol:

[ihoopallday]

The length that Kobe fans will go to to fight the obvious :oldlol:

This. :lol

[funnystuff]

Most people on this site have already ruled him as insane and the most hated poster on here anyways.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=270608

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=270513&page=6

I just wanted to remind everyone that funnystuff is clearly superior to this anime kid in every facet possible especially when it comes to discussing basketball. One guy has a cool adventure time avatar, this other guy has some queerish anime shit as his avatar.

I mean really? We don't even need reps to determine who has more credibility between the two in the case.
:cheers:

[kurple]

http://cdn.buzznet.com/assets/users16/mrbrownstone/default/duff-axl-slash--large-msg-117907900839.jpg


Axl: OP is a *******
Slash: LOL
Duff: Yep
:biggums:

[ZenMaster]

Of course it isn't. If a player chucks all game, shoots 5/20 (25fg%),2layups and 3 three pointers(13points) and then scores all his FT's(13/13 100%) that the refs gave him just because...26 points total. Let's see that TS%-->50% :roll: :roll: :roll:
Doubled the damn fg% just because of the FT's :hammerhead:

Try coaching a team with the mindset that FT's are given "just because", you'll be amazed at how often you lose in general and how often teams who you consider inferior in talent are playing up to your level.

FT's don't just happen "just because", they happen because the offense makes the defense to make a mistake that gets them out of position.

The opinion of FT's just being something that happens for no reason is unfortunately shared by a lot of people on ISH and it's one of the most stupid wide spread opinions of them all.

[RazorBaLade]

Seconded.

The reason TS% isn't important is because a missed shot means a rebound for the other team; and a missed long shot means a rebound and a transition opportunity for the other team.

but its ok to ignore that 3s are worth more than 2s?

[chips93]

The opinion of FT's just being something that happens for no reason is unfortunately shared by a lot of people on ISH and it's one of the most stupid wide spread opinions of them all.

MIAMI ONLY WON BECAUSE THEY GOT MORE FREE THROWS HERP DERP

[Hands of Iron]

Cherry picking has been crazy this weekend

:oldlol:

[Nevaeh]

but its ok to ignore that 3s are worth more than 2s?

If 3s are included with your overall FG%, and you're missing them, what difference does it make? It still is, and always will be, the lowest percentage shot in the game. How many players do you know who shoot 80% from 3, compared to players who shoot 80% from the free throw line?

[KingBeasley08]

damn Reigny deleted like 10 posts in this thread :roll:

[NumberSix]

damn Reigny deleted like 10 posts in this thread :roll:
He mad........... Like a muhfukka

[Deuce Bigalow]

I got so much negs from this thread :oldlol:

Here's one of the replies...

Obvious agenda is **** YOU, YOU STUPID SACK OF DONKEY *****! Seriously, your agenda is so obvious that you are either a retard or a very bad troll. Actually, either way you are a retard. I hope you get cancer in your ass. -Al Thornton
:roll:

[ZenMaster]

If 3s are included with your overall FG%, and you're missing them, what difference does it make? It still is, and always will be, the lowest percentage shot in the game. How many players do you know who shoot 80% from 3, compared to players who shoot 80% from the free throw line?

That doesn't explain why you shouldn't give them more worth when somebody makes them.

[tmacattack33]

That doesn't explain why you shouldn't give them more worth when somebody makes them.

I agree.

TS% is a good stat. The only issue u can have with it is with guys who get freebies off defensive 3 second calls and tec fouls...and it doesn't take into consideration if a free throw was an And 1 or not.

Those are minor issues though and would only really effect a few players...those who get an insane amount of And 1's and those who are the designated FT shooter for the team on defensive 3 sec and tec fouls.

[Lebron23]

damn Reigny deleted like 10 posts in this thread :roll:

:oldlol: :roll: :oldlol:

[OldSchoolBBall]

lol @ the topic citing only his numbers "in games that weren't blowouts." :oldlol: No agenda there...

[RaininTwos]

Deuce, not only did I see this coming, but this shit is just embarrassing bro.

Get your life together.