Dion Waiters on comparisons to Wade: "It makes me work harder to be better than him"

[PleezeBelieve]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ck9w2QiBPl8&feature=youtube_gdata_player



He's going to make a lot you dudes made this year.

ROY favorite. :applause:

[senelcoolidge]

This guy has high bust potential..I'm just letting that out. Talking crap doesn't help his cause.

[DTreats]

Dion already has a better 3pt shot/mid range jumper than Wade could ever dream of, he just has to work on finishing at the rim and he should have no problem being better than Wade.

[SourPatchKids]

He'd be lucky if he turns out to be half the player as Wade.



Loljk dude has potential.

[kurple]

wont happen. sorry bro

[iDunk]

He has a gut.

[tmacattack33]

Dion already has a better 3pt shot/mid range jumper than Wade could ever dream of, he just has to work on finishing at the rim and he should have no problem being better than Wade.

Wtf.

If he's going to have "no problem" being better than Wade (one of the best SG's of all time), then I guess he's going to be as good as MJ.

So you've heard it here first people. Dion Waters is going to be as good as MJ.

[Punpun]

Is It Me Or He Wears Kobe Shoes On That Vid ?

[kurple]

Is It Me Or He Wears Kobe Shoes On That Vid ?
who was the guy that wrote like that all the time?

[GOBB]

Wtf.

If he's going to have "no problem" being better than Wade (one of the best SG's of all time), then I guess he's going to be as good as MJ.

So you've heard it here first people. Dion Waters is going to be as good as MJ.

This x10101

[DTreats]

Wtf.

If he's going to have "no problem" being better than Wade (one of the best SG's of all time), then I guess he's going to be as good as MJ.

So you've heard it here first people. Dion Waters is going to be as good as MJ.
Are you insinuating that Wade is anywhere near Michael freaking Jordan?

Wade is not a top tier shooting guard of all time, or even 2nd I'd say he's 3rd tier.. so he can't even sniff Jordans jockstrap, or Kobe's/West for that matter

1: Jordan
2: Kobe, West
3. Drexler, AI, Wade, Iceman, Pearl

So yeah, Dion has dynamic potential, if he works hard he has the talent to join that 3rd tier if everything falls into place, his footwork and knowledge of the game is elite, he shoots well, he's a good passer, awesome on ball defender, his ability to get to the hole is spectacular, he needs to get better at finishing when he gets there but that will come with time and experience.

[lilgodfather1]

Waiters has very high potential. I like to compare him to Westbrook. Both seen as a reach at the time, both around the same height, and physical attributes (Westbrook is faster though). Dion is a better shooter, but their IQ's seem to be similar.

However, as Westbrook he has very high bust potential. Westbrook didn't bust, but Dion might. If he doesn't then the Cavs may have formed the next great back court in NBA history.

[DTreats]

Current Wade is 10x the player Waiters ever will be.
Current Wade just jumped on LeBrons back and rode him to a ring

Current Wade will likely average 19/5/4 this year on easily sub 50 percent from the field, based solely on average decline play of past players

If you don't think that Dion has the potential to CRUSH those numbers then you know nothing about the guy, you've obviously never seen him play, you just came in here and contributed nothing to this thread, as usual.

[DukeDelonte13]

I'm very excited to see this guy on the court w/ Kyrie. Dion was Byron's Scott's pick all the way. Scott raves about him.

[Punpun]

AT 0:22. HE WEARS KOBE SHOES. UR WELCOME.

:yaohappy:

[DStebb716]

This guy has high bust potential..I'm just letting that out. Talking crap doesn't help his cause.

How is this talking crap? Man, ***** fans these days. :facepalm

[DStebb716]

who cares if he wears kobe shoes? when i walk into a place looking for shoes, i don't check the name. i check the look and feel. means nothing.

[Punpun]

That's just you tho. You're welcome bruh.

[tmacattack33]

Are you insinuating that Wade is anywhere near Michael freaking Jordan?

Wade is not a top tier shooting guard of all time, or even 2nd I'd say he's 3rd tier.. so he can't even sniff Jordans jockstrap, or Kobe's/West for that matter

1: Jordan
2: Kobe, West
3. Drexler, AI, Wade, Iceman, Pearl

So yeah, Dion has dynamic potential, if he works hard he has the talent to join that 3rd tier if everything falls into place, his footwork and knowledge of the game is elite, he shoots well, he's a good passer, awesome on ball defender, his ability to get to the hole is spectacular, he needs to get better at finishing when he gets there but that will come with time and experience.

:biggums:

Wade is two spots behind MJ out of the 1,000s of NBA shooting guards ever.

Dion Waters would be very fortunate to be in the top 200 out of that 1,000+, let alone the top 3.

[Dwade305]

Wade is a tough comparison, cant really remember alot of 25-5-5 guards with no jumpshot.:confusedshrug:

[PleezeBelieve]

Dion plays with a very high IQ. Don't know where you all get off with these comments

[DTreats]

Wade is a tough comparison, cant really remember alot of 25-5-5 guards with no jumpshot.:confusedshrug:
well wade is 1 example

it's not hard when you get every ticky tack call from the refs

[Nash]

Better than D-Wade :lol This dude was garbage in the summer league. Yeah, a 6th man from Syracuse will be better than the 3rd best SG in the history of the game. Sounds legit.

[G-train]

Get in shape and play an NBA game first son.

[G-train]

well wade is 1 example

it's not hard when you get every ticky tack call from the refs

Your knowledge of basketball is basically zero.

When are you going to be banned, every post is trolling.

[KyrieTheFuture]

I've never seen a bigger boom or bust pick (granted it's only been a few years) but I have hopes. It's probably homer bias due to me being both a Syracuse and Cleveland fan. Honestly, if he can finish even a bit better at the rim, he will be much better. His biggest problem to me is he doesn't know how to use the rim as a shield from blockers. He rarely goes to the sides of the basket he usually just rolls it, flicks it up, or just goes off the backboard.

[jbryan1984]

And that is the response a Cavs fan loves to hear.

[KG215]

ROY favorite? Did Anthony Davis decide not to play this season?

[outbreak]

I'd like to see him succeed. Not sure he will though. Isn't he the guy who turned up to summer league and scouts and execs said he was fat and out of shape? Bad signs if you can't even get in shape for summer camp, most guys work their asses off early in their career.

[KyrieTheFuture]

ROY favorite? Did Anthony Davis decide not to play this season?
You think Davis will be ROY? I'm not buying Dion being it either but I don't think Davis will be offensively gifted enough to warrant it. I could be wrong, I hope I am, I love Davis he's a great guy.

[PleezeBelieve]

I'd like to see him succeed. Not sure he will though. Isn't he the guy who turned up to summer league and scouts and execs said he was fat and out of shape? Bad signs if you can't even get in shape for summer camp, most guys work their asses off early in their career.
Shut up

[outbreak]

Shut up
Contribute to the discussion or go be a fan boy else where. If a player turns up out of shape at such a big moment in their career it's not the best sign. I want him to succeed and will be watching him this season. I'm just stating my opinion and the facts of what happened.

[midatlantic09]

If Cleveland can keep him focused and away from fast food joints in Cleveland and while on the road, he may end up having a very solid rookie season.

[senelcoolidge]

Great players are hungry..not hungry for the buffet, but hungry to be the best. They work hard, this guy doesn't seem to have a great work ethic. Too much hype also. High bust potential!

[PleezeBelieve]

You dudes are idiots. SMFH

This guy will have one of the best first steps in the league the moment he suits up for the first time. That in addition to his advanced ball handling and passing skills will make him a terror on the wing.

I mean, I know I'm me and you're you, but damn, some of ya'll sounding very elementary right now.

And for the record, I had to do my research on Dion. A couple of guys around here were on him before me. Props to them.

[coin24]

You dudes are idiots. SMFH

This guy will have one of the best first steps in the league the moment he suits up for the first time. That in addition to his advanced ball handling and passing skills will make him a terror on the wing.

I mean, I know I'm me and you're you, but damn, some of ya'll sounding very elementary right now.

And for the record, I had to do my research on Dion. A couple of guys around here were on him before me. Props to them.


Bust.

[Rubio2Gasol]

Looked like utter garbage in summerleague , not that it means that much .

I'll just wait and see , I dont like to hype you players who really haven't done that much.

I think Lillard will be ROY tho.

[DukeDelonte13]

he suffered an ankle injury prior to summer league and that was supposedly the reason that his agent shut him down for all the workouts. He came into the summer league fine, but was out of shape. He did "too much in too little time" according to the cavs staff prior to the games and did not play at his full potential.


I don't think he has a high bust potential, rather i think his floor is an above average starting SG.

[SilkkTheShocker]

I liked the Thompson pick last season. Not sure I understand why they took Waiters over Barnes.

[longtime lurker]

A bench player in college and he goes high lottery. Sounds like Marvin Williams all over again.

[SilkkTheShocker]

he suffered an ankle injury prior to summer league and that was supposedly the reason that his agent shut him down for all the workouts. He came into the summer league fine, but was out of shape. He did "too much in too little time" according to the cavs staff prior to the games and did not play at his full potential.


I don't think he has a high bust potential, rather i think his floor is an above average starting SG.


You also said Sullinger wasn't considered a top 5 prospect before the 2011 Draft.

[DukeDelonte13]

You also said Sullinger wasn't considered a top 5 prospect before the 2011 Draft.


yeah i still stand by that. It wasn't like there wasn't any question marks about his game, especially his effort, maturity, and his effectiveness against NBA level athleticism.

EDIT: If you are so sure that he would have gone top 5, then why didn't he declare?

[DukeDelonte13]

I liked the Thompson pick last season. Not sure I understand why they took Waiters over Barnes.


They took him over Barnes cause they wanted a wing that could create offense. I'm not saying Waiters >> Barnes, but they liked his skill set better and felt that he would complement the team in a way that Barnes couldn't.

[SilkkTheShocker]

yeah i still stand by that. It wasn't like there wasn't any question marks about his game, especially his effort, maturity, and his effectiveness against NBA level athleticism.

EDIT: If you are so sure that he would have gone top 5, then why didn't he declare?


He was considered top 3-4 with Irving, Barnes, and later Williams. He didn't declare because he wanted to lead OSU to a title. He even said he wasn't ready to leave. They lost a tough game due to Brandon Knight hitting a clutch jumper. Do you know how weak the 2011 draft was? At worst he slips to 6.

[niko]

You dudes are idiots. SMFH

This guy will have one of the best first steps in the league the moment he suits up for the first time. That in addition to his advanced ball handling and passing skills will make him a terror on the wing.

I mean, I know I'm me and you're you, but damn, some of ya'll sounding very elementary right now.

And for the record, I had to do my research on Dion. A couple of guys around here were on him before me. Props to them.

That's why none of us are listening to anything you write. You are basically implying he will be better than Wade with literally nothing to back it up except you looked at him and think he's good. You are really consistent, unfortunately that's consistently wrong.

[PleezeBelieve]

That's why none of us are listening to anything you write. You are basically implying he will be better than Wade with literally nothing to back it up except you looked at him and think he's good. You are really consistent, unfortunately that's consistently wrong.
I've already told you why he's going go be good:

First step
Explosiveness
In between dribble ability
Shoot from all places on the floor
Great passer for a wing
Fast hands
Tough at the point of attack defensively and offensively


Now go back into denial.

[niko]

I've already told you why he's going go be good:

First step
Explosiveness
In between dribble ability
Shoot from all places on the floor
Great passer for a wing
Fast hands
Tough at the point of attack defensively and offensively


Now go back into denial.

Yes, i'm in denial because I don't want him to be good for some reason. What reason would that be? If he does become a star, there's more chance of him being a Knick when he hits FA than staying a Cav. Win win all around.

[b1imtf]

Wtf lol

[DukeDelonte13]

He was considered top 3-4 with Irving, Barnes, and later Williams. He didn't declare because he wanted to lead OSU to a title. He even said he wasn't ready to leave. They lost a tough game due to Brandon Knight hitting a clutch jumper. Do you know how weak the 2011 draft was? At worst he slips to 6.


By your estimation Sully and his agent just straight up left a million or 2 million bucks on the table to play college hoops for another season. :rolleyes: Agents aren't stupid. Believe me, if he was a sure fire top 5 pick, he would have declared. No agent in their right mind would tell a potential top 5 pick to stay and play college for another year.

[Punpun]

By your estimation Sully and his agent just straight up left a million or 2 million bucks on the table to play college hoops for another season. :rolleyes: Agents aren't stupid. Believe me, if he was a sure fire top 5 pick, he would have declared. No agent in their right mind would tell a potential top 5 pick to stay and play college for another year.

B-but I thought players would be better off by staying more years in college.

[TheNaturalWR]

He'd be lucky if he turns out to be half the player as Wade.



Loljk dude has potential.

You should remove the "jk" part. He would be lucky if he turned out to be half the player Wade is. As for being better than Wade? Keep dreaming.

[GOBB]

By your estimation Sully and his agent just straight up left a million or 2 million bucks on the table to play college hoops for another season. :rolleyes: Agents aren't stupid. Believe me, if he was a sure fire top 5 pick, he would have declared. No agent in their right mind would tell a potential top 5 pick to stay and play college for another year.

What are you babbling about? You're still wrong in this case as usual. The hilarious part is there are tons of article labelling Sully as a top 5 picks. There are aticles after this past draft talkin about how he hurt himself not declaring last draft.


"Obviously we needed to address size," Celtics coach Doc Rivers said. "The fact that number one, Jared Sullinger fell to us, is just fortunate. Last year he would have a been a top-5 pick. It gives us a rebounder, a high IQ player, a good player, a really good player from the outside."

Pery Jones another top lottery pick that stayed. But no agent in their right mind would tell a poential top 5 pick to stay right? Harrison Barnes another top lottery pick that stayed. Bt no agent in their right mind....ah hell you simply arent bright. :rolleyes:

Prospects stayed in school with the threat of an NBA lockout looming. Those that declared took advantage going higher than they would have.


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/rob_dauster/06/27/Jared-Sullinger-Perry-Jones-draft/index.html?eref=sihp&sct=hp_t11_a2

^^^article suggesting that worst case scenerio for Sully and PJII was lottery. Best case neither slips out of the top 5 in 2011 draft.

Do you want me to continue proving how Sully weas regarded as a top 5 pick? Wait I did all of this and you continue to spew this nonsense. Classic case of someone being wrong but refuses to accept a loss.


Just like your logic that Kyrie Irving was the best college player despite only playing 11gms. :roll:

You can lead a jackass errrr mule to the water but you cant make the mofo drink.

[LikeABosh]

I can't believe how underrated Wade has gotten on here.

[DukeDelonte13]

What are you babbling about? You're still wrong in this case as usual. The hilarious part is there are tons of article labelling Sully as a top 5 picks. There are aticles after this past draft talkin about how he hurt himself not declaring last draft.



Pery Jones another top lottery pick that stayed. But no agent in their right mind would tell a poential top 5 pick to stay right? Harrison Barnes another top lottery pick that stayed. Bt no agent in their right mind....ah hell you simply arent bright. :rolleyes:

Prospects stayed in school with the threat of an NBA lockout looming. Those that declared took advantage going higher than they would have.


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/rob_dauster/06/27/Jared-Sullinger-Perry-Jones-draft/index.html?eref=sihp&sct=hp_t11_a2

^^^article suggesting that worst case scenerio for Sully and PJII was lottery. Best case neither slips out of the top 5 in 2011 draft.

Do you want me to continue proving how Sully weas regarded as a top 5 pick? Wait I did all of this and you continue to spew this nonsense. Classic case of someone being wrong but refuses to accept a loss.


Just like your logic that Kyrie Irving was the best college player despite only playing 11gms. :roll:

You can lead a jackass errrr mule to the water but you cant make the mofo drink.

So you "proved" your argument by showing me a Doc Rivers quote saying he woulda been a top 5 pick last year. If I show you a quote from Byron Scott saying Dion should have been the 2nd pick in the draft does that mean Dion was a top 2 prospect?

No way Sully woulda went top 5 last year. No goddamn way. There WERE tons of articles proclaiming him a top 5 at the beginning of the season, but towards the end most mocks i remember had him in the 7-12 range.

And do you understand rookie pay scale? It doesn't seem like you do. Thats why it would have been utterly MORONIC for an agent to hold back any top tier draftee to play another year in college.

Again, so eager to prove somebody wrong on an internet forum..... :oldlol: Its comical (especially considering how much goddamn time you spend on the forum) Get a life homie.

[Fiasco]

I stopped reading at "better jump shot"

[DTreats]

I stopped reading at "better jump shot"
Wade's last year at Marquette:

Mid-range:32%(133 attempts)
Within 5 feet: 56%(98 attempts)

Dion's last year at 'Cuse:

Mid-range:49%(119 attempts)
Within 5 feet 44%(74 attempts)


Soo,,,yea.

[wang4three]

Randy Foye was compared to Wade coming out of college too. He was supposed to be the better jumper shooter as well.

[Kobe 4 The Win]

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little concerned about his weight.

[RedBlackAttack]

I can't figure out which is a dumber position... Saying he will be equal to or better than Dwyane Wade before he plays a single NBA regular season game or calling him a bust because of something you saw in the Summer League.

Two ends of the idiot spectrum.

[fpliii]

Wade's last year at Marquette:

Mid-range:32%(133 attempts)
Within 5 feet: 56%(98 attempts)

Dion's last year at 'Cuse:

Mid-range:49%(119 attempts)
Within 5 feet 44%(74 attempts)


Soo,,,yea.

where can I find college shooting stats by distance? there are a few players I want to look up

[DTreats]

Randy Foye was compared to Wade coming out of college too. He was supposed to be the better jumper shooter as well.
Foye is a dumbass, black hole type player.

Dion is very bright, unselfish, etc.

Nice try though,,

[GOBB]

So you "proved" your argument by showing me a Doc Rivers quote saying he woulda been a top 5 pick last year.

Common sense would ask you "What made Rivers make that claim" and I gurantee it will point to th numerous reports Sully was a top 5 pck in 2011. Start using the common sense GOD gave you.


No way Sully woulda went top 5 last year. No goddamn way. There WERE tons of articles proclaiming him a top 5 at the beginning of the season, but towards the end most mocks i remember had him in the 7-12 range.

Show the mocks because they arent deleted from the internet. :roll:

7-12 over who? Who did those mcks have going over him. This oughta be funny. Why is it only YOU remember these so called mocks? Hope you didnt get them from bleacher report.


And do you understand rookie pay scale? It doesn't seem like you do. Thats why it would have been utterly MORONIC for an agent to hold back any top tier draftee to play another year in college.

Yet no answer to why NUMEROUS TOP PICKS styed in school. In fact you claimed Sully was mocked at 7-12. Yet he returned to school only to go where? How much money did he lose? You talk rookie pay scale and here it is Harrison Barnes, Perry Jones, Sully stayed a year.

Terrence Jones another prospect who lost money.

Explain why these kids went to school for another year?


Again, so eager to prove somebody wrong on an internet forum..... :oldlol: Its comical (especially considering how much goddamn time you spend on the forum) Get a life homie.

I've proven you wrong as has others. I enjoy watching you refuse to admit being wrong in spite. Hilarious. You've provided nothing to support your stuff besides "I remember".

I spend far less time on here than you seem to think. Guess that remark comes from not having much else to say. Which is normal with you.

[lilgodfather1]

Common sense would ask you "What made Rivers make that claim" and I gurantee it will point to th numerous reports Sully was a top 5 pck in 2011. Start using the common sense GOD gave you.



Show the mocks because they arent deleted from the internet. :roll:

7-12 over who? Who did those mcks have going over him. This oughta be funny. Why is it only YOU remember these so called mocks? Hope you didnt get them from bleacher report.



Yet no answer to why NUMEROUS TOP PICKS styed in school. In fact you claimed Sully was mocked at 7-12. Yet he returned to school only to go where? How much money did he lose? You talk rookie pay scale and here it is Harrison Barnes, Perry Jones, Sully stayed a year.

Terrence Jones another prospect who lost money.

Explain why these kids went to school for another year?



I've proven you wrong as has others. I enjoy watching you refuse to admit being wrong in spite. Hilarious. You've provided nothing to support your stuff besides "I remember".

I spend far less time on here than you seem to think. Guess that remark comes from not having much else to say. Which is normal with you.
I'm pretty sure that I can explain why those players went back to school with one five letter word that will be bleeped out if I type it in. P/U/S/S/Y is a great reason to go back to school. College girls are hotter than late 20's NBA gold diggers.

[outbreak]

Barnes said he was going back because the lock out gave him a chance to win a title. I believe Sullinger said he was going back because of the lock out aswell. Which is a pretty obvious reason if you use your brain for once. Remember at this time all the doom and gloom reports were saying the NBA season would be cancelled? Declaring would mean a year of sitting around waiting with no communication between you and your team and no access to your practice facilities. I guess most guys expected to go back and improve their stock.

[GOBB]

Barnes said he was going back because the lock out gave him a chance to win a title. I believe Sullinger said he was going back because of the lock out aswell. Which is a pretty obvious reason if you use your brain for once. Remember at this time all the doom and gloom reports were saying the NBA season would be cancelled? Declaring would mean a year of sitting around waiting with no communication between you and your team and no access to your practice facilities. I guess most guys expected to go back and improve their stock.

Too bad its not as obvious for...




By your estimation Sully and his agent just straight up left a million or 2 million bucks on the table to play college hoops for another season. Agents aren't stupid. Believe me, if he was a sure fire top 5 pick, he would have declared. No agent in their right mind would tell a potential top 5 pick to stay and play college for another year.

:roll:

I guess Sully, Barnes, PJIII, T.Jones agents are out of their minds since thse guys went back to school.