Worst NBA Franchise Not Named the Clippers

[SilkkTheShocker]

which franchise is the 2nd worst since the Clippers will never be topped.

[bagelred]

In b4 Knick haters.

[OmniStrife]

Hornets. For not letting us have Gordon. :mad:

[jbryan1984]

In terms of history, its Bobcats hands down but they have not really been in the league a long time. Wolves would probably be next, they have been around bout 25 years now so that's long enough for the argument.

[KOBE143]

Heat coz they have The Choker One..

[DTreats]

San Diego clippers

[SilkkTheShocker]

In b4 Knick haters.


Two titles keeps them out of the running imo.

[SpecialQue]

Every single thing OP posts is dogshit. It's amazing. You'd think at least one decent post would slip out by accident.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Every single thing OP posts is dogshit. It's amazing. You'd think at least one decent post would slip out by accident.


No one is forcing you to post, f.aggot

[b1imtf]

Kings

[kurple]

Knicks.. Being that bad for such a long time with the location and money they got is pretty impressive actually

other franchises have had less sucsess, but you couldnt expect much more from them

[SpecialQue]

No one is forcing you to post, f.aggot

:coleman:

[rwfletch22]

Orlando Magic :confusedshrug:

[East_Stone_Ya]

Wolves

[Sarcastic]

Knicks.. Being that bad for such a long time with the location and money they got is pretty impressive actually

other franchises have had less sucsess, but you couldnt expect much more from them


Location and money have nothing to do with winning.

Denver went 8 years without making the playoffs, and had never gotten past the second round before Carmelo Anthony showed up.



My vote goes to the Milwaukee Bucks though. Probably the most forgotten franchise in the NBA.

[DTreats]

Had they never gotten Melo, the Nuggets would be the Clips.

[MavsSuperFan]

Location and money have nothing to do with winning.

Denver went 8 years without making the playoffs, and had never gotten past the second round before Carmelo Anthony showed up.



My vote goes to the Milwaukee Bucks though. Probably the most forgotten franchise in the NBA.

Having a large market, ensures that you can spend as much as you want and incur the luxury tax and still be profitable. NY is a location, and many players would want the fame and accolades that go along with succeeding in NY. It's amazing the Knicks arent up there with the lakers.

[00playboy00]

Raptors when we drafted Bargani and im from Toronto

[Sarcastic]

Having a large market, ensures that you can spend as much as you want and incur the luxury tax and still be profitable. NY is a location, and many players would want the fame and accolades that go along with succeeding in NY. It's amazing the Knicks arent up there with the lakers.

Kind of like the Clippers, right? Big market = winning franchise. :facepalm


The NBA's CBA is built specifically to prevent the large markets from flexing their wallets. Otherwise how would a team like the Spurs or Thunder ever have success?

[NuggetsFan]

Location and money have nothing to do with winning.

Denver went 8 years without making the playoffs, and had never gotten past the second round before Carmelo Anthony showed up.



My vote goes to the Milwaukee Bucks though. Probably the most forgotten franchise in the NBA.

Yeah Dolan being willing to spend whatever means nothing. Melo wanting to go play for NY instead of wanting to play for Milwaukee means nothing. Not like NY showed they were winners anytime recently. Good management is far more important than location, but different teams have different budgets and certain players will always prefer a certain location over others.

PHX couldn't do what the Lakers are doing right now. They wouldn't be paying Nash, Kobe, Howard, Pau with the new lux tax rules.

[Sarcastic]

Yeah Dolan being willing to spend whatever means nothing. Melo wanting to go play for NY instead of wanting to play for Milwaukee means nothing. Not like NY showed they were winners anytime recently. Good management is far more important than location, but different teams have different budgets and certain players will always prefer a certain location over others.

PHX couldn't do what the Lakers are doing right now. They wouldn't be paying Nash, Kobe, Howard, Pau with the new lux tax rules.


Did the Rockets not just sign Jeremy Lin away from the Knicks, and did the Knicks decide not to match because of a poison pill payment?

What happened to "spend whatever"?


Phoenix couldn't do what the Lakers are doing, but Portland could. Is Portland big?

[NuggetsFan]

Kind of like the Clippers, right? Big market = winning franchise. :facepalm


The NBA's CBA is built specifically to prevent the large markets from flexing their wallets. Otherwise how would a team like the Spurs or Thunder ever have success?

Dude it's pretty simple. Why was Melo asking for a trade to NY and not Indiana? Why was Howard asking to go to L.A or Brooklyn instead of Denver or Milwaukee?

Certain players will always prefer to play in the bigger, more popular markets than the smaller ones. Forget living in New York instead of Minny, but they simply make more money off endorsements. Won't happen 10\10 times but it's still an advantage.

[NuggetsFan]

Did the Rockets not just sign Jeremy Lin away from the Knicks, and did the Knicks decide not to match because of a poison pill payment?

What happened to "spend whatever"?

Clearly you just started watching the New York Knicks. Probably didn't match Lin because they've seen what happens when you just throw money at unproven players or risky guy's. That's good management, which I've already said is waaaaay more important than market.

Kidding yourself if the move was 100% money. NY will go into lux tax way before a team like PHX will. They won't sell their draft picks off or not re-sign players like other owners have shown.

I don't get why people get so upset over this. It's not a huge deal, but there's an advantage. You can overcome it with a good FO like S.A and OKC have done, mainly with hitting on your picks and getting those big time players. Minnesota won't attract players like New York, that's a fact. If both teams are run to perfection .. a guy like Carmelo wants NY 10\10 over Minny.

[Sarcastic]

Dude it's pretty simple. Why was Melo asking for a trade to NY and not Indiana? Why was Howard asking to go to L.A or Brooklyn instead of Denver or Milwaukee?

Certain players will always prefer to play in the bigger, more popular markets than the smaller ones. Forget living in New York instead of Minny, but they simply make more money off endorsements. Won't happen 10\10 times but it's still an advantage.


Anecdotal evidence does not prove that all stars want to play in big markets.

For every Melo or Dwight, there is a Duncan or Durant.

[Sarcastic]

Clearly you just started watching the New York Knicks. Probably didn't match Lin because they've seen what happens when you just throw money at unproven players or risky guy's. That's good management, which I've already said is waaaaay more important than market.

Kidding yourself if the move was 100% money. NY will go into lux tax way before a team like PHX will. They won't sell their draft picks off or not re-sign players like other owners have shown.

I don't get why people get so upset over this. It's not a huge deal, but there's an advantage. You can overcome it with a good FO like S.A and OKC have done, mainly with hitting on your picks and getting those big time players. Minnesota won't attract players like New York, that's a fact. If both teams are run to perfection .. a guy like Carmelo wants NY 10\10 over Minny.


Signing Lin would have made ZERO impact on the cap, and their ability to sign other players. The decision to not sign him was purely financial, and had to do with not wanting to pay $50 million in luxury tax on him. The Knicks are over the cap till 2014, and that is when his contract would have been through. Again, signing him would have no effect on any other players.

[SpecialQue]

I'd like to think that most of the time athletes will stay on a team with smart management that at least tries to make them a contender. How often has a player walked away from a title contender just because they were in a small market?

[NuggetsFan]

Anecdotal evidence does not prove that all stars want to play in big markets.

For every Melo or Dwight, there is a Duncan or Durant.

Duncan or Durant haven't forced a trade tho? I don't get it. Some players will simply not do what Melo or Dwight did, not because of market. I'm not saying every single player wants to play in a big market. I've never heard of a player forcing his way to Minny tho.

Whatever. NY has no advantage. Having an owner who has showed that money isn't an option. Playing in one of the best cities in the entire world doesn't matter one bit. Making waaaay more money off endorsements\having your popularity skyrocket doesn't mean anything. Wasn't Nate Robinson in top 10 for jersey sales when he played for NY? That's f*cking crazy.

Not everything is an extreme example, and good FO is far more important than anything else and market size isn't a reason why a team will fail or succeed. Doesn't mean they don't get a little push for time to time. Denver Nuggets haven't had a superstar saying I only want to play for you guy's trade me there. NY has. That alone shows NY has had one advantage due to market.

[Sarcastic]

All the money from jersey sales is evenly distributed to all 30 teams.

How many times has Grant Hill talked to the Knicks about signing, and then signed elsewhere? I can't even keep count anymore.

[NuggetsFan]

Signing Lin would have made ZERO impact on the cap, and their ability to sign other players. The decision to not sign him was purely financial, and had to do with not wanting to pay $50 million in luxury tax on him. The Knicks are over the cap till 2014, and that is when his contract would have been through. Again, signing him would have no effect on any other players.

Except for when your paying a guy a ridiculous contract for half a season worth of good play? I don't understand why NY didn't sign him for the reasons listed but James Dolan isn't afraid of opening up his check book. Maybe NY's FO just didn't think he was worth it and walked away from a contract for the first time in their life :confusedshrug:

Either way are you seriously trying to argue with me NY wouldn't pay the lux tax or that they wouldn't spend more money than a team like PHX? Seriously are you that f*cking stupid? .. New York Knicks, been saving money since '01 :oldlol:

[Sarcastic]

Duncan or Durant haven't forced a trade tho? I don't get it. Some players will simply not do what Melo or Dwight did, not because of market. I'm not saying every single player wants to play in a big market. I've never heard of a player forcing his way to Minny tho.

Whatever. NY has no advantage. Having an owner who has showed that money isn't an option. Playing in one of the best cities in the entire world doesn't matter one bit. Making waaaay more money off endorsements\having your popularity skyrocket doesn't mean anything. Wasn't Nate Robinson in top 10 for jersey sales when he played for NY? That's f*cking crazy.

Not everything is an extreme example, and good FO is far more important than anything else and market size isn't a reason why a team will fail or succeed. Doesn't mean they don't get a little push for time to time. Denver Nuggets haven't had a superstar saying I only want to play for you guy's trade me there. NY has. That alone shows NY has had one advantage due to market.


Melo ONLY wanted to go to the Knicks because they cleared so much space by tanking for TWO years, and had Amar'e Stoudemire.


He never made any mention of his desire to play in NY before any of that happened.

[NuggetsFan]

All the money from jersey sales is evenly distributed to all 30 teams.

How many times has Grant Hill talked to the Knicks about signing, and then signed elsewhere? I can't even keep count anymore.

Popularity. Having your jersey be in the top 10? Might not net you cash but sure as shit will get you more endorsement looks.

Once again. I'm not talking in extremes. Not every player will want to play for NY. That can't happen. There is advantages that SOMETIMES happen for the bigger markets in the league that others don't get.

I agree a good FO is probably 99% of it. There's that 1% that market def helps with tho. Atleast 0.1111% because I've witnessed it first hand with my favorite team, so it's atleast happened once so not sure what your arguing.

[NuggetsFan]

Melo ONLY wanted to go to the Knicks because they cleared so much space by tanking for TWO years, and had Amar'e Stoudemire.


He never made any mention of his desire to play in NY before any of that happened.

lol k. Melo wanted NY for their GREAT FO. I'm coming home, had nothing to do with it. His wife wanting to be in New York or L.A for her career had nothing to do with it.

If your not going to accept Melo had NY on his list of teams 100% because of there market than there's really no point in discussing it with you. It's a fact. Melo would probably admit that he wanted to play for New York, because it's New York.

[DKLaker]

which franchise is the 2nd worst since the Clippers will never be topped.

Clippers have redeemed themselves quite a bit and they have had good playoff teams......very rarely but what they have done lately takes them off this list.

Worst, I say Bobcats. If you took all the Bobcats top 10 draft picks in their prime and put them on 1 team you wouldn't win a game :facepalm :oldlol:

[Sarcastic]

lol k. Melo wanted NY for their GREAT FO. I'm coming home, had nothing to do with it. His wife wanting to be in New York or L.A for her career had nothing to do with it.

If your not going to accept Melo had NY on his list of teams 100% because of there market than there's really no point in discussing it with you. It's a fact. Melo would probably admit that he wanted to play for New York, because it's New York.

I'm pretty sure his wife had something to do with it too.

Does every player have a wife from NY? If so, then I can see why you think NY would have an advantage.

[Sarcastic]

Popularity. Having your jersey be in the top 10? Might not net you cash but sure as shit will get you more endorsement looks.

Once again. I'm not talking in extremes. Not every player will want to play for NY. That can't happen. There is advantages that SOMETIMES happen for the bigger markets in the league that others don't get.

I agree a good FO is probably 99% of it. There's that 1% that market def helps with tho. Atleast 0.1111% because I've witnessed it first hand with my favorite team, so it's atleast happened once so not sure what your arguing.


Being a superstar gets you endorsements, not being in a big market. David Robinson and Tim Duncan have had national endorsements from San Antonio.

How many endorsements does JR Smith have? How many did Starks have? Or Charles Oakley?

[NuggetsFan]

I'm pretty sure his wife had something to do with it too.

Does every player have a wife from NY? If so, then I can see why you think NY would have an advantage.

First off I don't think NY has this massive advantage that you can't match. They don't. That's why they've been awful for so long. Just saying they have some, let's call it appeal that others don't. How much that helps? I have no idea. I know it's helped atleast once. I know NY doesn't sell draft picks like PHX. I know NY is far more willing to spend in the last 10 years than alot of others teams.

Really good FO and ping pong balls decide more than anything.

[NuggetsFan]

Being a superstar gets you endorsements, not being in a big market. David Robinson and Tim Duncan have had national endorsements from San Antonio.

How many endorsements does JR Smith have? How many did Starks have? Or Charles Oakley?

Nate Robinson shouldn't have been in the top 10 for jersey sales. That's a direct reflection of playing in NY.

I've seen you argue you this, alot of the links you posted I read and it's actually where I got some of the you make more money in NY :oldlol:

So there. Superstars make more money in NY! That's an advantage. I have no clue how big of one, or it even matters like I've been saying. NY can pitch that. Minnesota can't. Check Webster my friend, that's the definition of an advantage :oldlol:

[Sarcastic]

Nate Robinson shouldn't have been in the top 10 for jersey sales. That's a direct reflection of playing in NY.

I've seen you argue you this, alot of the links you posted I read and it's actually where I got some of the you make more money in NY :oldlol:

So there. Superstars make more money in NY! That's an advantage. I have no clue how big of one, or it even matters like I've been saying. NY can pitch that. Minnesota can't. Check Webster my friend, that's the definition of an advantage :oldlol:

Whatever advantage there is, it's probably smaller than the advantage that states with no state tax have.


In the end, I think that market, or no state tax come far behind the chance to win, when a player is picking his future team.

[FireDavidKahn]

Historically the Wolves have been horrendous.

[NuggetsFan]

Whatever advantage there is, it's probably smaller than the advantage that states with no state tax have.


In the end, I think that market, or no state tax come far behind the chance to win, when a player is picking his future team.

Maybe. I won't argue that. Market clearly doesn't even decide if a team succeeds or fails. FO, coaching etc. all do. I'm not naive enough to believe that every team plays by the same rules. Owners checkbook decides alot and when your team makes alot more money and has crazy TV contracts your obviously be willing to spend more unless your Donald Sterling, which he even started to do now.

PHX sold a few really good players. Cheap owner. Doesn't happen if Cuban owns the team or Dolan. No superstar forced his way to Minnesota. Even a team like Toronto, NBA players don't seem to like playing in Canada. Might not happen alot, it's happened atleast once or twice tho. Dwight\Melo being the examples of that. Extremely small size, but still there.

[FireDavidKahn]

Location and money have nothing to do with winning.

Denver went 8 years without making the playoffs, and had never gotten past the second round before Carmelo Anthony showed up.



My vote goes to the Milwaukee Bucks though. Probably the most forgotten franchise in the NBA.
LOL. Ignorance is bliss isn't it? Location means great players flock to that place. The Lakers wouldn't be the Lakers if they had stayed in Minneapolis.

[kennethgriffin]

Haha true that. Dude looks like he got slapped in the face. By grizzly bear's claw :oldlol:

i guess the ladies dig my malled grizzy bear attacked face thats been destroyed beyond recognition. i'ts amazing they can even stand the sight of me



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:biggums: da fuq are these womenz doin with my ugly a%%

[kurple]

Location and money have nothing to do with winning.

wait whaaat?

doesnt EVERYONE wanna play in NY? That's what you have been saying since the summer of 2010

Winning should be easier then, especielly when you can use 100mill on salaries

[kurple]

For every Melo or Dwight, there is a Duncan or Durant.
oh my god. do you even believe what you are writing?

[kurple]

i guess the ladies dig my malled grizzy bear attacked face thats been destroyed beyond recognition. i'ts amazing they can even stand the sight of me



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:biggums: da fuq are these womenz doin with my ugly a%%
what the **** was that?

was that supposed to be impressive :roll:

[kurple]

but i'm not gonna bother argue with Sarcastic.. Nuggetsfan said most of it, and everyone with a brain realize location and money has a lot to do with winning

[kurple]

but holy shit.. i cant get past that moron posting those pic's :roll:

made my day.. or even year

[NugzFan]

Had they never gotten Melo, the Nuggets would be the Clips.

:oldlol: No chance

[kennethgriffin]

but holy shit.. i cant get past that moron posting those pic's :roll:

made my day.. or even year


lol

i know eh... what a bum.. who would ever post a pic of themselves on a message board.

don't people know 90% of us are fat trolls who havent seen the light of day in 10 years

thats the way it should always be

:lol

[FireDavidKahn]

i guess the ladies dig my malled grizzy bear attacked face thats been destroyed beyond recognition. i'ts amazing they can even stand the sight of me



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:biggums: da fuq are these womenz doin with my ugly a%%
This is literally one of the most pathetic posts ever on ISH.:facepalm

[kennethgriffin]

what the **** was that?

was that supposed to be impressive :roll:

well i don't get the hottest girls. but theyre atleast 7's

not saying i'm prince charming. but i took offense to being called a grizzly bear attack victom

:lol

[kennethgriffin]

This is literally one of the most pathetic posts ever on ISH.:facepalm


its just some pictures to prove i'm not a bear attack victom lol.... why do people always get so offended when someone posts a picture on a message board


we're not all basement dwelling night crawlers with something to hide

:oldlol:

[kennethgriffin]

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa280/cashforcards/frewrefre-1.png

"did this guy just post a picture of himself on the internet? what a loser! all i did was call him ugly! he's supposed to accept it because i'm actually ugly and everyone who posts on message boards does it because they have no one to talk to in real life. this is common sense!"


:yaohappy:

[FireDavidKahn]

its just some pictures to prove i'm not a bear attack victom lol.... why do people always get so offended when someone posts a picture on a message board


we're not all basement dwelling night crawlers with something to hide

:oldlol:
Obviously, but posting pictures of yourself on a message board to strangers to prove a point is just sad. The fact that you are so easily offended is amazing as well.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Why are people hating on griff's girl? :oldlol:

She wasn't bad looking at all. :confusedshrug:

[FireDavidKahn]

Why are people hating on griff's girl? :oldlol:

She wasn't bad looking at all. :confusedshrug:
Not hating on the girl at all, just the reason for why they were posted.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Not hating on the girl at all, just the reason for why they were posted.


I was actually talking about kurple, I should've been more specific. :cheers: And grif, did you really take offense to the s.hit? :oldlol:

[kennethgriffin]

I was actually talking about kurple, I should've been more specific. :cheers: And grif, did you really take offense to the s.hit? :oldlol:

well i'm about the truth. do you have any idea how much effort goes into banging women. its like if someone insults kobes shooting skills. i'm sure he would let the guy have it considering how much time he puts in perfecting his craft...


well my craft is manipulating virgins into premarital sex.

:confusedshrug:

you see the first girl in those pics... thats a muslim. if her family found out about us... theyed kill both of us. that one is like my nba finals mvp of women... i take pride in my work

[SilkkTheShocker]

well i'm about the truth. do you have any idea how much effort goes into banging women. its like if someone insults kobes shooting skills. i'm sure he would let the guy have it considering how much time he puts in perfecting his craft...


well my craft is manipulating virgins into premarital sex.

:confusedshrug:

you see the first girl in those pics... thats a muslim. if her family found out about us... theyed kill both of us. that one is like my nba finals mvp of women... i take pride in my work


:applause:

[krazymofo]

i guess the ladies dig my malled grizzy bear attacked face thats been destroyed beyond recognition. i'ts amazing they can even stand the sight of me



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:biggums: da fuq are these womenz doin with my ugly a%%

Dude i'm starting to think i'm getting trolled here since you've used these pictures before on other threads to make yourself look legitimate.:wtf:

[SpecialQue]

Hey I wonder what's going on in this thread.


i guess the ladies dig my malled grizzy bear attacked face thats been destroyed beyond recognition. i'ts amazing they can even stand the sight of me

pics

:biggums: da fuq are these womenz doin with my ugly a%%

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[kennethgriffin]

Hey I wonder what's going on in this thread.



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**** skyler.... she's the biggest hypocrite ive ever seen... shes such a stuck up high and mighty "i'm so much better than walt" type

then she stays in his house paid for with drug money... runs her business paid for th drug money... and keeps everything from the cops because shes afraid of what they will do to her...

bs ... she knows if she helps them get walt behind bars she'l end up getting off scott free because she flipped the biggest drug dealer in town.

shes just sittin back and collecting the million dollar pay cheques actin like she did nothing wrong.


dumb B****

[SpecialQue]

**** skyler.... she's the biggest hypocrite ive ever seen... shes such a stuck up high and mighty "i'm so much better than walt" type

then she stays in his house paid for with drug money... runs her business paid for th drug money... and keeps everything from the cops because shes afraid of what they will do to her...

bs ... she knows if she helps them get walt behind bars she'l end up getting off scott free because she flipped the biggest drug dealer in town.

shes just sittin back and collecting the million dollar pay cheques actin like she did nothing wrong.


dumb B****

What a typical superficial reading of this show. She just had a baby, and near the end of the previous season people were going to come to her house and kill her AND her children due to her husband being in the meth business. And now he's back in it pretending that it's going to be all fine now. She's justified in hating this guy.

But I'm guessing you're one of those people who watches the show because "Duh...Heisenberg rulezzz!!!!" so I can see how you'd completely miss that.

[chips93]

SHUT UP ABOUT BREAKING BAD

:rant

I AVOID THREADS ABOUT IT SO IT DOESNT GET SPOILED FOR ME

:rant

[kurple]

well i don't get the hottest girls. but theyre atleast 7's

not saying i'm prince charming. but i took offense to being called a grizzly bear attack victom

:lol
ok, i can see where you're coming from. and the girls were decent

but a post like that just seemd super wierd

[B-Low]

Ken man you really gotta stop posting private pics of your girl just to prove somethin to people on a f*ckin internet message board. You really care about the opinions of some posters you never have (and never will) meet, more than you care about respecting your girl? That's just sad on every possible level :oldlol:

Face it the people on here that don't like you are gonna disagree with and insult anything you say. Bringing your girl into it won't make them compliment you, it'll make them insult her for no reason at all. A guy's job is to protect his woman from that shit, not encourage it. Just sayin.

[kurple]

I was actually talking about kurple, I should've been more specific. :cheers: And grif, did you really take offense to the s.hit? :oldlol:
the girls are solid. and the man doesnt look to bad himself

but posting pics like that shows major lack of social intelligence

[Djahjaga]

I'm glad I decided to follow this thread instead of Obama's AMA. Half as controversial and every bit as entertaining :oldlol:

[niko]

I like people who keep pictures of their conquests as ammunition in an internet fight on if they are ugly or not. Because that's important. :lol

[PyrrhusX]

Wolves.

[stallionaire]

Knicks.

[RaininTwos]

Location and money have nothing to do with winning.

Denver went 8 years without making the playoffs, and had never gotten past the second round before Carmelo Anthony showed up.



My vote goes to the Milwaukee Bucks though. Probably the most forgotten franchise in the NBA.
Milwaukee?

That's stupid as hell.

[krazymofo]

Boston. Still thinking they're top dog even though most of their championships came during a weak ass era nobody can remember with un-athletic white guys compared to todays standards.

Ok bring on the negs. I said it.

[RaininTwos]

what the **** was that?

was that supposed to be impressive :roll:
dawg let's be real, 99% of ish would definitely be afraid to approach

most people here rely on liquid courage it seems.

[KyrieTheFuture]

Well at least griff is doing something right in his life. I might hate his posts but I dont hate dat ass he's with.

[Sarcastic]

Milwaukee?

That's stupid as hell.

Stupid? It's the least valuable franchise in the NBA, with little to no prospects of ever making money.

http://www.forbes.com/nba-valuations/#p_3_s_a0_

[SpecialQue]

Milwaukee?

That's stupid as hell.

To be honest, the Bucks are the team I ALWAYS forget when looking up teams. No one ever talks about them it seems.

[RaininTwos]

Stupid? It's the least valuable franchise in the NBA, with little to no prospects of ever making money.

http://www.forbes.com/nba-valuations/#p_3_s_a0_

That's how people judge franchises now?


To be honest, the Bucks are the team I ALWAYS forget when looking up teams. No one ever talks about them it seems.

They are low-key, but that doesn't make them horrible or anywhere near the worst. They have had good teams in almost every decade. People here need to chill.

[Freedom Kid7]

How are you not banned OP :biggums: ?

[SpecialQue]

That's how people judge franchises now?



They are low-key, but that doesn't make them horrible or anywhere near the worst. They have had good teams in almost every decade. People here need to chill.

They are far from a bad team. I actually expected them to grab the 8 seed last season. They're just REALLY low key, as you said.

[Sarcastic]

That's how people judge franchises now?



They are low-key, but that doesn't make them horrible or anywhere near the worst. They have had good teams in almost every decade. People here need to chill.

They had a 7 year run in the 1990s of missing the playoffs.

Knicks get called dogshit when they missed for 6 years, and 2 of those they were in complete tank mode just dumping salary.


And yes, team valuation is how you judge franchises. If you were to name the worst franchises in the NFL, the list would probably include the Bills and Jaguars, who are among the least valuable teams.

[RaininTwos]

They had a 7 year run in the 1990s of missing the playoffs.

Knicks get called dogshit when they missed for 6 years, and 2 of those they were in complete tank mode just dumping salary.


And yes, team valuation is how you judge franchises. If you were to name the worst franchises in the NFL, the list would probably include the Bills and Jaguars, who are among the least valuable teams.

That's stupid.

You are only doing this Team Value thing to prop the Knicks up. Stop it b.

Knicks got called dogshit because they sucked. How's that relevant?

[Sarcastic]

That's stupid.

You are only doing this Team Value thing to prop the Knicks up. Stop it b.

Knicks got called dogshit because they sucked. How's that relevant?


The Bulls sucked for 6 years after Jordan and didn't make the playoffs. Would you ever say they were a bad franchise?

Winning, or making the playoffs doesn't mean you are a good franchise. The Cubs haven't won a World Series in over 100 years. Would you call them one of the worst franchises? The Red Sox had a 86 year drought. Were they ever a bad franchise?

[RaininTwos]

The Bulls sucked for 6 years after Jordan and didn't make the playoffs. Would you ever say they were a bad franchise?

Winning, or making the playoffs doesn't mean you are a good franchise. The Cubs haven't won a World Series in over 100 years. Would you call them one of the worst franchises? The Red Sox had a 86 year drought. Were they ever a bad franchise?

What in the world are you talking about?

The reason why the Cubs and Red Sox weren't considered one of the worst franchises was because they had great players during those amazingly long droughts.

You keep adding more idiocy to your argument.

The Knicks are a middle to back of the pack franchise, let it go.

This thread is about the second worst franchise ever and Milwaukee is an absurd choice. Stop posting.

[Sarcastic]

What in the world are you talking about?

The reason why the Cubs and Red Sox weren't considered one of the worst franchises was because they had great players during those amazingly long droughts.

You keep adding more idiocy to your argument.

The Knicks are a middle to back of the pack franchise, let it go.

This thread is about the second worst franchise ever and Milwaukee is an absurd choice. Stop posting.


Knicks are middle to back of the pack? Well since winning means so much to you, there are 6 teams with more titles than the Knicks, and Milwaukee is not one of them.

I'd love to see who you think is the second worst franchise.

[AK47DR91]

I'm not sure how anybody can defend the post-JVG Knicks. They've been straight up garbage. Trash. Only team that's been worse than them during this last 11 years are the Bobcats and they're only an 8 years old franchise.

Clippers at least have their 2006 and 2012 highlights.

Knicks may not be the worst franchise in history but they're in discussion for the worst list of franchises since the ABA-NBA merger(1976).

[Sarcastic]

I'm not sure how anybody can defend the post-JVG Knicks. They've been straight up garbage. Trash. Only team that's been worse than them during this last 11 years are the Bobcats and they're only an 8 years old franchise.

Clippers at least have their 2006 and 2012 highlights.

Knicks may not be the worst franchise in history but they're in discussion for the worst list of franchises since the ABA-NBA merger(1976).


I present to you the history of the GS Warriors

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/GSW/



They missed the playoffs 29 times in the last 36 years, since the ABA merger. Going by your standards, they must be the worst franchise. Amirite?

[RaininTwos]

Knicks are middle to back of the pack? Well since winning means so much to you, there are 6 teams with more titles than the Knicks, and Milwaukee is not one of them.

I'd love to see who you think is the second worst franchise.
Do you realize that Milwaukee has a way better winning percentage than the Knicks?


I present to you the history of the GS Warriors

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/GSW/



They missed the playoffs 29 times in the last 36 years, since the ABA merger. Going by your standards, they must be the worst franchise. Amirite?

Nah man, Milwaukee is way worse than them.

[Sarcastic]

We're going by winning percentage now? :lol
Way to move the goal posts.

Ok so the worst teams are:

Bobcats - .358 winning %
Grizzlies - .365 winning %
Clippers - .367 winning %

The Suns, Jazz, Blazer, Bucks ARE ALL AHEAD of the Chicago Bulls.