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TAZORAC
08-31-2012, 05:06 AM
When you want to have a competitive organization year in and year out you have to make changes before things go all the way down hill. Many times these changes are risky.

Wade is coming off of knee surgery and with the injuries piling up he will be on the decline shortly. Trade him while his value is still high and bring in 1 or 2 great players to fill the void. Bosh is a soft PF who loves shooting baseline jump shots and 3 pointers, get rid of him (his value has already dropped based on last season) and bring in a couple of PF'S who loves to rebound, and play defense.

What will happen is Bosh will show that he's overrated as he was just a stat sheet filler on Toronto ala Kevin Love, and Wade will begin being injured and missing alot of games;when he's on the court he'll be slowed down by his bum knees.

If Chalmers can continue to play like he played in the playoffs last year, they trade Wade/Bosh for their value, the Heat can continue to be contenders, INSTEAD they will probably wait for Wade to show his injury's and try to trade him and not got a good deal.

Knicksfever2010
08-31-2012, 05:09 AM
ok

KOBE143
08-31-2012, 05:13 AM
Heat 2012 champions was just a fluke..

TerranOP
08-31-2012, 05:15 AM
Can you at least wait 3 months after they win the title before posting this kind of shit?

LEFT4DEAD
08-31-2012, 05:21 AM
Only question is who will be their opponent in the finals in the next 3 years at least.

QuebecBaller
08-31-2012, 05:37 AM
So.... Wade for Westbrook and Ibaka

and Bosh for Gordon and Davis


Is it enough for you?

East_Stone_Ya
08-31-2012, 05:46 AM
yes after 3-4 years this thread would make sense :applause:


as of now :facepalm

PyrrhusX
08-31-2012, 06:04 AM
So.... Wade for Westbrook and Ibaka

and Bosh for Gordon and Davis


Is it enough for you?

Settledown, the Heat arnt like the Lakers.

Doctor Rivers
08-31-2012, 06:07 AM
You should consider not creating any more threads

BlackWhiteGreen
08-31-2012, 06:21 AM
Did I miss when they stopped being championship contenders?

QuebecBaller
08-31-2012, 07:33 AM
Did I miss when they stopped being championship contenders?

You have to think of the future not the present. Don't care about next year championship, but in 3 or 4 year, that's the goal :lol

Optimus Prime
08-31-2012, 07:43 AM
So ... the defending champions are supposed to blow up their team so ... they can be championship contenders? :wtf: :facepalm

:kobe:

FPJ
08-31-2012, 07:50 AM
Be afraid Bobcats, the Heat's gonna go for the worst team of all time!

Rubio2Gasol
08-31-2012, 08:04 AM
Wade , not Bosh.

They should've threw a Wade for Howard offer at Orlando.

Laxlen
08-31-2012, 08:08 AM
you forget, Wade/Bosh/LeBron are the "superfriends"

Sakkreth
08-31-2012, 08:09 AM
Wade , not Bosh.

They should've threw a Wade for Howard offer at Orlando.

Everyone understands it, as everyone understands that it would be way too disrespectful for Wade who got them the chip in 2006.

Rubio2Gasol
08-31-2012, 08:15 AM
Everyone understands it, as everyone understands that it would be way too disrespectful for Wade who got them the chip in 2006.

Fair enough.

But by that Logic they should give Dan Crawford a statue outside the arena :roll:

nathanjizzle
08-31-2012, 08:33 AM
wade needs to go, he no longer cares about competing, he didnt last year and he wont more so this year.

FPJ
08-31-2012, 08:50 AM
wade needs to go, he no longer cares about competing, he didnt last year and he wont more so this year.

How you figure? :wtf:

Raz
08-31-2012, 09:28 AM
It would be interesting to see what kind of package they could get for Wade.
They could ask for Cousins and Fredette - that would be a decent haul.

Bosh could be traded to the Rockets for a plethora of young role players. Maybe, Terrence Jones, Motiejunas, and Kevin Martin.

CT: Cousins/ Anthony/ Motiejunas
PF: Haslem/ T. Jones/ Motiejunas
SF: James/ Battier/ J. Jones
SG: Martin/ Miller
PG: Chalmers/ Fredette/ Norris

Actually, that looks very average.

Flash31
08-31-2012, 10:33 AM
Are you mentally handicapped or are you that dam stupid?.

go to nba finals lose in 6,win nba title,still championship favs

Break up the team.WHATTTFFF??

trade wade, yeah it's not like he avg 30,5,5 for pacer series and had
multiple 30,40 pt games in playoffs oh wait he did

trade bosh,yeah it's not like he was the reason kg couldn't do anything last 3 games and was the reason heat made the finals and won, oh wait he was

You're either a hater or beyond stupid or a supreme lebron James d***rider
or all of the above

lilgodfather1
08-31-2012, 10:45 AM
Wade sure, but not Bosh yet. He is still very much in the prime of his career, where as Wade is in an obvious decline.

Edit: Although I have said that I don't think you trade Wade unless you can get a serious haul. You don't trade him just to trade him. You do it only if it makes the team better. A SG/C would be a nice get for them because as we know the C position for the Heat is umm not good...

Raz
08-31-2012, 10:47 AM
Wade sure, but not Bosh yet. He is still very much in the prime of his career, where as Wade is in an obvious decline.

They could get 3 quality players for Wade. I'd deal with Sacramento, Houston, or Denver.

pegasus
08-31-2012, 10:50 AM
Bosh isn't going anywhere. Miami would have lost to the Celtics had he not come back in game 6. He is one of the best second options in the league (when Lebron and Wade allow him to play like one), and a great complement to Lebron.

I stopped liking Wade years ago, so I can't care less even if he retired, but he still has value. How he bounces back from injuries (or not) will tell us whether he has aged fast or he's just been hurt.

If he continues to decline, Miami's payroll will be a mess, and I can see quality veterans choosing teams like Lakers and the OKC over Miami to ring chase next summer.

They were extremely lucky with all the injuries in the Eastern Conference last year, and although Lebron had some great games, it was the entire team clicking at the right moment (with undeniable help from the refs) that put them over the inexperienced OKC. That championship may prove to be a fluke in a few years. We shall see.

ihoopallday
08-31-2012, 12:56 PM
The sad part is OP is probably being serious. Some people shouldn't have access to computers.

TAZORAC
08-31-2012, 02:25 PM
Are you mentally handicapped or are you that dam stupid?.

go to nba finals lose in 6,win nba title,still championship favs

Break up the team.WHATTTFFF??

trade wade, yeah it's not like he avg 30,5,5 for pacer series and had
multiple 30,40 pt games in playoffs oh wait he did

trade bosh,yeah it's not like he was the reason kg couldn't do anything last 3 games and was the reason heat made the finals and won, oh wait he was

You're either a hater or beyond stupid or a supreme lebron James d***rider
or all of the above

Being that most of you don't know anything about basketball AND don't have the intelligence to run an organization it wouldn't make since to you.

Wade had arthroscopic surgery, he's bound to decline anyday now. Wade's style of play is an aggressive drive to the basket at will style, when his knees become sore daily, that will change his game for the worse. His jump shoot isn't good enough where he can still be that great when he can no longer drive to the basket.

Being that 90% of you know nothing about basketball, there are players in the league who are young and cheap who you could get to replace Wade. You don't bring in 1 player to replace Wade, you get 2-3 good ones.

Same goes for Bosh, you get 2 guys who love rebounding and playing defense to replace him, not 1.

Miami WILL NOT win the championship next season, they won't even come out of the East. If Garnett hasn't declined any from last season Boston will come out of the east.

TAZORAC
08-31-2012, 02:30 PM
The point I was making was, most teams are strong for a few years then drop off, organizations like the Spurs and Mavs are contenders every year because they make changes.

It's not like the Heat are that dominate of a team not to consider getting rid of Wade and Bosh.

If I was in the Heat's front office i'd prefer having Stoudermire then Bosh.

KyrieTheFuture
08-31-2012, 02:33 PM
The point I was making was, most teams are strong for a few years then drop off, organizations like the Spurs and Mavs are contenders every year because they make changes.

It's not like the Heat are that dominate of a team not to consider getting rid of Wade and Bosh.

If I was in the Heat's front office i'd prefer having Stoudermire then Bosh.
:roll:

TheMarkMadsen
08-31-2012, 03:09 PM
Being that most of you don't know anything about basketball AND don't have the intelligence to run an organization it wouldn't make since to you.

Wade had arthroscopic surgery, he's bound to decline anyday now. Wade's style of play is an aggressive drive to the basket at will style, when his knees become sore daily, that will change his game for the worse. His jump shoot isn't good enough where he can still be that great when he can no longer drive to the basket.

Being that 90% of you know nothing about basketball, there are players in the league who are young and cheap who you could get to replace Wade. You don't bring in 1 player to replace Wade, you get 2-3 good ones.

Same goes for Bosh, you get 2 guys who love rebounding and playing defense to replace him, not 1.

Miami WILL NOT win the championship next season, they won't even come out of the East. If Garnett hasn't declined any from last season Boston will come out of the east.

Then why are you wasting your time talking to us if you don't feel that we're as intelligent basketball wise as you?

You should give all the GM's in the leauge a call, since they have more basketball knowledge than we do & tell them about your plans to trade Wade & Bosh that will finally make the HEAT championship contenders..

TheMarkMadsen
08-31-2012, 03:13 PM
Being that most of you don't know anything about basketball AND don't have the intelligence to run an organization it wouldn't make since to you.

Wade had arthroscopic surgery, he's bound to decline anyday now. Wade's style of play is an aggressive drive to the basket at will style, when his knees become sore daily, that will change his game for the worse. His jump shoot isn't good enough where he can still be that great when he can no longer drive to the basket.

Being that 90% of you know nothing about basketball, there are players in the league who are young and cheap who you could get to replace Wade. You don't bring in 1 player to replace Wade, you get 2-3 good ones.Same goes for Bosh, you get 2 guys who love rebounding and playing defense to replace him, not 1.

Miami WILL NOT win the championship next season, they won't even come out of the East. If Garnett hasn't declined any from last season Boston will come out of the east.


This isn't the NFL, you don't trade one Legit Superstar player for a couple of good ones and expect to get better.

Your idea is to get rid of 2 superstars, 2 players who can lead teams into the playoffs by themselves for a multiple good role players in return?

And you think that will make the HEAT better?

We've already seen what Lebron can do with a bunch of good/solid role players that fit a system perfectly..

Which is why he wento to MIAMI in the first place.

Ignorance is bliss

alleykat
08-31-2012, 03:18 PM
The point I was making was, most teams are strong for a few years then drop off, organizations like the Spurs and Mavs are contenders every year because they make changes.

It's not like the Heat are that dominate of a team not to consider getting rid of Wade and Bosh.

If I was in the Heat's front office i'd prefer having Stoudermire then Bosh.

except the mavs weren't championship contenders this year.....they did exactly wut u said and it ended up backfiring...wut happened to mark cubans lame off season without d-williams?

and the Spurs? I'm sorry but they had the same starting line up the year before...

u make this topic irrelevant when u say trash like "90% of you don't know basketball or how to run a team"...

RaininTwos
08-31-2012, 03:33 PM
The sad part is OP is probably being serious. Some people shouldn't have access to computers.
Yup.

HiphopRelated
08-31-2012, 04:44 PM
so...Miami should be the Mavericks? why?

monkeypox
08-31-2012, 05:26 PM
So ... the defending champions are supposed to blow up their team so ... they can be championship contenders? :wtf: :facepalm

:kobe:

Marc Cuban: Yes...

longtime lurker
08-31-2012, 07:46 PM
Yeah that makes a lot of sense blow up a championship formula that you know works so you can maybe win in the future..... the Heat need to ride the big 3 until the wheels fall off and if Lebron is as good as everyone says he is he should continue to win championships with another supporting cast.

swi7ch
08-31-2012, 07:53 PM
Nah, LBJ should go to LAL when his contract is up and form a new superteam with D12.

Wade is washed-up/done and Bosh is not a good 2nd guy if you want to win a title.

TAZORAC
09-04-2012, 07:59 PM
This isn't the NFL, you don't trade one Legit Superstar player for a couple of good ones and expect to get better.

Your idea is to get rid of 2 superstars, 2 players who can lead teams into the playoffs by themselves for a multiple good role players in return?

And you think that will make the HEAT better?

We've already seen what Lebron can do with a bunch of good/solid role players that fit a system perfectly..

Which is why he wento to MIAMI in the first place.

Ignorance is bliss

Bosh isn't that good of a player, he's a big men who jumps wayyyy too many jump shots. Bosh isn't even a top 5 PF. The HEAT should have went after Bynum and or Igodudala.

Peteballa
09-04-2012, 08:03 PM
Bosh is underrated

G-train
09-04-2012, 08:05 PM
Bosh isn't that good of a player, he's a big men who jumps wayyyy too many jump shots. Bosh isn't even a top 5 PF. The HEAT should have went after Bynum and or Igodudala.

Bosh is a star power forward that is showing unbelievable selflessness.

el gringos
09-04-2012, 08:27 PM
But you don't even give an example of a trade you could make and what you'd get. I don't think you should trade them- I don't know who would have players that would be worth trading those guys and who at the same time would have enough of the rest of the roster that they'd want to trade half thief team for those guys.


Only big trade that needs to happen:
Rockets get Amare, ny 1st, det 2nd
Pistons get k Martin, m Morris
Knicks get Motiejunas, Villenueva, a daye

TheBigVeto
09-04-2012, 08:31 PM
Heat 2012 champions was just a fluke..

Wasn't a fluke. They were lucky not to face Dirk Almighty.

Mr. Incredible
09-04-2012, 10:03 PM
Heat 2012 champions was just a fluke..
Your persona is a fluke.

clayton
09-04-2012, 10:06 PM
Sounds like someone wants OKC to win by destroying Heat roster. :roll:

Micku
09-04-2012, 10:13 PM
Bosh is fine. He is their most important player aside from LeBron.

Wade gets injured too often. When he's healthy, then he is amazing. But he did solid this year considering he was injured.

TheMarkMadsen
09-04-2012, 11:37 PM
Bosh isn't that good of a player, he's a big men who jumps wayyyy too many jump shots. Bosh isn't even a top 5 PF. The HEAT should have went after Bynum and or Igodudala.


Bosh isn't a top 5 pf? Please

He "takes way to many jumpshots" primarily due to Lbj & Wades style of play. Bosh is the key to this HEAT team, their not winning any championships without him IMO.

I'd take Bosh over Iggy all day, Bosh can give you 24 & 12 on any given night, and has proven that he can carry a team to the playoffs with little to no help around him.

MiseryCityTexas
09-05-2012, 02:15 AM
Heat 2012 champions was just a fluke..

lol you one of them guys who blames the shortened lockout season for them winning the championship?:oldlol:

TAZORAC
09-07-2012, 09:28 AM
Bosh isn't a top 5 pf? Please

He "takes way to many jumpshots" primarily due to Lbj & Wades style of play. Bosh is the key to this HEAT team, their not winning any championships without him IMO.

I'd take Bosh over Iggy all day, Bosh can give you 24 & 12 on any given night, and has proven that he can carry a team to the playoffs with little to no help around him.

Bosh can hardly carry a team to the playoffs by himself. The Raptors team that year had a good team, not great players but a good team. The Heat are less dominate then many of you think, and you'll see this year. The Heat (besides Haslem) need an inside presence who can rebound and block shots.

Chris Bosh ALSO has bum knees that nobody else noticed. Get rid of him bring in 2 rebounders and defensive players.

TheCorporation
09-07-2012, 12:36 PM
So blow-up a Championship team that can very likely win again in the next 2 years, so that you can win in 4 years instead...

:biggums:

TheMarkMadsen
09-07-2012, 01:07 PM
Bosh can hardly carry a team to the playoffs by himself. The Raptors team that year had a good team, not great players but a good team. The Heat are less dominate then many of you think, and you'll see this year. The Heat (besides Haslem) need an inside presence who can rebound and block shots.

Chris Bosh ALSO has bum knees that nobody else noticed. Get rid of him bring in 2 rebounders and defensive players.


You're joking right? First off the Raptors made the playoffs twice with Bosh as "the man"

secondly, both those years the Toronto Raptors were not what many would consider a "good" team, minus the 07 team, who's second best player was T.j. Ford.

Both of those years Bosh led a team to the playoffs with either T.j. ford or a 2nd year Bargnani as his second best player.


You're logic is so flawed. "The reigning NBA champions should trade away 2 of their 3 best players for a bunch of role players so that they can be contenders" GOAT LOGIC :bowdown:

You want to replace two superstars with a bunch of role players?

You think a team of Lebron & role players is going to give you a shot at winning at title :facepalm

Bandito
09-07-2012, 03:23 PM
lol you one of them guys who blames the shortened lockout season for them winning the championship?:oldlol:
he was being sarcastic genius.