Does an offensive rebound extend a possession, or give you an extra possession?

[fpliii]

As the title says, in your opinion, does an offensive rebound:

(a) extend the current possession
(b) start a new possession

?

On the surface it may seem to be largely a matter of semantics, but so far I've gotten different answers and/or explanations from everybody I've asked.

[gtfomyface]

depends what is done i guess, a putback would be an extension, when they pass it back out then it would be a fresh one i guess

[Stuckey]

extra imo, new shot clock after all

[DatAsh]

I'd say it's actually better than either, but it's closer to an extra possession.

Offensive rebounds, like steals, very often lead to an extra 2 points.

[KG215]

I personally have always thought of it as an extended possession. To call it an extra possession, in my opinion, is saying the defense is supposed to rebound every miss by the offense. Of course in the NBA and college where there is a shot clock, it can essentially give you an extra possession if you back the ball out and reset the offense.

[knickscity]

can't be a new possession.

The possession didn't change, since it stayed on the offensive end.

If the ball hits the rim, you get a new 24 secs.

[KG215]

I'd say it's actually better than either, but it's closer to an extra possession.

Offensive rebounds, like steals, very often lead to an extra 2 points.

But couldn't you argue those "extra" two points after an offensive rebound are offset by not scoring on the previous shot attempt?

Then again, since offensive rebounds are more rare, getting one and scoring off of it, I can understand where it can be seen as an "extra" two points.

[ncrizzle]

once the ball goes up, its fair game. Anyone can grab it. New possession . Extending a possession and starting a new possession are the same thing. Just wording it differently

[pauk]

Both, it extends the possession with a new possession (offensive rebound, new shotclock, unless its of a airball)

[jlip]

extra imo, new shot clock after all

This

[Rican_Havok]

It depends how you define "possession." Is a possession the 24 seconds or less you have to score a basket? Or is a possession merely your team having the ball on offense? If it's the first definition, then an offensive rebound would result in an extra possession. If it's the second definition, then an offensive rebound extends a possession.

[iamgine]

New possession, therefore extra possession. It doesn't extend the possession because by shooting the ball meant the previous possession is over.

[greymatter]

Ultimately "possessions" are a pointless stat to bother with in basketball unless you are analyzing how fast each team's pace is. Extra possessions as a result of offensive boards and +/- turnover differential will show up in the box score as extra shot attempts.

A better question would be what is an offensive rebound's relative worth in comparison to a steal, extra shot attempt, blocked shot, assist, etc. Since an offensive board usually results in a much higher than normal % extra shot attempt, I'd rank it just a shade under a steal in value.

[lilgodfather1]

It depends on the rebound. An offensive rebound can be a putback, a pass out or a tip. If it is a putback I would say it is an extension, if it is a pass out I would say it is a new possession, and if it is a tip it depends on who gains control or the tip. Big Z used to be great at the volleyball tip where he used to tip the ball 2-3 times before either making an easy layup, or the other team got the ball. That counts as 2-3 boards if they all hit the backboard, but was it really 2-3 extra/new possessions? I'd say no personally.

[magictricked]

For stats purposes it is a new possession. When calculating possessions per game offensive rebounds is a contributing stat

[ZenMaster]

For stats purposes it is a new possession. When calculating possessions per game offensive rebounds is a contributing stat


What? I'm pretty sure that's not right.

[Inactive]

In order to get a rebound don't you have to lose possession of the ball? I think all rebounds are considered new possessions.

[chazzy]

Statisically, it's an extended possession. Both teams in a game have an equal amount of possessions.

[che guevara]

What? I'm pretty sure that's not right.
He isn't right, any stat you see measuring something per possession (such as ORTG/DRTG, pace, etc.) considers an offensive rebound an extension of the possession.

[magictricked]

He isn't right, any stat you see measuring something per possession (such as ORTG/DRTG, pace, etc.) considers an offensive rebound an extension of the possession.

Possessions (available since the 1973-74 season in the NBA); the formula for teams is

0.5 * ((Tm FGA + 0.4 * Tm FTA - 1.07 * (Tm ORB / (Tm ORB + Opp DRB)) * (Tm FGA - Tm FG) + Tm TOV) + (Opp FGA + 0.4 * Opp FTA - 1.07 * (Opp ORB / (Opp ORB + Tm DRB)) * (Opp FGA - Opp FG) + Opp TOV)).


http://www.basketball-reference.com/about/glossary.html#pace

[Math2]

depends what is done i guess, a putback would be an extension, when they pass it back out then it would be a fresh one i guess

yup

[feyki]

Defensive rebounds gives you a new possesion too . If you didn't get the rebounds , you lost the ball .

I do measure the offensive boards as around 1.7 points in the game . And defensive's are 0.7 . Teams can recover possesions with rebounds after misses .

[ArbitraryWater]

extra, since the defense is in the much more favorable possession usually to get the rebound.

But you might as well call it an extended possession if its like 3-4 straight and you finally score.. just to show how cruel the stretch was for the defending team. Not much importance lies on the distinction of the words, then.. but in terms of giving the offensive rebounder credit, he gives em an extra possession.

[sundizz]

What is this nonsense. It clearly is an extra possession. End this nonsense thread.