Who Here Is Sick And Tired of Seeing The Lakers Get Superstars And Keep On Winning

[FlashDwyaneWade3]

I know I am. I'm sick and tired of seeing them getting superstars. They win too much NBA Championships. They hardly rebuild their team like the rest of the teams. If they have to rebuild, it's short term. Like 2 or 3 years. Maybe a little more. Then they become a championship team again. After winning the championships in the 80's and won their last Western Conference championship in '91. They rebuild 6 years later and acquired Shaq and Kobe. Won another NBA title 9 years later. Then after Shaq got trade after winning the West Championship but losing the Finals in '04, quickly rebuild 3 years later.

Now they haven't really been the same after winning the title years ago, then they get Steve freaking Nash and Dwight freaking Howard. I hope the Lakers reign is done after Kobe retires and Dwight is stuck in rebuild mold with the Lakers for eternity. It's kinda like the 90's Bulls. I hated Jordan and the Bulls cause of our rivalry. You'd think the Bulls are done after Jordan retires and then he comes back and they still failed in '95.

[Thorn]

I agree completely. The Lakers should intentionally run their franchise into the ground instead of trying to win like normal teams. Great post.

[Freedom Kid7]

Hated the Lakers since the Shaq-Kobe days.
I know that feel bro.

[WeGetRing2012]

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[swag2011]

lol of course everyone hates the Lakers, the premiere team of the NBA. The Front Office is just smart.

Since Lakers are my favorite team, i enjoy watching lakers winning all the time. It's fun. Us fans are already looking at Free Agents to pair up with Dwight in 2 or 3 years once Kobe/Nash leaves.

[noosaman]

I know Dirk Nowitzki got sick of it and made sure to sweep their asses out of the postseason.

[FlashDwyaneWade3]

I know Dirk Nowitzki got sick of it and made sure to sweep their asses out of the postseason.
Now the Lakers reloaded and are seeking to beat their asses. I feel sorry for your Mavs and the rest of the West. But the Heat will stop the Lakers in the Finals.

[The Real JW]

Luckily it's not Kobe and Nash in their primes. Imagine the backlash if the Lakers assembled a team of prime LeBron, prime Bosh and end-of-prime Wade. ISH would go nuts. :lol

[FlashDwyaneWade3]

Luckily it's not Kobe and Nash in their primes. Imagine the backlash if the Lakers assembled a team of prime LeBron, prime Bosh and end-of-prime Wade. ISH would go nuts. :lol
Kobe and Nash are still great after their primes right now. People are still going nuts about that.

[DatAsh]

Luckily it's not Kobe and Nash in their primes. Imagine the backlash if the Lakers assembled a team of prime LeBron, prime Bosh and end-of-prime Wade. ISH would go nuts. :lol


I'd easily take Kobe, Dwight, Gasol, Nash, and World Peace over what the heat have now.

[KeyNote]

Just imagine

in 2 years, the best front office in sports will have a ton of cap space and a superstar (Dwight Howard) to build around

I don't think the lakers have had free cap space since the 90s

:eek: :eek:

[Kblaze8855]

They traded the #2 center for the #1. As fair a trade as can be expected. not mad at that.

[swag2011]

Kobe and Nash are still great after their primes right now. People are still going nuts about that.

Really? cuz all i hear is that "KOBE SHOT 43% FROM FIELD HE SUCKS NOW, HE'S AN OVERRATED CHUCKER" OR "NASH HAS A BAD BACK, CAN'T PLAY PAST 30 MINUTES, CAN'T GUARD ANYONE, WESTBROOK WILL EAT HIM UP" etc. that's all i've been hearing.

[The Real JW]

I'd easily take Kobe, Dwight, Gasol, Nash, and World Peace over what the heat have now.

I wouldn't. Nash, Kobe, Metta and probably Gasol are on the tail end of their careers. They'll still have a few good seasons in them, but a young LeBron, Wade and Bosh is a better core to me. Especially long term. And then a bench of Ray Allen, Rashard Lewis and Shane Battier.

[FlashDwyaneWade3]

Really? cuz all i hear is that "KOBE SHOT 43% FROM FIELD HE SUCKS NOW, HE'S AN OVERRATED CHUCKER" OR "NASH HAS A BAD BACK, CAN'T PLAY PAST 30 MINUTES, CAN'T GUARD ANYONE, WESTBROOK WILL EAT HIM UP" etc. that's all i've been hearing.
People really worry about Kobe's shooting percentage here and think he's done? This is Kobe freaking Bryant. A shortened season with a new head coach who doesn't really know how to coach and didn't prepare the team like he wanted to and new offensive system (If you really wanna call it an offensive system). This year it'll be back to 45% shooting or higher. Now that they have a full season of practices, go over their game plan etc. Kobe couldn't shoot any worse.

[Kobe 4 The Win]

Ha ha ha ha ha.

F**k all of you

[therammingman]

Me










































NOT!!!

[lilgodfather1]

When they have cap space in 2014 they will (prolly) have Dwight, and Kobe will be on his final 3-5 million dollar contract, Gasol may be signed as depth, and LeBron, Bosh, and Wade will be FA's. If they still don't care about the money like in 2010 then I could see them all jumping ship to LAL to team up with Dwight.

Imagine this team...

PG: Wade 34
SG: Kobe 36
SF: LeBron 30
PF: Bosh 31
C: Dwight 29

Kobe/Wade might be marginal role players at that point, and make about 10 million combined, but LeBron, Howard, and Bosh will still be in their primes, and LeBron/Howard have at least 2 years of their primes left at that point, which honestly should be enough to get them three titles or more. Kobe could retire as an 8 time NBA champ, Wade as a 7 time champ, and LeBron/Bosh going for their 8th, with Howard going for his 4th.

DYNASTY!

[Doctor Rivers]

When they have cap space in 2014 they will (prolly) have Dwight, and Kobe will be on his final 3-5 million dollar contract, Gasol may be signed as depth, and LeBron, Bosh, and Wade will be FA's. If they still don't care about the money like in 2010 then I could see them all jumping ship to LAL to team up with Dwight.

Imagine this team...

PG: Wade 34
SG: Kobe 36
SF: LeBron 30
PF: Bosh 31
C: Dwight 29

Kobe/Wade might be marginal role players at that point, and make about 10 million combined, but LeBron, Howard, and Bosh will still be in their primes, and LeBron/Howard have at least 2 years of their primes left at that point, which honestly should be enough to get them three titles or more. Kobe could retire as an 8 time NBA champ, Wade as a 7 time champ, and LeBron/Bosh going for their 8th, with Howard going for his 4th.

DYNASTY!

lol absurd

[Rubio2Gasol]

If there wasn't a team like the Heat I would kinda mind, but with teams like the Heat being formed they kinda have to do it just to compete. Will make for some great basketball next year.

Plus to me they gave up Bynum for Howard which is fair game considering the risk involved and something they will regret when they try to rebuild around Howard.

I don't mind the Lakers though , it will be nice to see Rondo and KG take them down once again.

:roll:

[TheBigVeto]

People should just accept the fact that unless David Stern dies, he will always give preferential treatment for the Lakers. All the championships the Lakers got during the Stern era are asterisked.

[swag2011]

People really worry about Kobe's shooting percentage here and think he's done? This is Kobe freaking Bryant. A shortened season with a new head coach who doesn't really know how to coach and didn't prepare the team like he wanted to and new offensive system (If you really wanna call it an offensive system). This year it'll be back to 45% shooting or higher. Now that they have a full season of practices, go over their game plan etc. Kobe couldn't shoot any worse.

lol funny. i remember laker/kobe fans saying that SAME exact thing yet it was all ignored by haters this year. everytime someone brought up his 43% shooting, no one except laker fans brought up the fact that they completely switched offenses with no training camp, yet all we read was that he's an overrated chucker, always has been, always will be blah blah blah stuff. hilarious. Nevermind the fact that several games he was the ONLY one to show up. First one comes to mind was his sick game in denver game 6, where were his big men when kobe went off for 31 on over 50% shooting?

[lilgodfather1]

lol absurd
Can you imagine? That would blow my frigging mind lol.

I can imagine that Kobe would still be a good shooter/floor spacer, and Wade could easily play the defensive PG with Howard clogging the middle, and LeBron/Bosh/Howard will still be in their primes.

As for the actual salary numbers i'm not positive on what they would be. If Dwight takes the full max in 2014 I would imagine he would be at approximately 21 million giving the Lakers approximately 30 million dollars in cap space to use. Kobe signs a contract for 3 million, Wade signs for 3 million that gies them approximately 24 million to use on LeBron, and Bosh. If each of them takes 10 million dollars that gives them enough wiggle room to do exatly this.

I actually kind of hope this happens lol I want to see if it would be as epic as I think it is.

[ILLsmak]

They traded the #2 center for the #1. As fair a trade as can be expected. not mad at that.

Oo I dunno about that. 1 and 2 is a big difference. It's like trading Melo for Bron. Jussayin.

-Smak

[macpierce]

Oo I dunno about that. 1 and 2 is a big difference. It's like trading Melo for Bron. Jussayin.

-Smak

trades usually arent always equal per say but its close enough

[wakencdukest]

They hardly rebuild their team like the rest of the teams.


How do you rebuild like the rest of the teams when you're never bad enough to get into the lottery? Answer that. Fact is: Lakers FO > everybody else's.

[tmacattack33]

Luckily it's not Kobe and Nash in their primes. Imagine the backlash if the Lakers assembled a team of prime LeBron, prime Bosh and end-of-prime Wade. ISH would go nuts. :lol

I think you forgot about Dwight Howard.

And Gasol, who actually is still playing prime ball...but for whatever reason he didn't bring it like usual in the playoffs the past two yrs. With the revamped team, it's pretty likely that he'll have more motivation in the playoffs this year.

[eliteballer]

What did the lakers give up for Dwight and 39 year old Nash and what did the Heat give up for LeBron and Bosh?

[tmacattack33]

What did the lakers give up for Dwight and 39 year old Nash and what did the Heat give up for LeBron and Bosh?

1. Bynum and not much else.

2. Not much, they were free agents.


Your point?

[SpecialQue]

People should just accept the fact that unless David Stern dies, he will always give preferential treatment for the Lakers. All the championships the Lakers got during the Stern era are asterisked.


You mean like the preferential treatment he gave the Lakers when he gave that CP3 trade "The Big Veto"?????

[FlashDwyaneWade3]

People should just accept the fact that unless David Stern dies, he will always give preferential treatment for the Lakers. All the championships the Lakers got during the Stern era are asterisked.
What the hell does David Stern have to do any of this?

[TheMarkMadsen]

You mean like the preferential treatment he gave the Lakers when he gave that CP3 trade "The Big Veto"?????
:lebronamazed:

[magictricked]

You mean like the preferential treatment he gave the Lakers when he gave that CP3 trade "The Big Veto"?????:lol :lol

[funnystuff]

Relax OP, they aren't going anywhere with Mike Brown no matter the roster. :lol

[Heavincent]

Relax OP, they aren't going anywhere with Mike Brown no matter the roster. :lol

Eric Spoelstra begs to differ.

That bonehead proved that you don't need a good coach to win it all.

[funnystuff]

Eric Spoelstra begs to differ.

That bonehead proved that you don't need a good coach to win it all.
Spo is underrated.

Oh and Spo > Brown by a MILE.

[BlackVVaves]

People should just accept the fact that unless David Stern dies, he will always give preferential treatment for the Lakers. All the championships the Lakers got during the Stern era are asterisked.



You mean like the preferential treatment he gave the Lakers when he gave that CP3 trade "The Big Veto"?????

Hey TheBigVeto. How do you always manage to be wrong and get clowned for it?

Pretty unique skill if you ask me.

[DFish]

TheBigVeto? He actually named his account after the CP3 trade veto?

:lol What a loser... and then he has the nerve to imply that Stern helped the Lakers get Dwight less than a year later. Clearly just an irrational Laker-hater.

[SwayDizzle]

TheBigVeto? He actually named his account after the CP3 trade veto?

:lol What a loser... and then he has the nerve to imply that Stern helped the Lakers get Dwight less than a year later. Clearly just an irrational Laker-hater.
:lol :lol :lol

[ncrizzle]

The lakers are not unstoppable . Younger teams with good frontcourts can hang with them and beat them. Dwight has a serious back problem. Nash is almost 40. Kobe is on the decline. Pau is on the decline. While they have all star veterans, they still are over the hill and have weaknesses. The lakers better play it cool during the regular season so they can say whatever gas they have left for the playoffs. I think this team, having such high expectations, will not be able to live up to the hype

[funnystuff]

The lakers are not unstoppable . Younger teams with good frontcourts can hang with them and beat them. Dwight has a serious back problem. Nash is almost 40. Kobe is on the decline. Pau is on the decline. While they have all star veterans, they still are over the hill and have weaknesses. The lakers better play it cool during the regular season so they can say whatever gas they have left for the playoffs. I think this team, having such high expectations, will not be able to live up to the hype
This. I'd put serious money on a WCF or 2nd round exit for them.

[shaq2000]

Big markets will always attract the big names.

[ILLsmak]

This. I'd put serious money on a WCF or 2nd round exit for them.

Let's do this. lol.

I'll take that bet.

-Smak

[alleykat]

I know I am. I'm sick and tired of seeing them getting superstars. They win too much NBA Championships. They hardly rebuild their team like the rest of the teams. If they have to rebuild, it's short term. Like 2 or 3 years. Maybe a little more. Then they become a championship team again. After winning the championships in the 80's and won their last Western Conference championship in '91. They rebuild 6 years later and acquired Shaq and Kobe. Won another NBA title 9 years later. Then after Shaq got trade after winning the West Championship but losing the Finals in '04, quickly rebuild 3 years later.

Now they haven't really been the same after winning the title years ago, then they get Steve freaking Nash and Dwight freaking Howard. I hope the Lakers reign is done after Kobe retires and Dwight is stuck in rebuild mold with the Lakers for eternity. It's kinda like the 90's Bulls. I hated Jordan and the Bulls cause of our rivalry. You'd think the Bulls are done after Jordan retires and then he comes back and they still failed in '95.

so u hated great championship teams and dynasties?

wait aren't u a heat fan? they had a 90's bull's rivalry? i'm sorry but i don't think the heat were on the bull's radar....

weren't u guys swept by the bulls almost all playoff meetings? maybe u guys won one game idk

[LakersReign]

People should just accept the fact that unless David Stern dies, he will always give preferential treatment for the Lakers. All the championships the Lakers got during the Stern era are asterisked.

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[East_Stone_Ya]

the lakers hate thread..something new

[SourPatchKids]

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[Doctor Rivers]

This. I'd put serious money on a WCF or 2nd round exit for them.

do it

[DKLaker]

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WOW....."They Live" where the hell did you find this :oldlol: :bowdown:

[All Net]

The lakers are not unstoppable . Younger teams with good frontcourts can hang with them and beat them. Dwight has a serious back problem. Nash is almost 40. Kobe is on the decline. Pau is on the decline. While they have all star veterans, they still are over the hill and have weaknesses. The lakers better play it cool during the regular season so they can say whatever gas they have left for the playoffs. I think this team, having such high expectations, will not be able to live up to the hype

It's so easy to look at it on the negative side hey... Doesn't change the fact this team will be a big time contender and a BIG issue for whoever faces them in a series.

Trying to think of these teams with young good frontcourts...

[DKLaker]

I know I am. I'm sick and tired of seeing them getting superstars. They win too much NBA Championships. They hardly rebuild their team like the rest of the teams. If they have to rebuild, it's short term. Like 2 or 3 years. Maybe a little more. Then they become a championship team again. After winning the championships in the 80's and won their last Western Conference championship in '91. They rebuild 6 years later and acquired Shaq and Kobe. Won another NBA title 9 years later. Then after Shaq got trade after winning the West Championship but losing the Finals in '04, quickly rebuild 3 years later.

Now they haven't really been the same after winning the title years ago, then they get Steve freaking Nash and Dwight freaking Howard. I hope the Lakers reign is done after Kobe retires and Dwight is stuck in rebuild mold with the Lakers for eternity. It's kinda like the 90's Bulls. I hated Jordan and the Bulls cause of our rivalry. You'd think the Bulls are done after Jordan retires and then he comes back and they still failed in '95.


Don't hate us......join us........then you no longer Mad bro :oldlol: :rockon:
We trying to hit 20 titles before this decade is over....only 4 away...so close :cheers:

[funnystuff]

Oh god, a Laker fan negged me. :cry:

[funnystuff]

do it
You only bold '2nd round exit' because you believe a WCF exit is honestly very possible. :applause:

[All Net]

You only bold '2nd round exit' because you believe a WCF exit is honestly very possible. :applause:

Be pretty foolish to think lakers can't lose to the thunder but it shouldn't be the Expection.

[kennethgriffin]

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[JellyBean]

Not me. This is why the Lakers are so great. Think about it. In the Lakers entire history, they have only missed the playoffs 5 times (Basketball Reference). 60 some odd years and only missed the playoffs 5 times!!

But nope I am sick or tired of the Lakers getting superstars. This is what championship teams do, get talent to add to their legacy. Some teams are cool with getting into the playoffs every year, which is ok. But there are teams where the focus is on getting that NBA crown, and those teams are the Lakers and Celtics. I aint made at the Lakers. This is what champs do.

[longtime lurker]

Not me. This is why the Lakers are so great. Think about it. In the Lakers entire history, they have only missed the playoffs 5 times (Basketball Reference). 60 some odd years and only missed the playoffs 5 times!!

But nope I am sick or tired of the Lakers getting superstars. This is what championship teams do, get talent to add to their legacy. Some teams are cool with getting into the playoffs every year, which is ok. But there are teams where the focus is on getting that NBA crown, and those teams are the Lakers and Celtics. I aint made at the Lakers. This is what champs do.

Truth.

[funnystuff]

Be pretty foolish to think lakers can't lose to the thunder but it shouldn't be the Expection.
Please, the expectations of this Laker team is to win it all, all over ISH.

[All Net]

Please, the expectations of this Laker team is to win it all, all over ISH.

Most have Miami winning it all again actually.

[TheMan]

The Lakers always go after the best big man if they can get, and usually they do.

Mikan
Wilt from the 76ers
KAJ from the Bucks
Shaq from the Magic
Howard from the Magic

They build around big men.

[kurple]

i respect a lot of Lakers fans.. But i've always found it weak choosing the Lakers as your team if you're european for example

my teams are:

Denver Nuggets
Manchester City
Atletico Madrid

i doubt any of you Lakers fans can imagine the joy i felt when City won the Premier League last season, after MANY years of missery

[ChicagoMadeMe]

I dont even care for the Lakers and i disagree with the thread starter. Players have preferences where they wish to live and team up with, so they choose to go to certain places in most situations.. but to be honest..im going where i can get max dollar. Cant play forever, would like to earn as much as i can while im able. Then i will move to where i wanna be after i retire.

[DFish]

i respect a lot of Lakers fans.. But i've always found it weak choosing the Lakers as your team if you're european for example

my teams are:

Denver Nuggets
Manchester City
Atletico Madrid

i doubt any of you Lakers fans can imagine the joy i felt when City won the Premier League last season, after MANY years of missery

Have you ever lived in Denver, Manchester or Madrid? Do you have any personal connection whatsoever with those cities or teams?

I'm guessing the answer is no. Obvious bandwagoner.

[kurple]

Have you ever lived in Denver, Manchester or Madrid? Do you have any personal connection whatsoever with those cities or teams?

I'm guessing the answer is no. Obvious bandwagoner.
do you know what bandwagoner means?

my father has been a city and atleti fan his entire life (a lot of his family live in Madrid). But the Nuggets was because I didnt have a favorite team and Melo/AI were my favorite players + i didnt want to pick the best team cause it's ghey

[kurple]

you are just mad because i have experienced REAL joy as a fan

[funnystuff]

Most have Miami winning it all again actually.
All logical NBA fans have Miami as the favorite to win and repeat. Unfortunately ISH is almost completely run by uneducated Laker fans.

[gilalizard]

Don't worry Miami fan, you still have the most shamelessly stacked team in the league.

And to fall back on, there's all the ref help LeFlop and dwhistle get. LeFlop actually gets a historical level of favoritism from the refs! It's really incredible to watch. That level of ref bias in your back pocket can never be counted out. :rockon:

Final reason for Miami stans to not lament: Kobe is always capable of deciding he needs to "play outside the system" and end up basically shooting the Lakers out of the game. With his advancing age and lessening athleticism, this trait will become even more damaging than it has been up to this point.

[RazorBaLade]

i respect a lot of Lakers fans.. But i've always found it weak choosing the Lakers as your team if you're european for example

my teams are:

Denver Nuggets
Manchester City
Atletico Madrid

i doubt any of you Lakers fans can imagine the joy i felt when City won the Premier League last season, after MANY years of missery

But you've also never felt the pain of losing when you really believed you'd win. Thats why we (laker fans) all freak the **** out when we lose and start trading people and blaming guys. We EXPECT to win, so when it doesnt happen, it feels so much worse.

But also, we actually lost for a while. but we had kobe going off those years, so it definitely doesnt copmare... but losing when you really believe youre gonna win is a different kind of feeling that really only laker fans can experience

[DirtySanchez]

I am a Laker fan and Raider fan....see the balance?

[DixieNourmous]

I am a Laker fan and Raider fan....see the balance?

I feel the pain http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m399/gtownzgreatez/raiders-1.gif

[All Net]

All logical NBA fans have Miami as the favorite to win and repeat. Unfortunately ISH is almost completely run by uneducated Laker fans.

Laker fans are uneducated for thinking they will win it all with a team of Nash,Kobe,Pau,Dwight? I'm sorry but you are talking nonsense. Lakers stand a great shot at winning it all like Miami and thunder do.

Miami have earnt the right to be favourites as the champs.

[kurple]

But you've also never felt the pain of losing when you really believed you'd win. Thats why we (laker fans) all freak the **** out when we lose and start trading people and blaming guys. We EXPECT to win, so when it doesnt happen, it feels so much worse.

But also, we actually lost for a while. but we had kobe going off those years, so it definitely doesnt copmare... but losing when you really believe youre gonna win is a different kind of feeling that really only laker fans can experience
true

[LakersReign]

All logical NBA fans have Miami as the favorite to win and repeat. Unfortunately ISH is almost completely run by uneducated Laker fans.

Yeah....the same "logical" NBA fans who are trying to say Lebron's 1 title is supposedly >/= 5 or 6 titles, which somehow makes Lebron a Top 5 GOAT now....those "logical" NBA fans?

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