#24 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops

[Deuce Bigalow]

George Mikan was voted the #23 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops.

23.1 PPG | 13.4 RPG | 2.8 APG

5

[lilgodfather1]

David Robinson.

[WillC]

Bob Cousy.

[crisoner]

Scratch that...

Rick Barry yall

http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/multimedia/photo_gallery/1007/top.10.new.jersey.athletes/images/rick-barry.jpg

[QUOTE] NBA champion (1975)
NBA Finals MVP (1975)
ABA champion (1969)
8

[RaininTwos]

Milan had such STIFF COMPETITION for that greatest player of the first half century award. Lol.

[Dragonyeuw]

David Robinson.

[WillC]

Scratch that...

Rick Berry yall

So you're voting for a player whose name you can't even spell? Interesting.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Scratch that...

Rick Berry yall

http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/multimedia/photo_gallery/1007/top.10.new.jersey.athletes/images/rick-barry.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/181/417733875_a0905f498a.jpg

[crisoner]

Damn it...my bad.

[kurple]

y no zeke votes yet?

[Dragonyeuw]

In all honesty once you get past the top 15 it becomes much more difficult. Most people's top tens have the same players, in differing orders but we seem to agree on the players. But once you get to 16-25 range, who's better? Admiral or Isiah? Barkley or Malone? Garnett or Elgin? Havlicek or Pippen? What's the measuring criteria? I mean how do we objectively do these rankings?

[crisoner]

In all honesty once you get past the top 15 it becomes much more difficult. Most people's top tens have the same players, in differing orders but we seem to agree on the players. But once you get to 16-25 range, who's better? Admiral or Isiah? Barkley or Malone? Garnett or Elgin? Havlicek or Pippen? What's the measuring criteria? I mean how do we objectively do these rankings?

I think that's the fun part...right now. There are a whole lot of players to consider...it's interesting to see who people pick.

I was going to say Pippen...but I notice for a certain player to win you need to mention them early on so they pop in peoples minds. That's why I said Rick Barry because he deserves to come up soon.

[MiamiThrice]

http://www.nba.com/media/finals2006/dwade_mvp380.jpg

Dwyane Wade with the best playoff series in NBA History winning his team a title.

-Averaged 40 PPG in the wins
-Awful supporting cast compared to other title winners
-Team was underdogs
-30-5-8-2-2 on 49/32/77 in his prime.

This guy had the most impressive series in NBA History, led his team to a titlee single-handily, and won another title as a 2nd option, all with some All NBA teams. It is his time.

[East_Stone_Ya]

Elvin Hayes :pimp:

[IGotACoolStory]

http://img.spokeo.com/public/900-600/isiah_thomas_1988_06_01.jpg

[DatAsh]

David Robinson

[kennethgriffin]

:facepalm @ bob cousy possibly not being a top 25 player all time

you could argue him as a top 15 player all time for god sake

he was the MVP the year the celtics won the title in 1957


it wasnt always bill russell



10 time first team all nba

6 time nba champion



common...

[Optimus Prime]

Hey where was my vote for Matt Geiger?! :(

Him refusing to waive his $5 million trade kicker in 2001 kept AI from being traded to the Pistions!

:kobe:

[BlackVVaves]

David Robinson

[Deuce Bigalow]

Hey where was my vote for Matt Geiger?! :(

Him refusing to waive his $5 million trade kicker in 2001 kept AI from being traded to the Pistions!

:kobe:
:kobe:

[KG215]

Milan had such STIFF COMPETITION for that greatest player of the first half century award. Lol.

Posting from an iPhone?

[Raz]

Rick Barry
http://celebslists.com/images/rick-barry-01.jpg

Any other choice is a grave mistake.

[KG215]

Isiah Thomas

[Eric Cartman]

I'm torn between Isiah and David Robinson.

Going with Isiah but by the smallest margin.

[Kiarip]

http://www.nba.com/media/finals2006/dwade_mvp380.jpg

Dwyane Wade with the best playoff series in NBA History winning his team a title.

-Averaged 40 PPG in the wins
-Awful supporting cast compared to other title winners
-Team was underdogs
-30-5-8-2-2 on 49/32/77 in his prime.

This guy had the most impressive series in NBA History, led his team to a titlee single-handily, and won another title as a 2nd option, all with some All NBA teams. It is his time.

so joey crawford?

[Young X]

Dwyane Wade

[Optimus Prime]

so joey crawford?

ZING!!!

:kobe:

[fsvr54]

isaiah thomas

[Heilige]

Isiah Thomas

[JMT]

Rick Barry

[Sarcastic]

Isiah Thomas.

[Nash]

Wade

[Rnbizzle]

Wade

[JellyBean]

Pippen.

[longhornfan1234]

David Robinson.

[WockaVodka]

David "The Admiral" Robinson

[chips93]

isiah thomas

[crisoner]

Wade

Please f*cking explain why Wade would be this high.

Gah damn man....

[crisoner]

Rick Barry
http://celebslists.com/images/rick-barry-01.jpg

Any other choice is a grave mistake.

Thank you!

[crisoner]

I would take Zeke, Barry, Bill Walton, Pippen, etc. etc. over Wade any day. Is Dirk still not on the list? I'd take Dirk...I'd take Jason Kidd. Bob Cousy...Gail Goodrich...David Robinson...all over Wade.

[MiamiThrice]

I would take Zeke, Barry, Bill Walton, Pippen, etc. etc. over Wade any day. Is Dirk still not on the list? I'd take Dirk...I'd take Jason Kidd. Bob Cousy...Gail Goodrich...David Robinson...all over Wade.

Dirk is already on the list.

Switch Wade with anyone you listed and Miami doesn't have a ring in 2006. I am certain of that.

-Isiah Thomas and Bob Cousy just played on stacked teams.
-Rick Barry spent a lot of his time in the ABA
-Scottie Pippen?Lol not even a franchise player. Ditto for David Robinson. Both of those guys are more suited to being Number 2's.

Gail Goodrich? Yeah alright keep hating on the dude averaging 40 PPG to get his team and city a championship. None of them could have done what Wade did.

[BlackVVaves]

Wade should be #26, after Robinson and Pippen.

Zeke and Wade have pretty similar careers, in terms of objective assessment of their NBA resumes.

Same number of rings, same number of FMVPs, no MVPs. Spent most of their career as merely the second (or third, at times, for Zeke) best players at their positions.

That makes Wade's few dominant seasons all the more important. Zeke's 20/10 seasons are nearly impossible to duplicate, but do they overshadow Wade's 2006 post-season or 2009 season?

My answer is no, but that's just my opinion.

[nycelt84]

Bob Cousy

[L.Kizzle]

Zeke Thomas

[longtime lurker]

Wade should be #26, after Robinson and Pippen.

Zeke and Wade have pretty similar careers, in terms of objective assessment of their NBA resumes.

Same number of rings, same number of FMVPs, no MVPs. Spent most of their career as merely the second (or third, at times, for Zeke) best players at their positions.

That makes Wade's few dominant seasons all the more important. Zeke's 20/10 seasons are nearly impossible to duplicate, but do they overshadow Wade's 2006 post-season or 2009 season?

My answer is no, but that's just my opinion.

Absolutely. Zeke's the better player hands down. Not only did he go back to back titles, but he beat Jordan, Bird, Magic while they were still in the prime! He didn't have any superstar teammates either. The level of competition you face matters and he faced and beat the best.

[RRR3]

I would take Zeke, Barry, Bill Walton, Pippen, etc. etc. over Wade any day. Is Dirk still not on the list? I'd take Dirk...I'd take Jason Kidd. Bob Cousy...Gail Goodrich...David Robinson...all over Wade.
You just trapped yourself in your own "logic". If you'd take Bill Walton over Wade, clearly you place huge value on peak play, considering Walton had, what, two dominant seasons? But then you say you would rank Kidd over Wade, when the only reason for doing so would HAVE to be longevity, seeing as Wade is a better peak player. Let's be honest here, you just don't like Wade. :kobe:

[KingBeasley08]

You just trapped yourself in your own "logic". If you'd take Bill Walton over Wade, clearly you place huge value on peak play, considering Walton had, what, two dominant seasons? But then you say you would rank Kidd over Wade, when the only reason for doing so would HAVE to be longevity, seeing as Wade is a better peak player. Let's be honest here, you just don't like Wade. :kobe:
Couldn't have said it better myself.

[PJR]

Absolutely. Zeke's the better player hands down. Not only did he go back to back titles, but he beat Jordan, Bird, Magic while they were still in the prime! He didn't have any superstar teammates either. The level of competition you face matters and he faced and beat the best.

Dumars was a first ballot hall of famer, buddy.

[KingBeasley08]

Dumars was a first ballot hall of famer, buddy.
and their overall defense was nasty.

That said, my vote goes to David Robinson

[PJR]

I'd go with the Admiral as well.

[longtime lurker]

Dumars was a first ballot hall of famer, buddy.

Show me where Dumars is considered a superstar.

[KingBeasley08]

Show me where Dumars is considered a superstar.
That entire team was very balanced. They didn't have a single superstar (Thomas isn't even one IMO)

[PJR]

'Superstar' is a subjective term. Joe Dumars, relative to his era, was one of the best at his posistion. He was one of the better two way players in the game at his peak. He was a first ballot hall of famer. Not much to discuss, that equals 'superstar' in my book.

[chips93]

That entire team was very balanced. They didn't have a single superstar (Thomas isn't even one IMO)

:biggums:

isiah thomas wasnt a superstar? the only player in the modern era (if not ever?) to put up 21 and 14 wasnt a superstar?

the only player other that oscar to put up 4 20-10 seasons in the nba wasnt a superstar?

[L.Kizzle]

'Superstar' is a subjective term. Joe Dumars, relative to his era, was one of the best at his posistion. He was one of the better two way players in the game at his peak. He was a first ballot hall of famer. Not much to discuss, that equals 'superstar' in my book.
Joe Dumars was a nice complementary player, but was no were near a superstar. Hell, some people wouldn't even call Alex English a superstar and he was not on his level in the 80s.

[longtime lurker]

'Superstar' is a subjective term. Joe Dumars, relative to his era, was one of the best at his posistion. He was one of the better two way players in the game at his peak. He was a first ballot hall of famer. Not much to discuss, that equals 'superstar' in my book.

:facepalm you want to run me a list of first ballot hall of famers I promise you there are tons of guys that aren't even close to super stars on that list. Hell off the top of my head I think Chris Mullen was and no one would consider him a superstar. Hall of fame is heavily influenced by championships so cause and effect going on right here. I don't know what you're trying to argue, Isiah is better than Wade probably by a lot. The fact that Isiah is outside the top 20 is kind of a joke.

[colts19]

I like Pippen, Robinson, and Barry but at this spot I go with

ZEKE!!!

How did Dirk get ahead of these guys and Elvin Hayes and Kevin McHale.

[PJR]

If you were inducted into the Basketball Hall of Fame, you were a star of some capacity.

Robert Horry is a "nice complimentary player". Dumars was legitmate number 2 on a multiple title team.

[DaHeezy]

I think all the people who were despising zeke being voted in the top 20 are avoiding him now in spite

I vote zeke

[longtime lurker]

If you were inducted into the Basketball Hall of Fame, you were a star of some capacity.

Robert Horry is a "nice complimentary player". Dumars was legitmate number 2 on a multiple title team.

A superstar does not equal "ummm maybe star in some capacity" It's pretty clear cut who are superstars and who are not. Joe Dumars was not a superstar.

[TheeBeast]

David Robinson

1994-95 NBA MVP
10X Allstar
2X Champion
Rookie Of The Year
DPOY

[Snoop_Cat]

lol @ Dirk this high.

[Freedom Kid7]

Might as well vote Zeke (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7BmIVHdl3o) again. I doubt he'll be top 30 at this rate though

[KOBE143]

David

[L.Kizzle]

Might as well vote Zeke (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7BmIVHdl3o) again. I doubt he'll be top 30 at this rate though
Thomas was voted above Barkley the last time this was done.

He's somewhat on schedule with 4 players (Kobe, Bron, KG, Dirk) four players passing him in the past 5 seasons.

[Legends66NBA7]

If you were inducted into the Basketball Hall of Fame, you were a star of some capacity.

Go look up K.C. Jones, then come back to me.

[kennethgriffin]

mr basketball... not one of the top 24 players of all time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE5SDgXLb1g

:facepalm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QCP6mMMH2Q&feature=related

"babe ruth of basketball"

"houdini of the hardwood"

[Deuce Bigalow]

mr basketball... not one of the top 24 players of all time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE5SDgXLb1g

:facepalm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QCP6mMMH2Q&feature=related

"babe ruth of basketball"

"houdini of the hardwood"
I though George Mikan was "Mr. Basketball".

[QUOTE]George Lawrence Mikan, Jr. (June 18, 1924

[Freedom Kid7]

Thomas was voted above Barkley the last time this was done.

He's somewhat on schedule with 4 players (Kobe, Bron, KG, Dirk) four players passing him in the past 5 seasons.
I can see the argument for all of them to be honest. It is amazing how a ring seems to get furhter and further and further valued as time goes on.

[dyna]

David Robinson

[BlueandGold]

Mikan in the top25?

This might have saved the list.

Lebron at #11 though? I admit I'm a Lebron critic but there's no way he's ahead of West, Dr. J, Oscar and Moses yet.. All of those players had just as impressive career and playoff numbers and they did it for a longer stretch. Lebron's career isn't over so he can definitely move up but I'd like to see any legitimate broadcast commentator have him higher than 15.

Btw I vote D. Rob.

[TheBigVeto]

Rick Barry

[TheBigVeto]

y no zeke votes yet?

Dude be racist. Doesn't deserve to be in top 50.

[Freedom Kid7]

Dude be racist. Doesn't deserve to be in top 50.
Wait what?

[Deuce Bigalow]

David Robinson and Isiah Thomas both tied with 11 votes, Rick Barry 3rd with 4.

[pauk]

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/y%20NBA%20etc/z%20Body%20and%20Muscle%20of/David%20Robinson/drm.jpg

[Round Mound]

Rick Barry
David Robinson
John Stockton

Should Get the Next 3 Spots

[Deuce Bigalow]

In response to this reply in the previous tread

Isiah is not better than the Admiral. At no point was he even the best at his position, and the dude has a career PER of 18.1, offensive rating of 105.In 1990 the year Isiah won finals MVP he finished 4th in Total Win Shares on his team behind Laimbeer, Dumars, and Rodman. In fact he finished 4th in win shares in 1989 as well.That is nothing special in the slightest.
Isiah Thomas led the '89 & '90 Detroit Pistons in points, assists, and steals in the Playoffs.

[MiamiThrice]

Lol @ all the votes for David Robinson. One of the most overrated players of the 90s. This guy had talented cast after talented cast and choked on a regular basis. He didn't have the cohones to be a franchise player. Fitting that the Spurs didn't win until he took a role player role and Big Dick Duncan took over the team.

Wade is definitely superior to Robinson. He actually has the balls and talent to lead a team to a championship.

Ishiah Thomas? Hes basically like Chris Paul is right now. He just had the talent around him to succeed. He can't carry a team like Prime Dwyane Wade.

[pauk]

Lol @ all the votes for David Robinson. One of the most overrated players of the 90s. This guy had talented cast after talented cast and choked on a regular basis. He didn't have the cohones to be a franchise player. Fitting that the Spurs didn't win until he took a role player role and Big Dick Duncan took over the team.

Wade is definitely superior to Robinson. He actually has the balls and talent to lead a team to a championship.

Ishiah Thomas? Hes basically like Chris Paul is right now. He just had the talent around him to succeed. He can't carry a team like Prime Dwyane Wade.


..........................D-ROB........WADE...........
MVP........................1................0..... ........
FMVP......................0................1...... .......
CHAMP....................2................2....... ......
DPOY......................1.................0..... ........
ROTY.....................Yes..............No...... ......
1st All-NBA..............4.................2............
1st All-Def...............4.................0.............
All-Star..................10.................8........ ....
PPG.......................21................25.... .......
RPG.......................11.................5.... ........
APG........................3..................6... .........
SPG........................1..................2... ........
BPG........................3..................1... .........
PER Rating.............26.2.............25.7.........

David Robinson edges out, but Wade is close... dont worry Wade belongs here somewhere 25-30, he just has to battle it out with the likes of Bob Cousy (Cousy needs to come next imo, he might be ranked way to low here actually), Rick Barry, Isiah Thomas, Pippen and so on...

[fpliii]

Cousy

[Sarcastic]

Rick Barry
David Robinson
John Stockton

Should Get the Next 3 Spots


John Stockton ahead of Isiah Thomas, Pat Ewing, Walt Frazier?

FOH!!! Are are you on crack???

[TheCorporation]

http://www.nba.com/media/finals2006/dwade_mvp380.jpg

Dwyane Wade with the best playoff series in NBA History winning his team a title.

-Averaged 40 PPG in the wins
-Awful supporting cast compared to other title winners
-Team was underdogs
-30-5-8-2-2 on 49/32/77 in his prime.

This guy had the most impressive series in NBA History, led his team to a titlee single-handily, and won another title as a 2nd option, all with some All NBA teams. It is his time.

My vote as well

[Deuce Bigalow]

#24 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops Voting

13- David Robinson
12- Isiah Thomas
4- Bob Cousy
4- Rick Barry
4- Dwyane Wade
1- Elvin Hayes
1- Scottie Pippen

[G.O.A.T]

Isiah

[Deuce Bigalow]

Isiah and Robinson are tied with 12 votes.

[ScalabrineStan]

Zeke

[Deuce Bigalow]

Zeke
under 100 posts so you couldn't break the tie.

[Hittin_Shots]

Drob

[kurple]

under 100 posts so you couldn't break the tie.
wuut

[Coffee Black]

isiah!

[Deuce Bigalow]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=276326

This one is already over, #25 has been up.