Best pure shooter of all time

[BlueandGold]

Bird?
Reggie?
R. Allen?
C. Mullen?
Mark Price?
Peja?
Nash?
Dirk?

[fpliii]

are we talking anybody, or only guys who could create a shot? do role players count, or are these supposed to be players who are featured in an offense?

[pauk]

1. Drazen Petrovic
2. Reggie Miller
3. Larry Bird
4. Ray Allen
5. Glen Rice

About Drazen, ask any of those players under him who is the best shooter they ever seen and they will say Drazen, infact you can find quotes on most of them saying that, including Reggie (who i considered the best shooter ever). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EUo5p6D990

[L.Kizzle]

Lou Hudson.

[G-train]

Pistol Pete for mine.

[DaHeezy]

Best 3-point scorers are Ray eggie and the bunch, but as the best pure shooter I'll say Steve Kerr or John Paxson

[FireDavidKahn]

1. Drazen Petrovic
2. Reggie Miller
3. Larry Bird
4. Ray Allen
5. Glen Rice

About Drazen, ask any of those players under him who is the best shooter they ever seen and they will say Drazen, infact you can find quotes on most of them saying that, including Reggie. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EUo5p6D990
Nash > Rice in terms of pure shooting. Nash has to be in any top 5 when ranking pure shooters in NBA history. Nash has the volume and percentages to back it up.

[Freedom Kid7]

I'd have to say Ray Allen. Picture perfect jumper.

[fpliii]

he's not my GOAT, but Barry is obviously worthy of a mention here

[KOBE143]

Best pure shooter - Ray Allen
Best 3pt shooter - Regie Miller
Best all around shooter - Bird/Kobe

[EnoughSaid]

Since the only guy I've gotten to really watch is Shuttlesworth, he'll be my answer here.

[pauk]

Nash > Rice in terms of pure shooting. Nash has to be in any top 5 when ranking pure shooters in NBA history. Nash has the volume and percentages to back it up.

Nash is very accurate, but the volume is low compared to others... you have to consider the volume aswell (amount of of shots took and made, amount of difficult shots took and made).

Glen Rice at one point averaged 47% 3PT accuracy on 440 attempts (207 made shots) while averaging 27 PPG that season.... That is to brutal...

[livingby3's]

Warriors no. 30

[pauk]

Best pure shooter - Ray Allen
Best 3pt shooter - Regie Miller
Best all around shooter - Bird/Kobe

Stop it....

[ZenMaster]

Nash is very accurate, but the volume is low compared to others... you have to consider the volume aswell (amount of of shots took and made, amount of difficult shots took and made).

Glen Rice at one point averaged 47% 3PT accuracy on 440 attempts (207 made shots) while averaging 27 PPG that season.... That is to brutal for Nash...

Remember to take into account that the 3pt line was shorter at that time.

[KOBE143]

Stop it....
:mad: mad that Lebrick is the best Brick shooter of all time.. :lol

[Zedja]

:mad: mad that Lebrick is the best Brick shooter of all time.. :lol
Cool.

[Pushxx]

Bird.

[G-train]

Stop it....

Kobe's all round shooting abilities would be up there. In terms of variety and difficulty.

[IGotACoolStory]

Rice and Nash are almost within 100 3pters from each other (Rice's 3896 attempts to Nash's 3785). That's a better sample than a single season, imo. And Nash has a career percentage of .428, while Rice is at .400.

Rice has shot over 40% from 3 only four times in his entire career.
Nash? Four times... Oh wait, that's how many 50-40-90 seasons he has. 13 times he has shot over 40% from 3. You can say 12 since he didn't attempt many in his rookie season.

Nash has the highest free throw percentage in NBA history.

Even his overall fg% is at 49%. I mean he's almost a 50-40-90 career average player, ffs. Although I will admit that fg% isn't a necessary indicator of a shooter's ability. Obviously.

[BlueandGold]

are we talking anybody, or only guys who could create a shot? do role players count, or are these supposed to be players who are featured in an offense?
Anybody.

[DaHeezy]

Rice and Nash are almost within 100 3pters from each other (Rice's 3896 attempts to Nash's 3785). That's a better sample than a single season, imo. And Nash has a career percentage of .428, while Rice is at .400.

Rice has shot over 40% from 3 only four times in his entire career.
Nash? Four times... Oh wait, that's how many 50-40-90 seasons he has. 13 times he has shot over 40% from 3. You can say 12 since he didn't attempt many in his rookie season.

Nash has the highest free throw percentage in NBA history.

Even his overall fg% is at 49%. I mean he's almost a 50-40-90 career average player, ffs. Although I will admit that fg% isn't a necessary indicator of a shooter's ability. Obviously.

Great info, repped

[SunsCaptain]

Steve Nash is the best shooter in NBA history.

Not only his stats tell the story but the people that have seen him play.

And it is amazing how many BASKETBALL FANS DONT watch Steve Nash play.

The best PG of the era....in debate of all-time, Magic Level....and people dont see it.

Its so sad.

IMO Steve Nash isnt only the best Shooter of all-time he is the best PG of all-time.

But soon Goran Dragic will change history.



Edit: I guess the only good thing I can say about him going to LA is it will open more eyes.

[funnystuff]

Kobe's all round shooting abilities would be up there. In terms of variety and difficulty.
Difficulty? Dudes an idiot for taking difficult shots. You could say that for ANY player that takes those bonehead shots.

[Mach_3]

If were taking anybody i have to go with Larry, i've never seen someone who could shoot with a defender literally on top of him and make it look so effortless every single time. It was like no one was even there in the first place

[fsvr54]

The thing about all these other dudes compared to Nash is that they take tougher shots.

[SunsCaptain]

Difficulty? Dudes an idiot for taking difficult shots. You could say that for ANY player that takes those bonehead shots.

To be fair he takes those shots because he lacks the ability to get open.

Its a common trait.

I see so many players take difficult shots because they cant shake the defneder.

Kobe just isnt that gifted on offense. His defender shadows him so he developed a way to shoot the ball despite having a defender on him.

This results in his TERRIBLE fg%.

[Round Mound]

Mullin. He Could Not Just Be a Catch and Shoot Player but Could Create His Shot From Long Range.

[G-train]

Difficulty? Dudes an idiot for taking difficult shots. You could say that for ANY player that takes those bonehead shots.

I'm gonna keep it real.
He makes a lot of difficult shots that most players couldn't get off let alone make.
I won't deny one of they key skills of one of the best scorers ever.

[inclinerator]

best pure shooter without creating, ray allen

[BlueandGold]

BTW i fixed the thread, I was trying to think of mostly retired players.

Also think Dirk deserves a mention.

[DuMa]

"I've argued this with a lot of people in my life. When people say God blessed me with a beautiful jump shot, it really pisses me off. I tell those people, 'Don't undermine the work I've put in every day.' Not some days. Every day. Ask anyone who has been on a team with me who shoots the most. Go back to Seattle and Milwaukee and ask them. The answer is me -- not because it's a competition, but because that's how I prepare."

-Ray Allen

[KOBE143]

If were taking anybody i have to go with Larry, i've never seen someone who could shoot with a defender literally on top of him and make it look so effortless every single time. It was like no one was even there in the first place
this

Bird and Kobe can make a shot so effortlessly even with defender in their face.. These two are really the best all around shooter of all time.. No doubt..

[RRR3]

I'm gonna keep it real.
He makes a lot of difficult shots that most players couldn't get off let alone make.
I won't deny one of they key skills of one of the best scorers ever.
Same thing was true for prime T-Mac.

[inclinerator]

"I've argued this with a lot of people in my life. When people say God blessed me with a beautiful jump shot, it really pisses me off. I tell those people, 'Don't undermine the work I've put in every day.' Not some days. Every day. Ask anyone who has been on a team with me who shoots the most. Go back to Seattle and Milwaukee and ask them. The answer is me -- not because it's a competition, but because that's how I prepare."

-Ray Allen
i read somewhere ray only shoots 500 a day

[MisterAmazing]

gotta give it to ray. i think peja should be given a bit more credit in this thread

[G-train]

Same thing was true for prime T-Mac.

Yeah and he is one of the better scorers ever, I just happened to be talking about Kobe as another poster disputed his overall shooting ability.
I'm not a Kobe fan, but obvious is obvious. The guy is up there as the best difficult shot maker ever with Bird, Jordan and T-Mac isnt far behind if not in that group.

[G-train]

http://www.nba.com/statistics/default_all_time_leaders/AllTimeLeadersFG3Query.html

Interesting list.

[fpliii]

this

Bird and Kobe can make a shot so effortlessly even with defender in their face.. These two are really the best all around shooter of all time.. No doubt..

bro you never got back to me in the other thread

I'm interested in hearing your top 25 all-time, if you don't mind sharing

[pauk]

To many young generation fans here considering the Ray Allen opinions.
If you have been around to see the likes of Dell Curry, Glen Rice, Reggie Miller, Larry Bird, Dale Ellis, Drazen Petrovic, Jeff Hornacek, Mitch Richmond and Chris Mullin as much as you have seen Ray Allen.... your opinion would be different, i can guarantee you that.

[pauk]

Remember to take into account that the 3pt line was shorter at that time.

It was, but not any significant margin... but ok, how about 1988-89 then where Dale Ellis shot 48% 3PT accuracy on 162 of 339 while also averaging 28 PPG (shot 50% FG overall)......

Infact what Dale Ellis did in 1988-89 is worthy of being labeled the 2nd best player in the NBA today... same numbers as Durant but with even higher accuracy...

[Timmy D for MVP]

Shout out to Steve Kerr for guys that could stroke but didn't really create as much.

There have been a lot of great shooters, but the one that always sticks out in my mind when this topic comes up is Drazen. I was a kid when he died, but from the games I've seen on classics, and from the tapes and highlights I've seen I just sit in awe of his ability to shoot at will. More so than anyone else I will just marvel at it. It was crazy. And the stuff I have seen confirms what I hear most people talking about when Drazen is mentioned.

One of the biggest What If's in sports in my opinion...

[funnystuff]

I'm gonna keep it real.
He makes a lot of difficult shots that most players couldn't get off let alone make.
I won't deny one of they key skills of one of the best scorers ever.
I won't argue with this.

All i'm saying is the only person that forces Kobe to take those kind of shots is Kobe. He obviously wants to look flashy, its just sometimes his ego just gets the best of him.

[IGotACoolStory]

Well if we are just naming random shooters for the hell of it, where's the love for this guy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woZham-kFnI

[KOBE143]

bro you never got back to me in the other thread

I'm interested in hearing your top 25 all-time, if you don't mind sharing
You already have my top 10 so I'll start with 11..

11. Jerry West
12. Oscar
13. M. Malone
14. Dr. J
15. K. Malone
16. Barkley
17. DRob
18. Scottie Pippen
19. Zeke
20. KG
21. Dirk Nowitzki
22. LeBron James
23. Elgin Baylor
24. Rick Barry
25. George Mikan

[fpliii]

You already have my top 10 so I'll start with 11..

11. Jerry West
12. Oscar
13. M. Malone
14. Dr. J
15. K. Malone
16. Barkley
17. DRob
18. Scottie Pippen
19. Zeke
20. KG
21. Dirk Nowitzki
22. LeBron James
23. Elgin Baylor
24. Rick Barry
25. George Mikan

cool, thanks

[L.A. Jazz]

i am going with the guy Reggie Miller took when he was asked the same question: Drazen Petrovic

[KOBE143]

cool, thanks
You're welcome :D

[JaggerCommaMick]

Spot up: Stephen Nash
Catch and shoot (in rhythm): J. Shuttlesworth
Contested: Lawrence Bird
Rapid succession: Reginald Miller
Biggest mismatch: Dirk

[Boston C's]

To many young generation fans here considering the Ray Allen opinions.
If you have been around to see the likes of Dell Curry, Glen Rice, Reggie Miller, Larry Bird, Dale Ellis, Drazen Petrovic, Jeff Hornacek, Mitch Richmond and Chris Mullin as much as you have seen Ray Allen.... your opinion would be different, i can guarantee you that.

The only guys in that list that you can put over ray are reggie, drazen, and bird... I actually liked your top 5 except replacing rice with nash and that would pretty much be my top 5...but rice at 5 isn't a bad choice anyway

ppl like to talk about the role players and thats great and all but when looking at the best shooters all time you usually look at the guys who were the featured guy on offense their whole career like ray, reggie, and bird...i still feel that ray and bird were the best scorers out of all the 3 point shooters with guys like reggie, mullin, and rice right up there

btw mad respect to drazen...theres a reason why legendary shooters like reggie say he's the greatest

[Cali Syndicate]

Not the best as his career is still young but .... Anthony Morrow.

[LeBird]

When you look at it all; it's Bird (surprise :)).

Best range - 2/3 pointer - could do it contested; consistent; clutch and an elite scorer.

[SyRyanYang]

4 pages yet no one mentions Jason Kapono who holds two highest 3-point shootout record. :(

[pauk]

You already have my top 10 so I'll start with 11..

11. Jerry West
12. Oscar
13. M. Malone
14. Dr. J
15. K. Malone
16. Barkley
17. DRob
18. Scottie Pippen
19. Zeke
20. KG
21. Dirk Nowitzki
22. LeBron James
23. Elgin Baylor
24. Rick Barry
25. George Mikan

http://www.gifsforum.com/images/gif/disapoint/grand/cuban_disapoint_gif_546.gif

[bdreason]

Dell Curry or Dale Ellis.

[Force]

DALE ELLIS deserves mention.

I didn't read all the responses but Ellis was unreal. It is a little strange that his FT% wasn't higher but watching him as a kid, when he put up a long shot you had to assume it was going in.

[pauk]

Spot up: Craig Hodges or Steve Kerr (trust me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woZham-kFnI)
Catch and shoot (in rhythm): Reggie Miller
Contested: Larry Bird
Rapid succession: Reggie Miller
Biggest mismatch: Larry Bird
Clutch: Larry Bird or Reggie Miller

Fixed. :cheers:

[kennethgriffin]

the problem with grouping role players with stars is that the pure shooting stars actually have to deal with defenders

the role players like kerr etc... only shot when they were wide open

the stars like bird had to create a shot for themselves



so IMO role player shooters are bums and should never be listed in such a debate


best pure shooters ever are guys like rick barry, reggie miller, ray allen, larry bird

if i had to pick one.. i'd go with ray allen... his shot technique puts him over the awkward styles of barry, miller and bird..
plus the all time 3 point record doesnt hurt either

[Overdrive]

Chris Jackson deserves a mention. Could kill teams singlehandly with his shooting.

[pauk]

Dont forget Tim Legler aswell... won the 3pt contest and at his prime shot 51% FG, 52% 3PT, 88% FT...

50-40-90 club? How about almost creating the first qualified 50-50-90 club? Infact, he is the only player in NBA history to shoot at least 51-52-86 with at least 70 games played and at least 150 taken fg/3pt/ft shots...

Its a shame his shooting prime was so short (knee injury).

[DirtySanchez]

Fab five for me...

1. Bird .....the guy was just money
2. Reggie Miller ......specially during the end of games
3. Ray Allen.....need I say more
4. Chris Mullin.....Mully was money specially during his Run TMC days
5. Peja..... During the reg season with sac dude was unstoppable

[necya]

best pure shooter : Chris Mullin
Allen has the most beautiful shot imo, not the same thing.

[j3lademaster]

Don't think he's necessarily the GOAT shooter personally, but any type of "best shooter" debate has to include at least a mention of Mark Price.

[josh99]

http://imgsrv.espn1100.com/image/kwwn2/UserFiles/Image/BlogPix/antoine-walker.jpg

:pimp:

[Eric Cartman]

http://imgsrv.espn1100.com/image/kwwn2/UserFiles/Image/BlogPix/antoine-walker.jpg

:pimp:

f*ck is this?

[East_Stone_Ya]

''Why hasn't no one mentioned me yet?''

http://www.depressedfan.com/images/korver010208.jpg

[FireDavidKahn]

Nash is very accurate, but the volume is low compared to others... you have to consider the volume aswell (amount of of shots took and made, amount of difficult shots took and made).

Glen Rice at one point averaged 47% 3PT accuracy on 440 attempts (207 made shots) while averaging 27 PPG that season.... That is to brutal...
Well, we're talking career wise aren't we? If not, then it changes everything. But career wise I'd give a slight nod over Rice. Nash has career averages of 49.1%/42.8% (3.3 3PA/game)/90.4% versus Rice @ 45.6%/40% (3.9 3PA/game)/84.6%.

[unknowns8]

the best pure shooters???

Definitively not Tequila... :hammerhead: :no: :eek:

Sambucca Galliano or Cork Sarking Cowboy is what you defer to when you need to get the opposition in bed butt naked and ready to rake it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

[Optimus Prime]

http://imgsrv.espn1100.com/image/kwwn2/UserFiles/Image/BlogPix/antoine-walker.jpg

:pimp:

Antoine why do you shoot so many threes?

Because they don't have any 4s!!!

:oldlol:

:kobe:

[DaHeezy]

Am I still the only poster on here who said Steve Kerr or John Paxson :wtf:

ISH has a hard time giving credit out. All these muthafuggin Jordan fans makes me wonder if they've ever seen Bulls games

[Dragonyeuw]

Jerry West deserves a mention, no?

[atljonesbro]

Ray Allen. No one does it better.

[DaHeezy]

Jerry West deserves a mention, no?


:oldlol:
There was no 3-pointers back then

I love how these threads turn to a name a player who hasn't been mentioned yet.

[Dragonyeuw]

:oldlol:
There was no 3-pointers back then



So because of that, that doesn't make him a good shooter? What would be the point of me naming people like Bird, Kerr, Reggie, Ray Ray, etc etc etc etc if they've already been mentioned? What would I be adding that's new to the thread?

[MastahX]

Jeff Hornacek top 5 no doubt

[Sarcastic]

6 pages and not one mention of Mark Price?

:eek:

:no:

[DaHeezy]

Best pure shooters, not best 3 point shooters. They didn't invent shooting when they painted the 3 point line on the floor.

BTW Kerr is a good one

My bad, reading deficiencies :hammerhead:

[CavaliersFTW]

Bird?
Reggie?
R. Allen?
C. Mullen?
Mark Price?
Peja?
Nash?
Dirk?
Fan of the Blue and Gold yet u didn't even think to put Jerry Wests name in the hat :biggums:

[Dragonyeuw]

6 pages and not one mention of Mark Price?

:eek:

:no:

He's been mentioned a few times already.....

[FireDavidKahn]

Am I still the only poster on here who said Steve Kerr or John Paxson :wtf:

ISH has a hard time giving credit out. All these muthafuggin Jordan fans makes me wonder if they've ever seen Bulls games
John Paxson shouldn't even be in the discussion for best shooters of all time.

[WillC]

Mark Price.

[scm5]

I'm not trying to name someone new just for the hell of it but I seriously think Steph Curry is going to end up being the best shooter the NBA has ever seen. Not saying he's the best right now, let alone all time, but he has a good shot at it.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/curryst01.html

He takes 4.7 3FGA per game and drains 44% of them for his career. He does this while creating the shots mostly by himself.

He will only get better. That shot is also the best looking shot imo.

[swi7ch]

Larry Legend

[ILLsmak]

Nash is very accurate, but the volume is low compared to others... you have to consider the volume aswell (amount of of shots took and made, amount of difficult shots took and made).

Glen Rice at one point averaged 47% 3PT accuracy on 440 attempts (207 made shots) while averaging 27 PPG that season.... That is to brutal...

Short 3 point line should be noted.

-Smak

[BlueandGold]

Fan of the Blue and Gold yet u didn't even think to put Jerry Wests name in the hat :biggums:
There's just too many to count, those were just off the top of my head. Either way someone is going to get slighted. Also I tried to not include as many Lakers because it might seem like I have a bias. West should definitely be on that list along with Kobe.

Anyways good responses so far. Some things to consider when factoring in the best shooter:

large body of work/career (volume shooters)
TS%, FG% on so many shots made, FT%, 3PT%


6 pages and not one mention of Mark Price?




I listed him off the top in the OP

[Simple Jack]

No love for Peja Stojakovic?

[josh99]

f*ck is this?
You don't know Antoine Walker??

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62547

[Mr. I'm So Rad]

Chris Mullin

To add on to what another poster said, if healthy, I think Steph Curry can become a legendary shooter. He has a nice high, quick release and is so accurate.

[blacknapalm]

Chris Mullin

To add on to what another poster said, if healthy, I think Steph Curry can become a legendary shooter. He has a nice high, quick release and is so accurate.

agreed. curry's shooting form is a beaut. mullin's mid-range game was too sick in his prime.

i haven't really seen him mentioned much but i'll give an overlooked/underrated shoutout to mitch richmond

[Dro]

1. Drazen Petrovic
2. Reggie Miller
3. Larry Bird
4. Ray Allen
5. Glen Rice

About Drazen, ask any of those players under him who is the best shooter they ever seen and they will say Drazen, infact you can find quotes on most of them saying that, including Reggie (who i considered the best shooter ever). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EUo5p6D990
Reggie has changed his mind since then..He said on that full court show with Shaq, Barkley, etc that he considers himself the best shooter of all time...

[Dro]

And how in the hell are people saying Kobe? Are you guys being sarcastic???

[TheBigVeto]

And how in the hell are people saying Kobe? Are you guys being sarcastic???

Those are just Kobetards.

[silenc]

Steve Nash is the best shooter in NBA history.

Not only his stats tell the story but the people that have seen him play.

And it is amazing how many BASKETBALL FANS DONT watch Steve Nash play.

The best PG of the era....in debate of all-time, Magic Level....and people dont see it.

Its so sad.

IMO Steve Nash isnt only the best Shooter of all-time he is the best PG of all-time.

But soon Goran Dragic will change history.



Edit: I guess the only good thing I can say about him going to LA is it will open more eyes.
what are you eating?

Best pure shooter? IMO Miller, Allen or Mulln.

[LA Lakers]

Pistol Pete and Reggie Miller come to mind. But depends on how you define pure shooter...

[9512]

''Why hasn't no one mentioned me yet?''

http://www.depressedfan.com/images/korver010208.jpg

Didn't know Ashton Kutcher played basketball. :D