View Full Version : Bosh Moving to Center
eliteballer
09-09-2012, 09:27 PM
[QUOTE]Chris Bosh is adding six pounds of muscle to prepare for the rigors of playing a full season at center.
Bosh
AirTupac
09-09-2012, 09:28 PM
In before Howard smashes him
airchibundo507
09-09-2012, 09:28 PM
not a good idea. Amare tried the same thing and his sluggish ass was worthless half the season.
G-train
09-09-2012, 09:35 PM
not a good idea. Amare tried the same thing and his sluggish ass was worthless half the season.
Amare is prone, and plays with alot of physical contact on offence.
Bosh will play the same on offence, and this will be just to aid with defensive rebounding.
Rubio2Gasol
09-09-2012, 09:41 PM
Is this news ?
Offense it gives them a lot while they aren't lowing anything on defense.
Might actually be a decent rim protector as a full-time center.
Bosh will probably even out at like 16-18 and 10 and play good defense.
More if he's the 2nd option which an argument could be made he should be .
lilgodfather1
09-09-2012, 09:46 PM
Does that mean that Shard or Allen will start? The two line ups I mean are
One: Chalmers/Wade/Allen/LeBron/Bosh
This one would allow them to have their best 5 players on the floor for the majority of the game, and the spacing would be EPIC.
Two: Chalmers/Wade/LeBron/Shard/Bosh
Again the spacing is great.
Rubio2Gasol
09-09-2012, 09:50 PM
Lebron at the 4 is the better one by some distance.
Lebron gets passive at the 3 they need to force him to be as aggressive as possible especially in transition, that's how he gets to where henshould be .
gasolina
09-09-2012, 09:51 PM
Most likely Battier is gonna start, you know, since it worked and won them a chip?
Colbertnation64
09-09-2012, 09:51 PM
Howard will kill him.
G-train
09-09-2012, 09:53 PM
Howard will kill him.
Fortunately for the Heat they dont play one on one.
Colbertnation64
09-09-2012, 09:59 PM
Fortunately for the Heat they dont play one on one.
Fortunately for the Lakers they'll be happy to have either Nash, Kobe, Pau, or MWP open :lol
lilgodfather1
09-09-2012, 10:03 PM
Howard will kill him.
I'm sure the Heat will be fine with Dwight Howard killing Bosh the two times they play next year :lol .
RagingBull33
09-09-2012, 10:10 PM
Didn't ya hear him? He gained a whole SIX pounds of muscle!
PacerRaptor
09-09-2012, 10:21 PM
Does that mean that Shard or Allen will start? The two line ups I mean are
One: Chalmers/Wade/Allen/LeBron/Bosh
This one would allow them to have their best 5 players on the floor for the majority of the game, and the spacing would be EPIC.
Two: Chalmers/Wade/LeBron/Shard/Bosh
Again the spacing is great.
what about starting Haslem at the 4???
Hoiids
09-09-2012, 10:25 PM
Haslem provides about a 9 inch vertical and a shaky jump shot.
Much more beneficial to start Battier at the 3/4 or Shard alonside Lebron
The starting lineup should be: Chalmers, Wade, Battier, Lebron, Bosh with Allen being the sixth man along with Cole and Shard getting decent minutes.
G-train
09-09-2012, 10:25 PM
what about starting Haslem at the 4???
Haslem is pretty cooked, and they like Bosh at the 5 for versatility and quickness.
kennethgriffin
09-09-2012, 10:26 PM
picture this finals matchup
howard vs bosh
gasol vs lebron ( we all saw what gasol did in the gold medal game lol )
4-0 sweep
Hoiids
09-09-2012, 10:28 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV3O94yv4vc
Lebron on Pau is fine for the Heat, this isn't the Olympics
Dictator
09-09-2012, 10:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV3O94yv4vc
Lebron on Pau is fine for the Heat, this isn't the Olympics
Didn't watch the vid, but Lebron on Pau would be very bad for the heat.
longtime lurker
09-09-2012, 10:34 PM
Yeah good luck to the Heat with that. People will be calling for Spoelstra's head 10 games into the season.
KingBeasley08
09-09-2012, 10:43 PM
picture this finals matchup
howard vs bosh
gasol vs lebron ( we all saw what gasol did in the gold medal game lol )
4-0 sweep
we also saw what lebron did :confusedshrug:
funnystuff
09-09-2012, 10:49 PM
If only LA could get past OKC, which they won't.
swi7ch
09-09-2012, 10:49 PM
6 pounds woah!!! :eek::eek::eek:
lpublic_enemyl
09-09-2012, 10:50 PM
Didn't ya hear him? He gained a whole SIX pounds of muscle!
thats actually a lot in such a short period of time
kNicKz
09-09-2012, 10:51 PM
If only LA could get past OKC, which they won't.
:roll: lets be honest OKC didnt exactly crush the crippled basketball reasons squad last year, lakers will probably go to the finals if they stay healthy
EvanW
09-09-2012, 10:56 PM
not a good idea. Amare tried the same thing and his sluggish ass was worthless half the season.Amare is dumber than a box of rocks and his body all banged up. big difference.
Hoiids
09-09-2012, 10:57 PM
6 pounds of pure muscle in a single offseason is physically impossible. They mean he gained six pounds and is getting stronger/bulkier. But six pounds of muscle isn't true
SpecialQue
09-09-2012, 11:03 PM
Any idea if Bosh can rape playing this position?
longtime lurker
09-09-2012, 11:05 PM
Any idea if Bosh can rape playing this position?
Visual representation of what will happen to Bosh playing the Center position
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o219/arkanthill/nba/shaq_danny_ferry.jpg
MiamiThrice
09-09-2012, 11:06 PM
The last time Chris Bosh beefed up he averaged 24.0 PPG, 10.8 RPG and 51.8% shooting on the Raptors. When he came to Miami he slimmed down considerably. Be scared rest of the league.
http://thesceneinto.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Chris-Bosh-center-of-attention.jpg
Hoiids
09-09-2012, 11:08 PM
http://jerseychaser.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Chris-Bosh-Suspect.gif
He is very sneaky
longtime lurker
09-09-2012, 11:09 PM
The last time Chris Bosh beefed up he averaged 24.0 PPG, 10.8 RPG and 51.8% shooting on the Raptors. When he came to Miami he slimmed down considerably. Be scared rest of the league.
http://thesceneinto.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Chris-Bosh-center-of-attention.jpg
and he led his team to a 40-42 record :bowdown:
Woooooo the rest of the league should be scurred. Why even play the season just hand the Heat the championship now!
Visual representation of what will happen to Bosh playing the Center position
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o219/arkanthill/nba/shaq_danny_ferry.jpg
Actually, this is visual representation of Bosh playing the center posistion.
http://ww2.hdnux.com/photos/13/65/61/3103817/3/628x471.jpg
longtime lurker
09-09-2012, 11:22 PM
Actually, this is visual representation of Bosh playing the center posistion.
http://ww2.hdnux.com/photos/13/65/61/3103817/3/628x471.jpg
Chris Bosh after 1 quarter of facing Dwight Howard
http://www.jsmdesign.com/photoblog/images/20081027110000_chrisbosh1.jpg
Bandito
09-09-2012, 11:23 PM
I don't see this as a bad move, in fact judging by his tremendous play in the finals on defense I was impressed by him. I see this as a positive for him, but he does need to bulk up.
Bandito
09-09-2012, 11:25 PM
Visual representation of what will happen to Bosh playing the Center position
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o219/arkanthill/nba/shaq_danny_ferry.jpg
What are those 2 doing:biggums:
ihoopallday
09-09-2012, 11:25 PM
I always start Bosh at center on 2k12. Might as well do it in real life :pimp:
LongLiveTheKing
09-09-2012, 11:28 PM
Honestly Bosh was playing great defense in the Finals as center. I don't see this as a bad move.
funnystuff
09-09-2012, 11:31 PM
http://jerseychaser.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Chris-Bosh-Suspect.gif
He is very sneaky
:oldlol:
Levity
09-09-2012, 11:39 PM
Raptor fans, didnt bosh try doing this in toronto, but decided to lose the weight after a season to save his knees? I thought i read that on here so many years ago.
longtime lurker
09-09-2012, 11:41 PM
What are those 2 doing:biggums:
Do we need to have a talk about the birds and the bees?
IGOTGAME
09-09-2012, 11:43 PM
Howard will kill him.
Chris Bosh put on weight one year in Toronto....he outplayed Howard BC of it. He is much better tat way but his body couldn't handle it.
inclinerator
09-09-2012, 11:49 PM
bosh will be fine with weakside help from lebron
ShaqAttack3234
09-09-2012, 11:58 PM
not a good idea. Amare tried the same thing and his sluggish ass was worthless half the season.
Bosh bulked up to 250 pounds prior to the '09-'10 season and had easily his best season. That year I thought he was not only a top 15 player without question, but close to a top 10 player. Not quite, but close, probably top 11-12 that season.
Bosh seemed stronger and more aggressive that year. He put up career highs in scoring at exactly 24 points per game, rebounding at almost 11 per game and FG% at almost 52%.
For a good chunk of the year, he was flirting with 25/12 and they had a nice record before Bosh went down for a stretch. They had a good shot to make the playoffs before they sat Bosh down for the last 5 games. Toronto still finished 40-42 and 35-35 in the games Bosh played
In fact, I thought he made a mistake losing weight when he went to Miami.
bokes15
09-10-2012, 12:02 AM
According to 82games.com, Bosh was splitting the time about half and half between the 4 and 5 anyways, because they don't have a true Center. So as has been said, this isn't news.
greymatter
09-10-2012, 12:13 AM
Fortunately for the Lakers they'll be happy to have either Nash, Kobe, Pau, or MWP open :lol
I'd be happy to leave MWP open all day. He couldn't hit the ground if it weren't for gravity.
longtime lurker
09-10-2012, 12:16 AM
Bosh bulked up to 250 pounds prior to the '09-'10 season and had easily his best season. That year I thought he was not only a top 15 player without question, but close to a top 10 player. Not quite, but close, probably top 11-12 that season.
Bosh seemed stronger and more aggressive that year. He put up career highs in scoring at exactly 24 points per game, rebounding at almost 11 per game and FG% at almost 52%.
For a good chunk of the year, he was flirting with 25/12 and they had a nice record before Bosh went down for a stretch. They had a good shot to make the playoffs before they sat Bosh down for the last 5 games. Toronto still finished 40-42 and 35-35 in the games Bosh played
In fact, I thought he made a mistake losing weight when he went to Miami.
Yeah it's called contract year.
k-vil
09-10-2012, 12:22 AM
There's no question in offense. It will be a match up problem for the other team.
But come to think of it, today the league is dominated by wing players so it would not be much of a problem for Heat, except for teams with the likes of Dwight and Bynum but for sure they have plan B playing against this team.
LT Ice Cream
09-10-2012, 01:01 AM
What difference is 6 pounds of muscle going to make?
brandonislegend
09-10-2012, 01:21 AM
The last time Chris Bosh beefed up he averaged 24.0 PPG, 10.8 RPG and 51.8% shooting on the Raptors. When he came to Miami he slimmed down considerably. Be scared rest of the league.
http://thesceneinto.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Chris-Bosh-center-of-attention.jpg
That versus this.
http://lostangelesblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/dwight_nojersey.jpg
mikek85
09-10-2012, 01:21 AM
Didn't ya hear him? He gained a whole SIX pounds of muscle!
Actually six pounds of purely muscle is a lot and very hard to gain. If you worked out you would know. :lol
plowking
09-10-2012, 01:27 AM
picture this finals matchup
howard vs bosh
gasol vs lebron ( we all saw what gasol did in the gold medal game lol )
4-0 sweep
Don't count out your Lakers that quickly. You guys might win 1 game.
G-Funk
09-10-2012, 01:42 AM
http://www.wallpapersd.com/media/images/8a48b7d12e.jpg
millwad
09-10-2012, 01:44 AM
http://www.wallpapersd.com/media/images/8a48b7d12e.jpg
Wilt Chamberlain would destroy everyone if he played today.
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/c0.0.300.300/p403x403/255327_516292881721133_757193623_n.jpg
G-Funk
09-10-2012, 01:52 AM
Don't count out your Lakers that quickly. You guys might win 1 game.
http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs1/2280684_o.gif
All Net
09-10-2012, 02:53 AM
It worked well in the finals. the only match-up where it could be an issue is with L.A but thats what Miami would need to adjust if that is the case.
eliteballer
09-10-2012, 03:05 AM
Lakers still have to beat OKC before worrying about Miami.
rhythmic
09-10-2012, 03:06 AM
Can someone explain to me why people act like Miami are the best champions of the last decade? They walked a tight rope the past two playoff runs. They would get spanked by at least ten teams from the past decade.
This Laker team is not only more talented but far more balanced, you people will find that out soon enough.
LA in six, max: if both teams are healthy.
DirtySanchez
09-10-2012, 03:12 AM
The Heat will heavily rely on getting in to the lane and kicking back to open shooters.
A good zone defense could mean curtains for the Heat in the playoffs.
DirtySanchez
09-10-2012, 03:13 AM
And manBynum would also beast against the Heat as well. Don't see Philly in the playoffs.
silenc
09-10-2012, 03:28 AM
Didn't ya hear him? He gained a whole SIX pounds of muscle!
:lol :lol
bdreason
09-10-2012, 03:45 AM
I think it will work. Especially if LeBron is really dedicated to taking his game to the post more often like Magic did.
alenleomessi
09-10-2012, 06:11 AM
oh and i thought it will be eddy curry
chips93
09-10-2012, 06:22 AM
Honestly Bosh was playing great defense in the Finals as center. I don't see this as a bad move.
defending kendrick perkins, and defending dwight howard are two vastly different propositions
Can someone explain to me why people act like Miami are the best champions of the last decade? They walked a tight rope the past two playoff runs. They would get spanked by at least ten teams from the past decade.
This Laker team is not only more talented but far more balanced, you people will find that out soon enough.
LA in six, max: if both teams are healthy
thats the problem with LA, we dont know if they can stay healthy, and they are far less likely to be at full strenght than miami is. injuries are part of the game
Bosh bulked up to 250 pounds prior to the '09-'10 season and had easily his best season. That year I thought he was not only a top 15 player without question, but close to a top 10 player. Not quite, but close, probably top 11-12 that season.
Bosh seemed stronger and more aggressive that year. He put up career highs in scoring at exactly 24 points per game, rebounding at almost 11 per game and FG% at almost 52%.
For a good chunk of the year, he was flirting with 25/12 and they had a nice record before Bosh went down for a stretch. They had a good shot to make the playoffs before they sat Bosh down for the last 5 games. Toronto still finished 40-42 and 35-35 in the games Bosh played
In fact, I thought he made a mistake losing weight when he went to Miami.
bosh himself said that he regretted it, because his shooting and finesse game suffered, he couldnt run the floor as well, and he thinks that the injuries were a direct result of the weight gain.
he said that his knees swelled up at the start of the year, and that his body just wouldnt be able to take the wear and tear of carrying that extra weight
CarlosBoozer
09-10-2012, 06:32 AM
http://www.donthatemiami.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/big-bosh.jpg
:bowdown:
BlackVVaves
09-10-2012, 06:35 AM
Everyone focusing on the Lakers, but big or small, Bosh at the center is going to be a serious problem if the Heat meet the 76ers in the post-season.
Rolando
09-10-2012, 07:45 AM
First of all you have to remember what happened last year when KG moved over. It is possible the Miami coaching staff considered this carefully and then wieghed the benefits of doing so with Bosh. The Heat, like the Celts will be able to run more and that is especially good for the Heat.
Also, perhaps the Heat see the Celts as thier toughest playoff match up. Maybe Bosh moving to center cancels any advantage KG was giving the Celts.
6 pounds of muscle is alot but definitely do-able for a guy who is as tall as Bosh.
Can someone explain to me why people act like Miami are the best champions of the last decade?
Who is acting like Miami is the best champions of the last decade?
Just because someone won't concede that the Lakers are a superior group without playing a damn game? A team in the opposite conference, and a team that Miami would have to worry for all but ONE SERIES? Child please.
And ya'll dudes are funny with all this "Miami is going to get killed inside" drivel.
Who killed Miami inside last year? :confusedshrug:
There are none, unless you take some of the regular season slip-ups as a pattern. To that I'll just point out singular game sample sizes. This argument is completely overblown, and a lot of people are going to pretend that they weren't beating this silly drum YET again, when reality dawns on them next Summer.
Dudes acting like Miami doesn't have the fastest rotating defense in the league. :confusedshrug:
Toizumi
09-10-2012, 08:38 AM
This means we're gonna see less of the Heat's other (pretty scrubby) Centers, more James at PF and more Halsem, now that he's fully healthy.
The "move" to Center will not be a big one really, as Bosh often defended Centers. His offensive game won't change much. He played a lot of minutes at the 5 in both Miami and Toronto, but it didnt change his game offensively. KG's move to the five last year changed the complexity of the team, but not his individual game. Same will go for Bosh I think. I hope Bosh will do more work inside this year, but I doubt it.
wally_world
09-10-2012, 10:24 AM
6lbs lol
what did he do? eat a cheeseburger?
SilkkTheShocker
09-10-2012, 11:29 AM
I would start Lewis before I start Haslem. I like Haslem off the bench as a rebounder/dirty work player. His jumpshot isn't as good as it used to be to be starting anymore.
SilkkTheShocker
09-10-2012, 11:33 AM
Everyone focusing on the Lakers, but big or small, Bosh at the center is going to be a serious problem if the Heat meet the 76ers in the post-season.
Who cares? Who do the 76er have after Bynum? Holiday and Turner aren't beating the Heat.
Mach_3
09-10-2012, 04:11 PM
http://www.wallpapersd.com/media/images/8a48b7d12e.jpg
Dwight's arms are so hilarious unproportioned to his shoulders. :roll:
imnew09
09-10-2012, 04:31 PM
Didn't get gained 10pounds last year as well and also tried to move to center?
Mr. Incredible
09-10-2012, 05:05 PM
I thought Bosh did great at center especially in Game 5. He wasn't afraid of contact and had a great night blocking shots. My only concern is throughout an 82 game season how he will hold up health wise.
The move sets up the Heat perfectly to have the most versatile offense in the league. They should have no problem averaging around 105 ppg.
I just don't see how any team besides the Lakers are going to beat the Heat in a 7 game series this year.
RaininTwos
09-10-2012, 05:10 PM
I dont know when Dwight Howard became Hakeem/Shaq/Wilt like these days. He's not that dominant on the offensive end to garner a double team. He will have to use his strength on Bosh because he doesn't have quicker feet. Plus guarding Bosh would put him at a disadvantage defensively because that means he wouldn't be able to protect the rim since that Bosh has a great jumpshot and needs to be guarded anywhere from three point range inwards.
Legends66NBA7
09-10-2012, 05:15 PM
I dont know when Dwight Howard became Hakeem/Shaq/Wilt like these days. He's not that dominant on the offensive end to garner a double team.
Dwight's the only center that dominates both ends consistently, that's why.
IamSofaKing
09-10-2012, 06:16 PM
Wont work.
Coming from a Raptors fan, on Bosh's contract season he put on about 15 pounds. He was beasting till the all star break. About half way through the season his body began having problems, more specifically his knees. His frame just isnt meant to hold all that weight.
http://www.clipperscurse.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/chris_bosh_main.jpg
http://www.theheckler.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/2012-5-18-ChrisBosh.jpg
lilgodfather1
09-10-2012, 06:57 PM
6 pounds of muscle since June? 4 months is plenty of time to gain that much muscle. You people seem to forget that these are not average Joe's who think because you lift the heaviest weight you can you will gain strength lol. These are guys with the best personal trainers money can buy, the best supplements that money can buy, just ask the juicing Lewis... (cokcsucker)...
6 pounds of muscle is actually a fairly big difference depending on your body type of course, with Bosh he is so skinny that it should make him look a lot bigger. Gaining muscle makes you stronger, making you stronger means you can play better post defense against the three or four good C's in the league.
Now onto the rest of this the Bosh vs. Dwight thing. This is a positive for the Heat. Dwight may be able to get his on offense when he gets passed the ball, I will not deny that. With that said though with Gasol guarding LeBron out to the three point line, and Dwight guarding Bosh out to the three point line that leaves the driving lanes WIDE open for LeBron and Wade.
chips93
09-10-2012, 07:03 PM
I dont know when Dwight Howard became Hakeem/Shaq/Wilt like these days. He's not that dominant on the offensive end to garner a double team. He will have to use his strength on Bosh because he doesn't have quicker feet. Plus guarding Bosh would put him at a disadvantage defensively because that means he wouldn't be able to protect the rim since that Bosh has a great jumpshot and needs to be guarded anywhere from three point range inwards.
:biggums:
rhythmic
09-10-2012, 07:16 PM
Who is acting like Miami is the best champions of the last decade?
Just because someone won't concede that the Lakers are a superior group without playing a damn game? A team in the opposite conference, and a team that Miami would have to worry for all but ONE SERIES? Child please.
And ya'll dudes are funny with all this "Miami is going to get killed inside" drivel.
Who killed Miami inside last year? :confusedshrug:
There are none, unless you take some of the regular season slip-ups as a pattern. To that I'll just point out singular game sample sizes. This argument is completely overblown, and a lot of people are going to pretend that they weren't beating this silly drum YET again, when reality dawns on them next Summer.
Dudes acting like Miami doesn't have the fastest rotating defense in the league. :confusedshrug:
So when the Heat signed James and Bosh and re-signed Wade, no one automatically proclaimed they were the heavy favorites? Calling them better then Boston etc. I love that double standard.
Fact is, Lakers are clearly more talented and are far more balanced. They have the two most important positions covered, something the Heat do not. On this forum there hasn't been a single Heat fan that thinks LA has a chance at beating Miami. This makes me think you guys truly believe your team is something special because this current Laker team is arguably the most talented team of the last 12 years (including 2004 Lakers).
People say LA should be worried about health.
Lets see how many total games the eight best players in the series missed the last three years.
Pau Gasol: 18 games (none in 11' and only 1 last season)
Dwight Howard: 14 games (4 in 11' and 12 last season)
Kobe Bryant: 17 games (none in 11' and 8 last season)
Steve Nash: 12 games (7 in 11' and 4 last season)
LeBron James: 13 games (3 in 11' and 4 last season)
Dwayne Wade: 28 games (6 in 11' and 17 last season)
Chris Bosh: 26 games (5 in 11' and 9 last season)
Ray Allen: 24 games (2 in 11' and 20 last season)
Uhm, seems like health might be a bigger concern for Miami then it is for LA. But I know, lets redefine logic and just use the age excuse and not really concentrate on each player's health history and their conditioning. Lets ignore that Dwight and Bryant are two of the best conditioned athletes in the league.
Fact is, despite their age: Nash/Kobe are still two of the best players in this league. Nash at 37 almost led a terrible Phoenix squad to a playoff berth last season and Dwight with his horrendous roster led Orlando to the playoffs yet again. The reason I love these additions is because they're the best at what they do. Dwight anchors a defense and Nash is an elite facilitator. Miami won a title with a big man who doesn't like to bang inside and two superstars who are pretty duplicate.
LA on the other hand have two players who have led a team to three straight final appearances plus a defensive anchor and a facilitator. Logically, it looks more promising on paper then Miami.
The thing is, I am not saying LA will definitely beat Miami or they won't struggle, but I do believe LA look better on paper then Miami does. Fact is, it didn't stop all you Heat bandwagoners from hyping up your talented roster but it's a different story when Laker fans do the same?
Hypocritical, don't you think?
Or are you going to tell me that Miami "fans" weren't crowning their team as champions the minute LeBron announced his decision. :rolleyes:
KingBeasley08
09-10-2012, 07:18 PM
[QUOTE=rhythmic
icewill36
09-10-2012, 08:32 PM
why are people saying this is a bad move because "howard will kill them" ?
the lakers have to make it out of the west before they are of any concern to miami... they should just cross that bridge when they come to it.
wakencdukest
09-10-2012, 08:46 PM
He's not going to look right with a bulked up body and that tiny little head.
Pushxx
09-10-2012, 08:54 PM
Almost every single person who has intentionally put on weight to handle a different position made the wrong decision.
Speed and quickness are much more important than bulk. Not to mention most people who gain weight just put fat on and not muscle which does shit.
longtime lurker
09-10-2012, 09:24 PM
Lol @ Chris Bosh being a defensive anchor
TheBigVeto
09-10-2012, 10:03 PM
Bosh should watch the old Celtics videos so that he can see how a smaller center (Russell) pwned a bigger center (Wilt)
G-Funk
09-10-2012, 10:54 PM
So when the Heat signed James and Bosh and re-signed Wade, no one automatically proclaimed they were the heavy favorites? Calling them better then Boston etc. I love that double standard.
Fact is, Lakers are clearly more talented and are far more balanced. They have the two most important positions covered, something the Heat do not. On this forum there hasn't been a single Heat fan that thinks LA has a chance at beating Miami. This makes me think you guys truly believe your team is something special because this current Laker team is arguably the most talented team of the last 12 years (including 2004 Lakers).
People say LA should be worried about health.
Lets see how many total games the eight best players in the series missed the last three years.
Pau Gasol: 18 games (none in 11' and only 1 last season)
Dwight Howard: 14 games (4 in 11' and 12 last season)
Kobe Bryant: 17 games (none in 11' and 8 last season)
Steve Nash: 12 games (7 in 11' and 4 last season)
LeBron James: 13 games (3 in 11' and 4 last season)
Dwayne Wade: 28 games (6 in 11' and 17 last season)
Chris Bosh: 26 games (5 in 11' and 9 last season)
Ray Allen: 24 games (2 in 11' and 20 last season)
Uhm, seems like health might be a bigger concern for Miami then it is for LA. But I know, lets redefine logic and just use the age excuse and not really concentrate on each player's health history and their conditioning. Lets ignore that Dwight and Bryant are two of the best conditioned athletes in the league.
Fact is, despite their age: Nash/Kobe are still two of the best players in this league. Nash at 37 almost led a terrible Phoenix squad to a playoff berth last season and Dwight with his horrendous roster led Orlando to the playoffs yet again. The reason I love these additions is because they're the best at what they do. Dwight anchors a defense and Nash is an elite facilitator. Miami won a title with a big man who doesn't like to bang inside and two superstars who are pretty duplicate.
LA on the other hand have two players who have led a team to three straight final appearances plus a defensive anchor and a facilitator. Logically, it looks more promising on paper then Miami.
The thing is, I am not saying LA will definitely beat Miami or they won't struggle, but I do believe LA look better on paper then Miami does. Fact is, it didn't stop all you Heat bandwagoners from hyping up your talented roster but it's a different story when Laker fans do the same?
Hypocritical, don't you think?
Or are you going to tell me that Miami "fans" weren't crowning their team as champions the minute LeBron announced his decision. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
JBrizzy
09-10-2012, 11:11 PM
I love seeing Bosh at center because of his long range shot. Draws the opponents big man out of the paint allowing LeBron / Wade to penetrate often. I guess bulking up a little bit will be useful at that position but I thought the way he was playing was pretty useful to the team.
therammingman
09-11-2012, 01:36 AM
bosh is gonna get pounded on a nightly basis
:lebronamazed:
Whoah10115
09-16-2012, 03:51 PM
KG's move to the five last year changed the complexity of the team, but not his individual game.
Finally. This is absolutely correct.
I also think it may not be the long-term solution for the Celtics...it certainly doesn't sound great for the Heat. I guess it's better than Joel Anthony as a starter, but it seems a lot more sensible for the Heat to try and sign a defensive-minded center. Easier said than done, but still.
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