#33 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops

[Deuce Bigalow]

John Stockton was voted the #32 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops.

13.1 PPG | 1.7 RPG | 10.5 APG

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[fsvr54]

Walt Frazier

[fpliii]

Stockton over Drexler? hmmmm

my vote is for the glide

[StateOfMind12]

Vote - Walt Frazier.

Frazier is getting seriously underrated. He is the 3rd greatest PG behind Magic and Oscar.

[MasterDurant24]

Frazier again.

[WillC]

Dolph Schayes ahead of Walt Frazier.... just.

A very difficult decision though.

[crisoner]

Nate Thurmond

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[Legends66NBA7]

Don't think Nate Thurmond will win this round, but cool to see a vote for him.

I actually see a Howard vs Thurmond vs Mourning battle much later.

[Eric Cartman]

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[crisoner]

Don't think Nate Thurmond will win this round, but cool to see a vote for him.

I actually see a Howard vs Thurmond vs Mourning battle much later.


That's how I been doing it. Like chess I been voting for certain player who I think should be coming up soon. To get them in to other posters minds!!!

:pimp:

[crisoner]

I actually see a Howard vs Thurmond vs Mourning battle much later.

And YES those three players are GREAT to compare to each other.

[INDI]

Frazier

[Rowe]

Bill Walton.

[Heilige]

Dolph Schayes

[Smoke117]

John Stockton should be higher. This list sucks camel dick. This is why the only list that matters is the list I MAKE. Other people's opinions. :rolleyes: Don't.give.a.FU.CK.

[WillC]

The list is actually really good except:

- Garnett/Barkley/Malone over Baylor and Pettit
- Pippen over Rick Barry

Both were cases of youngsters voting for players they've heard of.

Other than that, it's a surprisingly solid list.

[Smoke117]

The list is actually really good except:

- Garnett/Barkley/Malone over Baylor and Pettit
- Pippen over Rick Barry

Both were cases of youngsters voting for players they've heard of.

Other than that, it's a surprisingly solid list.

**** Rick Barry. Rick Barry was an overrated chucker. They didn't win the championship on his shoulders, they won it when his ass was on the bench and others could get involved and that idiot wasn't taking every single game shot. Rick Barry can eat shit. He's overrated as ****.

[BlackVVaves]

Walt Frazier for #33.

And Clyde the Glide for #34.

[Deuce Bigalow]

**** Rick Barry. Rick Barry was an overrated chucker. They didn't win the championship on his shoulders, they won it when his ass was on the bench and others could get involved and that idiot wasn't taking every single game shot. Rick Barry can eat shit. He's overrated as ****.
In the '75 Playoffs Barry averaged 42.7 MPG and led his team in points, assists, and steals.

[colts19]

Rick Barry, my next vote will be for E. Hayes

[Deuce Bigalow]

Rick Barry, my next vote will be for E. Hayes
Rick Barry was voted in at #28. So Hayes is your vote right?

[L.Kizzle]

It world is Stock better than Frazier?

[nycelt84]

Dolph Schayes and come to think of it he should have ranked higher than Stockton and Ewing.

[Freedom Kid7]

Hrmmmm.
Drexler is a pretty cool guy. Eh had good handles and doesn't afraid of anything

[Kblaze8855]

Dave Cowens is gonna end up like 54 with guys like Pistol Pete ahead of him who nobody in the league even wanted at the time while Dave was winning multiple titles and named MVP by the players.

"Because **** Dave Cowens...thats why" is about all the reason I can see for him getting like one vote so far. Not like its even an ABA thing. Reed is in for winning 2 rings when he was a roleplayer for one and it was with the ABA going strong as well.

Its not enough to outplay the #2 player on the list in his prime to take home the ring I guess. And considering that...I guess there is nothing he could have done to make anyone care.

If 2 rings dont get you love what would 3 do?

Some guys just dont have that hook. I wont bring him up again.

It could be worse. Last time people put Payton at 28 and Kevin Johnson over Dirk.

[L.Kizzle]

Dave Cowens is gonna end up like 54 with guys like Pistol Pete ahead of him who nobody in the league even wanted at the time while Dave was winning multiple titles and named MVP by the players.

"Because **** Dave Cowens...thats why" is about all the reason I can see for him getting like one vote so far. Not like its even an ABA thing. Reed is in for winning 2 rings when he was a roleplayer for one and it was with the ABA going strong as well.

Its not enough to outplay the #2 player on the list in his prime to take home the ring I guess. And considering that...I guess there is nothing he could have done to make anyone care.

If 2 rings dont get you love what would 3 do?

Some guys just dont have that hook. I wont bring him up again.

It could be worse. Last time people put Payton at 28 and Kevin Johnson over Dirk.
Cowens wont go that low.

And Glove and GMatt are not here to help KJ.

[Kblaze8855]

People being impressionable enough to listen to it is what concerned me. How little information must you have yourself to be talked into voting for Gary Payton as a top 30 all time player and KJ 50 spots over Tim Hardaway? Maybe argue hes better. Whatever. 50 spots higher?

[dyna]

Elvin Hayes

[DaHeezy]

Bob McAdoo

[hangintheair]

Pistol Pete Maravich

[L.Kizzle]

Pistol Pete Maravich
Richie Guerin > Pete Maravich

[tmacman]

Vote - Walt Frazier.

Frazier is getting seriously underrated. He is the 3rd greatest PG behind Magic and Oscar.
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[tmacman]

I vote for Clyde Drexler

[ScalabrineStan]

Frazier

[Round Mound]

Fraizer

[Snoop_Cat]

Frazier is better than Stockton.... FRAZIER.

Also, agreed on Cowens and the moment that Pistol Pete is voted in the top 50, this list should be stopped because Pistol Pete is trash.

[WillC]

Frazier is better than Stockton.... FRAZIER.

Also, agreed on Cowens and the moment that Pistol Pete is voted in the top 50, this list should be stopped because Pistol Pete is trash.

I look forward to arguing for Pistol Pete in a future thread.

He certainly was not trash; he had the misfortune of playing with worse teammates than nearly any 'superstar' in NBA history. Put him in Magic Johnson or Bob Cousy's situation and he'd be regarded as a top 20 player of all-time.

The man was phenomenal.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Dolph Schayes ahead of Walt Frazier.... just.

A very difficult decision though.
Schayes shot 35.9% FG in the '55 Playoffs when his team won the Championship that year. I just can't respect that, there is no 3 point line and defense is weak at that time.

Walt Frazier

[Legends66NBA7]

Dolph Schayes might not get it now, but he's probably Top 40-45 range material.

Either Fraizer, Cowens, or Hayes take this.

[Deuce Bigalow]

#33 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops Voting

9- Walt Frazier
3- Clyde Drexler
3- Dolph Schayes
2- Elvin Hayes
1- Nate Thurmond
1- Bill Walton
1- Bob McAdoo
1- Pete Maravich

[Legends66NBA7]

Surprised there isn't a campaign for Iverson either. (Not a vote)

He would be over Stockton for me too. Should be in the Top 35 or Top 40, now that I think about it.

[Kblaze8855]

He certainly was not trash; he had the misfortune of playing with worse teammates than nearly any 'superstar' in NBA history.


He joined a Hawks core that was a playoff team before he got there and in his first season was one of 5 recent all stars and all but one of them proved to still be capable of playing on a high level. His Jazz teams were poor but really...he had an all nba first team bigman and briefly Gail Goodrich who was an all star the season before on the Lakers. A hell of a lot of superstars cant say they were on a team as one of two all nba first teamers with a #3 who is an aging star.

His teams were bad. They were niot generally Tracy Mcgrady on orlando bad.

The Hawks especially had as much as can be reasonably expected. He had Lou Hudson who wasl ike a 7 time all star and a respected player and Bellamy who was still a 19/13, 15/13, and 16/14 player at the time.

Hardly a super team...but not a team that should be called one of the worst ever. Pete had more to work with than Paul Pierce pre Big 3. Or Tmac in his prime. Or Barkley in his pre Suns prime. Hell of a lot of superstarsh ad less to work with and got more done.

There are guys outside the top 100 who took much less talent to 50 wins. Pete just wasnt into winning basketball. Ive read coaches saying he played no defense....Charley rosen who has his...issues...but sure as hell saw more of the 70s than most of us...ranked him as the worst defensive player ever. His own GM from the Hawks said they couldnt get rid of him because nobody thought he was worth his contract and he hurt good basketball. The only reason he endedu p on the Jazz was them needing him to sell tickets since he went to LSU.

Pete wasnt nearly as respected as I think people assume he was. Players had love for his style of play. People knew he was talented. But I bet few wanted to play with him.

Lot of that might be different had the Hawks and ABA/Bucks not had issue with Doctor J signing with the Hawks. I read they were the most exciting fast break of all time...in their 2 preseason games together.

Doc might have saved Petes reputation.

[WillC]

He joined a Hawks core that was a playoff team before he got there and in his first season was one of 5 recent all stars and all but one of them proved to still be capable of playing on a high level. His Jazz teams were poor but really...he had an all nba first team bigman and briefly Gail Goodrich who was an all star the season before on the Lakers. A hell of a lot of superstars cant say they were on a team as one of two all nba first teamers with a #3 who is an aging star.

His teams were bad. They were niot generally Tracy Mcgrady on orlando bad.

The Hawks especially had as much as can be reasonably expected. He had Lou Hudson who wasl ike a 7 time all star and a respected player and Bellamy who was still a 19/13, 15/13, and 16/14 player at the time.

Hardly a super team...but not a team that should be called one of the worst ever. Pete had more to work with than Paul Pierce pre Big 3. Or Tmac in his prime. Or Barkley in his pre Suns prime. Hell of a lot of superstarsh ad less to work with and got more done.

There are guys outside the top 100 who took much less talent to 50 wins. Pete just wasnt into winning basketball. Ive read coaches saying he played no defense....Charley rosen who has his...issues...but sure as hell saw more of the 70s than most of us...ranked him as the worst defensive player ever. His own GM from the Hawks said they couldnt get rid of him because nobody thought he was worth his contract and he hurt good basketball. The only reason he endedu p on the Jazz was them needing him to sell tickets since he went to LSU.

Pete wasnt nearly as respected as I think people assume he was. Players had love for his style of play. People knew he was talented. But I bet few wanted to play with him.

Lot of that might be different had the Hawks and ABA/Bucks not had issue with Doctor J signing with the Hawks. I read they were the most exciting fast break of all time...in their 2 preseason games together.

Doc might have saved Petes reputation.

Good post.

I obviously disagree on a few points, but I respect your knowledge; you're one of the few who has done their homework.

We'll discuss Maravich more in the future, I'm sure. I've not got time now for a detailed response but think you're overrating Walt Bellamy (a notorious loser). Lou Hudson is underrated, however, and I agree he was one of Pistol Pete's best teammates.

Truck Robinson is one of the least talented players ever to be named All-NBA 1st Team.

[kurple]

Allen Iverson