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Brick Rick
09-20-2012, 10:42 PM
I rank them in this order:

1) Michael Jordan
2) Dwayne Wade
3) Lebron James
4) Grant Hill


I don't know who to put for 5th. Nobody jumps out at me unless I'm missing someone obvious. Maybe McGrady, Iverson, Kobe or Vince for those few years. Even though Lebron is stronger, bigger, just as fast and just as athletic as Wade and Jordan, he lacks their finesse, creativity and artistry in attacking the rim which counts for something but he makes up for that with his brute strength, speed and freakish athleticism.

Jacks3
09-20-2012, 10:48 PM
lebron gets to the rim with greater frequency and shoots a much higher percentage than wade one he gets there. :facepalm

Young X
09-20-2012, 10:50 PM
Jordan
Wade


Everyone else

SevereUpInHere
09-20-2012, 10:52 PM
Iverson, Tony Parker maybe, not top 5 ever but pretty damn good.

dyna
09-20-2012, 10:52 PM
MJ
Drexler
Wade
Lebron
Erving
Worthy

tmacattack33
09-20-2012, 10:53 PM
Are you talking about the ability to drive frequently, or who is the best at driving when they get the opportunity to do it.

SHAQisGOAT
09-20-2012, 10:54 PM
best ones I can think of, no order

Jordan
Wade
Erving (best finisher ever in my book)
LeBron
Iverson
Drexler
David Thompson
Pip
Carter
Wilkins
Baylor
Worthy
......

Some on the list clearly better than some of the others though.

Young X
09-20-2012, 11:00 PM
lebron gets to the rim with greater frequency and shoots a much higher percentage than wade one he gets there. :facepalm

Lebron scores more frequently at the rim because he leads the league in fast-break scoring, that doesn't mean he's a better slasher than Wade.

Can Lebron do this as frequently as Wade? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MW3dD9CbaxI&hd=1

colorz
09-20-2012, 11:01 PM
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KOBE143
09-20-2012, 11:02 PM
1.MJ
2.Young Kobe(had one of the sickest crossover move of all time)
3.AI
4.DRose
5.Pippen (Very underrated in this aspect)

Jacks3
09-20-2012, 11:07 PM
Lebron scores more frequently at the rim because he leads the league in fast-break scoring, that doesn't mean he's a better slasher than Wade.

Can Lebron do this as frequently as Wade? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MW3dD9CbaxI&hd=1
lebron was getting to the rim more and shooting much higher percentages when he was in cleveland playing on some of the slowest teams in the league. operating almost exclusively in the half-court. what are you talking about?

and using YT videos as your argument. really?

EnoughSaid
09-20-2012, 11:16 PM
Wade is better at penetration than LeBron. LeBron gets there yeah, but Wade is quicker at going by defenders, crossing them up, splitting the pick and roll, etc. All things that go into "slashing"

Young X
09-20-2012, 11:22 PM
lebron was getting to the rim more and shooting much higher percentages when he was in cleveland playing on some of the slowest teams in the league. operating almost exclusively in the half-court. what are you talking about?

and using YT videos as your argument. really?
What's wrong with using YT videos? If this thread was called "top 5 dunkers in history", what would be wrong about posting VC or MJ videos? I brought up transition scoring because you brought up percentages at the rim. Lebron is a better open court player than Wade, so wouldn't that affect their "at the rim" percentages?

tmacattack33
09-20-2012, 11:24 PM
Wade is better at penetration than LeBron. LeBron gets there yeah, but Wade is quicker at going by defenders, crossing them up, splitting the pick and roll, etc. All things that go into "slashing"

Wade was definitely not faster going to the hoop. Lebron at his fastest in Cleveland was close to Derrick Rose level with straight line explosion to the hoop.

Wade is more agile and shifty though on his drives ...maybe the best ever in that regard.

EnoughSaid
09-20-2012, 11:29 PM
Wade was definitely not faster going to the hoop. Lebron at his fastest in Cleveland was close to Derrick Rose level with straight line explosion to the hoop.

Wade is more agile and shifty though on his drives ...maybe the best ever in that regard.

Whaaaaaaaaaaat? Do you not remember him during his 3rd season where he went on to win the FMVP? Dude was blowing by people, doing whatever he wanted to. In 08-09 he kind of got back to that, and I still think he has the speed in him.

tmacattack33
09-20-2012, 11:38 PM
Whaaaaaaaaaaat? Do you not remember him during his 3rd season where he went on to win the FMVP? Dude was blowing by people, doing whatever he wanted to. In 08-09 he kind of got back to that, and I still think he has the speed in him.


Wade is/was quicker changing directions and has better footwork. And he has the better handle, allowing him to cross people up and do more moves than Lebron.

But Lebron was faster exploding from point A to point B in a straight line. That's what he is/was known for and since he has somewhat lost that ability, it is why some people say he was better circa 2008-2010 than he is now.

plowking
09-20-2012, 11:44 PM
Wade was definitely not faster going to the hoop. Lebron at his fastest in Cleveland was close to Derrick Rose level with straight line explosion to the hoop.

Wade is more agile and shifty though on his drives ...maybe the best ever in that regard.

Wade most certainly was quicker at getting to the ring. Lebron might have a better top end speed, but you are seriously underrating how quick Wade is. The one thing my friend said once coming back from a Cleveland-Miami game when Lebron and Wade were on separate teams was how quick Wade was. He knew he was fast, but he couldn't believe how quickly he covered the court once he saw him live.

Brick Rick
09-20-2012, 11:45 PM
Wade is/was quicker changing directions and has better footwork. And he has the better handle, allowing him to cross people up and do more moves than Lebron.

But Lebron was faster exploding from point A to point B in a straight line. That's what he is/was known for and since he has somewhat lost that ability, it is why some people say he was better circa 2008-2010 than he is now.

good analysis.

tmacattack33
09-20-2012, 11:52 PM
Wade most certainly was quicker at getting to the ring. Lebron might have a better top end speed, but you are seriously underrating how quick Wade is. The one thing my friend said once coming back from a Cleveland-Miami game when Lebron and Wade were on separate teams was how quick Wade was. He knew he was fast, but he couldn't believe how quickly he covered the court once he saw him live.

I think we are just talking about different things.

I'm specifically just speaking of Lebron dribbling the ball out on the perimeter at point A, and then exploding in a straight line the hoop (of course with a few cross overs or hesitation dribbles before that to give Lebron the space and angle needed to explode past the defender).

RRR3
09-20-2012, 11:55 PM
IDK guys...younger LeBron was insanely fast. There were times he would just run in a straight line and still get past his defenders and to the rim. Insane:eek:

NastyCrossover1
09-21-2012, 12:05 AM
I think the best at "taking it to the hole" are Wade , Rose and AI. The rest of the players are debatable.

SpecialQue
09-21-2012, 12:19 AM
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Brick Rick
09-21-2012, 12:22 AM
pretty much

bizil
09-21-2012, 12:27 AM
best ones I can think of, no order

Jordan
Wade
Erving (best finisher ever in my book)
LeBron
Iverson
Drexler
David Thompson
Pip
Carter
Wilkins
Baylor
Worthy
......

Some on the list clearly better than some of the others though.

U got an epic list there! U listed some iconic slashers who could collapse a defense and alter it. And those guys could take it into the trees and get fouled, score two points, or get a three point play. U made special mention of the Doc and rightfully so. Had those huge ass hands to go with his freakish athletic ability. I think Doc and MJ had the best mitts of the guys u listed. U can tell even by their layups that they were unique, even amongst other epic slashers.

And Wade is ofter compared to MJ and I see that. But in terms of size and slashing, Wade needs to also be compared to David Thompson. I see a lot of similarities between Thompson and Wade scoring wise. Probably even moreso than Wade to MJ. And in terms of stopping and planting in one spot and exploding off vertical, Nique and Vince are the cream of the crop. They could get deeper in the paint and just explode in a manner that was SICK!

BuGzBuNNy
09-21-2012, 01:45 AM
That I've seen, Derrick Rose is the hardest player to stay in front of. Or used to be..

WillyJakk
09-21-2012, 01:48 AM
Cot dammit, yet another thread where my dude gets no love:

http://nbaat90s.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/sprewell.jpg

plowking
09-21-2012, 03:36 AM
I think we are just talking about different things.

I'm specifically just speaking of Lebron dribbling the ball out on the perimeter at point A, and then exploding in a straight line the hoop (of course with a few cross overs or hesitation dribbles before that to give Lebron the space and angle needed to explode past the defender).

Still Wade IMO. I think its quite clear too.

Lebron might have a slight edge in end to end speed on the court. In the half court off a few steps though, Wade.

SHAQisGOAT
09-21-2012, 10:42 AM
U got an epic list there! U listed some iconic slashers who could collapse a defense and alter it. And those guys could take it into the trees and get fouled, score two points, or get a three point play. U made special mention of the Doc and rightfully so. Had those huge ass hands to go with his freakish athletic ability. I think Doc and MJ had the best mitts of the guys u listed. U can tell even by their layups that they were unique, even amongst other epic slashers.

And Wade is ofter compared to MJ and I see that. But in terms of size and slashing, Wade needs to also be compared to David Thompson. I see a lot of similarities between Thompson and Wade scoring wise. Probably even moreso than Wade to MJ. And in terms of stopping and planting in one spot and exploding off vertical, Nique and Vince are the cream of the crop. They could get deeper in the paint and just explode in a manner that was SICK!


No doubt! Also don't forget about Drexler, going coast to coast for the basket, with ease, was his bread n butter.

arifgokcen
09-21-2012, 10:59 AM
lebron gets to the rim with greater frequency and shoots a much higher percentage than wade one he gets there. :facepalm
Thats true.As a perimeter player i dont think we have ever seen any superstar wing take so many of his shots from inside.

With that said,i wouldnt call it lebron a slasher.He is not even in my top 5 today.
Lebron generally overpowers his opponents and because of his speed not quickness he maybe the best fastbreak player we have ever seen.This is why he always tops the league in paint points as a wing

arifgokcen
09-21-2012, 11:04 AM
1.MJ
2.Young Kobe(had one of the sickest crossover move of all time)
3.AI
4.DRose
5.Pippen (Very underrated in this aspect)

My little friend if you really think kobe is #2.I mean come on even there is a limit to dckriding.I distinctly remember you saying he is scoring the way he is because of his jumper not his slashing ability.He was certainly good in his prime but come on.I can name you 5 players of the top of my head

wade,AI,MJ,drexler,rose,westbrook,Dr J. et.

Kobe is not even top 10 let alone #2

and please dont give an answer with lebron(how bad he is) because i dont think he is top 5 or even top 10 either.

pauk
09-21-2012, 11:16 AM
In terms of driving in and finishing inside in high efficiency & high volume there is no better ive seen than Michael Jordan and Lebron James.

There were guys with equal or arguably maybe even better slashing in terms of simply driving in with utmost ease (speedy gonzales PG's with insane handles like perhaps Rose/Iverson), but these guys were the most unstoppable & most productive overall slashers, the outcome of the slashers "slashes" is what is the highest priority in my book hence Jordan/James have to come first.

Thats why after them i am also thinking of guys like prime Tracy McGrady (dont you dare forget this guy), Dwyane Wade, Julius Erving, Dominique Wilkins, Grant Hill, Vince Carter, Kobe Bryant and Allen Iverson (AI i think is the best example of the likes of Rose, Westbrook, Tim Hardaway, Stephon, etc.).

brownmamba00
09-21-2012, 12:03 PM
in no order

Jordan
Kobe
LeBron
AI
Wade

KOBE143
09-21-2012, 12:30 PM
My little friend if you really think kobe is #2.I mean come on even there is a limit to dckriding.I distinctly remember you saying he is scoring the way he is because of his jumper not his slashing ability.He was certainly good in his prime but come on.I can name you 5 players of the top of my head

wade,AI,MJ,drexler,rose,westbrook,Dr J. et.

Kobe is not even top 10 let alone #2

and please dont give an answer with lebron(how bad he is) because i dont think he is top 5 or even top 10 either.
:facepalm they cant even dribble without looking down.. LOL at Kobe not even a top 10.. Name me ten player who is better than Kobe at slashing.. I dare you..

Pointguard
09-21-2012, 12:50 PM
Young Jordan was crazy.

AI made a crazy living off of it. And just kept coming and teams were ready for him and he still did it. Was fearless and wasn't protected like Jordan was.

Wade is very similar, taller but not as willing to take the hit.

Lebron, all aboard, the freight train.

Derrick Rose because too many times I seen him start at the top of the key, with the defense expecting to triple team him, and Rose get to the rim and not be touched. Ninja stuff.

ihoopallday
09-21-2012, 01:02 PM
Jordan & Wade.

CeltsGarlic
09-21-2012, 01:20 PM
In terms of driving in and finishing inside in high efficiency & high volume there is no better ive seen than Michael Jordan and Lebron James.

There were guys with equal or arguably maybe even better slashing in terms of simply driving in with utmost ease (speedy gonzales PG's with insane handles like perhaps Rose/Iverson), but these guys were the most unstoppable & most productive overall slashers, the outcome of the slashers "slashes" is what is the highest priority in my book hence Jordan/James have to come first.

Thats why after them i am also thinking of guys like prime Tracy McGrady (dont you dare forget this guy), Dwyane Wade, Julius Erving, Dominique Wilkins, Grant Hill, Vince Carter, Kobe Bryant and Allen Iverson (AI i think is the best example of the likes of Rose, Westbrook, Tim Hardaway, Stephon, etc.).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8omUM8m8KLc

tmacattack33
09-21-2012, 01:25 PM
In terms of driving in and finishing inside in high efficiency & high volume there is no better ive seen than Michael Jordan and Lebron James.

There were guys with equal or arguably maybe even better slashing in terms of simply driving in with utmost ease (speedy gonzales PG's with insane handles like perhaps Rose/Iverson), but these guys were the most unstoppable & most productive overall slashers, the outcome of the slashers "slashes" is what is the highest priority in my book hence Jordan/James have to come first.

Thats why after them i am also thinking of guys like prime Tracy McGrady (dont you dare forget this guy), Dwyane Wade, Julius Erving, Dominique Wilkins, Grant Hill, Vince Carter, Kobe Bryant and Allen Iverson (AI i think is the best example of the likes of Rose, Westbrook, Tim Hardaway, Stephon, etc.).

If this is strongly outcome based (and even if it wasn't), Penny Hardaway should get some mentions. He was very ambitextrous and crafty when he would drive and be met by the 7 footers of his day, and it'd allow him to finish at an amazing rate. Oh and of course he was 6'7 with long arms and good jumping ability.

brantonli
09-21-2012, 01:29 PM
I'm going to throw out a stupid name: Steve Nash. When you watch some of his highlight reels, it's weird how he's so much slower than other people but gets to the rim with relative ease. Not a top 5 but very underrated slasher.

Ikill
09-21-2012, 02:00 PM
why do people say Wades not fast
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkWbTL9HEgo

Brick Rick
09-21-2012, 02:08 PM
why do people say Wades not fast
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkWbTL9HEgo

Jesus, it took him just 3 dribbles to go coast to coast.

Ikill
09-21-2012, 02:18 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLF3BTijo0w

koolkid09
09-21-2012, 02:18 PM
1.MJ
2.Young Kobe(had one of the sickest crossover move of all time)
3.AI
4.DRose
5.Pippen (Very underrated in this aspect)

You disrespectful as hell.

Champ
09-21-2012, 02:34 PM
Not one mention of Tiny Archibald?

Kids :facepalm

SHAQisGOAT
09-21-2012, 02:54 PM
Not one mention of Tiny Archibald?

Kids :facepalm

Forgot about Tiny, dude had amazing handles to go along with his unreal speed/quickness, also good acrobat capable of making crazy layups.

MontaHardaway
09-21-2012, 02:58 PM
why does the op have Grant Hill at #4?:roll: :roll: what a stupid a$$hole

Jolokia
09-21-2012, 04:39 PM
Kyrie, Tony Parker, and D-Will are worth mentioning along with all the common ones already listed.

StateOfMind12
09-21-2012, 05:25 PM
Wade is better at getting to the rim than Lebron but Lebron is better at finishing. As slashers, we are simply comparing their ability to get to the rim and in that case Wade is better.

letsdothis
09-21-2012, 05:39 PM
One of the best slashers in the game?? EDDIE JONES!!!

In his prime on the Lakers, that guy could slash for days.

RRR3
09-21-2012, 05:41 PM
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LA Lakers
09-21-2012, 10:28 PM
Whoever started the list, Dude really? D Wade over Allen Iverson?!:biggums:

Brick Rick
09-21-2012, 11:12 PM
All right take it easy guy. DWade deserves to be number one or two on the list and to the other guy calling me a stupid a$$hole for having Grant Hill on my list, yeah now I regret it. I would put Rose, Westbrook, Kobe, Iverson, Vince and T-Mac over Hill.

detroitdogg
09-21-2012, 11:38 PM
Its really Wade, MJ, and everybody else. I dont know why nyggas just think Bron gets to the rack anywhere near as much as Wade in the half court, it aint close. Wade does not like to pull up off the dribble, for the last 3 seasons he has hardly EVER just simply pulled up, that boy wants to get to the basket everytime he touches the rock and he gets there and finishes on a top 3 in the history of the game level.

About Bron, he does not get there as much as Wade, period, fastbreaks would make it look compareable but thats not the case. Over the last 8 years Bron had a higher percentage at the basket by like 1.5-2, their attempts at the paint has fluctuated, but Wade has some seasons attempting more shots per game down there. Wade and MJ are just better than everybody else when it comes to the whole package(AI would have to be 3rd to me).

SacJB Shady
09-21-2012, 11:45 PM
I think Monta Ellis is up there as well.

hateraid
09-21-2012, 11:50 PM
In my lifetime:

1- Michael Jordan
2- Allen Iverson
3- Tim Hardaway
4- Lebron James
5- Julius Erving

I'm suprised Tim Hardaway wasn't mentioned. He wasn't just a crossover, guy was a ball of fury. Strong, fast, footwork, handles...
EVERY game I've watched with G-State and there was seconds left in a quarter it was always an iso, despite having Richmond (another great slasher), Sprewell (seconded), Mullin (not a slasher but a guy who can get his shot off), it always was in T-Bugs hands. There was fear in opponents eyes. this guy used to wreck Payton one on one

detroitdogg
09-22-2012, 12:14 AM
I think Monta Ellis is up there as well.
Dude has some ridiculous finishes at the basket. Monta pulls up a lot though, he is quick as hell but lacks the straight up moves to fukk with MJ, Wade, AI,??????? as far as the whole package. Monta is a great finisher fasho though.

LiLharvard
09-22-2012, 12:34 AM
Pierce?

Vertical-24
09-22-2012, 11:06 AM
1. Michael Jordan
2. Allen Iverson
3. Tim Hardaway
4. Dwyane Wade
5. LeBron James
Honorable mentions: Derrick Rose, Julius Erving, Kobe Bryant

76ers
09-22-2012, 12:03 PM
Michael Jordan (SG)
LeBron James (SF)
Kevin Durant (SF/SG)
Derrick Rose (PG)
Monta Ellis (PG/SG)

Vertical-24
09-22-2012, 01:32 PM
Michael Jordan (SG)
LeBron James (SF)
Kevin Durant (SF/SG)
Derrick Rose (PG)
Monta Ellis (PG/SG)

:facepalm

LA Lakers
09-22-2012, 02:21 PM
All I know is that if we are being real, you cant have a top 5 list of "slashers" without AI, my main man that made "slashing" his main ammo in a repetoire of offensive weapons. Thatd be like making a tribute to coolest movies of all time and not mentioning Pulp Fiction.

HardwoodLegend
09-22-2012, 02:33 PM
Slash

Did you know Amber Rose is obsessed with Slash too?

You really want to look like that guy, don't you? :lol

Alan Shore
09-22-2012, 03:36 PM
wade palms so he is off my list. rose palms so he's off my list too. iverson too. macgrady. carter.

try making a list of slashers who don't palm or carry. otherwise the list is dump.

tpols
09-22-2012, 03:37 PM
wade palms so he is off my list. rose palms so he's off my list too. iverson too. macgrady. carter.

try making a list of slashers who don't palm or carry. otherwise the list is dump.
Your post is a dump.

Most great slashers palm.