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longhornfan1234
09-21-2012, 11:12 AM
I's almost criminal that Leo has not won an oscar.

He's the most consistent actor in my era:

Basketball Diaries

Departed

Aviator

Blood Diamond

Gangs of New York

Shutter Island

Inception

Catch Me If You Can

Body of Lies

What's Eating Gilbert Grape

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:



Leo in What's Eating Gilbert Grape was the greatest acting performance of all-time.

Mr Know It All
09-21-2012, 11:18 AM
He's definitely become a pretty decent actor (though I still see him as more of a movie star than an actor). However, I compare him to someone like Brad Pitt (not good enough to win an Oscar, just always has great projects to be involved with and great directors to make them look good).

No coincidence Leo and Pitt have worked with guys like Fincher, Spielberg, Scorsese, and Nolan in the past decade.

longhornfan1234
09-21-2012, 11:24 AM
He's definitely become a pretty decent actor (though I still see him as more of a movie star than an actor). However, I compare him to someone like Brad Pitt (not good enough to win an Oscar, just always has great projects to be involved with and great directors to make them look good).

No coincidence Leo and Pitt have worked with guys like Fincher, Spielberg, Scorsese, and Nolan in the past decade.
:facepalm


This is why Leo is underrated. Brad Pitt is not on the same level as Leo.

JohnnySic
09-21-2012, 11:24 AM
He is a bankable actor but I find him unconvincing in many of his roles.

andgar923
09-21-2012, 11:27 AM
More like one of the most OVERrated actors ever.

Just because he's been associated with good projects it doesn't mean that he's a great actor. He's grown into a capable actor that can have moments, but not consistent enough to be a great actor.

So NO he's not UNDERrated, more like OVERrated in the same way Will Smith is.

andgar923
09-21-2012, 11:28 AM
:facepalm


This is why Leo is underrated. Brad Pitt is not on the same level as Leo.

Brad Pitt is easily better than Leo.

longhornfan1234
09-21-2012, 11:29 AM
He is a bankable actor but I find him unconvincing in many of his roles.


Which roles?

longhornfan1234
09-21-2012, 11:29 AM
Brad Pitt is easily better than Leo.


:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Jailblazers7
09-21-2012, 11:31 AM
Brad Pitt is easily better than Leo.

Agree.

andgar923
09-21-2012, 11:33 AM
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
You can laugh all you want, but I"m willing to bet that more will be laughing AT YOU.

macmac
09-21-2012, 11:35 AM
More like one of the most OVERrated actors ever.

Just because he's been associated with good projects it doesn't mean that he's a great actor. He's grown into a capable actor that can have moments, but not consistent enough to be a great actor.

So NO he's not UNDERrated, more like OVERrated in the same way Will Smith is.

Youre talking completely out of your ass....case in point, he's grown into a capable actor?? His most praised and natural roles were when he was a teen, Gilbert grapes, basketball diaries, titanic,etc...it's the new bad ass, serious actor persona that most people feel comes across as unnatural and forced

blablabla
09-21-2012, 11:36 AM
Leo in What's Eating Gilbert Grape was the greatest acting performance of all-time.
come on son

Whoah10115
09-21-2012, 11:44 AM
He's a great actor, but he doesn't much cross into transcendent performances. Gangs of New York is a perfect example. He's great in it, is the lead, but leaves it open for Daniel Day-Lewis, and leaves it open for the director...if that makes sense. Oddly enough, it's something De Niro did a lot of. Tho he doesn't have De Niro's natural De Nironess (but how many are one of the 10 greatest actors of all-time? Even with some of the garbage he's done the last 15years).



His performance in The Departed is incredible tho. His intensity is awesome. Like in most of his work, he plays a bit below the surface, and doesn't overwhelm. But he's so good in it.



Catch Me If You Can is already different. He's at the forefront. He's slight, but he's also a kid and he stands out there. He's great in that, as well. Titanic, if we're going back that far...he's great whenever Kate Winslet is not onscreen. But their chemistry is lacking romantically...easy when the dialogue is what it is. Film could have been great, had it been written.

Heilige
09-21-2012, 11:45 AM
I's almost criminal that Leo has not won an oscar.

He's the most consistent actor in my era:

Basketball Diaries

Departed

Aviator

Blood Diamond

Gangs of New York

Shutter Island

Inception

Catch Me If You Can

Body of Lies

What's Eating Gilbert Grape

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:



Leo in What's Eating Gilbert Grape was the greatest acting performance of all-time.


Daniel Day Lewis

There Will Be Blood

/thread

andgar923
09-21-2012, 11:49 AM
Youre talking completely out of your ass....case in point, he's grown into a capable actor?? His most praised and natural roles were when he was a teen, Gilbert grapes, basketball diaries, titanic,etc...it's the new bad ass, serious actor persona that most people feel comes across as unnatural and forced

Titanic?

He had a great role in Gilbert Grapes, that was basically it. BBall Diaries

dunksby
09-21-2012, 11:54 AM
Youre talking completely out of your ass....case in point, he's grown into a capable actor?? His most praised and natural roles were when he was a teen, Gilbert grapes, basketball diaries, titanic,etc...it's the new bad ass, serious actor persona that most people feel comes across as unnatural and forced
http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/cowboy-shaking-head-no.gif

macmac
09-21-2012, 12:02 PM
[QUOTE=andgar923]Titanic?

He had a great role in Gilbert Grapes, that was basically it. BBall Diaries

dunksby
09-21-2012, 12:10 PM
Never mind titanic, Gilbert grapes and diaries are two of his best roles, so you saying he grew into a capable actor but is still overrated makes no sense...

And not every actor necessarily gets better with age, my favorite Natalie portman role was in the Professional....guys like Deniro and Pacino had their best showings in their early years, etc....Deer Hunter, taxi Driver....I mean nothing came close to that
Most Hollywood stars get worse with age, they gradually lose interest in challenging roles after epic performances like the ones you mentioned while Leo's situation is reverse. Scorsese saved his career in my opinion as it is mostly the case in the industry. Brilliant directors can get the performance they want from almost anybody that is why I believe all actors are to a great extend overrated.

macmac
09-21-2012, 12:16 PM
Most Hollywood stars get worse with age, they gradually lose interest in challenging roles after epic performances like the ones you mentioned while Leo's situation is reverse. Scorsese saved his career in my opinion as it is mostly the case in the industry. Brilliant directors can get the performance they want from almost anybody that is why I believe all actors are to a great extend overrated.

I cringe when I see Leo try to pull that accent in blood diamond, or act like a tough guy in the Departed, or squinty eyes in Inception...just don't buy it....plus he gets completely overshadowed by day lewis, Nicholson, Hounsou...

Great movies though, he really knows how to pick his parts and he's easy on the eyes and is a big box office draw so directors have no problem using him

dunksby
09-21-2012, 12:26 PM
I cringe when I see Leo try to pull that accent in blood diamond, or act like a tough guy in the Departed, or squinty eyes in Inception...just don't buy it....plus he gets completely overshadowed by day lewis, Nicholson, Hounsou...

Great movies though, he really knows how to pick his parts and he's easy on the eyes and is a big box office draw so directors have no problem using him
Leo is nowhere near the class of those guys but the first time I saw Gangs of New York I told myself that if Di Caprio has an ounce of intellect he will not let go of Scorsese. I think he can pull off roles like the con man in catch me if you can or the low life kid in Gangs.

Patrick Chewing
09-21-2012, 12:26 PM
I think someone said it before, but Leo is not convincing in most of his roles. He does however have stand out in Catch Me If You Can which I think is his best role to date.

LamarOdom
09-21-2012, 12:54 PM
One of my favorite actors and Blood Diamond and Departed is two of my favorite movies.

Reason for getting underrated is because he had that boyish look and did Titanic and Romeo & Juliet, but his latest movies has all been gold(gotta applaud Scorsese for this too).

It's funny how Scorsese locks in on a actor and uses him in every move, Scorsese did the same too Robert De Niro. Any other example of a director/actor bromance?

DuMa
09-21-2012, 01:23 PM
i thought his best role was the Aviator. He nailed that role. but i don't think you can say he is underrated unless you're the academy. He always gets his due in the media. He always gets his projects that he wants. That said, he usually makes movies i find really entertaining or thought provoking. I like his selection of projects.

He's still a very young actor. Theres gonna be lots of more great roles from him.

Whoah10115
09-21-2012, 01:28 PM
It's funny how Scorsese locks in on a actor and uses him in every move, Scorsese did the same too Robert De Niro. Any other example of a director/actor bromance?



Federico Fellini and Marcelo Mastroianni.

alenleomessi
09-21-2012, 01:59 PM
i think the thread so far just proves OP's point

B-Low
09-21-2012, 02:31 PM
Leo IMO is the Scottie Pippen of acting. He can do a little bit of everything and he's been a part of some BIG big things. Been directed/led by some of the greatest ever to bark orders. Sometimes has to live in the shadows of the bigger names, but still does a good enough job as the leading man. Underrated by a lot of people, but overrated by just as many. People just need to stop ranking him with the best, but at the same time admit that he's really, really good. In the end, just enjoy watching him do what he does.

BMOGEFan
09-21-2012, 03:41 PM
Brad Pitt is easily better than Leo.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Riddler
09-21-2012, 04:34 PM
The only question is this:


http://www.awardscircuit.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/leo-riddler.jpg

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt216/Doomsday2036/Leonardo-Dicaprio-Riddler111.jpg

would it have worked?



looking forward to seeing what Tarantino does with this MFer.

Riddler
09-21-2012, 04:45 PM
Daniel Day Lewis

There Will Be Blood

/thread




Now that dude might be the most overrated actor of all-time.


He "over acts".... if that makes sense.

Heavincent
09-21-2012, 05:23 PM
Shutter Island is one of the best movies I have ever seen. But I would agree with the people saying that he is often associated with good projects and directors, which also says a lot about how respected he is in the industry.

Still, Christian Bale is hands down the best actor of the last 10-15 years. Could DiCaprio pull off Patrick Bateman or Batman as well as Bale? I'd have to say no. But I bet Bale could easily pull off Teddy Daniels or Cobb.

Myth
09-21-2012, 06:21 PM
It's funny how Scorsese locks in on a actor and uses him in every move, Scorsese did the same too Robert De Niro. Any other example of a director/actor bromance?

Tim Burton and .......


I don't even need to say it. You know who I'm thinking of.

ihoopallday
09-21-2012, 08:22 PM
I hate Leo because the "Inception" ending still ****s with my head. :lol

jamal99
09-21-2012, 09:45 PM
It's funny how Scorsese locks in on a actor and uses him in every move, Scorsese did the same too Robert De Niro. Any other example of a director/actor bromance?
I think Johnny Depp did a lot of Tim Burton's movies.

EDIT - Myth beat me to it...

bagelred
09-21-2012, 10:04 PM
No coincidence Leo and Pitt have worked with guys like Fincher, Spielberg, Scorsese, and Nolan in the past decade.

And now, Leo and Pitt will have Tarantino in common too.

c3z4r
09-21-2012, 10:39 PM
I know I'm in the minority here, but every time I see one of his recent-ish movies, I feel as if he's PLAYING THE SAME ****ING ROLE. Seriously, he has the same personality and his character quirks and traits seem identical.

Not, I'm not saying his movies aren't great, I loved Inception, Shutter Island, The Departed or Catch me if you can, but I feel that in all these movies his character portrayal is very very similar.

Loneshot
09-21-2012, 11:04 PM
Big fan of Leo, but i'd say he's actually overrated. His last string of movies...feels like he was just going through the motions. While Inception was boring and generic, it could have been better if maybe a better actor than Leo was at the lead.

LBJMVP
09-21-2012, 11:05 PM
Tim Burton and .......


I don't even need to say it. You know who I'm thinking of.


honestly though, johnny depp is my favorite actor. i dont enjoy tim burton films with depp as much as i do others, but johnny depp knows how to play a roll. and i love it!

LBJMVP
09-21-2012, 11:05 PM
Big fan of Leo, but i'd say he's actually overrated. His last string of movies...feels like he was just going through the motions. While Inception was boring and generic, it could have been better if maybe a better actor than Leo was at the lead.

i wouldnt go that far.

i enjoyed inception alot.

Loneshot
09-21-2012, 11:05 PM
:facepalm


This is why Leo is underrated. Brad Pitt is not on the same level as Leo.

Whoa, who's your dealer? Brad Pitt is a far superior actor than Leo will ever be. And i say this as a big fan of Leo.

Legends66NBA7
09-21-2012, 11:06 PM
Nah, I'd say he's been recognized over time as one of the best.

My vote goes for:

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/9241/648628-kyle_reese.png

Loneshot
09-21-2012, 11:07 PM
i wouldnt go that far.

i enjoyed inception alot.

Many people did, but the plot is as generic as they come. People complain about that one actress ruining DKR, well they should be complaining that she (along with the script in general) ruined what seemed like an awesome idea for a movie.

Nanners
09-22-2012, 01:00 AM
i have high hopes for leo in the upcoming movie django unchained, its gonna be interesting to see him play the villain for once

http://i.qkme.me/3qvmme.jpg

Patrick Chewing
09-22-2012, 01:09 AM
[QUOTE=While Inception was boring and generic, it could have been better if maybe a better actor than Leo was at the lead.[/QUOTE]


Liked that movie a lot, but I think had Nolan gone with Bale again, the movie would have been ten times better. I couldn't buy Leo's relationship with Mal.

dyna
09-22-2012, 04:52 PM
Leo vs Pitt vs Cruise??

:confusedshrug:

ZeN
09-22-2012, 04:58 PM
i have high hopes for leo in the upcoming movie django unchained, its gonna be interesting to see him play the villain for once

http://i.qkme.me/3qvmme.jpg
:oldlol:

ZeN
09-22-2012, 05:01 PM
Now that dude might be the most overrated actor of all-time.


He "over acts".... if that makes sense.


:facepalm

PleezeBelieve
09-22-2012, 05:38 PM
Thread topic proven.

That is all.

Lebron23
09-23-2012, 01:22 AM
Jeffrey Wright

Lakers Legend#32
09-23-2012, 05:06 AM
Name a Leo movie anyone actually likes not named Titanic or Inception.

LEFT4DEAD
09-23-2012, 05:28 AM
Brad Pitt is easily better than Leo.
Yes he is. No comparation for me too between the two.

irondarts
09-23-2012, 05:56 AM
It's funny how Scorsese locks in on a actor and uses him in every move, Scorsese did the same too Robert De Niro. Any other example of a director/actor bromance?
Coen Brothers and Clooney worked together a lot.

Phillip Seymour Hoffman has been in every Paul Thomas Anderson movie except There Will Be Blood and Hard Eight.

AK47DR91
09-23-2012, 08:05 AM
Name a Leo movie anyone actually likes not named Titanic or Inception.
Basketball Diaries(easily his best film)
Gilbert Grape (easily his best performance)

I agree with macmac, Leo was at his best in the 90's.

InspiredLebowski
09-23-2012, 08:19 AM
If anything he's gotten worse as time goes on. The guy's almost 40 and been a major star the majority of his career and his best roles are still the ones that made him, Gilbert Grape and This Boy's Life.

I'm hopeful for Django Unchained. Get out of the by the numbers period drama box he's mostly been in lately.

FatComputerNerd
09-23-2012, 09:26 AM
Everyone is naming actors that are widely recognized as talented, and are therefore NOT underrated.

An underrated actor would be someone like Mark Wahlberg, who people still make fun of and call Marky Mark, while he is actually a very talented actor.

DCL
09-23-2012, 10:27 AM
I's almost criminal that Leo has not won an oscar.

He's the most consistent actor in my era:

Basketball Diaries

Departed

Aviator

Blood Diamond

Gangs of New York

Shutter Island

Inception

Catch Me If You Can

Body of Lies

What's Eating Gilbert Grape



some of these movies had awesome scripts and directing. other actors would had ran away with the oscar if they were in them.

i don't think he's an underrated actor. i actually think he's been one of the luckiest actors to land these scripts. for most films, the movie itself carried him, not the other way around.

RaininTwos
09-23-2012, 10:30 AM
People leave me in the dark when it comes to acting discussions. What are other actors doing that Dicaprio is not? Why is DDL/Pitt/etc. better?

*Dondadda beacon illuminates the sky*

RaininTwos
09-23-2012, 10:30 AM
some of these movies had awesome scripts and directing. other actors would had ran away with the oscar if they were in them.

i don't think he's an underrated actor. i actually think he's been one of the luckiest actors to land these scripts. for most films, the movie itself carried him, not the other way around.
Luck my ass, dude picks his roles well.

DCL
09-24-2012, 12:57 PM
Luck my ass, dude picks his roles well.

sure, roles that are practically given to him on a silver platter but not to better but less well-known actors.

DuMa
09-24-2012, 01:10 PM
The Beach was a great movie. thats one movie that gets underrated.

andgar923
09-24-2012, 01:11 PM
People leave me in the dark when it comes to acting discussions. What are other actors doing that Dicaprio is not? Why is DDL/Pitt/etc. better?

*Dondadda beacon illuminates the sky*

Being the character?

It's called "suspension of disbelief" the moment in which you the audience, forget that you're watching said actor and instead watching that character.

I think what truly horts Leo is his inability to fully encompass and become a character, he is still Leo for the most part. Part of it is due to his young recognizable face but even then, I have yet to see him do anything that will make me forget that I'm watching Leo.

A great example of suspension of disbelief is this:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-PEqFodBou58/UFtcPU-rmtI/AAAAAAAAEhc/DuwTR2mDroM/s1600/cccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc ccccccccccccccccccccccccc.jpg

THIS IS GREAT ACTING

He leaves one iconic character and becomes a legendary one. Even within the show we see the difference in characters. We get to see him go from a lowly happy go lucky father, to a manipulating badass. And we never question it, we never for a second see hints of 'Hal' in the screen even if he acts goofy.

Maybe in time you'll learn to see the difference.

macmac
09-24-2012, 01:21 PM
People leave me in the dark when it comes to acting discussions. What are other actors doing that Dicaprio is not? Why is DDL/Pitt/etc. better?

*Dondadda beacon illuminates the sky*


People don't leave you in the dark. It's just that we don't realize you're there.

http://www.divawhispers.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/head-silhouette-with-question-mark.png

HardwoodLegend
09-24-2012, 02:00 PM
Jeffrey Wright

This.

Sam Rockwell too.

ZeN
09-24-2012, 02:33 PM
This.

Sam Rockwell too.
He was great in Snow Angels.. More people should watch that film..

DonDadda59
09-24-2012, 03:03 PM
I think Leo is very talented but he sort of fell into the movie star trap (the pit is cushioned by millions of dollars :oldlol: ) where he stopped taking on challenging roles and settled for easy blockbusters where he basically plays the same character every time out. I call the character intense squinty guy.

Early on in his career he took on roles like Gilbert Grape (he was nominated for an oscar at like 18 years old if I'm not mistaken) and Basketball Diaries. Then Titanic hit and he became a megastar and with a few deviations, he pretty much stopped looking for challenges and went with the easy money. Can't hate on that, but it is what it is.

And if we're talking about underrated actors, this guy wins:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jzf-PljDv1A

Andgar brought up Bryan Cranston who is fantastic, but if we're talking about range/versatility no one touches Oldman, possibly ever. He can play over the top maniacs (Drexel, Stansfield), Historical characters (Sid Vicious, Beethoven), understated/cerebral (Comissioner Gordon, Tinker Tailor), and even monsters (Dracula) while disappearing into them and being completely convincing in every role.

I bet you most people would have no clue it was Oldman in many of the roles he's had if they didn't see the credits.

MiamiThrice
09-24-2012, 03:20 PM
I watched that J Edgar Hoover movie he starred in for 15 minutes last night before turning it off. It was ****ing terrible.