Guess ESPN's Top 20 Player Ranking

[bagelred]

ESPN asked 104 of their sports peoples to rank all 500 nba players from 1 to 10. And the results were put into rankings. They've showed us the whole list, and are now down to the Top 20.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8406295/2012-nba-player-rankings-21-25

So rank how you think it will shake out. They'll start revealing Top 20 on Monday.

Here are the Top 20 players left:

Andrew Bynum
Blake Griffin
Carmelo Anthony
Chris Bosh
Chris Paul
Deron Williams
Derrick Rose
Dirk Nowitski
Dwight Howard
Dwyane Wade
Kevin Durant
Kevin Love
Kobe Bryant
LaMarcus Aldridge
Lebron James
Pau Gasol
Rajon Rondo
Russell Westbrook
Steve Nash
Tony Parker




RANK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[wally_world]

20 - LaMarcus Aldridge
19 - Chris Bosh
18 - Pau Gasol
17 - Andrew Bynum
16 - Tony Parker
15 - Dirk Nowitzki
14 - Steve Nash
13 - Deron Williams
12 - Blake Griffin
11 - Carmelo Anthony
10 - Rajon Rondo
9 - Kevin Love
8 - Derrick Rose
7 - Dwyane Wade
6 - Russell Westbrook
5 - Chris Paul
4 - Kobe Bryant
3 - Dwight Howard
2 - Kevin Durant
1 - LeBron James

Lakers with 4 guys in the top 20 :pimp:

[wally_world]

Anyway to view the full list in 1 page? Im too lazy to click on link after link

Not a great list tho, i noticed Chandler at 23 which is wayyyy too high, but the top 20 is okay i guess

[Glo41]

1. Lebron James
2. Kevin Durant
3. Dwight Howard
4. Kobe Bryant
5. Derrick Rose
6. Chris Paul
7. Dwyane Wade
8. Russell Westbrook
9. Dirk Nowitzki
10. Kevin Love
11. Deron Williams
12. Carmelo Anthony
13. Rajon Rondo
14. LeMarcus Aldridge
15. Steve Nash
16. Blake Griffin
17. Chris Bosh
18. Tony Parker
19. Andrew Bynum
20. Pau Gasol

[alenleomessi]

im not even an anthony davis fan but he should be way higher than 62

[bagelred]

im not even an anthony davis fan but he should be way higher than 62

Based on?

[arifgokcen]

Based on?
Not even playing a single minute in NBA
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[TonyD]

01. Lebron James
02. Kevin Durant
03. Chris Paul
04. Dwight Howard
05. Rajon Rondo
06. Russel Westbrook
07. Dwyane Wade
08. Derrick Rose
09. Kobe Byrant
10. Dirk Nowitzki

[Peteballa]

20. Aldridge
19. Nash
18. Bosh
17. Bynum
16. Parker
15. Gasol
14. Williams
13. Anthony
12. Griffin
11. Rondo
10. Nowitzki
9. Love
8. Rose
7. Westbrook
6. Wade
5. Bryant
4. Paul
3. Howard
2. Durant
1. James

ACTUAL RANKINGS

20. Aldridge
19. Nash
18. Bosh
17. Anthony
16. Parker

[All Net]

nice

4 Lakers in the top 20.

[BuGzBuNNy]

I'll guess this:

Lebron James
Kevin Durant
Kobe Bryant
Dwight Howard
Chris Paul
Dwyane Wade
Carmelo Anthony
Russell Westbrook
Rajon Rondo
Deron Williams
Andrew Bynum
Kevin Love
Tony Parker
Blake Griffin
Derrick Rose
Dirk Nowitski
Chris Bosh
Pau Gasol
Steve Nash
LaMarcus Aldridge

[Bigsmoke]

Amare dropped 30 spots :eek:

[chips93]

Lebron James
Kevin Durant
Chris Paul
Dwyane Wade
Dwight Howard
Kobe Bryant
Kevin Love
Russell Westbrook
Derrick Rose
Deron Williams
Rajon Rondo
Carmelo Anthony
Dirk Nowitski
Andrew Bynum
Chris Bosh
Pau Gasol
Steve Nash
Tony Parker
Blake Griffin
LaMarcus Aldridge

[colorz]

1)Lebron James
2)Kevin Durant
3)Chris Paul
4)Dwight Howard
5)Kobe Bryant
6)Kevin Love
7)Dwyane Wade
8)Russell Westbrook
9)Derrick Rose
10)Carmelo Anthony
11)Rajon Rondo
12)Deron Williams
13)Tony Parker
14)Steve Nash
15)Dirk Nowitzki
16)Blake Griffin
17)Chris Bosh
18)Pau Gasol
19)Andrew Bynum
20)Lamarcus Aldridge

[Sakkreth]

20. Griffin.

[IGOTGAME]

Blake Griffin shouldn't be in the top 30.

Rondo has to be top 10

Lebron
Dwight Howard
Durant

Rondo
Wade
CP3
Westbrook
Kobe
Dirk
Chris Bosh

[Al Thornton]

ryan anderson is a top 50 player what the fck

[tmacattack33]

ESPN asked 104 of their sports peoples to rank all 500 nba players from 1 to 10. And the results were put into rankings. They've showed us the whole list, and are now down to the Top 20.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8406295/2012-nba-player-rankings-21-25

So rank how you think it will shake out. They'll start revealing Top 20 on Monday.

Here are the Top 20 players left:

Andrew Bynum
Blake Griffin
Carmelo Anthony
Chris Bosh
Chris Paul
Deron Williams
Derrick Rose
Dirk Nowitski
Dwight Howard
Dwyane Wade
Kevin Durant
Kevin Love
Kobe Bryant
LaMarcus Aldridge
Lebron James
Pau Gasol
Rajon Rondo
Russell Westbrook
Steve Nash
Tony Parker




RANK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well first of all theirs will be different than ours, because apparently some of you voted on how you think the players will play next year and ESPN is just voting on how the players looked like last year (and probably more so towards the end of last year).



So yeah...

1. Lebron
2. Durant
3. C. Paul
4. Dwight
5. Kobe
6. D. Rose
7. Wade
8. D. Williams
9. Westbrook
10. Dirk
11. Carmelo
12. Bynum
13. Rondo
14. Parker
15. Blake Griffin (overhype of big name player)
16. K. Love
17. Bosh
18. Gasol
19. Nash
20. L. Aldridge

[noosaman]

Well first of all theirs will be different than ours, because apparently some of you voted on how you think the players will play next year and ESPN is just voting on how the players looked like last year (and probably more so towards the end of last year).



So yeah...

1. Lebron
2. Durant
3. C. Paul
4. Dwight
5. Kobe
6. D. Rose
7. Wade
8. D. Williams
9. Westbrook
10. Dirk
11. Carmelo
12. Bynum
13. Rondo
14. Parker
15. Blake Griffin (overhype of big name player)
16. K. Love
17. Bosh
18. Gasol
19. Nash
20. L. Aldridge


LOL even in down season there aren't 10 better players than Dirk. You cannot honestly tell me you'd rather have rondo, westbrook, deron, rose, or paul to build a team around to win a ring next year than Dirk.

[RaininTwos]

Rondo should be top 5. So should Westbrook

[TheMarkMadsen]

LOL even in down season there aren't 10 better players than Dirk. You cannot honestly tell me you'd rather have rondo, westbrook, deron, rose, or paul to build a team around to win a ring next year than Dirk.


If Rose was healthy I wouldn't even think twice before picking him to build a team around that could win a championship next year.

Rondo would get a lot of consideration aswell.

[WockaVodka]

Rondo should be top 5. So should Westbrook
:wtf:

[keepinitreal]

Lakers have 4 players top 20. Heat have 3 players top 20. Knicks have 3 players in the top 25. Which other teams have 3 or more in the top 25?

Which teams don't have a single player in the top 25? :coleman:

[Al Thornton]

Rondo should be top 5. So should Westbrook

westbrook yea for sure, rondo should be 8-12.

[MiamiThrice]

Legit Franchise Players
1. LeBron James
2. Kevin Durant
3. Dwight Howard
4. Dirk Nowitzki
5. Dwyane Wade
6. Andrew Bynum(as long as he's healthy
7. Chris Paul
8. Russell Westbrook

Solid supporting stars
9. Derrick Rose(this could vary greatly depending on how his injury effects him
10. Lamarcus Aldridge
11. Deron Williams
12. Kevin Love
13. Rajon Rondo
14. Pau Gasol
15. Blake Griffin
16. Steve Nash
17. Carmelo Anthony
18. Kobe Bryant
19. Chris Bosh
20. Tony Parker

[SyRyanYang]

my boy mr bean bryant shouldnt be top 5

[talkingconch]

LMAO blake griffin?? top 20??


Legit Franchise Players
1. LeBron James
2. Kevin Durant
3. Dwight Howard
4. Dirk Nowitzki
5. Dwyane Wade
6. Andrew Bynum(as long as he's healthy
7. Chris Paul
8. Russell Westbrook

Solid supporting stars
9. Derrick Rose(this could vary greatly depending on how his injury effects him
10. Lamarcus Aldridge
11. Deron Williams
12. Kevin Love
13. Rajon Rondo
14. Pau Gasol
15. Blake Griffin
16. Steve Nash
17. Carmelo Anthony
18. Kobe Bryant
19. Chris Bosh
20. Tony Parker

Retard alert

[KG215]

Lakers have 4 players top 20. Heat have 3 players top 20. Knicks have 3 players in the top 25. Which other teams have 3 or more in the top 25?

Which teams don't have a single player in the top 25? :coleman:

Well, Harden is #26 and, since Durant will probably be #2 and Westbrook will be top 10, that averages out better than the Knicks three top 25 players.

[IGOTGAME]

Rondo should be top 5. So should Westbrook
Rondo is definitely top 5. Guy just plays winning ball. Best point guard in the league.

[TheeBeast]

1.Lebron James
2.Kevin Durant
3.Kobe Bryant
4.Dwight Howard
5.Chris Paul
6.Dwyane Wade
7.Deron Williams
8.Kevin Love
9.Tony Parker
10. Andrew Bynum
11.Russell Westbrook
12.Dirk Nowitski
13.Carmelo Anthony
14.Blake Griffin
15.Chris Bosh
16.Steve Nash
17.Rajon Rondo
18.Pau Gasol
19.LaMarcus Aldridge
20.Derrick Rose (Top 7 if not injured)

[chazzy]

Rondo is definitely top 5. Guy just plays winning ball. Best point guard in the league.
I feel that his inability to shoot or create for himself consistently is a big hole in his game and affects the way teams can defend Boston. It's a little suspect that they had the 3rd worst offense last season with him running the show.

[liquidrage]

1.Lebron James
2.Kevin Durant
3.Kobe Bryant
4.Dwight Howard
5.Chris Paul
6.Dwyane Wade
7.Deron Williams
8.Kevin Love
9.Tony Parker
10. Andrew Bynum
11.Blake Griffin
12.Russell Westbrook
13.Dirk Nowitski
14.Steve Nash
15.Carmelo Anthony
16.Chris Bosh
17.Rajon Rondo
18.Pau Gasol
19.LaMarcus Aldridge
20.Derrick Rose (Top 7 if not injured)

Your love affair with the entire city of LA must be the stuff of legend.

[IGOTGAME]

I feel that his inability to shoot or create for himself consistently is a big hole in his game and affects the way teams can defend Boston. It's a little suspect that they had the 3rd worst offense last season with him running the show.
I think he can create consistently for himself. However, I feel the fact that he has created a play style where he almost never does makes him better. Because he always has another bullet to pull out. And over the last few years we have seen that he can consistently pull it out.

Personally, I don't think the last two Celtic teams were very good. IMO the only reason they had a chance was because Rondo turned into a truly elite player. Guy is a master at getting the best out of his teammates. And he isnt just some pick and roll spammers racking assists, the guy is a top 2 facilatator of offense in the league. I have him over CP3 bchehe is under achieving too much and still doesn't always understand the balance between pass and shoot. Also, he hasn't been able to mesh the talent on the Clippers. Rondo is able to make others players the focal point while still dominating. CP3 has to always be the focal point no matter what.

[TheeBeast]

Your love affair with the entire city of LA must be the stuff of legend.

I hate the Clippers but CP3 is the best PG in the league, imo.

[MeLO MvP 15]

20. Pau
19. Bosh
18. Parker
17. Aldridge
16. Dirk
15. Nash
14. Bynum
13. Griffin
12. Deron
11. Rondo
10. Rose
9. Love
8. Wade
7. Westbrook
6. Melo
5. Kobe
4. CP3
3. Dwight Howard
2. Kevin Durant
1. LeBron James

**Rose and Dwight are really tricky because it's impossible to know when they'll come back and at what strength.

[tmacattack33]

Lakers have 4 players top 20. Heat have 3 players top 20. Knicks have 3 players in the top 25. Which other teams have 3 or more in the top 25?

Which teams don't have a single player in the top 25? :coleman:


Idk if you're talking about your own personal list of best players or what, but if you're talking about ESPN's list then no, NY only has two players in the top 25, Amare was ranked like 35 on ESPN's list.

[liquidrage]

I hate the Clippers but CP3 is the best PG in the league, imo.

Griffin is way too high and Bynum is way too high (even though he's not in LA anymore I guess you still love him).

They are stupidly too high.

[TheeBeast]

Griffin is way too high and Bynum is way too high (even though he's not in LA anymore I guess you still love him).

They are stupidly too high.

Bynum is one of the most dominant players in the league. I changed Blake to #14

[Umad101]

I chop my left nut if Kobe isn't in top 5

[FreezingTsmoove]

Blake top 20 ? :wtf:

[Al Thornton]

Blake top 20 ? :wtf:

he was ranked 10 last year, why the fck are you surprised?

[FreezingTsmoove]

he was ranked 10 last year, why the fck are you surprised?

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Blake is not better than current KG. Top 25 for sure tho is that ok with you?

[lilgodfather1]

I'm almost positive that Kobe will be top 5 based on reputation alone.

[FreezingTsmoove]

he was ranked 10 last year, why the fck are you surprised?


And to add to dat he aint better than J Smoove either.

you ****ing ****** bitch *****

[Al Thornton]

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Blake is not better than current KG. Top 25 for sure tho is that ok with you?

lol lol lol

my opinion doesn't matter in this you dumb fck, we're trying to guess espns ranking, and blake will obviously be top 15

[FreezingTsmoove]

lol lol lol

my opinion doesn't matter in this you dumb fck, we're trying to guess espns ranking, and blake will obviously be top 15


im a dumb fck but you asked me a question about why I was suprised and I answered giving you my reason and you call me a dumb fck again for answering

:lol :lol :lol :lol

your a retard seriously. Learn to post a quality thread or comment wont ya :confusedshrug: :cheers:

that being said call me when BG learns to play defense, hit a free throw, hit a jump shot, hit a clutch shot, not flop like a ******, set a proper screen, play a 4th quarter, ........:sleeping

[Al Thornton]

read and understand thread concepts before u post or stop posting

[FreezingTsmoove]

lol lol lol

my opinion doesn't matter in this you dumb fck, we're trying to guess espns ranking, and blake will obviously be top 15


Student A1: Wow I sure am suprised were having a test today

Al Thorton: THE **** U SUPRISED *****?

Student A1: Idk I guess it was short notice

Al Thorton: U A DUMB ***** YOUR OPINION DONT MATTER WE HAVIN A TEST EITHER WAY

Student A1: Then why did you respond or ask me a question in the first place

[FreezingTsmoove]

read and understand thread concepts before u post or stop posting

I simply said woah blake is top 20 I cant agree with that. YOU ****ING RETARD THIS IS ISH WHAT THREAD CONCEPT DO PPL ACTAULLY FOLLOW. IM LEAVING AN OPINION/COMMENT TO A THREAD :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Hittin_Shots]

I simply said woah blake is top 20 I cant agree with that. YOU ****ING RETARD THIS IS ISH WHAT THREAD CONCEPT DO PPL ACTAULLY FOLLOW. IM LEAVING AN OPINION/COMMENT TO A THREAD :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

You're both being wankers, al Thornton getting fired up, but you are acting like he's the one ranking the players whereas the thread is to guess espn's ranks. So stfu.

[All Net]

Lebron
Durant
Dwight

I expect should be the top 3...anything else wouldn't be right IMO.

[Pursuer]

1)Lebron James
2)Kevin Durant
3)Dwight Howard
4)Chris Paul
5)Kobe Bryant
6)Russell Westbrook
7)Dwyane Wade
8)Carmelo Anthony
9)Derrick Rose
10)Kevin Love
11)Rajon Rondo
12)Deron Williams
13)Tony Parker
14)Steve Nash
15)Dirk Nowitzki
16)Andrew Bynum
17)Chris Bosh
18)Pau Gasol
19)Blake Griffin
20)Lamarcus Aldridge

[Mach_3]

Legit Franchise Players
1. LeBron James
2. Kevin Durant
3. Dwight Howard
4. Dirk Nowitzki
5. Dwyane Wade
6. Andrew Bynum(as long as he's healthy
7. Chris Paul
8. Russell Westbrook

Solid supporting stars
9. Derrick Rose(this could vary greatly depending on how his injury effects him
10. Lamarcus Aldridge
11. Deron Williams
12. Kevin Love
13. Rajon Rondo
14. Pau Gasol
15. Blake Griffin
16. Steve Nash
17. Carmelo Anthony
18. Kobe Bryant
19. Chris Bosh
20. Tony Parker


:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[TimmyDuncan]

1)Lebron James
2)Kevin Durant
3)Dwight Howard
4)Chris Paul
5)Dwyane Wade
6)Derrick Rose
7)Kobe Bryant
8)Dirk Nowitzki
9)Carmelo Anthony
10)Rajon Rondo
11)Deron Williams
12)Tony Parker
13)Russell Westbrook
14)Steve Nash
15)Kevin Love
16)Andrew Bynum
17)Blake Griffin
18)Pau Gasol
19)Chris Bosh
20)Lamarcus Aldridge

[FreezingTsmoove]

You're both being wankers, al Thornton getting fired up, but you are acting like he's the one ranking the players whereas the thread is to guess espn's ranks. So stfu.


I said woah cant believe Blake is so high as an opinion of the ESPN top 20 player rankings. What is so hard to comprehend dumbass?

[CTulc]

1)Lebron James
2)Kevin Durant
3)Dwight Howard
4)Chris Paul
5)Kobe Bryant
6)Dwyane Wade
7)Rajon Rondo
8) Derrick Rose
9)Russell Westbrook
10)Kevin Love
11)Deron Williams
12)Carmelo Anthony
13)Tony Parker
14)Andrew Bynum
15)Dirk Nowitski
16)Blake Griffin
17)Chris Bosh
18)Steve Nash
19)Lamarcus Aldridge
20)Pau Gasol

[LakersReign]

Legit Franchise Players
1. LeBron James
2. Kevin Durant
3. Dwight Howard
4. Dirk Nowitzki
5. Dwyane Wade
6. Andrew Bynum(as long as he's healthy
7. Chris Paul
8. Russell Westbrook

Solid supporting stars
9. Derrick Rose(this could vary greatly depending on how his injury effects him
10. Lamarcus Aldridge
11. Deron Williams
12. Kevin Love
13. Rajon Rondo
14. Pau Gasol
15. Blake Griffin
16. Steve Nash
17. Carmelo Anthony
18. Kobe Bryant
19. Chris Bosh
20. Tony Parker

Yeah....that's right. Cuz he was supposedly ready to be the Lakers number 1 offensive option, instead of Kobe...right....32dayz/bwink23/godzuki/miamithrice?:roll:
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=257847&page=4


its unbelievable to me how often so many Laker/Kobe fans, can't tell which, put down their players to hype/justify Kobe. Bynum has only been one of the more dominant players in the NBA this year when he's been healthy and emphasized...

you guys have always been so ignorant is bliss regarding the talent you have, especially the size mismatches which every other team/fan knows that you're biggest advantage, but you want Kobe taking 25~ shots a game from the perimeter, and say everyone else sux :rolleyes:

one bad Bynum game when Kobe wasn't playing doesn't automatically mean he can't be a 1st option or he HAD to have Kobe....Lakers lost to the Wizards, almost to NO's and some other tanking team i can't remember with both of them earlier in the year. losing last night isn't just on Bynum...
:hammerhead:

[kennethgriffin]

i actually hope they drastically underrate kobe again this year like they did last year

it means we'l get to see another 50-60+ point game and a sarcastic post game quote

[chips93]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

the ball handler of the second best offense in the league, and putting up 23-6-6 in the playoffs?

:confusedshrug:

doesnt look to bad to me

[tmacattack33]

i actually hope they drastically underrate kobe again this year like they did last year

it means we'l get to see another 50-60+ point game and a sarcastic post game quote

And many other games where he wanted to do the same, and shot the ball way too much on terrible efficiency.

[airchibundo507]

1 LeBron
2 Durant
3 Howard
4 Paul
5 Wade
6 Dirk
7 Carmelo
8 Kobe
9 Rondo
10 DWill
11 Westbrook
12 Rose
13 Gasol
14 Bosh
15 Aldridge
16 Love
17 Nash
18 Griffin
19 Parker
20 Bynum

[TonyD]

So, looks like LMA is #20 and Nash is 19.

[Jacks3]

lol @ Pau above Nash. :facepalm

[All Net]

Thought Nash would be ranked higher

[Rekindled]

lmao kevin love ranked above nash


Nash took a far less talented team to almost making the playoffs , Kevin love took the team to nowhere.

[All Net]

Bosh at 18

[TonyD]

Melo @ 17 is a lot lower than most people had him.

[LongLiveTheKing]

Melo at 17 haha wow.

[Umad101]

Melo at 17 haha wow.
That is just wrong dude is top 10:facepalm

[IGOTGAME]

That is just wrong dude is top 10:facepalm
That's crazy.

[tmacattack33]

Melo at 17 haha wow.

Are they revealing one every hour today or something?

[All Net]

They have love and even pau over melo amazing really. Melo is still a top 10 talent

[Sarcastic]

Do people still question whether or not ESPN hates NY?

Amare dropped 30 spots, despite dealing with injuries, death in the family, etc. Derrick Rose didn't drop 30 spots and he will be gone the entire season.

And Melo at 17 is an absolute joke. Once D'Antoni was gone, Melo was putting up MVP numbers in April.

[KG215]

Do people still question whether or not ESPN hates NY?

Amare dropped 30 spots, despite dealing with injuries, death in the family, etc. Derrick Rose didn't drop 30 spots and he will be gone the entire season.

And Melo at 17 is an absolute joke. Once D'Antoni was gone, Melo was putting up MVP numbers in April.

I'm guessing most of the voters are more-or-less basing this off what they did this past season, not what they think will do next year. So it shouldn't really be a big surprise Amare dropped and Rose didn't.

[Sarcastic]

I'm guessing most of the voters are more-or-less basing this off what they did this past season, not what they think will do next year. So it shouldn't really be a big surprise Amare dropped and Rose didn't.


What did Steph Curry do better than Amare? 15/5 in 26 games played? What did Zach Randolph do better than Amare? 11/8 in 28 games played?

Amare, despite injury, despite playing with about 7 different pgs, despite his brother dying, put up 18/8 in 47 games.

[Al Thornton]

wait what the fck how is pau top 15? how is pau better than tony parker or carmelo or chris bosh?

[IGOTGAME]

wait what the fck how is pau top 15? how is pau better than tony parker or carmelo or chris bosh?
He isn't.

[All Net]

wait what the fck how is pau top 15? how is pau better than tony parker or carmelo or chris bosh?

Not sure why you are including bosh in your list. Pau is just as good if not better.

[Sarcastic]

Not sure why you are including bosh in your list. Pau is just as good if not better.


Laker fans were ready to kill Pau last year. He did nothing last year to demonstrate that he is a top 15 player, unless you are basing it on career, which it's not supposed to be.

[Optimus Prime]

Laker fans were ready to kill Pau last year. He did nothing last year to demonstrate that he is a top 15 player, unless you are basing it on career, which it's not supposed to be.

We were mad at him last year because we know how capable of a player he is, but he would consistently just...not really show up. He still put up close to his career averages last year. Considering the fact that he got traded...oops wait no nevermind "basketball reasons", he did all right given the circumstances.

I know you love Amare, but the dude is a bum now. Bosh is all right, but he does not bring all the qualities that Pau Gasol brings. Gasol is probably the most versatile big man in the league.

I don't get why people get all upset at ESPN rankings anyway. They will probably have Blake Griffin at #3 BECAUSE HE DUNKED OVER A KIA EXPLOSIVE POSTERS!!! :facepalm

:kobe:

[Sarcastic]

We were mad at him last year because we know how capable of a player he is, but he would consistently just...not really show up. He still put up close to his career averages last year. Considering the fact that he got traded...oops wait no nevermind "basketball reasons", he did all right given the circumstances.

I know you love Amare, but the dude is a bum now. Bosh is all right, but he does not bring all the qualities that Pau Gasol brings. Gasol is probably the most versatile big man in the league.

I don't get why people get all upset at ESPN rankings anyway. They will probably have Blake Griffin at #3 BECAUSE HE DUNKED OVER A KIA EXPLOSIVE POSTERS!!! :facepalm

:kobe:


The point is, they should be ranked either according to potential or actual results, and not a mish mash of whatever they feel like for each player.

Pau's stats were not impressive last year. Dirk came into the season completely out of shape and put up 15/5 in January.

Melo was player of the month in April putting up 30/7/3.5 on 49%.


Basically fck BullShitProgrammingNetwork and all their biases. They all come from Boston and always go out of their way to shit on NY teams and players.

[noosaman]

The point is, they should be ranked either according to potential or actual results, and not a mish mash of whatever they feel like for each player.

Pau's stats were not impressive last year. Dirk came into the season completely out of shape and put up 15/5 in January.

Melo was player of the month in April putting up 30/7/3.5 on 49%.


Basically fck BullShitProgrammingNetwork and all their biases. They all come from Boston and always go out of their way to shit on NY teams and players.

But even in a down year Dirk was clearly better than Carmelo

[Sarcastic]

But even in a down year Dirk was clearly better than Carmelo


Even if you believe that, explain what Deron Williams did better than Melo?
Lighting up Jeremy Lin in 1 game? Have the Nets even sniffed the playoffs since he got there?

[Optimus Prime]

The point is, they should be ranked either according to potential or actual results, and not a mish mash of whatever they feel like for each player.

Pau's stats were not impressive last year. Dirk came into the season completely out of shape and put up 15/5 in January.

Melo was player of the month in April putting up 30/7/3.5 on 49%.


Basically fck BullShitProgrammingNetwork and all their biases. They all come from Boston and always go out of their way to shit on NY teams and players.

Pau put up 17.4 PPG/10.4 RPG/3.7 APG/1.4 BLKPG on .501% shooting. That's pretty darn good, especially considering it was a "down" year for him. He averaged a double-double and nearly 4 APG as a big who was constantly being traded everywhere, supposedly old and overpaid and horribly mis-used by Mike Brown.

I still don't get all the angst over ESPN opinions. To me they are entertaining at times but otherwise I don't really care what they say. :confusedshrug:

:kobe:

[noosaman]

Even if you believe that, explain what Deron Williams did better than Melo?
Lighting up Jeremy Lin in 1 game? Have the Nets even sniffed the playoffs since he got there?

yeah the Deron Williams inclusion is bullshit. But I can tell you for a fact that Dirk rounded into his usual 25/10 self on 55% shooting by February of last season and still got that terrible squad to a better record out West than carmelo did in the East

[Sarcastic]

yeah the Deron Williams inclusion is bullshit. But I can tell you for a fact that Dirk rounded into his usual 25/10 self on 55% shooting by February of last season and still got that terrible squad to a better record out West than carmelo did in the East


They both finished 36-30. He never had a 25/10 month, and finished with .5 more rebounds per game, and didn't come close to 55% in any month.

Go look up Melo's boxscores in April, when Lin and Amare went down, while playing with Mike Bibby as his PG.

[MiamiThrice]

They both finished 36-30. He never had a 25/10 month, and finished with .5 more rebounds per game, and didn't come close to 55% in any month.

Go look up Melo's boxscores in April, when Lin and Amare went down, while playing with Mike Bibby as his PG.

Nobody gives a **** about the overrated loser New York Knicks.

Get back to me when Melo shows he is capable of doing something that actually ****ing matters.

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/images/photos/001/248/877/115952428_crop_340x234.jpg

[imdaman99]

Nobody gives a **** about the overrated loser New York Knicks.

Get back to me when Melo shows he is capable of doing something that actually ****ing matters.

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/images/photos/001/248/877/115952428_crop_340x234.jpg
dirk wouldn't have won shit if he had jr smith at SG on his team every year.

stfu troll, and worry about beating the jets without their best player :roll:

[Cone]

dirk wouldn't have won shit if he had jr smith at SG on his team every year.

stfu troll, and worry about beating the jets without their best player :roll:

Yeah, he would actually.

It's not JRs fault that Amare, Melo and the Knicks are horrifically bad.

[imdaman99]

Yeah, he would actually.

It's not JRs fault that Amare, Melo and the Knicks are horrifically bad.
you ever see jr smith play a basketball game before? better yet, ever seen him play a playoff game before? no? than stfu

[stallionaire]

lmao kevin love ranked above nash


Nash took a far less talented team to almost making the playoffs , Kevin love took the team to nowhere.

:facepalm This ****ing idiot.

Love is MUCH better than Nash. Not even a question.

[The_Yearning]

:facepalm This ****ing idiot.

Love is MUCH better than Nash. Not even a question.

Lmao hell no.

Kevin Love is top 20 at best.

[TheeBeast]

:facepalm This ****ing idiot.

Love is MUCH better than Nash. Not even a question.

Steve Nash single handedly brought his team to the WCF to face the Lakers at the age of 35

Kevin Love can't even get his team to go .500 :confusedshrug:

[Rubio2Gasol]

Kevin love was 5-26 without Rubio.

Nash almost took Jarded Dudley and Gortat to the playoffs.

[TheeBeast]

Kevin love was 5-26 without Rubio.

Nash almost took Jarded Dudley and Gortat to the playoffs.

Forget K Love, Nash took Amare further than Carmelo ever dreamed.

[imdaman99]

Forget K Love, Nash took Amare further than Carmelo ever dreamed.
so where was it that carmelo took the nuggets in 2009? melo got to game 6 in the wcf, just as far as nash did :rolleyes:

[TheeBeast]

so where was it that carmelo took the nuggets in 2009? melo got to game 6 in the wcf, just as far as nash did :rolleyes:

Those Nuggets were deep, Chauncy Billups/Kenyon Martin both barley coming out their primes, JR Smith with his most consistent season and a solid center and from the looks of that playoff run Nene was looking like an easy top 10 center, imo.

Come on now..

[iamgine]

1. Lebron James
2. Kevin Durant
3. Dwight Howard
4. Chris Paul
5. Dirk Nowitski
6. Kobe Bryant
7. Andrew Bynum
8. Carmelo Anthony
9. Russell Westbrook
10. Derrick Rose
11. Dwyane Wade
12. Tony Parker
13. Deron Williams
14. LaMarcus Aldridge
15. Kevin Love
16. Blake Griffin
17. Steve Nash
18. Rajon Rondo
19. Pau Gasol
20. Chris Bosh

[All Net]

Laker fans were ready to kill Pau last year. He did nothing last year to demonstrate that he is a top 15 player, unless you are basing it on career, which it's not supposed to be.

He didn't turn up in the last two playoff series but last year still averaged 17,10,4 on 50% shooting as somebody mentioned. He is still a quailty player. My point was with bosh and him being ranked higher which is fair not that he should be ahead of Melo.

[All Net]

Pau ranked 15th

Griffin just in at 14th

[lakers_forever]

......

[daily]

Bynum comes in at 13

13 Andrew Bynum
14 Blake Griffin
15 Pau Gasol
16 Tony Parker
17 Carmelo Anthony
18 Chris Bosh
19 Steve Nash
20 Lamarcus Aldridge

[lakers_forever]

1. Lebron James
2. Kevin Durant
3. Dwight Howard
4. Kobe Bryant
5. Chris Paul
6. Derrick Rose
7. Dirk Nowitzki
8. Dwyane Wade
9. Russell Westbrook
10. Rajon Rondo
11. Deron Williams
12. Andrew Bynum
13. Tony Parker
14. Carmelo Anthony
15. Kevin Love
16. Blake Griffin
17. Chris Bosh
18. Steve Nash
19. Kevin Garnett
20. Paul Gasol
21. Amare Stoudmire
22. Lamarcus Aldridge
23. Tyson Chandler
24. Kyrie Irving
25. Paul Pierce

[All Net]

Shows how far Drew has come

18, 11 on 55% shooting is no joke.

[RRR3]

Shows how far Drew has come

18, 11 on 55% shooting is no joke.
19, 12 on 56% shooting actually

[All Net]

19, 12 on 56% shooting actually

If you are rounding it up yes...

[BuGzBuNNy]

Wait, where's the list?

Okay I see 16 - 20

[All Net]

12- Rajon Rondo

[Cone]

Dirk #11. Love is higher... Sad.

[RRR3]

Dirk #11. Love is higher... Sad.
Post on your main account, silkktheshocker

[Cone]

Post on your main account, silkktheshocker

What the fk?? :oldlol:

Why am I him?

[Miller for 3]

I'm just shocked ESPN experts could name more than 40 players.

[All Net]

FYI

10-Deron Williams
9-Russell Westbrook

[IGOTGAME]

12- Rajon Rondo
Underrated

[BuffaloBill]

8 - Dwayne Wade



Did they really just put Kevin Love in the top 7? I don't know what to say.


I'm guessing the rest will look like this:


7. Kevin Love
6. Derrick Rose
5. Kobe Bryant
4. Chris Paul
3. Dwight Howard
2. Kevin Durant
1. Lebron James

[guy]

I'd easily take Rondo over Love, Westbrook, and Deron.

[RRR3]

Kevin Love over Dwyane Wade. :coleman:
Wow. Just wow.:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

Love isn't over Westbrook either or D-Will or Rondo

[Jacks3]

I hate Wade and even I think #8 is too low for him. lol @ love being a better player.

[stallionaire]

Love is better than Wade.

Love is a machine. This entire forum underrates him. It's sad.

[RRR3]

Love is better than Wade.

Love is a machine. This entire forum underrates him. It's sad.
:facepalm He's a better rebounder and shooter than Wade, Wade shits on him at everything else, including shotblocking despite being way shorter.

[All Net]

Wow how overrated is Love... Nuts

You would think he just led wolves to 60 wins or something.

[All Net]

Rose ahead of Kobe? Really?

[Hoiids]

Rose in the top 5 is hilarious
:biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums:
:confusedshrug:

[crisoner]

Rose ahead of Kobe? Really?

If he was healthy there is an argument...but right now?

What a joke. Kobe should be at least 5.

And at his age and the miles he gots on him that is amazing.

[crisoner]

Wow how overrated is Love... Nuts

You would think he just led wolves to 60 wins or something.

Yeah Love at 7???

I got him highest at 10.

[dynasty1978]

Rose ahead of Kobe? Really?

Rose ahead of alot of these guys isn't right. He should be behind Wade and Westbrook as well.

[crisoner]

So Derrick Rose had an MVP season and he gets 8
Rose gets a severe injury, missed 27 games, and will miss the majority of games next season, and he gets 5?

:biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

[BuffaloBill]

So Derrick Rose had an MVP season and he gets 8
Rose gets a severe injury, missed 27 games, and will miss the majority of games next season, and he gets 5?

:biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums:



We don't know if he's 5 yet. Lol

[guy]

Wow. I'm a Bulls fan and would be considered a Kobe hater, but thats just not right :oldlol:

[Sarcastic]

So Derrick Rose had an MVP season and he gets 8
Rose gets a severe injury, missed 27 games, and will miss the majority of games next season, and he gets 5?

:biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums:


ESPN will put him top 3 next year without having played any games.

[DuMa]

lol all you fools getting your panties messed up because of a ranking system.

[imdaman99]

Well, thats BSPN for ya :oldlol:

[pauk]

Rose ahead of Kobe? Really?

Yea, i could understand if it was a 2010 Rose.. a healthy Rose... but he wasnt that the last season and neither is he that now, Kobe was better imo...

[Ruutu]

Rose is so overrated! Im not a big Kobe fan but they are direspectful! He should be rated better than Rose! Guess ESPN wants to hype up Roses comback this season!

[fpliii]

6 Kobe (8.88) - I don't know if I have a huge problem with him here, but he absolutely cannot be behind Rose (whether this is based on last season or next season, it's still a farce)

7 Love (8.86) - I haven't watched him enough to argue this, but shouldn't his teams be winning more if he's top 7???

8 Wade (8.77) - complete disgrace, ESPN completely destroyed any credibility they had by putting him this low

9 Westbrook (8.76) - should be ahead of Rose, healthy or not

10 DWill (8.69) - shouldn't sniff the top 10, so 10 is the best place for him

They list their criteria as an evaluation 1-10 by voters of "the current quality of each player." Rose???

:biggums:

[crisoner]

If Rose was healthy I probably would not argue this because he is younger and is closing in on his prime. But come on...I'm rooting for Rose to come back though. And I hope he comes back better then ever...but there is a huge chance that he will never be the same player.

[FireDavidKahn]

Wow how overrated is Love... Nuts

You would think he just led wolves to 60 wins or something.
Lol. How did Deron Williams do last year? My memory is fuzzy...

[IGOTGAME]

Lol. How did Deron Williams do last year? My memory is fuzzy...

come on, you can't seriously believe that Kevin Love is the 7th best player in the league. That is just absurd.

[FireDavidKahn]

come on, you can't seriously believe that Kevin Love is the 7th best player in the league. That is just absurd.
How did the 10th best player do in the league with no help? How did his former team do when he left? I can't remember guys.

[guy]

So Derrick Rose had an MVP season and he gets 8
Rose gets a severe injury, missed 27 games, and will miss the majority of games next season, and he gets 5?

:biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

Last year I think he should've been 6 behind Wade, Dirk, Lebron, Howard, and Durant, and ahead of Kobe and CP3. This year though, I think he should clearly be behind Lebron, Durant, Howard, CP3, Kobe, Wade at 7.

[IGOTGAME]

How did the 10th best player do in the league with no help? How did his former team do when he left? I can't remember guys.

I'm not talking about how ESPN ranked them. I'm taking about in your mind. Do you really believe there aren't 7 players better than Kevin Love. You really Kevin Love is better than Dirk and Wade.

You can make an argument that Chris Bosh is an equal player to Kevin Love. However, I do think Chris Bosh was severely underrated in this ranking. I have in well within my top 15.

[FireDavidKahn]

I'm not talking about how ESPN ranked them. I'm taking about in your mind. Do you really believe there aren't 7 players better than Kevin Love. You really Kevin Love is better than Dirk and Wade.

You can make an argument that Chris Bosh is an equal player to Kevin Love. However, I do think Chris Bosh was severely underrated in this ranking. I have in well within my top 15.
That's a hard question to answer. I think a huge chunk of the reasoning for Love being ranked 7th is because he hasn't even entered his prime yet and his still improving, in essence they are projecting him to get better. On the other hand, you have players like Dirk and Wade who have plateaued and/or declining.

[IGOTGAME]

That's a hard question to answer. I think a huge chunk of the reasoning for Love being ranked 7th is because he hasn't even entered his prime yet and his still improving, in essence they are projecting him to get better. On the other hand, you have players like Dirk and Wade who have plateaued and/or declining.

i guess. Still odd to me because Kevin Love hasn't even shown he could be a number 1 on a playoff team. There are 7 other players who would have gotten that team to the playoffs.

[rhythmic]

So Derrick Rose had an MVP season and he gets 8
Rose gets a severe injury, missed 27 games, and will miss the majority of games next season, and he gets 5?

:biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

You guys are not being logical at the same time.
Players like Kobe, who played most of the season, could have simply regressed to the point below Rose (who is still in his early 20's). It has little to do with how they did last season, since Rose was injured and Kobe definitely had a worse year (last year) in comparison to his 2011 season. I mean he had a pretty inefficient year, lets be honest.

That's how ESPN perceives it, I believe Kobe got a score of 9.40 last year, no?
This year he got 8.88.

The problem I have with this ranking is Kevin Love.
They've basically said that Kobe is only 0.02 better then Love, that is absurd. I'm not even going to mention the disrespect Dirk, Wade and even Westbrook got by being ranked behind Love.

I will say this one last time, KEVIN LOVE IS NOT AN IMPACT PLAYER. He is efficient but he shoots like a guard, he's a machine on the glass but he is a liability defensively. He is an alright passer though. I really just don't like him, I would take Gasol, Bosh and LA over Love any day. Dirk is a no brainer to me either. I'd rank Love the 4th or 5th best PF, and the 8th or 9th best big man behind the players I have already named plus Bynum, Howard, and Garnett.

So in conclusion I'd have him ranked somewhere in the late teens.
Nash led a very mediocre team to playoff contention, even with all the injuries in Minnesota, Love still couldn't achieve similar results. I'd take Nash over him in a heart-beat, impact wise, Nash is in the top fifteen without a doubt. Better then Griffin, Gasol and maybe even Bynum.

I'm sensing it will be Rose, Paul, Howard, Durant and James. I would be shocked if the order is different. Only possible change would be Howard over Durant.

Blah, Love is so overrated it's sickening now. Guy hasn't even sniffed the playoffs yet... better then a PF who led his team to a championship just two years ago? Unreal. Dirk is easily top ten still, and Melo is way to low.

[RRR3]

These rankings are terrible, but it's ESPN after all. It seems like they just throw names out after the top 20 or so.

[TheeBeast]

1.Lebron James
2.Kevin Durant
3.Kobe Bryant
4.Dwight Howard
5.Chris Paul
6.Dwyane Wade only 2 off
7.Deron Williams only 3 off
8.Kevin Love Only 1 off
9.Tony Parker
10. Andrew Bynum only 3 off
11.Russell Westbrook only 2 off
12.Dirk Nowitski only 1 off
13.Carmelo Anthony
14.Blake Griffin Got this one right
15.Chris Bosh only 3 off
16.Steve Nash only 3 off
17.Rajon Rondo
18.Pau Gasol only 3 off
19.LaMarcus Aldridge only 1 off
20.Derrick Rose (Top 7 if not injured)

Not bad so far :pimp:

[tmacattack33]

Kevin Love at 7? Not good.

Rest if the list seems fine besides Melo being out of the top 15.

[LamarOdom]

lol at Josh Smith so low, without doubt the most underrated player in the leauge.

[guy]

Tyson Chandler over M. Gasol, Harden, Duncan, Pierce, Horford, J. Smith is a little crazy IMO.

[Cone]

Kevin Love #7? What a joke. Massively overrated.

[demons2005]

Regarding people who say that CP3 should be ahead of Rose:

"better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt"

Ironically this can be apply to the players in question as well because everyone thinks Rose is a scrub now since he didn't play but CP proved he is a scrub last year against the Spurs

[TheeBeast]

Tyson Chandler over M. Gasol, Harden, Duncan, Pierce, Horford, J. Smith is a little crazy IMO.

I've been saying this before, Chandler has been one of the most overrated players in the league since the Mavs won the championship.

[EnoughSaid]

Wade at 8?! :roll: This is just like the 08-09 season where everyone was doubting him. Keep doing it, and we'll see what happens. :facepalm

[TheeBeast]

Wade at 8?! :roll: This is just like the 08-09 season where everyone was doubting him. Keep doing it, and we'll see what happens. :facepalm

I wouldn't be surprised if that's their goal. Kobe and Wade at 6 and 8?

:coleman:

[EnoughSaid]

I wouldn't be surprised if that's their goal. Kobe and Wade at 6 and 8?

:coleman:

If Kobe and Wade play like they did back in 08-09... :eek: :bowdown:

[KG215]

You can't really argue Kobe any higher than #5. I guess if you want to say he's #4 ahead of Dwight due to Dwight being injured and not having much of an ipmact last season, that's fine, but he's still not a better player at this point in his career than a healthy Dwight.

Not sure about Wade at #8 either. I'd definitely take a healthy (by Wade standards) over Kevin Love and, next year anyway, I could see him surpassing Kobe. Not sure he should be any higher than #6 or #5 based on last year, though.

The Rose top 5 ranking is confusing as well. A healthy Rose definitely has a case for top 5, but he's not going to be healthy next year. We don't even know if he'll be back before March or maybe even the playoffs. At the same time, you can't just completely drop him down to like #20 or #30, either. Not sure what their criteria are. If it's based mostly on last season, based mostly on what they think they'll be next season, or a combination of both. With 100+ different people voting I'm sure there's a lot of variation.

[SyRyanYang]

lol, Dirk@11 and Rose top 5???:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Legends66NBA7]

lol at Josh Smith so low, without doubt the most underrated player in the leauge.

LaMarcus Aldridge is probably more underrated than Smith.

[Legends66NBA7]

You can't really argue Kobe any higher than #5. I guess if you want to say he's #4 ahead of Dwight due to Dwight being injured and not having much of an ipmact last season, that's fine, but he's still not a better player at this point in his career than a healthy Dwight.

Not sure about Wade at #8 either. I'd definitely take a healthy (by Wade standards) over Kevin Love and, next year anyway, I could see him surpassing Kobe. Not sure he should be any higher than #6 or #5 based on last year, though.

The Rose top 5 ranking is confusing as well. A healthy Rose definitely has a case for top 5, but he's not going to be healthy next year. We don't even know if he'll be back before March or maybe even the playoffs. At the same time, you can't just completely drop him down to like #20 or #30, either. Not sure what their criteria are. If it's based mostly on last season, based mostly on what they think they'll be next season, or a combination of both. With 100+ different people voting I'm sure there's a lot of variation.

I kind off think it differently. Kobe and Wade being any higher than #6 would be getting there because of reputation. I actually don't have a problem with Wade's ranking, but I do think Kobe and Wade should be a spot next to each other.

Agreed with Rose. He's going to miss the majority of the season and he's Top 5 ? Purely of reputation of his MVP year. You can't even guage him properly because of this injury. If it was possible, I would have put his status as an incomplete.

I think Love should be Top 10 and I can probably see improve more this year.

[Freedom Kid7]

Rose in the Top 5? Injured? Really ESPN? I love Rose and is a top 5 player when healthy, but come on, he won't even be relevant next season (or he shouldn't be, he really should take the whole season off imo)

[demons2005]

Regarding people who say that CP3 should be ahead of Rose:

"better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt"

Ironically this can be apply to the players in question as well because everyone thinks Rose is a scrub now since he didn't play but CP proved he is a scrub last year against the Spurs
and there we have it the ESPN voters have just removed all doubt about themselfs. I guess they forgot what happened when Bulls played the Clippers last year? what a bunch of brainwashed idiots.

[Whoah10115]

Deron Williams is #10 but Paul Pierce isn't in the top 25.



Seriously...Deron has no argument over either Pierce or Rondo. Pierce is always underrated. And when it comes time for playoffs, not only is Rondo much better than Deron but he's better throughout the playoffs than Deron is at his peak in the regular season...that's crazy.


The whole list is stupid...and like someone said, Derrick Rose wins the MVP and is #8. Derrick Rose misses over a third of the season, his team still has the best record, and he is going to miss more than half of the upcoming season...he is now #5. Que?

[KG215]

Regarding people who say that CP3 should be ahead of Rose:

"better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt"

Ironically this can be apply to the players in question as well because everyone thinks Rose is a scrub now since he didn't play but CP proved he is a scrub last year against the Spurs

Ummm..he didn't have a great series but he was paying hurt, and it was noticeable.

[guy]

Regarding people who say that CP3 should be ahead of Rose:

"better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt"

Ironically this can be apply to the players in question as well because everyone thinks Rose is a scrub now since he didn't play but CP proved he is a scrub last year against the Spurs

Last year CP3 was #4 ahead of Dirk, Durant, Kobe, and Rose, which really made absolutely no sense at all. He coasted the whole regular season like he didn't care that much and then had one great playoff series. Made no sense for him to be ahead of the Finals MVP, scoring champ and WC finalist, the previous 2 Finals MVP, and the MVP and EC Finalist. He deserves to be there this year, but last year made no sense at all.

[pauk]

Cant wait for Kobe to go: "Not bad for the 6th best player in the NBA..." after a scoring outburst... :)

[IGOTGAME]

Last year CP3 was #4 ahead of Dirk, Durant, Kobe, and Rose, which really made absolutely no sense at all. He coasted the whole regular season like he didn't care that much and then had one great playoff series. Made no sense for him to be ahead of the Finals MVP, scoring champ and WC finalist, the previous 2 Finals MVP, and the MVP and EC Finalist. He deserves to be there this year, but last year made no sense at all.

CP3 hasn't been performing for the last couple of years. I think its time he show us his talent again before people just anoint him.

[LikeABosh]

Last year Rose was ranked number 8. Now he's number 5.:wtf: What exactly did he do to move up?

[tmacattack33]

Last year Rose was ranked number 8. Now he's number 5.:wtf: What exactly did he do to move up?

Well some of it probably wasn't about Rose himself but rather his competition on this list...two of the guys ahead of him last year, Wade and Dirk, declined heavily.

And Chicago's poor playoff performance without him this year can certainly be an argument used in Rose's favor. Going from an ECF team (and losing to Miami) to a first round-and-out team (and losing to Igoudala's Sixers) is a big drop off.





That being said though, due to Rose's injury and the fact that we don't even know if he will ever be as quick as he once was, I don't really like him at 5.

[BuffaloBill]

Last year Rose was ranked number 8. Now he's number 5.:wtf: What exactly did he do to move up?


His rank went up but his score is worse than last year.


9.27(2011) > 9.02(2012)

[AlonzoGOAT]

Lebron should of gone up to a 10 way better then last season imo




lol