What Do You Expect From A Healthy Wade This Year

[detroitdogg]

Since I have been rotfl over the fact that as always, Wade has been placed on the back burner by the media and the fans (after being 3rd in per and winning another ring) I just want to ask dudes what they expect from him this year knowing he has something to prove yet again (how this is possible is amazing, easily the most disrespected star in sports history). Me personally, I think he will have another one of those years where he re places himself in the top 3 category (never fell out of top 5). I expect somewhere around

25.5ppg, 6rpg, 6apg, 2stl, 1.5blk, 51%fg

[CavaliersFTW]

Since I have been rotfl over the fact that as always, Wade has been placed on the back burner by the media and the fans (after being 3rd in per and winning another ring) I just want to ask dudes what they expect from him this year knowing he has something to prove yet again (how this is possible is amazing, easily the most disrespected star in sports history). Me personally, I think he will have another one of those years where he re places himself in the top 3 category (never fell out of top 5). I expect somewhere around

25.5ppg, 6rpg, 6apg, 2stl, 1.5blk, 51%fg
I forget which thread but I remember Euroleague saying that Vassilis Spanuallis destroys D-Wade @ every facet of the game and was calling everyone who disagrees a racist :facepalm

Personally I think Wade will do better than last season - as long as he stays injury free he'll be a top SG candidate

[kennethgriffin]

3rd team all nba
22/5/4
missing 10 games again



how can a guy possibly thrive playing on a team with lebron james the biggest stat hog of all time


then you add shard and ray ray lol... wades career is over

its basically like one of the most tallented/gifted players ever threw away his career to prop up lebron james legacy

[longtime lurker]

I expect a lot of flopping and phantom calls in his favour.

[arifgokcen]

3rd team all nba
22/5/4
missing 10 games again



how can a guy possibly thrive playing on a team with lebron james the biggest stat hog of all time


then you add shard and ray ray lol... wades career is over

its basically like one of the most tallented/gifted players ever threw away his career to prop up lebron james legacy

Ohh out troll is here.Welcome

[Ikill]

25-27/5-6/5-6/1.1+/1.5+ 2 turnovers 50-52/30-33/80-85 57-59 ts% a little bit less athletic than his 2011 self but improved jumpshot and free throw shooting

[tmacattack33]

Eh, there's no guarantee that he'll stay healthy all year and he likely won't given his style of play.

[kennethgriffin]

Ohh out troll is here.Welcome

wait... troll? i'm sorry. i didn't know predicting wade to basically do something similar to last year was considered trolling... especially with additions that require offense to be productive..


ok... lebron wins mvp with 28/7/8 ( 1st team all nba )


and wade averages 28/6/5 ( 1st team all nba )

and bosh averages 28/11/2 ( 1st team all nba )

and ray allen averages 28/4/3 ( 1st team all nba )

and rashard lewis averages 28/3/2 ( 1st team all nba )


happy? everyone wins..






but seriously.. this is the most likely case

1st team all nba will be kobe and paul

2nd team all nba will be westbrook and deron




the heat will average

lebron - 28/7/7
wade - 22/6/5
bosh - 19/10/2
ray - 14/3/3


there is no room for 2 guys averaging over 25ppg anymore. especially with lebron who wants closer to 30ppg in order to have an mvp chance

[Umad101]

More whistle blown

[PyrrhusX]

24 - 5 - 5 on 51%
NBA All-second team

[Young X]

25/6/5/1.5 blks on 50%.

[LongLiveTheKing]

26, 6 assists, 5 rebounds, a couple of game winners and a 3rd ring.

[Peteballa]

If Wade is anything like he was in 08-09, it's over. Lock for the championship. Throw away the key.

If he is anything like last year, expect lots of complaining and not getting back on defense.

[JBull]

I expect him to be a sidekick again

[lilgodfather1]

Expectations are rarely met. Some people actually think he'll put up 26 points as the second option, and Bosh getting his 16-18 per game too? Even if Wade was the team's leading scorer LeBron's scoring will have to drop off to at least 25 to get Wade that high.

Now on to my expectations of Wade 24/6/5/53% back to his #1 SG in the league form, just with a different role. With Wade I just hope he stays healthy. With a 100% Wade, and a 100% Bosh the team is all but guaranteed a title, unless LeBron chokes.

[cavsfanatic]

Is he healthy though? If he's healthy then I expect him to be back to 2010-2011 form.

[KOBE143]

No matter how healthy Wade is, his Legacy was already been destroyed.. LeBrick James destroyed it.. Theres no way Wade will back in his former self with a stat padder choker in his side.. Wade has a chance to be the 3rd sg of all time and a top 20 player of all time but with LeBrick, not a chance..

[red1]

25-5-6 best guard in the league

[oh the horror]

You've added a Ray Allen to your team, and Lewis.

With Lebron, Bosh, and the rest, Wade is not putting up 26-27ppg on that team folks.


I think 22/5/4 is a real expectation.

[BuGzBuNNy]

Some very generous predictions so far. I like the above on 49%

[BlackVVaves]

Anyone that thinks Wade is putting up 25-28 PPG on this current Heat team is disillusioned and ripe in homerism.

Reasonable expectations? 23/5/4 on 50% shooting. I expect similar production to last year, just less disparity between highs and lows and more consistently. However, he'll probably miss 10-15 games, as usual.

Someone said best guard in the league next year? Yea, right. Chris Paul and Westbrook will easily have better years as guards, and I expect Kobe to put up something resembling 24/5/5 on 47% shooting, so the race for "Best SG in the league" will be an on-going debate throughout the season.

[EnoughSaid]

Well if he comes in fully healthy, with an improved jumpshot, I say WATCH OUT. Dude is still a top 5 player, and when he's not sidelined with injury, he's easily a 25/5/5 on 50% guy. I wonder if maybe LeBron takes on the facilitator role and let's Wade be the go-to scorer.

Wade: 26-27/5/4 on 50%

LeBron: 24/8/8 on 55%?
:bowdown:

[Legends66NBA7]

Someone said best guard in the league next year? Yea, right. Chris Paul and Westbrook will easily have better years as guards, and I expect Kobe to put up something resembling 24/5/5 on 47% shooting, so the race for "Best SG in the league" will be an on-going debate throughout the season.

I'd say Rondo will have a better year too.

[detroitdogg]

Anyone that thinks Wade is putting up 25-28 PPG on this current Heat team is disillusioned and ripe in homerism.

Reasonable expectations? 23/5/4 on 50% shooting. I expect similar production to last year, just less disparity between highs and lows and more consistently. However, he'll probably miss 10-15 games, as usual.

Someone said best guard in the league next year? Yea, right. Chris Paul and Westbrook will easily have better years as guards, and I expect Kobe to put up something resembling 24/5/5 on 47% shooting, so the race for "Best SG in the league" will be an on-going debate throughout the season.
So you are saying that Wade will not be able to put up basically his "CAREER AVERAGES", but Kobe will be able to do something he has not EVER done before in his 16 year career huh, 47% is laughable, FOH, nygga could not do that in his prime with one of the best teams in NBA history around him, the fukk you expect him to do that shyt now.

[Mr. I'm So Rad]

So you are saying that Wade will not be able to put up basically his "CAREER AVERAGES", but Kobe will be able to do something he has not EVER done before in his 16 year career huh, 47% is laughable, FOH, nygga could not do that in his prime with one of the best teams in NBA history around him, the fukk you expect him to do that shyt now.

Not to derail the thread, but Kobe has shot 47% from the field before. And with Nash, Kobe will get many more open looks than ever before. And the numbers show that Kobe is very efficient on open, spot up shots. I don't think you guys realize just how much attention defenses give to Kobe. It will do him a world of wonder to have a PG that can actually play like a true PG, barring any wrist injury or something of the sort like he had last season.

And he predicted Kobe wouldn't do his career averages either. Kobe hasn't averaged less than 25ppg sine 2004 and that was because of Malone and Payton as well as him missing more games.

[detroitdogg]

Not to derail the thread, but Kobe has shot 47% from the field before. And with Nash, Kobe will get many more open looks than ever before. And the numbers show that Kobe is very efficient on open, spot up shots. I don't think you guys realize just how much attention defenses give to Kobe. It will do him a world of wonder to have a PG that can actually play like a true PG, barring any wrist injury or something of the sort like he had last season.

And he predicted Kobe wouldn't do his career averages either. Kobe hasn't averaged less than 25ppg sine 2004 and that was because of Malone and Payton as well as him missing more games.
No he has not, he had a 46.7 and a 46.9, he never eclipsed 47% period bruh.

[wally_world]

21/5/4. 3rd team all NBA

[Mr. I'm So Rad]

No he has not, he had a 46.7 and a 46.9, he never eclipsed 47% period bruh.

Ok a .3 and .1 difference :oldlol: My point still stands. Kobe almost never gets clean, open looks. Barring any injury to either him or Nash, he'll be more efficient. He's not even been inefficient in his career anyway so if he just shot his usual ~45-46% I'm cool with that.

[EnoughSaid]

What realllly annoys me is how people think a 2 point decrease in scoring = Wade's done. :facepalm

[RRR3]

Well if he comes in fully healthy, with an improved jumpshot, I say WATCH OUT. Dude is still a top 5 player, and when he's not sidelined with injury, he's easily a 25/5/5 on 50% guy. I wonder if maybe LeBron takes on the facilitator role and let's Wade be the go-to scorer.

Wade: 26-27/5/4 on 50%

LeBron: 24/8/8 on 55%?
:bowdown:
:roll: :roll: :roll: The Delusional Wade stan at it again. Why on earth should LeBron defer to a lesser player and worse scorer?:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm Wade is the sidekick, if you don't like it, then tough.

[kennethgriffin]

wade is a fragile undersized shooting guard whos lost most of his speed and quickness while depending almost entirely on slashing. hes an average midrange shooter and horrible three point shooter. he plays for whistles and contact. and thats what has ruined his body. he's younger that kobe and came in the league 7 years after him. and yet wade has declined far more than kobe has. he will be lucky to average anything over 23ppg. and has around 3-4 more years of allstar level play left in him.


3rd team all nba. more injuries to come. people on ISH dont have a clue

[LakersReign]

Since I have been rotfl over the fact that as always, Wade has been placed on the back burner by the media and the fans (after being 3rd in per and winning another ring) I just want to ask dudes what they expect from him this year knowing he has something to prove yet again (how this is possible is amazing, easily the most disrespected star in sports history). Me personally, I think he will have another one of those years where he re places himself in the top 3 category (never fell out of top 5). I expect somewhere around

25.5ppg, 6rpg, 6apg, 2stl, 1.5blk, 51%fg

The only people who "put Wade on the back burner" are all the FAKE Heat fans, who wanted his head on a plate, earlier in the season , when the Heat were losing. But now that they've won, those same ones are now calling him a Top 3 SG:lol

[ihoopallday]

I just want him to be healthy come playoff time.

[detroitdogg]

wade is a fragile undersized shooting guard whos lost most of his speed and quickness while depending almost entirely on slashing. hes an average midrange shooter and horrible three point shooter. he plays for whistles and contact. and thats what has ruined his body. he's younger that kobe and came in the league 7 years after him. and yet wade has declined far more than kobe has. he will be lucky to average anything over 23ppg. and has around 3-4 more years of allstar level play left in him.


3rd team all nba. more injuries to come. people on ISH dont have a clue
Where in the fukk is the proof of this decline, stop hating you dyckriding ass nygga. Prove it, giv me anything to show this "major decline" and you wont look like you are just suckin Bron off. Fukk out my thread hoe ass nygga, are you fukkin serious, you love Bron so much that you will intentionally throw around bullshyt to minimize the nygga who helped get Bron his 1st ring (nygga was not winning shyt going anywhere else).

Thats some straight whiteboy shyt, I came up seeing nyggas get killed for hating on other nyggas and you hoe ass whiteboys do that shyt for entertainment, fukk outta here hoe ass nygga.

[arifgokcen]

I really dont know if he will be healthy or not but he is not gonna average more than 22-23ppg.With all the offensive players he shouldnt need to average more than that anyway.

Though if he is healthy he can shoot around %52-%55.

Right now miami is the best offensive team by a fair margin.

They will probably go 10-12 deep during regular season.

Besides big three they have lewis-allen-chalmers-milller-joel anthony-haslem-cole-battier.Thats 8 players right there.

[Legends66NBA7]

Where in the fukk is the proof of this decline, stop hating you dyckriding ass nygga. Prove it, giv me anything to show this "major decline" and you wont look like you are just suckin Bron off. Fukk out my thread hoe ass nygga, are you fukkin serious, you love Bron so much that you will intentionally throw around bullshyt to minimize the nygga who helped get Bron his 1st ring (nygga was not winning shyt going anywhere else).

Man, where the hell are you seeing kengriffith as a LeBron fan ? Dude hates on Bron every chance he gets... check his avatar again... it says 0.5 rings (because he won the chip in a lockout year)... he hates him. I can see your annoyed and all, but he's trolling Wade for the hell of it.

He's a Kobe stan.


Thats some straight whiteboy shyt, I came up seeing nyggas get killed for hating on other nyggas and you hoe ass whiteboys do that shyt for entertainment, fukk outta here hoe ass nygga.

Funny part is that he is white. :oldlol:

[oh the horror]

The proof of Wade's decline is the eyeball test really. You can physically see it happening when you watch him play.


Now....im not sure if his decline is due to his injuries, OR are his injuries apart of his decline themselves?


He looks broken down out there, and his game hasnt EXACTLY adjusted yet. Dude HAS TO work on that jumper. The slashing aspect and cutting of his game is taking its toll on him physically.


He doesnt quite get in like he used to.


But lets be real...dude is still a top 5 SG in the league.

[arifgokcen]

The proof of Wade's decline is the eyeball test really. You can physically see it happening when you watch him play.


Now....im not sure if his decline is due to his injuries, OR are his injuries apart of his decline themselves?


He looks broken down out there, and his game hasnt EXACTLY adjusted yet. Dude HAS TO work on that jumper. The slashing aspect and cutting of his game is taking its toll on him physically.


He doesnt quite get in like he used to.


But lets be real...dude is still a top 5 SG in the league.

???????????
Top 5 SG.

OK he slowed down.With his injuries and playing style but top 5 really.He will be at worst behind kobe or if he comes back healthy and play the way he can he will probably the #4 best player in the league.Dont forget he is only 30

[All Net]

iF healthy? back in contention in terms of being a top 4-5 player for sure.

[Mr. I'm So Rad]

What realllly annoys me is how people think a 2 point decrease in scoring = Wade's done. :facepalm

It's not just about that. I watched him a lot last postseason. It was his inconsistency, and just the way he was playing. Lots of times he was settling for jumpers that clanked. And when he wasn't, it was like he was trying harder to get calls than actually make plays. At times he looked (for lack of a better word) pathetic.

But with that being said, if he can be totally healthy (which is an anomaly for Wade in and of itself), he'll easily be a top 5-7 player and right with Kobe for best SG in the league. SG is also a pretty weak position after those two as well :oldlol:

[swi7ch]

I think he will have another one of those years where he re places himself in the top 3 category (never fell out of top 5). I expect somewhere around

25.5ppg, 6rpg, 6apg, 2stl, 1.5blk, 51%fg

Yes, he'll magically revert back to his old form even though he's older and just came back from injury. Fountain of youth right here boys and girls.

Did you not take science in school? Athletes change as they get older and as they recover from injuries. That's how the body works, not the other way around.

[2swift4u]

depends mostly on his health and his jumper imo. both was hurting his game last season. However he had some good games when he was rested so I think he can still be one of the top guards in the league if his body is fine.

[Nash]

24 ppg

[longtime lurker]

See Tmac in the Houston years for reference.

[CarlosBoozer]

22ppg 5apg 50%

[HiphopRelated]

25/5/5 50%

His minutes were just limited last year because it was a condensed season. His actual production was still in line with the usual. He's in the ring business not the stat business now anyway.

[jlip]

Considering the fact that Wade himself has come out and declared many times that Lebron is clearly the #1 option on the team now, I wouldn't expect him to avg. any more than 24ppg, let alone lead the Heat in scoring. 23/5/4 is basically what we should expect from him this season.

[pegasus]

Shinny coat, less shedding, and a lot less barking at the refs hopefully.

[Jacks3]

Hmmm.

31 years old.

10th season.

Nowhere near the athlete he once was.

Knee surgery.

Mediocre shooter.

I'd say 22/5/4/56% TS with 10+ games missed.

[kennethgriffin]

Hmmm.

31 years old.

10th season.

Nowhere near the athlete he once was.

Knee surgery.

Mediocre shooter.

I'd say 22/5/4/56% TS with 10+ games missed.


:applause:

[BlackVVaves]

Yes, he'll magically revert back to his old form even though he's older and just came back from injury. Fountain of youth right here boys and girls.

Did you not take science in school? Athletes change as they get older and as they recover from injuries. That's how the body works, not the other way around.

Don't bother trying to rationalize with him, kid can't even construct a simple sentence using proper grammar, so school may be a foreign entity to him.

"fukk outa herr nygga you dumb Kobe never averaged 47%, forget that he's averaged 46.7 and 46.8 and rounding it, like all people who assess stats do, equates 47%. fukk that shyt Wade is god ju heard, he putting up his 'CAREER AVERAGES' despite nearing 32, playing with the best player in the league, and a team with more shooters he's ever played with. Nygga fukk reality!"

:oldlol: Dumbass.

[kennethgriffin]

Don't bother trying to rationalize with him, kid can't even construct a simple sentence using proper grammar, so school may be a foreign entity to him.

"fukk outa herr nygga you dumb Kobe never averaged 47%, forget that he's averaged 46.7 and 46.8 and rounding it, like all people who assess stats do, equates 47%. fukk that shyt Wade is god ju heard, he putting up his 'CAREER AVERAGES' despite nearing 32, playing with the best player in the league, and a team with more shooters he's ever played with. Nygga fukk reality!"

:oldlol: Dumbass.


i still cant believe people fail to realise that the more shots someone takes outside and the more threes someone attempts their fg% will go down.

high volume outside shooters that score around 30ppg throughout history have always been around 45-46%

ray allen, rick barry... some of the best shooters ever are consistantly around that.

guys like wade, lebron, jordan almost rarely if ever take a contested outside shot. they shoot when theyre dared to shoot

most of their threes are the last option in their game

kobes 3's are sometimes the 1st option.. even if theyre over 2-3 guys. he does it because nobody effects his shot since its as wild and as much like a fade or leaning midrange shot as the other guys midrange game...

but for wade, lebron and jordan. their three pointers are verry much like set shots. they need room to shoot them.

[BlackVVaves]

@ the 14 year old named Kennethgriffey:

Kobe's threes are ill-advised, as are a good chunk of his shots in general. I don't want to hear about why Jordan, Bron, or Wade take uncontested threes.

They take simplier shots because (outside of Jordan) their jump shot sucks and vying for lay-ups 80% of the time is the only way to compensate for that.

The end result is still efficiency, and two points are two points regardless on how you get them.

The sooner Kobe realizes this, the better he'll help his team.

[Jacks3]

Yeah, because a guys with 5 rings and 7 Finals needs advice on how to help his teams. :lol

And Kobe's efficiency is as good as Wade

[detroitdogg]

Don't bother trying to rationalize with him, kid can't even construct a simple sentence using proper grammar, so school may be a foreign entity to him.

"fukk outa herr nygga you dumb Kobe never averaged 47%, forget that he's averaged 46.7 and 46.8 and rounding it, like all people who assess stats do, equates 47%. fukk that shyt Wade is god ju heard, he putting up his 'CAREER AVERAGES' despite nearing 32, playing with the best player in the league, and a team with more shooters he's ever played with. Nygga fukk reality!"

:oldlol: Dumbass.
First off, shut the fukk up. My education is fine bytch, what the fukk you mean "you cant rationalize with me", if someone is spreading bullshyt I will call it out (in a complete statement and actually speaking on why I disagree or agree with whatever debate). I dont post shyt for the fukk of it or for internet credit, I dont give a fukk about none of you nyggas, at all.

Read shyt you fukk nygga, everything I constructed was a complete sentence and focused on the topic, I dont give a fukk if you cant understand the slang I used; I cant understand how you can mistake anything I wrote for an incomplete/run on/fragment sentence though, if you see any of those mistakes then you dont know shyt about how to construct a complete sentence/paragraph cause I make sure my shyt is wrote out correctly. So once again, I dont give a fukk if you cant understand slang, my sentences and paragraphs are constructed correctly you hoe ass nygga.

[detroitdogg]

Yeah, because a guys with 5 rings and 7 Finals needs advice on how to help his teams. :lol

And Kobe's efficiency is as good as Wade
:biggums: Nygga, stop lying, Kobe has never been 2.5% close to Wade let alone "just as efficient", fukk outta here nygga.

[BlackVVaves]

First off, shut the fukk up. My education is fine bytch, what the fukk you mean "you cant rationalize with me", if someone is spreading bullshyt I will call it out (in a complete statement and actually speaking on why I disagree or agree with whatever debate). I dont post shyt for the fukk of it or for internet credit, I dont give a fukk about none of you nyggas, at all.

Read shyt you fukk nygga, everything I constructed was a complete sentence and focused on the topic, I dont give a fukk if you cant understand the slang I used; I cant understand how you can mistake anything I wrote for an incomplete/run on/fragment sentence though, if you see any of those mistakes then you dont know shyt about how to construct a complete sentence/paragraph cause I make sure my shyt is wrote out correctly. So once again, I dont give a fukk if you cant understand slang, my sentences and paragraphs are constructed correctly you hoe ass nygga.

:roll:

[Jacks3]

:biggums: Nygga, stop lying, Kobe has never been 2.5% close to Wade let alone "just as efficient", fukk outta here nygga.

Their TS% during their prime years is pretty much equal.

Kobe is actually more efficient at his peak:

03 Kobe: 30 PPG/55% TS (+3.2 relative to league average)
09 Wade:30 PPG/57% TS (+3.1 relative to league average)


Now you'll bring up some garbage about how FG% is the only thing that matters.

:facepalm

[detroitdogg]

Their TS% during their prime years is pretty much equal.

Kobe is actually more efficient at his peak:

03 Kobe: 30 PPG/55% TS (+3.2 relative to league average)
09 Wade:30 PPG/57% TS (+3.1 relative to league average)


Now you'll bring up some garbage about how FG% is the only thing that matters.

:facepalm
LMAO at 2 percentage points being "just as efficient", but Wades scoring drops 2 points and now dude is on a decline, not even factoring in 3 less minutes and 3 less shots per game. You cant have it both ways nygga.

[Jacks3]

What are you talking about? He was MORE efficient.

Did you miss this part:

(+3.2 relative to league average)
(+3.1 relative to league average)

The raw TS% doesn't really matter. Kobe played in a much tougher defensive environment.

[Jolokia]

24 PPG
6.0 RPG
6.0 APG
1.5 SPG
1.0 BPG
2.5 TOPG

52/32/81

Most efficient Wade ever or

21 PPG
5 RPG
5 APG
1.5 SPG
1.0 BPG
3.0 TOPG

48/30/78

Second team All-NBA. All depending on his jumpshot. Better the jumpshot = less driving = less energy consumed = less prone to injury

[Ikill]

Hmmm.

31 years old.

10th season.

Nowhere near the athlete he once was.

Knee surgery.

Mediocre shooter.

I'd say 22/5/4/56% TS with 10+ games missed.
in 2011 he was still at his athletic peak and he was still at his athletic peak before getting injured this year. Lebron is even further away from his athletic peak than Wade

[KyrieTheFuture]

Why are people comparing peak Wade and peak Kobe? This thread asked about a current Dwyane Wade those stats are all meaningless

[Jacks3]

in 2011 he was still at his athletic peak and he was still at his athletic peak before getting injured this year. Lebron is even further away from his athletic peak than Wade
You must have been watching a different Wade. He was noticeably slower/less explosive in 2011/2012 compared to 06 or 09 from what I saw. I expect he'll lost yet another step after the knee surgery.

LeBron is a much better shooter than Wade, much more durable, so his declining athleticism doesn't mean as much.

[fpliii]

MVP-caliber season

:lebronamazed:

though that can't happen, for obvious reasons

[Dictator]

:roll: :roll: :roll: The Delusional Wade stan at it again. Why on earth should LeBron defer to a lesser player and worse scorer?:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm Wade is the sidekick, if you don't like it, then tough.

Spoken like a true Lebron fan.

[Optimus Prime]

Considering injuries impacted his performance this year, I expect even more whining and flopping than usual. Cue the "Et tu, Joey?" image please!

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lywfy9Wgrx1rock8jo1_400.png

...I kid, I kid...kind of.

:kobe:

[Crown&Coke]

Wade said earlier this offseason that he had one of the best mid-range games in the NBA, I think he's got a legit point. His midrange game is pretty stellar considering the lack of midrange games in the entire NBA today.

Healthy Wade=Beast

no two ways about it.

But I think his numbers will dip a little because they are going to go the Nashty Sun's route. Drive hard to the hole, and kick out for open 3's all game with all their additions. I think both Wade and Shuttlesworth need to have their minutes monitored a little

[LakersReign]

MVP-caliber season

:lebronamazed:

though that can't happen, for obvious reasons

It won't and even IF Wade were to have better numbers than Lebron, we already know Lebron will still get the MVP anyway. That's why Lebron fans aka Lebronytes could really care less about Wade. Their biggest fear is that he's healthy, and puts up great numbers, therefore taking away some MVP votes from Lebron.

[fpliii]

It won't and even IF Wade were to have better numbers than Lebron, we already know Lebron will still get the MVP anyway. That's why Lebron fans aka Lebronytes could really care less about Wade. Their biggest fear is that he's healthy, and puts up great numbers, therefore taking away some MVP votes from Lebron.

lol can't let a Wade fan dream bro? :cry:

that 09 MVP snub still burns though (not that LeBron didn't have a case, but I think DWade had it that season)

do you really think LeBron wins this season? I feel like regardless of what happens, it's going to Dwight/KD this season...no way the media gives LeBron a 4th next season

[LakersReign]

lol can't let a Wade fan dream bro? :cry:

that 09 MVP snub still burns though (not that LeBron didn't have a case, but I think DWade had it that season)

do you really think LeBron wins this season? I feel like regardless of what happens, it's going to Dwight/KD this season...no way the media gives LeBron a 4th next season

I used to admire Wade back in 05-'06, he's a totally different player now. MVP is purely media driven, so unless Lebron commits first degree murder, he'll more than likely get it again. The stage is set for his "Jordan" narative, so they'll continue to push that agenda. I do agree with Howard/KD since both have something to prove from last year. But I still doubt they'll get it.

[Papaya Petee]

If Wade takes his recovery as seriously as during the 08-09 season, he should have 2011-2012 numbers easily, would be better if not for his stacked team.

25 PPG 6 RPG 5 APG 50% shooting.

[fpliii]

I used to admire Wade back in 05-'06, he's a totally different player now. MVP is purely media driven, so unless Lebron commits first degree murder, he'll more than likely get it again. The stage is set for his "Jordan" narative, so they'll continue to push that agenda. I do agree with Howard/KD since both have something to prove from last year. But I still doubt they'll get it.

there's also chance Rose wins (Chicago/return from injury narrative)...I don't have a *huge* problem with him winning (though Dirk, Dwight, and possibly LeBron also had a case), but it would be an historical farce if he wins twice

MVPs and other awards (all-NBA, DPOY, all-stars...Finals MVPs are borderline, though all-defense isn't *as* bad as it could be since coaches vote, but you need to take both in context) don't really interest me for the most part, I can form my own opinions of players

[COnDEMnED]

First off, shut the fukk up. My education is fine bytch, what the fukk you mean "you cant rationalize with me", if someone is spreading bullshyt I will call it out (in a complete statement and actually speaking on why I disagree or agree with whatever debate). I dont post shyt for the fukk of it or for internet credit, I dont give a fukk about none of you nyggas, at all.

Read shyt you fukk nygga, everything I constructed was a complete sentence and focused on the topic, I dont give a fukk if you cant understand the slang I used; I cant understand how you can mistake anything I wrote for an incomplete/run on/fragment sentence though, if you see any of those mistakes then you dont know shyt about how to construct a complete sentence/paragraph cause I make sure my shyt is wrote out correctly. So once again, I dont give a fukk if you cant understand slang, my sentences and paragraphs are constructed correctly you hoe ass nygga.
Holy Grammatical Errors, Batman!!

[coin24]

If wade is healthy and wants to be the man again, more power to him:rockon:
Then lebron becomes facilitator again and it'll be an easy sweep for the lakers:lol

Best mid range? Good one wade:oldlol: maybe 5 years ago. This guy bricks everything, if it wasn't for dunks/layups his fg% would be atrocious. Lebron is a better shooter and he's streaky as fu*k.

[Vragrant]

Wade will be fine.

His jumper was bad last year during the playoffs, but how can you shoot jumpshots on an injured knee? If anybody saw the ESPN Sunday conversation with Wade after the Finals, he said he did not even practice between games during the playoffs. He mentioned he and the Heat medical staff worked on the knee between games just to make sure his knee was good enough so he could even play during the games. Wade was about 60% of what he was in the Finals.

If you looked at the games he was healthy last year there is quite a difference.

Wade 41pts game 6 vs Pacers (when his knee had time to heal after it was drained)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfWCVEDwE5I

Wade vs Portland 33 pts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIjAYPHN-Qw

Wade vs Orlando 33pts 3blks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QJJrw7xLLA&feature=related

Wade will be fine next year. Besides Wade is too cunning and savvy to have a dramatic dropoff in play. Contrary to popular belief he does not soley rely on athleticism.

[LakersReign]

there's also chance Rose wins (Chicago/return from injury narrative)...I don't have a *huge* problem with him winning (though Dirk, Dwight, and possibly LeBron also had a case), but it would be an historical farce if he wins twice

MVPs and other awards (all-NBA, DPOY, all-stars...Finals MVPs are borderline, though all-defense isn't *as* bad as it could be since coaches vote, but you need to take both in context) don't really interest me for the most part, I can form my own opinions of players

Yeah, I kinda forgot about Rose. He has something to prove this upcoming season as well. MVP is solely media driven, whomever is popular at the time, usually wins it. If you're a real fan of the game, you should be able to form your own opinions of players, independent of whatever the media says about them. If Rose/Howard/KD have the numbers next season, they should win it. The historical farce would be if they do, but Lebron still wins.

[PJR]

Wade will be fine next year. Besides Wade is too cunning and savvy to have a dramatic dropoff in play. Contrary to popular belief he does not soley rely on athleticism.

Truer words have never been spoken. But let the gumps believe otherwise...

[detroitdogg]

Truer words have never been spoken. But let the gumps believe otherwise...
Yes........ Dude has more "moves" than anyone in the league, how this shyt is ignored is beyond me. Its like, dudes choose to completely ignore the hours worth of highlights based off dribble moves and finishes Wade has. Not all those moves require prime athleticism. Internet nyggas are some retarded mothafukkas.

[RRR3]

Spoken like a true Lebron fan.
Maybe, but it's ridiculous to suggest Wade should be the first option. Teams would be thrilled if that happened. Wade's still a great player, but LeBron is the 2nd best scorer in the NBA, and number 1 is Durant, not Wade. And LeBron is the best offensive player overall in the NBA. Furthermore, he's a better passer and playmaker than wade, passes out of double teams better, and can actually get hot from outside.

[fpliii]

Yeah, I kinda forgot about Rose. He has something to prove this upcoming season as well. MVP is solely media driven, whomever is popular at the time, usually wins it. If you're a real fan of the game, you should be able to form your own opinions of players, independent of whatever the media says about them. If Rose/Howard/KD have the numbers next season, they should win it. The historical farce would be if they do, but Lebron still wins.

good stuff, I agree for the most part (I just don't think the media will want to give LeBron a 4th at 28) :cheers:


Maybe, but it's ridiculous to suggest Wade should be the first option. Teams would be thrilled if that happened. Wade's still a great player, but LeBron is the 2nd best scorer in the NBA, and number 1 is Durant, not Wade. And LeBron is the best offensive player overall in the NBA. Furthermore, he's a better passer and playmaker than wade, passes out of double teams better, and can actually get hot from outside.

well, two questions:

(1) are we talking a healthy Wade here?
(2) if 1 is yes, what exactly is a healthy Wade going forward?

[longtime lurker]

Rofl people expect Dwyane Wade to put up 26 points when at his peak playing with Lebron he was putting up 25 a game :oldlol: now getting older, coming off knee surgery with Miami adding another scoring option he's going to jump back up? :roll: :roll: Man you Wade homers are something else. It's a sad state of affairs for the SG position when the 2 best are a 34 year old vet and a one trick pony

[LakersReign]

good stuff, I agree for the most part (I just don't think the media will want to give LeBron a 4th at 28) :cheers:

I disagree. After the Game 6 in Boston, ESPN Radio started rambling on and on and on about how great Lebron is. How he's supposedly "turned the corner" into Jordan status....blah blah blah blah. It's cuz of all that why i still believe that they'll give him a 4th MVP. Howard/Rose/KD will have to each have one hell of a season to blow Lebron out of the water with MVP votes. We have to wait and see how it all pans out. But, again, since MVP is a media award, and they're all still high on Lebron like they have been for the last 5 years, I highly doubt those guys will get it over him.