#47 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops

[Deuce Bigalow]

Bob McAdoo was voted the #46 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops.

22.1 PPG | 9.4 RPG | 2.3 APG

2x NBA Champion
NBA Most Valuable Player
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[StateOfMind12]

Paul "Top 50 player of all-time, top 10 SF of all-time" Pierce.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Paul "Top 50 player of all-time, top 10 SF of all-time" Pierce.
State of "RG's" Mind

[1987_Lakers]

Dwight Howard
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5x All-NBA First Team
4x All-NBA Defensive First Team
3x Defensive Player of the Year
Finished Top 5 in the MVP voting 4 times
Led Orlando to the NBA Finals in 2009

[Freedom Kid7]

Paul "Top 50 of all-time" Pierce

[dyna]

Dominique Wilkins

[RRR3]

D12

[Deuce Bigalow]

I'll go with Nique

[MiamiThrice]

Dwight Howard
http://www.wallpapersd.com/media/images/8a48b7d12e.jpg
-Led 2009 Magic to the NBA Finals
-6x NBA Allstar
-3x DPOY
-3rd Best player in the NBA in 2009 and 2010 after LeBron, Wade
-4x all nba defensive 1st team
-5x All NBA 1st team
-1x All Nba 2nd team
-Best player on the 2012-2013 Lakers
-1 Gold Medal
-18.4 PPG 13.0 RPG 2.2 BPG Career Averages

[SourPatchKids]

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[ScalabrineStan]

Paul "Top 50 of all-time" Pierce

[Boston C's]

nique for me here

[coin24]

Dwight.. GTFOH with pierce:facepalm :facepalm

[WockaVodka]

Paul Pierce, Dwight would be next though. His career is not on par with PP's yet.

[L.Kizzle]

Gervin and Wilkins >> Pierce

[1987_Lakers]

Gervin and Wilkins >> Pierce

This.

I don't understand all of these Pierce votes.

[Young X]

Dominique Wilkins

[1987_Lakers]

Paul Pierce, Dwight would be next though. His career is not on par with PP's yet.

Dwight already has more individual awards than Pierce.

[WockaVodka]

Dwight already has more individual awards than Pierce.
So what? He hasn't sustained his great play as long as Pierce has though. Dwight peaked higher but Pierce has peaked longer.

[Legends66NBA7]

I'd agree with Howard over Pierce too, even now.

But it does interest me as to where Nate Thurmond would rank, if Dwight is getting a strong consideration for rank #47.

[L.Kizzle]

So what? He hasn't sustained his great play as long as Pierce has though. Dwight peaked higher but Pierce has peaked longer.
What's your reasoning for Pierce over Gervin and Wilkins? Both peaked higher and equal or longer periods of time?

[1987_Lakers]

So what? He hasn't sustained his great play as long as Pierce has though. Dwight peaked higher but Pierce has peaked longer.

He has peaked longer because Howard is still young obviously.

Howard - 5 All-NBA First Teams
Pierce - 0

Howard - 4 All-NBA Defensive First Teams | 3 Time DPOY
Pierce - 0 | 0

Howard - Top 5 in MVP voting 4 times
Pierce - 0

Howard is clearly on another level as player and he has played long enough for me to rank him ahead of Pierce. Reggie Miller peaked longer than Bill Walton, but nobody ranks Miller ahead of him.

[WockaVodka]

What's your reasoning for Pierce over Gervin and Wilkins? Both peaked higher and equal or longer periods of time?
he is better especially Gervin who was super one-dimensional.

[1987_Lakers]

he is better especially Gervin who was super one-dimensional.

Iverson was one-dimensional too. Would you rank Pierce ahead of him?

[WockaVodka]

Iverson was one-dimensional too. Would you rank Pierce ahead of him?
Iverson was not as one-dimensional as Gervin, but I probably would though. Iverson being at #36 is a joke. He shouldn't be ahead of Dwight either.

[Fudge]

Why do you post on your WockaVodka account, RG? I mean at least don't make it blatantly obvious. :oldlol: OP should minus a vote off Pierce when the voting is done.

I vote for Dominique.

[Legends66NBA7]

Iverson was one-dimensional too. Would you rank Pierce ahead of him?

Iverson wasn't one-dimensional and I would rank him over Pierce, anyways. He was regarded as the better player during their primes.

[Freedom Kid7]

I can't vote for Dwight because I feel his career isn't done yet and I don't think he's peaked yet.

[fsvr54]

My main man Nique!!!!!!!!! Greatest Atlanta Hawk of all time (Pettit is the greatest Hawk)

[L.Kizzle]

he is better especially Gervin who was super one-dimensional.
You make it seem like Pierce was a Scottie Pippen clone or something.

Gervin is better. As is Nique, Cunningham, Worthy and a few other.

[Fudge]

RG, do you think Pierce is a point-forward? :oldlol:

[WockaVodka]

You make it seem like Pierce was a Scottie Pippen clone or something.

Gervin is better. As is Nique, Cunningham, Worthy and a few other.
Pierce is a Scottie Pippen clone compared to Gervin, yes. What is Gervin better than Pierce at? Scoring? So do the other aspects not matter? It's not like Pierce was a slouch of a scorer, 27 ppg with very good efficiency.

No point in arguing with you, most people have outlined you as the biggest Pierce hater on here. Don't you have Reggie above Pierce? I think that alone says what I need to know.

[L.Kizzle]

Pierce is a Scottie Pippen clone compared to Gervin, yes. What is Gervin better than Pierce at? Scoring? So do the other aspects not matter? It's not like Pierce was a slouch of a scorer, 27 ppg with very good efficiency.

No point in arguing with you, most people have outlined you as the biggest Pierce hater on here. Don't you have Reggie above Pierce? I think that alone says what I need to know.
Pierce career assist 3.8 to Gervin's 2.6
Pierce career boards 6 to Gervin's 5.3
Pierce career high assist 5.1 to Gervin's 3.7
Pierce career high boards 6.9 to Gervin's career high boards 8.4

Gervin is no worse than a Kevin Durant type, and everyone will take Durant over Pierce.

[1987_Lakers]

Pierce is a Scottie Pippen clone compared to Gervin, yes. What is Gervin better than Pierce at? Scoring? So do the other aspects not matter? It's not like Pierce was a slouch of a scorer, 27 ppg with very good efficiency.

No point in arguing with you, most people have outlined you as the biggest Pierce hater on here. Don't you have Reggie above Pierce? I think that alone says what I need to know.

To be fair Gervin did have a few years where he averaged 1.5 spg & 1 bpg in the same season, I do agree that he was ultimately a one-dimensional player, but a pretty damn good one. Best scorer in the league for a number of years, actually led the NBA in scoring 4 times on very good efficiency. One of the All-time great scorers.

Gervin also had numerous All-NBA First team selections and was top 5 in the mvp numerous of times, something Pierce has never been able to do.

Gervin was also 1 game away from leading his team to the Finals in 1979.
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[WockaVodka]

Pierce career assist 3.8 to Gervin's 2.6
Pierce career boards 6 to Gervin's 5.3
Pierce career high assist 5.1 to Gervin's 3.7
Pierce career high boards 6.9 to Gervin's career high boards 8.4

Gervin is no worse than a Kevin Durant type, and everyone will take Durant over Pierce.
Funny, how all of Gervin's career highs were never close to one another. The years he put up high rebound numbers were years he put up lower scoring and assist numbers and vice versa. Pierce put it together in his prime and in his peak.

Like I said, Gervin was not better than Pierce at anything other than scoring. Gervin was just a 30 ppg guy, that was it, he couldn't get you a lot of rebounds nor could he get you a lot of assists, Pierce could. Gervin couldn't defend as well either.

[WockaVodka]

Gervin also had numerous All-NBA First team selections and was top 5 in the mvp numerous of times, something Pierce has never been able to do.
It kind of helps playing in like the weakest era of the NBA while Pierce played in one of the tougher eras.

[Fudge]

It kind of helps playing in like the weakest era of the NBA while Pierce played in one of the tougher eras.
WEAK ERA, TOUGH ERA. :roll:

[Boston C's]

It kind of helps playing in like the weakest era of the NBA while Pierce played in one of the tougher eras.

yea totally says the same guy who would vote in dwight after...but you know dwight's competition is so stiff today :facepalm

the fact is even if gervins era was weak (I'm not sold on that) I learned you can't fault a player for dominating his peers...so you can't use the whole "weak era" nonsense on gervin

the fact is gervins accomplishments surpass pierces plain and simple...pierces time will come soon in this thread just not now

[Fudge]

RG, do you think Pierce is a point-forward? :oldlol:..

[1987_Lakers]

It kind of helps playing in like the weakest era of the NBA while Pierce played in one of the tougher eras.

There were years during Pierce's prime where he couldn't make All-NBA teams over guys like Peja, J. Oneal, S. Marion, & E. Brand. Gervin one year made the All-NBA First team over Magic Johnson himself.

[WockaVodka]

There were years during Pierce's prime where he couldn't make All-NBA teams over guys like Peja, J. Oneal, S. Marion, & E. Brand. Gervin one year made the All-NBA First team over Magic Johnson himself.
Ok, well like I said, I would go with Pierce because he was better all-around and media awards don't mean much to me, any media award really, not just All-NBA teams.

Where do you have Pierce ranked out of curiosity, in your perosnall all time list?

[L.Kizzle]

Funny, how all of Gervin's career highs were never close to one another. The years he put up high rebound numbers were years he put up lower scoring and assist numbers and vice versa. Pierce put it together in his prime and in his peak.

Like I said, Gervin was not better than Pierce at anything other than scoring. Gervin was just a 30 ppg guy, that was it, he couldn't get you a lot of rebounds nor could he get you a lot of assists, Pierce could. Gervin couldn't defend as well either.
If you said just a 20 ppg guy, then I would agree with you. How many players have avg over 30 ppg in NBA History, not a lot.

Wilt
Elgin
Pettit
Oscar
West
Bellamy
Twyman
Barry
Kareem
Tiny Archibald
McAdoo
King
Dantley
Wilkins
Jordan
M. Malone
K. Malone
Iverson
Kobe
McGrady
LeBron
Durant

Than the list get's cut way in half for he guys (like him) who did it multiple times. Then, he went on to win four scoring titles at it. Only Wilt and MJ have more. Then he went on to make countless All-NBA 1st teams. He has more 1st teams than PP has all of his 3rd and 2nd teams combined.

[Legends66NBA7]

Gervin one year made the All-NBA First team over Magic Johnson himself.

Huh ?

Gervin made All-NBA First Team 5 years in a row, 3 of them being in Magic's first 3 years. Magic's First team was All-NBA SECOND Team in 1982, the last time Gervin made an All-NBA First Team.

I think you can say Gus Williams made All-NBA team over Magic, but Gervin was already established.

[L.Kizzle]

Ok, well like I said, I would go with Pierce because he was better all-around and media awards don't mean much to me, any media award really, not just All-NBA teams.

Where do you have Pierce ranked out of curiosity, in your perosnall all time list?
Come on man. If Pierce had like 7 All-NBA 1st teams, you know you'd bring that up to the discussion but since he doesn't have any, it doesn't mean anything.

His all-around talent is not that great for it to even be up for discussion. He's only been a 20/5/5 player once the same number of times as Michael Finley.

I mean, yeah, he's better all around than Gervin, but by how much really?

[coin24]

Durant>pierce..

[DaHeezy]

You make it seem like Pierce was a Scottie Pippen clone or something.

Gervin is better. As is Nique, Cunningham, Worthy and a few other.

I agree. If the celtics never had Garnett and Allen Peirce may have very well been the modern day Alex English

[G.O.A.T]

Dwight Howard is the choice here I still think.

[Legends66NBA7]

Dwight Howard is the choice here I still think.

Would you say Dwight Howard vs Nate Thurmond is a good debate at this moment ?

[G.O.A.T]

Would you say Dwight Howard vs Nate Thurmond is a good debate at this moment ?

A very good one.

I give Dwight the edge for more individual accolades, however Thurmond's timing makes it quite a debate. The league was inundated with centers during Nate's era as oppose to the dearth of big men today.

[Deuce Bigalow]

#47 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops Voting

7- Dominique Wilkins
6- Dwight Howard
3- Paul Pierce
2- George Gervin

[arifgokcen]

I am gonna go with howard on this one too.His defensive presence is unmatched.

[Duncan21formvp]

Dominique Wilkins

[JellyBean]

Bob McAdoo over Iceman Gervin? :confusedshrug:

I am throwing my man, George Gervin back out there again. Ice has to be in the top 50. It is just disrespectful that Dominique Wilkins is not in the top 30. Letting those two (Wilkins and Ice) fall out of the top 50 is just shameful. I mean for crying out loud we have Bill Walton and Bob McAdoo in before Ice and Dominique. Come on now.