BREAKING NEWS: Rasheed Wallace agrees to sign with Knicks

[bluechox2]

Updated October 3:

Rasheed Wallace is old. His career seemed over. He’s brash and outspoken. But he was also a damn good player who knows the game. And now he’s officially a member of the New York Knicks.

Knicks Executive Vice President, Basketball Operations and General Manager Glen Grunwald announced today that the team has signed the free agent forward/center to a contract.



Read more: http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/#ixzz28GHTyCGV

[Legends66NBA7]

http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/47660_o.gif

[Math2]

:lol Good luck, Knicks.

[coin24]

Should've signed KMart or Birdman instead:facepalm

[Silenttristo]

Rasheed Wallace, at 38, is only the 4th oldest player on the Knicks.

[ripthekik]

Rasheed Wallace, at 38, is only the 4th oldest player on the Knicks.
:roll:

[b1imtf]

Rasheed Wallace, at 38, is only the 4th oldest player on the Knicks.
:lol :lol :lol :lol

[MJ(Mean John)]

Depending on what shape he's in (knowing sheed, he was out of shape in hislast few years.lol) he won't be binging much outside of his savy leadership and a tough as shit mentality. The defensive "I'm going to f.uck you up" bad boy flavor.

I like it. Knicks need it.

[DCL]

too broke to stay retired?

[Bigsmoke]

OMG retire already

[SacJB Shady]

how is this breaking news?

[JohnnySic]

ball dont lie

[bagelred]

Let's see: a 38 year old head case that's washed up. Seems about right.






:facepalm

[Real Men Wear Green]

He should be solid for 10-15 minutes of D off the bench. After they get Shumpert back with Woodson's emphasis and Chandler leading the way they should be a serious defensive team. The only downside is that they need to reign him in from shooting threes or else his net effect will be 0.

[bagelred]

This is going to cut into Novak's playing time. :rant

[OmniStrife]

The NBA is not ready!!! :lol

[bluechox2]

i like this huge defensive 2nd unit we have

kidd
brewer/shumpert
jr
sheed
camby

[bluechox2]

@NYPost_Berman: Rasheed Wallace tells Woodson he's ready, will officially become Knick as soon as Monday

[BankShot]

Stoudemire - Wallace - Chandler - Camby - Thomas

Imagine this frontcourt 8 years ago. :eek:

[All Net]

Thought he was older than 38...

[bluechox2]

last season

we started off as

douglas
fields
melo
amare
tyson

bench

bibby
jefffries
shumpert
walker
balkman

this season

felton
brewer
melo
amare
tyson

bench

kidd
shumpert
JR
novak
camby
wallace
prigoni
thomas

i expect good things and a huge improvement now with extended veteran help

[swi7ch]

So they have a 40 year old PG in Kidd and now a 40 year old big man in 'sheed! Go Knicks! Go get that time machine! :facepalm Who's next---Allan Houston? Charles Oakley? Ewing? Willis Reed?

[dunksby]

Them Knicks lookin scary :dancin

[Rekindled]

damn sheed and kurt thomas same team?

crazy guy and crazy eye:coleman:

[Real Men Wear Green]

Kurt Thomas is still in the NBA?

[EnoughSaid]

:roll: Will love seeing Sheed back in the NBA, but wow the Knicks are a joke! Not getting out of the first round once again...

[bagelred]

So they have a 40 year old PG in Kidd and now a 40 year old big man in 'sheed! Go Knicks! Go get that time machine! :facepalm Who's next---Allan Houston? Charles Oakley? Ewing? Willis Reed?

Although I hate the Wallace signing for many reasons.....you do realize that all their "old" players are backups, right?

[el gringos]

The perfect player for what the Knicks need- a perfect match at pf for Carmelo's inside game. If only he were in his prime- but pretty sweet anyway


Why would anyone assume that a team with terrible floor spacing problems when Carmelo and amare are together would start Ronnie brewer at sg over jr smith?

[BrickingStar]

This is going to cut into Novak's playing time. :rant
as it should novak is garbage outside of 3 pt shooting

[DStebb716]

am i the only one happy about this? will be a good small minutes guy who can maybe get in the opponents head a little.

[Mr. I'm So Rad]

Sheed trying to secure his record of most technical fouls.

[bagelred]

as it should novak is garbage outside of 3 pt shooting

:roll: Yes, outside of making every open shot he ever takes......he's not that good. :hammerhead: Actually his defense is perfectly fine.......

His +/- last year was very good. That's the type of garbage I like......:cheers:

[NewYorkNoPicks]

Alot of simpletons on this board who dont realize what teams are supposed to do when theyre in win now mode.

Getting young talent is great but lets be real here, when your goal is to get as far as possible in the playoffs you dot have time to babysit and mentor potential based young kids.

Who would you rather have running your team in the 4th quarter: 39 year old hall of famer Jason Kidd or 23 year old bust Jonny Flynn???

And ill enjoy 38 year old Rasheed shutting down bonehead neophytes like Andray Blatche

[swi7ch]

Although I hate the Wallace signing for many reasons.....you do realize that all their "old" players are backups, right?

Yeah, backups who won't do anything! So what's the point? Might as well sign Oakley too or Ewing since they can also be backups (who won't do anything).

[Real Men Wear Green]

Alot of simpletons on this board who dont realize what teams are supposed to do when theyre in win now mode.

Getting young talent is great but lets be real here, when your goal is to get as far as possible in the playoffs you dot have time to babysit and mentor potential based young kids.

Who would you rather have running your team in the 4th quarter: 39 year old hall of famer Jason Kidd or 23 year old bust Jonny Flynn???

And ill enjoy 38 year old Rasheed shutting down bonehead neophytes like Andray BlatcheWin what "now?" NY isn't even the best team in their division, much less conference.

[longtime lurker]

Alot of simpletons on this board who dont realize what teams are supposed to do when theyre in win now mode.

Getting young talent is great but lets be real here, when your goal is to get as far as possible in the playoffs you dot have time to babysit and mentor potential based young kids.

Who would you rather have running your team in the 4th quarter: 39 year old hall of famer Jason Kidd or 23 year old bust Jonny Flynn???

And ill enjoy 38 year old Rasheed shutting down bonehead neophytes like Andray Blatche

Errr I don't know about all this. Win now doesn't mean getting the oldest vets available. I mean I like the Camby pick up, Kidd is questionable but still good. But the Rasheed Wallace pickup is about 5 years too late. He hasn't been in the league for the past two years and his work ethic was never the best to begin with. What do the Knicks really expect?

[bagelred]

Yeah, backups who won't do anything! So what's the point? .

I think Rasheed Wallace might be done. And not sure about Kurt Thomas, who is just hanging on at this point. But you think Camby, Kidd, JR Smith, Novak, and eventually Shumpert/Brewer (whichever goes to bench), can't "do anything" off the bench? Really?

Take off the "I hate everything Knicks" glasses.

[NewYorkNoPicks]

Errr I don't know about all this. Win now doesn't mean getting the oldest vets available. I mean I like the Camby pick up, Kidd is questionable but still good. But the Rasheed Wallace pickup is about 5 years too late. He hasn't been in the league for the past two years and his work ethic was never the best to begin with. What do the Knicks really expect?

Im in complete agreement with everyone that the Knicks championship expectations are overreaching, we probably have a 5% chance. The roster is flawed big time and Amares loss of athleticism is mainly responsible. In fact at this point id probably move Amare for Carlos Boozer even.

I digress, although we probably wont win a title we are locked into immovable contracts through 2016 so we might as well go all in and hope for some misfortune on the part of our rivals to maybe increase our chances.

Also, the free agent barrel is near barren so what other options did we really have? We picked from what was available for the minimum. We needed a backup for Amare anyway and Wallace was always a top level post defender, could mix it up in the high or low post and create his own shot. That to me is better than Kenyon Martin whos production has rapidly declined an has no offensive game to speak of

[longtime lurker]

Im in complete agreement with everyone that the Knicks championship expectations are overreaching, we probably have a 5% chance. The roster is flawed big time and Amares loss of athleticism is mainly responsible. In fact at this point id probably move Amare for Carlos Boozer even.

I digress, although we probably wont win a title we are locked into immovable contracts through 2016 so we might as well go all in and hope for some misfortune on the part of our rivals to maybe increase our chances.

Also, the free agent barrel is near barren so what other options did we really have? We picked from what was available for the minimum. We needed a backup for Amare anyway and Wallace was always a top level post defender, could mix it up in the high or low post and create his own shot. That to me is better than Kenyon Martin whos production has rapidly declined an has no offensive game to speak of

I wouldn't wish that fate on no fan. The Knicks have had a great offseason and I agree to a certain extent that they won't win a championship. Their roster is so hard to peg down really, their ceiling is a championship if Melo and Amare play out of their minds and the role players step up, but again there's a weird mesh of skill sets and players. I'm just in the opinion that Wallace is done, why not give that roster spot to another young guy to develop or someone who you know at min still has gas left in the tank.

[mrhoopfan]

last season

we started off as

douglas
fields
melo
amare
tyson

bench

bibby
jefffries
shumpert
walker
balkman

this season

felton
brewer
melo
amare
tyson

bench

kidd
shumpert
JR
novak
camby
wallace
prigoni
thomas

i expect good things and a huge improvement now with extended veteran help



Brewer and Felton could honestly be the worst starting back court in the league

[SourPatchKids]

Sheed trying to secure his record of most technical fouls.
Ha.

[andgar923]

wallace to attend training camp

Maybe he's matured a bit and can provide some leadership on and off the court.

[airchibundo507]

Brewer and Felton could honestly be the worst starting back court in the league

Kidd, Shumpert and JR could honestly be the best backcourt off the bench in the league.

[longtime lurker]

Kidd, Shumpert and JR could honestly be the best backcourt off the bench in the league.

Knicks should start Shumpert when he gets back.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Kidd, Shumpert and JR could honestly be the best backcourt off the bench in the league.
Or they could be an over-the-hill star, a guy recovering from an ACL tear and a brainless chuck.

[AI3Anthony]

I'm kinda interested to see what he has left. Even if he made the team, I don't see where he would fit in.

[Freedom Kid7]

Oh hell yeah Sheed's back :bowdown: .

Man I love Rasheed. One of the most interesting and funny people of the NBA of all time

[airchibundo507]

Or they could be an over-the-hill star, a guy recovering from an ACL tear and a brainless chuck.

over-the-hill? whatever. but he was a starter for a playoff team just last season. as a bench player in limited minutes, he will be extremely beneficial. his ability to run an offense and get the ball to our scorers where they are most effective at scoring is something the Knicks desperately lacked last season.

[MeLO MvP 15]

I love how every keeps pointing to how bad he was with Boston, but everyone's forgetting that he had a pretty big role and was playing big minutes. He was the main bench player for that team. For NY he'll be maybe the 12th man (I put him ahead of Kurt, White and whatever training camp guy makes the roster). He's also been asked by many teams (I read that six teams have asked him to join their team since he retired two years ago- one of which was NY last year) and chose to retire to be with his sick mother.

A few weeks ago I saw some highlights of him in a charity game where he was throwing down some pretty nice dunks (which is amazing considering Sheed was never known for that) and thought he looked good enough to still play. I didn't expect my team to pick him up, but I'm glad we did. At the very least we could use another guy to scream at some of our guys.

[MeLO MvP 15]

over-the-hill? whatever. but he was a starter for a playoff team just last season. as a bench player in limited minutes, he will be extremely beneficial. his ability to run an offense and get the ball to our scorers where they are most effective at scoring is something the Knicks desperately lacked last season.
Ignore him, he's a Celtics fan just hating to hate. It's really easy to point out the negatives, I mean we could easily call Boston's roster: a PG who can't shoot with a horrible attitude, an over the hill chucker, another over the hill chucker who loves to whine and flop, an over the hill asshole, and a tweener forward who can't cover either position.

He fails to see the irony in him calling our player over the hill.

[daily]

I'm kinda interested to see what he has left. Even if he made the team, I don't see where he would fit in.I'm not getting this signing. Sheed hasn't played in 2.5 years and then had no real impact on the game. I think the roster spot could have been used for a more productive purpose, like a rookie that might develop into something vs an old guy who going to be there for a season at the most

[DaSeba5]

Rasheed Wallace, at 38, is only the 4th oldest player on the Knicks.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[BlackVVaves]

over-the-hill? whatever. but he was a starter for a playoff team just last season. as a bench player in limited minutes, he will be extremely beneficial. his ability to run an offense and get the ball to our scorers where they are most effective at scoring is something the Knicks desperately lacked last season.

You clearly didn't watch the Mavs last year.

[Y2Gezee]

He's gotta have something left, and in theory he's a perfect fit as a stretch big that can space for Melo or Amare (as they can also space for each other) and protect the basket, while allowing the stars to play to their strengths.

And when I say he's gotta have something left, I say that because the Knicks had options instead of him and are already pretty set at all positions. Rasheed has been working out with the team for weeks now, and they expect him to play himself into shape over the season. Great insurance policy if there is an injury in the frontcourt.

The Knicks have done a great job building around their Big 3.

[ballup]

I love how every keeps pointing to how bad he was with Boston, but everyone's forgetting that he had a pretty big role and was playing big minutes. He was the main bench player for that team. For NY he'll be maybe the 12th man (I put him ahead of Kurt, White and whatever training camp guy makes the roster). He's also been asked by many teams (I read that six teams have asked him to join their team since he retired two years ago- one of which was NY last year) and chose to retire to be with his sick mother.

A few weeks ago I saw some highlights of him in a charity game where he was throwing down some pretty nice dunks (which is amazing considering Sheed was never known for that) and thought he looked good enough to still play. I didn't expect my team to pick him up, but I'm glad we did. At the very least we could use another guy to scream at some of our guys.
How does being given big minutes cancel out his overall bad play?

[MeLO MvP 15]

How does being given big minutes cancel out his overall bad play?
I didn't say it cancels it out, I'm saying even if he stinks it up it won't have much of an impact because we don't NEED to play him like Boston HAD to.

[Real Men Wear Green]

over-the-hill? whatever. but he was a starter for a playoff team just last season. as a bench player in limited minutes, he will be extremely beneficial. his ability to run an offense and get the ball to our scorers where they are most effective at scoring is something the Knicks desperately lacked last season.
As a starter he averaged 6, 6 and 4. Those aren't the numbers that made Kidd an MVP candidate in Jersey. He's turning 40 next season, just be happy if he makes it to the playoffs on the active roster.
Ignore him, he's a Celtics fan just hating to hate. It's really easy to point out the negatives, I mean we could easily call Boston's roster: a PG who can't shoot with a horrible attitude, an over the hill chucker, another over the hill chucker who loves to whine and flop, an over the hill asshole, and a tweener forward who can't cover either position.

He fails to see the irony in him calling our player over the hill.
Rondo is an All-Star. Pierce is an All-Star. The "asshole" averaged 16 and 8. And the Celtics won 10 times as many playoff games as the Knicks have over the last decade. Don't make stupid comparisons.

[bdreason]

He won't make it the entire season. Either his body will breakdown, or his mouth will wear out his welcome.

[d.bball.guy]

Rasheed Wallace, at 38, is only the 4th oldest player on the Knicks.
:roll:

[MeLO MvP 15]

As a starter he averaged 6, 6 and 4. Those aren't the numbers that made Kidd an MVP candidate in Jersey. He's turning 40 next season, just be happy if he makes it to the playoffs on the active roster.
Rondo is an All-Star. Pierce is an All-Star. The "asshole" averaged 16 and 8. And the Celtics won 10 times as many playoff games as the Knicks have over the last decade. Don't make stupid comparisons.
You obviously missed my point. I'm saying that you were just pointing out the negatives of certain players, so I did the same to yours.

[sixer6ad]

He was done in Game 5 of 2007. He got himself kicked out of the game because it was an awful moment. He was fading, his team was at the end of its rope, it was the end of an era. I know he played for more years, but never once did I think he was close to the same player or even someone for whom an opponent needed to plan. He was only a sideshow.

It would be amazing if - 6 years later - he had something left in the tank.

[KingBeasley08]

Rasheed Wallace, at 38, is only the 4th oldest player on the Knicks.
:lol

[Patrick Chewing]

wallace to attend training camp


Good man.

[Patrick Chewing]

And from what I read, Knicks still have an option to sign someone else. Since Wallace is a big, no need for another. Tracy McGrady?

[bluechox2]

And from what I read, Knicks still have an option to sign someone else. Since Wallace is a big, no need for another. Tracy McGrady?
Nmost likely someone we took to training camp

[kNicKz]

A storm is brewing in the east

[d.bball.guy]

http://i.imgur.com/kozck.jpg

[KG215]

http://i.imgur.com/kozck.jpg

You could've at least done that in a pic where he wasn't playing against the Knicks.

[bluechox2]

http://i.imgur.com/kozck.jpg
:lol playing against the knicks

[d.bball.guy]

You could've at least done that in a pic where he wasn't playing against the Knicks.
:lol Didn't see that

Edit: It's kinda distracting so I fixed it

http://i.imgur.com/u3qTX.jpg

[boozehound]

i really like it. he will hopefully force an accountability and set a tough tone/demeanor for the teams D with chandler. I hope he can be effective, but you never know.

[zac]

I made these. I'm really not sure what they mean but I know they mean something. Everyone should thank the Knicks for bringing back the GOAT.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a86/waldorph86/IHaveADream.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a86/waldorph86/Ihaveadream2.jpg

[d.bball.guy]

I made these. I'm really not sure what they mean but I know they mean something. Everyone should thank the Knicks for bringing back the GOAT.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a86/waldorph86/IHaveADream.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a86/waldorph86/Ihaveadream2.jpg
Nice black and white touch on the actual photos of him announcing he's coming back. :cheers:

[stickfigure87]

Rasheed Wallace, at 38, is only the 4th oldest player on the Knicks.

wow.

[tomtucker]

:lol Didn't see that

Edit: It's kinda distracting so I fixed it

http://i.imgur.com/u3qTX.jpg

Bosh not knowing where the ball is......and Lebron hugging before the final buzzer.........:lol

[Real Men Wear Green]

You obviously missed my point. I'm saying that you were just pointing out the negatives of certain players, so I did the same to yours.
You have no point. 'bundo wrote some nonsense about the best backcourt bench in the league, I pointed out why it was silly and then you chimed in with further crap. "Pointing out negatives" is part of criticism genius.

[$LakerGold]

Yall actin like the Knicks just signed a fkin handicap.

Stop exaggerating, that's RASHEED WALLACE.

[BlueandGold]

So pretty much Sheed won't be in shape till about April-May. Hope the Knicks are only paying him for 1/5th of a season.

If Sheed wouldn't come in in shape for Doc Rivers or the Celtics I seriously dont' know how the Knicks are gonna handle him. He's gotta up up there with one of the most whiniest/worst attitude athletes of all time.

[MiamiThrice]

Nice free points in the paint with Sheed in the paint. Can't wait for the inevitable season with 4 PPG and 31% shooting. Good pickup.

[Clutch]

Knicks acquired a lot of tough,defensive minded players in the last 2 seasons.
Tyson Chandler
Kurt Thomas
Iman Shumpert
Marcus Camby
Rasheed Wallace
Ronnie Brewer

Also they replaced Mike "I don't know what defense is" D'Antoni with a defensive minded coach in Mike Woodson.

All in all I like where the team is headed. I enjoy watching tough,defensive minded teams and the Knicks will surely be one in the coming years. I wish we signed some slightly younger guys instead of Sheed like K-Mart,Birdman or Amundson. I know they aren't really young either but at least they aren't fossil old.

I think the realistic expectations for this team this season should be Top4 in the East and advancing to the 2nd round. Personally I think the Knicks can make the ECF but I doubt they can beat Miami.

[bluechox2]

i dont think the knicks would have considered bringing back wallace if they thought he couldnt play

[wagexslave]

I don't understand the point of this signing. What in the hell does a 40 year old Rasheed Wallace bring to the table other than nothing?

Why sign an ancient player like Rasheed who:
1) has literally 0 upside
2) is old and worn down, probably will be injury prone
3) will probably stink it up on the court anyways, like he has been in these last few years of his career

When you could just as easily sign a young, overlooked player for dirt cheap and give him a chance to get out on the court and make something of himself. Pretty much any NBA player could fill the role that they're hoping to get out of Rasheed, the only difference is that young players actually have a chance at some kind of upside, and if they get good you can resign them for years to come. While on the other hand Rasheed Wallace is DONE. He has, and will only continue to, get worse and worse. I'll be surprised, more like SHOCKED, if he even plays more than 1 more season.

SMH... why are the Knicks so stupid?

[Amare4lyfe]

I don't understand this at all. Rasheed didn't do anything when he was with the Celtics. The Knicks think the they can be like the Heat and surround their stars with cheap old vets.

[Figlo]

This mean Sheed might be in 2k13!!!!

[Rubio2Gasol]

Once Sheed can hit that jumper this is a great pickup.

[JohnnySic]

6 hard fouls on LeBron and Wade. That's what ec teams are looking for.

[rhythmic]

Knicks will be good this season, I like the signing of Jason Kidd a lot.
Kidd, Smith, Anthony, Amare & Chandler with a deep bench? Hopefully they allow Jason to facilitate the offense, and if Amare can stay healthy they can be a contender.

Their defense is very good, they just never found cohesiveness offensively. I don't think it was a coincidence that Kidd/Chandler were apart of Dallas's championship season. Chandler in a Knicks uniform already won a DPOTY award so we know he is critical to their success, it's really all about them utilizing Kidd properly and Amare/Melo finally becoming an elite duo we all thought they would be, just haven't really materialized into one yet.

[bagelred]

Iman Shumpert "Playing with this squad....it's like playing with my dad and his friends."

[EnoughSaid]

6 hard fouls on LeBron and Wade. That's what ec teams are looking for.

Haslem will knock the shit out of Sheed. :lol

[LikeABosh]

The Knick's circus continues. :lol

[bagelred]

Marc Berman ‏@NYPost_Berman

Knicks announce Rasheed signing. Official.
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2m John Schuhmann John Schuhmann ‏@johnschuhmann

The Knicks have announced that they've signed Rasheed Wallace.
Retweeted by Seth Rosenthal

It's officially official officially.


Rasheed just picked up his first technical.

[Droid101]

Ball don't lie.

[G-train]

Woeful signing in what will be a poor to average year for the Knicks, and the beginning of 3 more years of mockery.
Yeah bump this when they are 7-3, then I'll bump it when they are 48-34.

[bagelred]

Woeful signing in what will be a poor to average year for the Knicks, and the beginning of 3 more years of mockery.
Yeah bump this when they are 7-3, then I'll bump it when they are 48-34.

Sounds like somebody is scared....you scared?.......you seem scared..

[G-train]

Sounds like somebody is scared....you scared?.......you seem scared..

No.

[JellyBean]

So what month and week does Rasheed Wallace become the scapegoat for why the Kinicks still can't win?

[Mr Know It All]

So what month and week does Rasheed Wallace become the scapegoat for why the Kinicks still can't win?

In January, when he's waived.

[Bahamian Balla]

I would rather take Sheed for the Vets minimum non guaranteed rather than Mike Miller awful contract and Bad Back. He is not expected to play heavy minutes just an insurance policy to be used for floor spacing (3 point shot) defense for 5-8 minutes and team defensive leadership and if STAT or Chandler go down in foul trouble injury etc.

[Y2Gezee]

Rasheed will be like the 11th man off the bench. Not 6th man, but if he can get into in season shape, he should be a very good option if there is an injury in the front court and his skills match very well with the Knicks roster. With any roster, who wouldn't want one of the best stretch 4s in history who can play defense and know how to play with his back to basket if he has a mismatch.


Looking at it objectively, I think the Knicks have the best overall roster in the NBA. IMO, if it fails they've got to cut the coach fast, because I could coach them to 55 wins.

[G-train]

Rasheed will be like the 11th man off the bench. Not 6th man, but if he can get into in season shape, he should be a very good option if there is an injury in the front court and his skills match very well with the Knicks roster. With any roster, who wouldn't want one of the best stretch 4s in history who can play defense and know how to play with his back to basket if he has a mismatch.


Looking at it objectively, I think the Knicks have the best overall roster in the NBA. IMO, if it fails they've got to cut the coach fast, because I could coach them to 55 wins.

Rasheed played his last game almost 2.5 years ago, and he varied from solid role player to a joke in that season. Logic says he will be even worse at age 38.

Another objective way to look at is they have a starting PG who played terrible last season, 2 injured shooting guards, 2 score first forwards allergic to defence and team play in the most part, a good centre, and an ancient bench of players coming off their worst seasons and only gonna get more prone and play worse. Add to that the mostly bad and enigmatic Smith and a 3PT specialist.

If that's the best overall roster in the NBA there is a problem with the league.

[MeLO MvP 15]

Rasheed will be like the 11th man off the bench. Not 6th man, but if he can get into in season shape, he should be a very good option if there is an injury in the front court and his skills match very well with the Knicks roster. With any roster, who wouldn't want one of the best stretch 4s in history who can play defense and know how to play with his back to basket if he has a mismatch.


Looking at it objectively, I think the Knicks have the best overall roster in the NBA. IMO, if it fails they've got to cut the coach fast, because I could coach them to 55 wins.
Agree with it all except for the last part (about the coach).

[Y2Gezee]

Rasheed played his last game almost 2.5 years ago, and he varied from solid role player to a joke in that season. Logic says he will be even worse at age 38.

Another objective way to look at is they have a starting PG who played terrible last season, 2 injured shooting guards, 2 score first forwards allergic to defence and team play in the most part, a good centre, and an ancient bench of players coming off their worst seasons and only gonna get more prone and play worse. Add to that the mostly bad and enigmatic Smith and a 3PT specialist.

If that's the best overall roster in the NBA there is a problem with the league.


I guess its all in how you put it....:rolleyes: .

Rasheed is a low risk non guaranteed vets min contract. He was the Celtics 6th man and part time starter...not the same. If he works out, then great, but they don't need him.

Felton clearly has come into camp in shape, and will be mentored by Kidd and Baron Davis, and his numbers slightly dipped from his career numbers after turning his season around after getting into shape and Nate M got fired. Kidd says repeatedly that he's in his best shape in about 5 years, yet even last year's version would've been good enough to be the best pg the Knicks fielded all season (at least to play with their frontcourt) and he's clearly one of the best backup pgs in the NBA. Camby is probably the best backup center in the league right now. The 2 injured sgs will be there when it matters, and they're 2 of the top 10 defensive perimeter players in the league, the 3rd SG is a perennial 6th man candidate entering his prime. The best 3pt shooter in the league in Novak.

The depth and versatility on this roster is so good, that if they struggle with Amare and Melo on the floor (which they wont), they could send one to the bench and have a bench that would be a playoff starting 5... (at least a pretty solid team) Kidd/JR Smith/Steve Novak/Amare/Camby. With a starting 5 of Felton/Iman/Brewer/Melo/Chandler. Note there's no mention of Sheed/Pablo/Kurt Thomas....if they can play, then all the better.

[Trentknicks]

I guess its all in how you put it....:rolleyes: .

Rasheed is a low risk non guaranteed vets min contract. He was the Celtics 6th man and part time starter...not the same. If he works out, then great, but they don't need him.

Felton clearly has come into camp in shape, and will be mentored by Kidd and Baron Davis, and his numbers slightly dipped from his career numbers after turning his season around after getting into shape and Nate M got fired. Kidd says repeatedly that he's in his best shape in about 5 years, yet even last year's version would've been good enough to be the best pg the Knicks fielded all season (at least to play with their frontcourt) and he's clearly one of the best backup pgs in the NBA. Camby is probably the best backup center in the league right now. The 2 injured sgs will be there when it matters, and they're 2 of the top 10 defensive perimeter players in the league, the 3rd SG is a perennial 6th man candidate entering his prime. The best 3pt shooter in the league in Novak.

The depth and versatility on this roster is so good, that if they struggle with Amare and Melo on the floor (which they wont), they could send one to the bench and have a bench that would be a playoff starting 5... (at least a pretty solid team) Kidd/JR Smith/Steve Novak/Amare/Camby. With a starting 5 of Felton/Iman/Brewer/Melo/Chandler. Note there's no mention of Sheed/Pablo/Kurt Thomas....if they can play, then all the better.
Great post. When you consider that Pablo & Thomas will barely play, and Sheed will be getting spot minutes, they hardly count as the oldest team in the league. People forget that all of the veteran pick ups are playing a BACK UP or 3rd string role. Each veteran pickup in Kidd, Camby, Sheed have a set of young fresh legs taking up most of the minutes in front of them and Pablo and Thomas are both 3rd string guys. I just love the versatility of the roster, I expect a 2-4 seeding on the east depending on how well Boston and Indiana mesh with their roster adjustments.

[Y2Gezee]

Great post. When you consider that Pablo & Thomas will barely play, and Sheed will be getting spot minutes, they hardly count as the oldest team in the league. People forget that all of the veteran pick ups are playing a BACK UP or 3rd string role. Each veteran pickup in Kidd, Camby, Sheed have a set of young fresh legs taking up most of the minutes in front of them and Pablo and Thomas are both 3rd string guys. I just love the versatility of the roster, I expect a 2-4 seeding on the east depending on how well Boston and Indiana mesh with their roster adjustments.


The versatility is definitely the most impressive part. And I don't care how old Camby and Kidd are, last year they had quality starter production and are still capable of starting for playoff teams now, hell they could both start for the Heat. Kidd saying he's feeling better than he has in years is impressive, considering up until last year's shortened season he's been very durable and productive and he's adapted his game to be effective even without his old athleticism. He can fill in and play minutes at all 3 positions if need be, and is still a strong defender on wings.

The starting lineup is impressive, but the bench is why this team is scary. And that much talent with guys who can legitimately play 2-3 positions is why this team is the best roster in the NBA...on paper.

This was a very strong team last year when some of the pieces fell into place midseason, its a shame the injuries to Amare and Lin occurred, because they'd have had similar depth going down the stretch with Lin and a healthier backup Davis. But this roster is sick. Its like the Bulls roster of the past couple of years, but more talented.

[bluechox2]

what i really like about this is he isnt going to let amare or melo bitch about anything or whine about not getting enough shots, hes going to bring that toughness that we've seen throughout his career and that intimidation factor when hes on the floor for 10 minutes

we have 3 guys with rings on the roster and those 3 guys have the biggest voice in the locker room.

we are definitely in win now mode and this pre- pre-season training camp shows that they are serious about getting it right this year.

[bluechox2]

Jonah Ballow ‏@jonahballow
Sheed is vocal during practice this AM. While working on off/def sets, he has jumped in to provide guidance #Knicks

[DuMa]

http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2012/10/04/sports/web_photos/rasheed_wallace--300x300.jpg

recent pic of him. he doesnt look nearly bloated as i thought he would be.

[FireDavidKahn]

Jonah Ballow ‏@jonahballow
Sheed is vocal during practice this AM. While working on off/def sets, he has jumped in to provide guidance #Knicks
I miss Jonah Ballow so much. He was such a good reporter.:cry:

[niko]

I look forward to Rasheed being a positive influence on JR Smith specifically. He's like the son Sheed always wanted.

[Take Your Lumps]

It's quite possible that Rasheed Wallace will have a more productive season than Lamar Odom. That's pretty shocking.

Although, my lawn chair might have a more productive season than Lamar Odom too.

[Rab]

http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2012/10/04/sports/web_photos/rasheed_wallace--300x300.jpg

recent pic of him. he doesnt look nearly bloated as i thought he would be.
Same here. Doesn't look bad at all. I like Sheed, so though he'll play a limited role, I'm looking forward to seeing him back in the league.

[Droid101]

Looking at it objectively, I think the Knicks have the best overall roster in the NBA.
:roll:

[Joshumitsu]

I didn't even need to read the last word of this thread's title.

Only one team is dumb enough to do this.

[Toizumi]

Rasheed is known as a great chemistry/lockerroom guy, who can positively influence younger players. The Knicks need those type of players, with guys like Melo/Stat/JR who can loose focus every now and then and play for self instead of for the good of the team. With Kidd, Chandler, Sheed and Thomas, the Knicks have some steady veterans who are smart defenders and can pass knowledge to the younger guys. This team is a great experiment and I hope it pays off.

[Cermet]

The asshole flopper is back, great....

[Blue&Orange]

woody reach out to him:

http://knicksnow.com/videos/1725/training-camp-day-2-wallace


Probably to slap the Knicks prima donna's into their place.

[niko]

Rasheed is known as a great chemistry/lockerroom guy, who can positively influence younger players. The Knicks need those type of players, with guys like Melo/Stat/JR who can loose focus every now and then and play for self instead of for the good of the team. With Kidd, Chandler, Sheed and Thomas, the Knicks have some steady veterans who are smart defenders and can pass knowledge to the younger guys. This team is a great experiment and I hope it pays off.
It's just bizarre because we kept Kurt Thomas, and our backup center is old. The fact is they need to jettison Kurt for a younger body that can play limited minutes. But it's right, i rather have Rasheed than some malcontent who is going to bitch if he doesn't play minutes.

[francesco totti]

crap signing, and not a good one for the lockerroom either. He wont set good example for others.