Kobe: "Shameless flopping is just a chump move."

[SpecialQue]

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/ken-berger/20445728/nbpa-to-file-grievance-labor-charge-over-flopping-fines


"I'd love to see it have an impact on the game itself," Bryant said. "In international play, they give you a technical foul, a free throw and you get the ball back. I like the rule, though. Shameless flopping is just a chump move. We're familiar with it, and Vlade [Divac] kind of pioneered it in the playoffs against me and Shaq."

I don't have it, but someone post that pic of Kobe getting slightly nudged and then flinging his body to the side.

[PJR]

Coming from the guy who was actually suspended TWICE for his flopping. In what Stu Jackson would describe as an "unnatural basketball movement" :oldlol: .

[LJJ]

Calling for fouls when there is no foul is a "chump move" for the exact same reason, but I guess for convenience Bryant forgot he does this every single time he attempts a field goal.

[Dictator]

Kobe really doesn't flop too much. He whines for calls but you don't really see any blatant flops from him.

[G-train]

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/ken-berger/20445728/nbpa-to-file-grievance-labor-charge-over-flopping-fines



I don't have it, but someone post that pic of Kobe getting slightly nudged and then flinging his body to the side.

Why does he have to say "me and shaq".
It was 99.9% against Shaq.
This guy :facepalm

[G-Funk]

I think he's referring to the Lebron kind of flops

http://www.sportsgeekery.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/lebron-flop-2.gif

http://www.sportsgeekery.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/lebron-flop-3.gif

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/836554/jamesflop.gif

http://cjzero.com/gifs/LBJFlop1.gif

http://www.theunticket.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/219xycx.gif

http://instntrply.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/BronFlop.gif

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1115960/lebronflop2.gif

http://www.abload.de/img/untitled-115zk3t.gif

http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs5/3926511_o.gif

http://www.trbimg.com/img-4fb14c13/turbine/la-sp-sn-flopping-20120514-001/600

[TexasBloodMoney]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yztalYQQkjs

:rolleyes: Ironic that he says that.

[G-Funk]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yztalYQQkjs

:rolleyes: Ironic that he says that.


there was actually a lot of contact unlike this

http://www.sportsgeekery.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/lebron-flop-3.gif

[pegasus]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yztalYQQkjs

:rolleyes: Ironic that he says that.
That's knowing your opponent. Very smart move by Kobe to avoid getting called for a foul that he didn't commit.:applause:

[G-Funk]

Coming from the guy who was actually suspended TWICE for his flopping. In what Stu Jackson would describe as an "unnatural basketball movement" :oldlol: .

He got suspended for hitting other players face in a aggressive manner not for pretending and falling like a bitch like u know who

[Heavincent]

He's probably referring to this

http://i.imgur.com/HuR88.gif

[G-Funk]

He's probably referring to this

http://i.imgur.com/HuR88.gif

rolol

[BlackVVaves]

I think he's referring to the Lebron kind of flops

http://www.sportsgeekery.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/lebron-flop-2.gif



Dude, LMFAOOO :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[G-Funk]

Or This

http://ksr.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/bosh-flop-gif.gif

[G-Funk]

Kobe just called the whole Heat team "Shameless flopping chumps"

Cold blooded!

http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs1/1617849_o.gif

[BEAST Griffin]

Says the king of flailing your arms and verbal flops.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Hilarious coming from this guy. :oldlol:

[G-Funk]

Shameless like a B!TCH!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AAM_mdNVek

[G-Funk]

Says the king of flailing your arms and verbal flops.

Another shameless flopping chump


http://cdn3.sbnation.com/imported_assets/947266/GRIFFIN.gif

[raptorfan_dr07]

Says the guy who flails his arms and screams "hey" every time he gets stripped or gets his shot blocked. :rolleyes: This guy just doesn't know when to STFU.

Also, it's about damn time the NBA did something about all this flopping crap. Teams like the Lakers, Heat, and Clippers are going to have change their entire game plans. :oldlol: Lebron, Wade, Bosh, Kobe, Gasol, Artest, CP3, and Blake are all among the biggest offenders in the league. P*ssy ball. Some of those gifs/pics above are priceless. One of my favorites is Wade falling down and grabbing his eye while b*tching to the refs. :roll:

I'd also like to see them clean up the whole "throw my body into a stationary defender and get a foul" BS. That constitutes as flopping no?

[G-Funk]

Ive only seen Artest flop one time and that's when Rondo shoved him, I can't think of another time and I bet you can't find 5 vids where he does flop

[Asukal]

Today's era = golden era of flopping. :roll:

[longtime lurker]

Kobe keeping it real :cheers: . It's funny that a lot of these haters agree with what he's saying, but because it's Kobe they go on some other tangent :lol

[G-Funk]

Kobe keeping it real :cheers: . It's funny that a lot of these haters agree with what he's saying, but because it's Kobe they go on some other tangent :lol


They can't come up with nothing that compares or comes even close to this shameless flops that have been posted

[BlackVVaves]

Artest is a flopper now? :oldlol:

Throwing your hands up and screaming "hey," something players have been doing since the 70s, is different than doing a Chris Paul cartwheel, a Varejou back spin, a Reggie Evans collapse to the ground. Those type of stunts are shameless because they do more than sought out attention from the refs, they mock the integrity of the actual game. There's no reason or place for Broadway type performances on the court.

[poido123]

Kobe keeping it real :cheers: . It's funny that a lot of these haters agree with what he's saying, but because it's Kobe they go on some other tangent :lol

Did you actually read people's posts? This sounds like a response to something completely different. :facepalm

[COnDEMnED]

Kobe really doesn't flop too much. He whines for calls but you don't really see any blatant flops from him.
He does flop, but its not the type of flop you're used to seeing with most of these other players in the league today. Its a "I just got stripped in mid air, fling my hands and scream AEYY!. Then pray for a ref to call a foul" type flop. Not retardedly whiplash your head back when guarding Boozer or run back down the court and throw your body all sideways like you got hit by a train with nobody within 3 feet of you (Robert Horry, also against Boozer)

[Asukal]

Kobe didn't say he doesn't flop. He said "shameless flopping", probably referring to the heat's big 3 flopping without contact. :oldlol:

I'm glad flopping is going to be reduced, the league is on the right track. :applause:

[Heavincent]

Artest is a flopper now? :oldlol:

Throwing your hands up and screaming "hey," something players have been doing since the 70s, is different than doing a Chris Paul cartwheel, a Varejou back spin, a Reggie Evans collapse to the ground. Those type of stunts are shameless because they do more than sought out attention from the refs, they mock the integrity of the actual game. There's no reason or place for Broadway type performances on the court.

Exactly.

Kobe is definitely not a flopper. Have never seen him do anything like some of the gifs posted in this thread.

[RaininTwos]

how is lebron in every thread? god damn

[coin24]

Lebron is a shameless flopper, how can anyone defend that shit:facepalm :facepalm

[poido123]

Haha is that coming from you Flopbe? Cry ey and flail arms about LOL wrong guy to talk about flops etc.
And Lebron is even worse, that shit he pulls should get multi game suspensions, its like a cancer.

[Jailblazers7]

Or This

http://ksr.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/bosh-flop-gif.gif

Best flop ever.

[poido123]

Best flop ever.

10 game suspension will stop Chris from doing that. and a hefty fine on top

[longtime lurker]

Did you actually read people's posts? This sounds like a response to something completely different. :facepalm

Yes I did read people's quotes is the same damn garbage all the time on ISH. Kobe mentions that it's about time that flopping gets penalized and instead of talking about the comment the legion of brain dead morons attack the speaker. BTW yelling "hey" and flailing when there's contact is not flopping.

[poido123]

Yes I did read people's quotes is the same damn garbage all the time on ISH. Kobe mentions that it's about time that flopping gets penalized and instead of talking about the comment the legion of brain dead morons attack the speaker. BTW yelling "hey" and flailing when there's contact is not flopping.

Nope, but it has the same affect as flopping and just as shameful. Like I said, you are acting like ISH just has this agenda against Kobe, but really he brings alot of scrutiny upon himself? IF he wants the accolades and the status that he claims to be, then he is going to be met with equal criticism. What makes Kobe unique is that his achievements in his career don't tell the whole story.

[longtime lurker]

Nope, but it has the same affect as flopping and just as shameful. Like I said, you are acting like ISH just has this agenda against Kobe, but really he brings alot of scrutiny upon himself? IF he wants the accolades and the status that he claims to be, then he is going to be met with equal criticism. What makes Kobe unique is that his achievements in his career don't tell the whole story.

No it doesn't have the same effect as flopping genius. Yelling hey or flailing your arms doesn't same effect as grossly exaggerating contact or in some cases completely acting when there wasn't even any contact physical contact. You just proved my point about ISH, you should have just stopped at the flopping, but then you got onto write a little rant about Kobe and his career achievements. You clearly have issues.

[poido123]

No it doesn't have the same effect as flopping genius. Yelling hey or flailing your arms doesn't same effect as grossly exaggerating contact or in some cases completely acting when there wasn't even any contact physical contact. You just proved my point about ISH, you should have just stopped at the flopping, but then you got onto write a little rant about Kobe and his career achievements. You clearly have issues.

Yeah it does? It gets called a foul in his favour, just like taking a flop would be in the floppers favour. Different actions but same outcome. If you want to point out the technicality, Im sure you could run with that for a while. ISH gets sick of dudes like you complaining about ISH, dont like it, find another basketball forum.

[poido123]

No it doesn't have the same effect as flopping genius. Yelling hey or flailing your arms doesn't same effect as grossly exaggerating contact or in some cases completely acting when there wasn't even any contact physical contact. You just proved my point about ISH, you should have just stopped at the flopping, but then you got onto write a little rant about Kobe and his career achievements. You clearly have issues.

I point that out, because fanboys like you think Kobe should never be criticised.

[LakersReign]

Yes I did read people's quotes is the same damn garbage all the time on ISH. Kobe mentions that it's about time that flopping gets penalized and instead of talking about the comment the legion of brain dead morons attack the speaker. BTW yelling "hey" and flailing when there's contact is not flopping.

They have to attack the source of the comment, rather than deal with the content of the comment cuz the truth hurts, and they can't deal with it. They try to argue against facts with nothing more than their pathetic hater opinion, backed up with their irrational Kobe hate. And that's exactly why reasonable NBA fans don't take a thing they say seriously. Anybody who tries to say Kobe is a shameless flopper, like what he was talking about, already has no credibility. Cuz anybody who actually watches games already knows that's a blatant lie. How convenient they say that but can't post any video evidence to back it up. Then they turn right around and try to say Wade/Lebron/bosh ARE NOT shameless floppers, expecting to be taken seriously, when there's video evidence to the contrary:rolleyes:

[Bballfinest]

:applause:
They have to attack the source of the comment, rather than deal with the content of the comment cuz the truth hurts, and they can't deal with it. They try to argue against facts with nothing more than their pathetic hater opinion, backed up with their irrational Kobe hate. And that's exactly why reasonable NBA fans don't take a thing they say seriously. Anybody who tries to say Kobe is a shameless flopper, like what he was talking about, already has no credibility. Cuz anybody who actually watches games already knows that's a blatant lie. How convenient they say that but can't post any video evidence to back it up. Then they turn right around and try to say Wade/Lebron/bosh ARE NOT shameless floppers, expecting to be taken seriously, when there's video evidence to the contrary:rolleyes:

[longtime lurker]

Yeah it does? It gets called a foul in his favour, just like taking a flop would be in the floppers favour. Different actions but same outcome. If you want to point out the technicality, Im sure you could run with that for a while. ISH gets sick of dudes like you complaining about ISH, dont like it, find another basketball forum.

No its not you dumb ***. If you feel contact its natural to react to the contact. It doesn't change the way the refs call fouls. What flopping does is completely exaggerate contact or makes it seem like it and the forces the refs to call the foul since it looks like a player is having a seizure on the court. Show me anything that Kobe's done as bad as the garbage chris paul, lebron or bosh routinely get away with. You know shit's bad when the commentators have to go out of their way to make a point that floppin is ruining the game. I really couldn't give 2 shits if you criticize Kobe but you clearly have problems when you dislike someone so much you dedicate your time on a messageboard to hating on him.

[G-Funk]

No its not you dumb ***. If you feel contact its natural to react to the contact. It doesn't change the way the refs call fouls. What flopping does is completely exaggerate contact or makes it seem like it and the forces the refs to call the foul since it looks like a player is having a seizure on the court. Show me anything that Kobe's done as bad as the garbage chris paul, lebron or bosh routinely get away with. You know shit's bad when the commentators have to go out of their way to make a point that floppin is ruining the game. I really couldn't give 2 shits if you criticize Kobe but you clearly have problems when you dislike someone so much you dedicate your time on a messageboard to hating on him.
:bowdown:

[flipogb]

Clippers are screwed, all hopes for a playoff spot are gone

[Holy Random]

I hate Kobe but he's nowhere near the flopper that some of the others are out there. He whines/yells on the offensive end but he very rarely does any 'shameless flops' himself.

[poido123]

No its not you dumb ***. If you feel contact its natural to react to the contact. It doesn't change the way the refs call fouls. What flopping does is completely exaggerate contact or makes it seem like it and the forces the refs to call the foul since it looks like a player is having a seizure on the court. Show me anything that Kobe's done as bad as the garbage chris paul, lebron or bosh routinely get away with. You know shit's bad when the commentators have to go out of their way to make a point that floppin is ruining the game. I really couldn't give 2 shits if you criticize Kobe but you clearly have problems when you dislike someone so much you dedicate your time on a messageboard to hating on him.

Calm down Nancy :rolleyes: Its natural to feel ACTUAL contact not pretend contact and shout ey and flail the arms about while getting shots at the free throw line, which is a bigger advantage than a charge call. What you don't seem to get is, Im gettting attacked for merely mentioning Kobe in a bad light, and I get swarmed on by his legion of dick riders, which means I have to spend time defending myself and explaining why i think the way i do.

Example of him flopping link: http://youtu.be/NKuKCst6wms
Example of him getting away with dirty play link: http://youtu.be/0PsPATt5_DA

Cant find any youtube clips of him flailing and getting calls, but it is common knowledge that he does it. This is a forum where you discuss players and I happen to have an opinion on Kobe that you do not share. Deal with it or go somewhere else. I also dont like being grouped into someone who is on here everyday saying stuff about Kobe, and if I was this is the place to do it right? On a forum :rolleyes:

[kennethgriffin]

Coming from the guy who was actually suspended TWICE for his flopping. In what Stu Jackson would describe as an "unnatural basketball movement" :oldlol: .


i think those were more considered cheap shots for getting blocked or the ball stripped

flopping is the act of drawing a foul

kobe just smashes people in the nose with his elbow. how is that manipulating the score or foul count?

a flop is "acting" .. like falling down

what kobe did was a cheap shot that got caught by the refs and reviewed by league office.


were malones elbows to the face considered flopping?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUxsK_2imYI

[UtahJazzFan88]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bWh_bj5mprw

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[NumberSix]

Real men don't flop. They just stare at the ref slapping their elbow every time they miss.

[G-Funk]

Real men don't flop. They just stare at the ref slapping their elbow every time they miss.
They sure as hell don't do this

http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs5/3926511_o.gif

[Money 23]

Coming from Mr. Drive the Lane and shout HEYYYYYY

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_e4myhNYQ-9w/S-5aKZIOYBI/AAAAAAAAAOg/KEfeCi3OKWc/s1600/kobe-gay.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/39/78971480_c01db556bd.jpg

:oldlol:

[joshwake]

Initiating contact to draw the foul is just as bad. Kobe has perfected the swing-up-the-arms-into-defender move, and is just as much a "chump move" as any flop.

[Legends66NBA7]

Pot meets Kettle.

Everybody at least tries to flop or sell from time to time, unless your Rasheed Wallace, I guess.

[kennethgriffin]

maybe kobes talking about defensive flopping.

trying to draw a foul on a shot is just part of the game. if you can get contact and draw a foul then theres no problem

just like if you draw a legit charge theres no problem


kobes talking about people who don't get fouled but fall on the ground and get the call


if anything kobe gets a no call more often than he gets a call these days.




getting a no call and yelling "hay!" isnt exactly flopping. he just thought he got fouled


its not like kobe falls and lays on the ground. he just says "wtf? no call"

[Money 23]

its not like kobe falls and lays on the ground. he just says "wtf? no call"
It's whiny, and a flop either way you cut it ...

[bdreason]

Kobe cries for calls, but I wouldn't call him a flopper.

[Money 23]

Kobe cries for calls, but I wouldn't call him a flopper.
That's a better way to describe it, I agree.

[senelcoolidge]

http://youtu.be/NKuKCst6wms

[poido123]

maybe kobes talking about defensive flopping.

trying to draw a foul on a shot is just part of the game. if you can get contact and draw a foul then theres no problem

just like if you draw a legit charge theres no problem


kobes talking about people who don't get fouled but fall on the ground and get the call


if anything kobe gets a no call more often than he gets a call these days.




getting a no call and yelling "hay!" isnt exactly flopping. he just thought he got fouled


its not like kobe falls and lays on the ground. he just says "wtf? no call"

Do you actually watch games? Or do you spend all of your time on here arguing how good Kobe is. Clearly you are short of the full quid.

[tpols]

It's whiny, and a flop either way you cut it ...
Whining=/=shameless flopping dumbass.

Shameless means its dramatic, the lebron diving into the first row off no contact, the manu ginobili scissor kicks, the chris paul ROFLcopters, the Vlade head snap backs, the chris bosh on command paralysis.. not.. drawing contact and yelling at he ref for the call. Kobe will get bodied a little or have a hand swiped in and will exxagerate like all stars do.. but he wont put up some of the broadway worthy performances weve seen over the past few years.

[TOUCH MY BODY]

Mamba doesn't need to flop.

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Matt-Barnes-pass-in-kobe.gif

[joeyjoejoe]

Unbelievable from kobe the biggest flopping ***** in the league and probably gets more bs calls in his favour

[LakersReign]

Unbelievable from kobe the biggest flopping ***** in the league and probably gets more bs calls in his favour

http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx150/cousin_e/OHDAMNLOL.gif

[Nero Tulip]

I think he's referring to the Lebron kind of flops

http://www.sportsgeekery.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/lebron-flop-2.gif

http://www.sportsgeekery.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/lebron-flop-3.gif

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/836554/jamesflop.gif

http://cjzero.com/gifs/LBJFlop1.gif

http://www.theunticket.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/219xycx.gif

http://instntrply.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/BronFlop.gif

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1115960/lebronflop2.gif

http://www.abload.de/img/untitled-115zk3t.gif

http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs5/3926511_o.gif

http://www.trbimg.com/img-4fb14c13/turbine/la-sp-sn-flopping-20120514-001/600

Wow these are seriously some of the worst flops I've seen. I didn't even know James was that bad.

But yeah Kobe benefits from "star calls" perhaps more than anyone in the league so he should STFU. In fact with all his comments lately he's starting to sound so insecure that it's probably a good idea.

[LEFT4DEAD]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKuKCst6wms
:coleman:

[Jax]

Coming from Mr. Drive the Lane and shout HEYYYYYY

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_e4myhNYQ-9w/S-5aKZIOYBI/AAAAAAAAAOg/KEfeCi3OKWc/s1600/kobe-gay.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/39/78971480_c01db556bd.jpg

:oldlol:
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :applause:

[TOUCH MY BODY]

Wow these are seriously some of the worst flops I've seen. I didn't even know James was that bad.

But yeah Kobe benefits from "star calls" perhaps more than anyone in the league so he should STFU. In fact with all his comments lately he's starting to sound so insecure that it's probably a good idea.

/end thread

[glidedrxlr22]

That's fukked up....kobe taking shots at his ex-teammate Fisher.

[9512]

Coming from Mr. Drive the Lane and shout HEYYYYYY

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_e4myhNYQ-9w/S-5aKZIOYBI/AAAAAAAAAOg/KEfeCi3OKWc/s1600/kobe-gay.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/39/78971480_c01db556bd.jpg

:oldlol:

EYbe giving Yi Jianlian a run for his money for having most the fun in the NBA!:roll: :roll:

[chosen_one6]

Obviously LeBron flops (had to say that first so I don't get attacked by the Kobe fanatics) but to say Kobe does not flop is just pure ignorance. If you watched the game with an objective eye you'd see he flops at least once a game. Anytime someone gets a cookie on him he automatically throws his arms up in the air trying to get the refs attention, whether it was all ball or not.

[unbreakable]

Mamba doesn't need to flop.

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Matt-Barnes-pass-in-kobe.gif



:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[Calabis]

Kobe just called the whole Heat team "Shameless flopping chumps"

Cold blooded!

http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs1/1617849_o.gif

http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs4/2151134_o.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKuKCst6wms

[Da_Realist]

http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs4/2151134_o.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKuKCst6wms

:oldlol:

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Calabis again.

[LakersReign]

http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs4/2151134_o.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKuKCst6wms

(yawn):sleeping

http://thebiglead.fantasysportsven.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/d-wade-tantrum.gif

[SpecialQue]

If you keep causing a scene we're going to leave the store and you'll get NO Power Ranger toy to take home.

http://thebiglead.fantasysportsven.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/d-wade-tantrum.gif

[LakersReign]

:lol :roll: :roll: :oldlol:

[PJR]

Obviously LeBron flops (had to say that first so I don't get attacked by the Kobe fanatics) but to say Kobe does not flop is just pure ignorance. If you watched the game with an objective eye you'd see he flops at least once a game. Anytime someone gets a cookie on him he automatically throws his arms up in the air trying to get the refs attention, whether it was all ball or not.

Truuuu

[DatAsh]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKuKCst6wms
:coleman:

That didn't look like a flop to me.

[MaxFly]

Perhaps one of the worst Bryant flops...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zurH6_hkXBw

It's funny to hear him calling out other players when he routinely gets calls like the one above...

[El Kabong]

Those GIF's are hilarious, it's like i'm watching WWE ****ups.