Bo McCalebb (Euroleague's BEST PG) vs. Celtics Highlights 10-5-12

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr4rJ6-1HbI

Kid is sick. Reminds me of a right-handed Nick Van Excel. Quick, crafty, and very good at keeping his dribble alive. :applause:

[kNIOKAS]

I don't think he's that sick. He's only like Telfair. On meth. :confusedshrug:

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

I don't think he's that sick. He's only like Telfair. On meth. :confusedshrug:

Of course you don't. He murked your squad. :lol

[kNIOKAS]

Of course you don't. He murked your squad. :lol
Well, he was impressive, especially so athletic-wise, but I think it's due to he has a green light to do whatever he wants... He's just throwing himself out there. I'm usually taking savvy play instead of reckless, but it's ok.

[alenleomessi]

wherever he goes, his team makes the semifinals/final fours no matter how bad they were before that

[ZenMaster]

Well, he was impressive, especially so athletic-wise, but I think it's due to he has a green light to do whatever he wants... He's just throwing himself out there. I'm usually taking savvy play instead of reckless, but it's ok.

So what you're really saying is that getting a green light makes you athletic and impressive...

What?

[kNIOKAS]

So what you're really saying is that getting a green light makes you athletic and impressive...

What?
I'm saying if you get a bum like a Telfair and let him do whatever he wants, he may turn out to produce just as good as Bo McCalebb.

[ZenMaster]

I'm saying if you get a bum like a Telfair and let him do whatever he wants, he may turn out to produce just as good as Bo McCalebb.

It works the opposite way in the real world. Usually you have to be good and impressive in order to get a "green light". Usually a coach will consider you good and impressive if you out play your teammates in practice and/or if you perform better than them in games.

And McCalebb isn't just doing "whatever he wants", he's playing very good pickn'roll basketball in the Euroleague and not the and1 mix tour.

[ukballer]

Always makes me curious as to how he would do in the NBA. But then I think of Anthony Parker. Who was a solid NBA player, don't get it twisted, but I think Bo should stay in Europe and carry on being the man for many years.

[swi7ch]

If the NBA is so good, shouldn't they be able to beat these "scrub teams" in their sleep? Either BOS sucks or the NBA isn't as good as it thinks it is...

[Nick Young]

If the NBA is so good, shouldn't they be able to beat these "scrub teams" in their sleep? Either BOS sucks or the NBA isn't as good as it thinks it is...
boston sucks. they got schooled by a division II reject.

[steve]

McCalebb has been killing it in Europe the last two seasons with some unreal shooting numbers. He's shooting over 55% from the field and his three ball is now respectable. Combine that with a decent ability to get to the line. His one drawback is that he's not much of a passer, which at 5'11" would limit how good he'd be in the NBA, but he certainly could play. There's a reason the Spurs were trying to sign this guy in the offseason.

[Rooster]

Always makes me curious as to how he would do in the NBA. But then I think of Anthony Parker. Who was a solid NBA player, don't get it twisted, but I think Bo should stay in Europe and carry on being the man for many years.

He should stay in Europe. He'll probably sit in the bench like what happened to Jeremy Pargo. At least in minor league scene like Europe he is a star.

[Eric Cartman]

McCalebb has been killing it in Europe the last two seasons with some unreal shooting numbers. He's shooting over 55% from the field and his three ball is now respectable. Combine that with a decent ability to get to the line. His one drawback is that he's not much of a passer, which at 5'11" would limit how good he'd be in the NBA, but he certainly could play. There's a reason the Spurs were trying to sign this guy in the offseason.

If a guy like Barea (5'10 at best) can find a rotation spot i'm pretty sure McCalebb could as well.

Euroleague hate aside, dude is a beast.

[TaLvsCuaL]

McCalebb is better than many nba starters.

[Hittin_Shots]

boston sucks. they got schooled by a division II reject.

http://www.nba.com/games/20101007/LALBAR/gameinfo.html

[Euroleague]

I hate to break it to you morons, but Bo McCalebb is NOT the best PG in the Euroleague. He's definitely top 5, and MAYBE even top 2-3.

But he's for sure not the best.

[Euroleague]

wherever he goes, his team makes the semifinals/final fours no matter how bad they were before that

Yes, including the year that Siena made the final four without him even playing..........

[ralph_i_el]

bo could obviously be a solid starting guard in the NBA but he's making planty of money being the man in europe. probably all about those euro hoes. why is everyone so surprised when there's good players in the euroleague? He was owning boston in star fashion

[Euroleague]

boston sucks. they got schooled by a division II reject.

McCalebb is one of the top scorers in Division ONE history. Why the **** do you keep saying hundreds of times in this site that he played in Division two?

STFU

[Euroleague]

He should stay in Europe. He'll probably sit in the bench like what happened to Jeremy Pargo. At least in minor league scene like Europe he is a star.

First of all, they are different kinds of players. Pargo is big and he's incredibly athletic. I mean he's an absolute complete freak athletically.

He also was not a "star" in Euroleague. He was a good shooting guard (playing point guard) in his ability to score around the rim and penetrate and handle the ball. But he sure the hell was no star.

In fact, almost his whole offense came from being left open by the opposing defenses, because Schortsanitis was drawing triple teams in the low post on every possession.

When people here make these retarded comments about players without ever seeing them play, or being able to put it into context, it really shows what ****ing trolls and retards they are.

Pargo is bigger and way more athletic than McCalebb, but he does not have the same creativity offensively or the same ability to get his shot off.

Pargo is just a stereotypical NBA style point guard with big body and a good handle and low basketball IQ and skills. Although he is in the extreme upper tier of NBA athletic levels.

McCalebb is a different player from that. He's got a lot of natural scoring ability and the ability to create his own shots. He does not need his center to get triple teamed on every possession to get his offense and he's crazy efficient for a 6-0 (in shoes - yes that his measured height by NBA) tall guard.

He's very athletic, but not close to Pargo level in that way. The thing that REALLY makes him overrated though is that people totally ignore that he has almost zero point guard skills. He has a great handle, but beyond that nothing.

His passing is poor, he has no court vision, he does not create for others, he's just adequate at running an offense. He's totally a 6-0 shooting guard playing point guard, but with great quickness and scoring ability. Something similar to a guy like Aaron Brooks, only I think stronger and more aggressive.

But he's really totally lacking in any basic point guard skills other than dribbling, which he is great at.

Basically, he is the anti-Rubio. Great scoring and efficiency on offense and no point guard skills, the 180 opposite of Rubio.

Pargo is basically a freak athlete that benefited from playing with a center on Maccabi that was triple teamed on every possession.

So sorry to burst your bubble, but McCalebb is light years a better player than Pargo is.

[Euroleague]

bo could obviously be a solid starting guard in the NBA but he's making planty of money being the man in europe. probably all about those euro hoes. why is everyone so surprised when there's good players in the euroleague? He was owning boston in star fashion

Because they have never in their lives seen a Euroleague game, and because people like Stephen A. Smith told them on ESPN that everyone in Euroleague is a "short, slow, non athletic, stiff", AKA "white guy" AKA in the minds of 90% of NBA fans (otherwise known as blacks that are racists) - can't play basketball.

[gabepizza]

McCalebb is one of the top scorers in Division ONE history. Why the **** do you keep saying hundreds of times in this site that he played in Division two?

STFU

Yes you're right. He played in Division I. People are probably confused because he played on such a weak Division I team (New Orleans) in such a weak Division I conference (Sun Belt). I mean he was once voted player of the year of the Sun Belt Conference and was not even drafted by any NBA team. I don't even think he was invited to an NBA training camp as a free agent and went immediately to Mersin which isn't even a Euroleague, Eurochallenge or Eurocup team.

[gabepizza]

First of all, they are different kinds of players. Pargo is big and he's incredibly athletic. I mean he's an absolute complete freak athletically.

He also was not a "star" in Euroleague. He was a good shooting guard (playing point guard) in his ability to score around the rim and penetrate and handle the ball. But he sure the hell was no star.

In fact, almost his whole offense came from being left open by the opposing defenses, because Schortsanitis was drawing triple teams in the low post on every possession.

When people here make these retarded comments about players without ever seeing them play, or being able to put it into context, it really shows what ****ing trolls and retards they are.

Pargo is bigger and way more athletic than McCalebb, but he does not have the same creativity offensively or the same ability to get his shot off.

Pargo is just a stereotypical NBA style point guard with big body and a good handle and low basketball IQ and skills. Although he is in the extreme upper tier of NBA athletic levels.

McCalebb is a different player from that. He's got a lot of natural scoring ability and the ability to create his own shots. He does not need his center to get triple teamed on every possession to get his offense and he's crazy efficient for a 6-0 (in shoes - yes that his measured height by NBA) tall guard.

He's very athletic, but not close to Pargo level in that way. The thing that REALLY makes him overrated though is that people totally ignore that he has almost zero point guard skills. He has a great handle, but beyond that nothing.

His passing is poor, he has no court vision, he does not create for others, he's just adequate at running an offense. He's totally a 6-0 shooting guard playing point guard, but with great quickness and scoring ability. Something similar to a guy like Aaron Brooks, only I think stronger and more aggressive.

But he's really totally lacking in any basic point guard skills other than dribbling, which he is great at.

Basically, he is the anti-Rubio. Great scoring and efficiency on offense and no point guard skills, the 180 opposite of Rubio.

Pargo is basically a freak athlete that benefited from playing with a center on Maccabi that was triple teamed on every possession.

So sorry to burst your bubble, but McCalebb is light years a better player than Pargo is.

Again with the lies. Pargo was selected to All-Euroleague second team which means that in 2011 official Euroleague people, not a crazed troll like yourself, voted Pargo as the 2nd best PG in Europe. If being selected to all-Euroleague 2nd team is not being a star then there are only 5 "stars" in all of Euroleague.

[Rowe]

Yes you're right. He played in Division I. People are probably confused because he played on such a weak Division I team (New Orleans) in such a weak Division I conference (Sun Belt). I mean he was once voted player of the year of the Sun Belt Conference and was not even drafted by any NBA team. I don't even think he was invited to an NBA training camp as a free agent and went immediately to Mersin which isn't even a Euroleague, Eurochallenge or Eurocup team.


I do remember Bo played for the Sacramento Kings.

[upside24]

He's fun to watch. Leaves me wondering what he could do in the NBA.

[Euroleague]

Yes you're right. He played in Division I. People are probably confused because he played on such a weak Division I team (New Orleans) in such a weak Division I conference (Sun Belt). I mean he was once voted player of the year of the Sun Belt Conference and was not even drafted by any NBA team. I don't even think he was invited to an NBA training camp as a free agent and went immediately to Mersin which isn't even a Euroleague, Eurochallenge or Eurocup team.

And wtf is your point? He didn't play in Division II, but that ****ing PIECE OF SHIT Nick Young keeps saying he did in dozens of posts in this forum.

You accuse me of being a "liar' when I only tell true things and don't make stuff up or lie. But because it pisses you off, I get called a "liar".

But then ****ing PIECES OF SHIT like Nick Young make up lies like that here all the time and no one like you, that acts all high and mighty and like they are concerned with "truth" and being "fair and objective" never says a word about it.

You and Grinder should join forces, you are equally as hypocritical and full of shit as each other.

And why the hell did you mention EuroChallenge in your post? How many times do European fans have to explain this to you? EuroChallenge is a VERY VERY VERY low level in Europe. It contains second division teams, and semi pro teams. As in second divisions of national leagues and teams from semi pro national leagues.

They will have 2-3 maybe low level teams from say the French League, which is one of the crappiest fully pro national leagues in Europe, or something like that. There is no reason for you to even mention the EuroChallenge in your post. Did you not even know that the Spanish League does not even compete in EuroChallenge? They don't compete because the level is too low for any of their teams.

The only way a Spanish League team can compete in EuroChallenge is if they get an invite and file a waiver claim with the ACB allowing them to play. The Greek League does not even allow their teams to play in it at all. 4-5 years ago they actually banned any Greek clubs from playing in it, because it was considered detrimental to the clubs if they played at such a low level.

So why the **** do you think playing in EuroChallenge means something? WTF is wrong with you? Every damn European fan in this forum has told you what a freaking joke the EuroChallenge is and how incredibly low the level of it is, yet you keep acting like it holds some kind of legit place in European basketball. Why is it so hard for you to stop being a douche bag?

[SourPatchKids]

If he had NBA level athleticism/quickness he could be very very good.

[kNIOKAS]

If he had NBA level athleticism/quickness he could be very very good.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

oh my god, please tell me he doesn't.

[Euroleague]

Again with the lies. Pargo was selected to All-Euroleague second team which means that in 2011 official Euroleague people, not a crazed troll like yourself, voted Pargo as the 2nd best PG in Europe. If being selected to all-Euroleague 2nd team is not being a star then there are only 5 "stars" in all of Euroleague.

Who the **** cares about the god damn stupid all Euroleague team? I already told you, he was playing on a team whose center was triple teamed on every possession.

He got open looks and shots and driving chances all game long, and got easy scores. His team went to the final four so he got voted in the team.

It's that simple.

YOU ARE AN INCREDIBLY STUPID MOTHER****ER and a real IGNORANT DICKHEAD

Go ****ing log into Interbasket and tell the people there that Pargo was one of the 5 best players in Euroleague. You will be ****ing laughed off the forum, if you are even not banned within a few posts.

McCalebb has been in all Euroleague second team, so you are trying to claim Pargo is equal to him.

MY ****ING GOD YOUR LEVEL OF IDIOCY IS ASTONISHING

You try telling Euroleague fans Pargo is as good as McCalebb (as you imply with your all Euroleague BULL SHIT) and you will be banned from that forum without any doubt.

You are a ****ing god damn joke.

[kNIOKAS]

Who the **** cares about the god damn stupid all Euroleague team? I already told you, he was playing on a team whose center was triple teamed on every possession.

He got open looks and shots and driving chances all game long, and got easy scores. His team went to the final four so he got voted in the team.

It's that simple.

YOU ARE AN INCREDIBLY STUPID MOTHER****ER and a real IGNORANT DICKHEAD

Go ****ing log into Interbasket and tell the people there that Pargo was one of the 5 best players in Euroleague. You will be ****ing laughed off the forum, if you are even not banned within a few posts.

McCalebb has been in all Euroleague second team, so you are trying to claim Pargo is equal to him.

MY ****ING GOD YOUR LEVEL OF IDIOCY IS ASTONISHING

You try telling Euroleague fans Pargo is as good as McCalebb (as you imply with your all Euroleague BULL SHIT) and you will be banned from that forum without any doubt.

You are a ****ing god damn joke.
:lol

When Euroleague tells you you're ****ing god damn joke, you know.

[Euroleague]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

oh my god, please tell me he doesn't.

What's sad is that there are some NBA fans like you, that actually think the average NBA fan that comments in this forum even knows what the Euroleague is.

:rolleyes:

[SourPatchKids]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

oh my god, please tell me he doesn't.
He doesn't.

[Euroleague]

He doesn't.

Ty Lawson wasn't able to beat his man off the dribble in Euroleague most of the time. Ty Lawson is much slower than McCalebb is.

McCalebb also supposedly has like a 40 inch vertical.

You remind me of the NBA only fans that claim Nikos Galis wasn't athletic enough to play in the NBA, even though he had a 400 pound bench press, a 40 inch vertical, and could hang in the air as long as Jordan could.......

You are a complete dumb ass.

[kNIOKAS]

He doesn't.
You took this literary. And failed. I wouldn't laugh because it's not funny anymore... Watch the tape, son.


It's funny how Euroleague has everybody under his gun :lol I've supported you bro, on couple occassions. But I guess the truth doesn't look back at that :oldlol:

[CavaliersFTW]

Ty Lawson wasn't able to beat his man off the dribble in Euroleague most of the time. Ty Lawson is much slower than McCalebb is.

McCalebb also supposedly has like a 40 inch vertical.

You remind me of the NBA only fans that claim Nikos Galis wasn't athletic enough to play in the NBA, even though he had a 400 pound bench press, a 40 inch vertical, and could hang in the air as long as Jordan could.......

You are a complete dumb ass.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UygMq62YvPo&t=21s

Quick name search on Youtube... very first clip he beats his man off the dribble. You are so blind with bias you aren't even aware how full of shit you are :lol

[SourPatchKids]

His change of speed is terrific, but I doubt he has a 40 inch vertical. And saying Bo is much faster than Ty is just unreal. my bad though, I didn't watch the last 1:30 of highlights the first time around. But from I've seen he's explosive but more so crafty. Link me to some of his finer highlights.

[kNIOKAS]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UygMq62YvPo&t=21s

Quick name search on Youtube... very first clip he beats his man off the dribble. You are so blind with bias you aren't even aware how full of shit you are :lol
Well, he was a big disappointment for Zalgiris. He couldn't really do much, let alone play a point guard... He got to the NBA, and he started scoring quick. I think a guy like Ty Lawson wouldn't do good in the Europe. He's just not fit for that.

[Euroleague]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UygMq62YvPo&t=21s

Quick name search on Youtube... very first clip he beats his man off the dribble. You are so blind with bias you aren't even aware how full of shit you are :lol

Ty Lawson maybe could beat his man off the dribble 1 out of 5 times he tried in Euroleague.

You are a sick lying POS.

Piss off ******.

[Euroleague]

His change of speed is terrific, but I doubt he has a 40 inch vertical. And saying Bo is much faster than Ty is just unreal. my bad though, I didn't watch the last 1:30 of highlights the first time around. But from I've seen he's explosive but more so crafty. Link me to some of his finer highlights.

**** off.

[SourPatchKids]

**** off.
http://s2.favim.com/orig/28/gif-gun-pretty-zooey-deschanel-Favim.com-233033.gif

[CavaliersFTW]

Ty Lawson maybe could beat his man off the dribble 1 out of 5 times he tried in Euroleague.

You are a sick lying POS.

Piss off ******.
Where did I tell a lie? :confusedshrug:

[upside24]

**** off.
:facepalm

[gabepizza]

Who the **** cares about the god damn stupid all Euroleague team? I already told you, he was playing on a team whose center was triple teamed on every possession.

He got open looks and shots and driving chances all game long, and got easy scores. His team went to the final four so he got voted in the team.

It's that simple.

YOU ARE AN INCREDIBLY STUPID MOTHER****ER and a real IGNORANT DICKHEAD

Go ****ing log into Interbasket and tell the people there that Pargo was one of the 5 best players in Euroleague. You will be ****ing laughed off the forum, if you are even not banned within a few posts.

McCalebb has been in all Euroleague second team, so you are trying to claim Pargo is equal to him.

MY ****ING GOD YOUR LEVEL OF IDIOCY IS ASTONISHING

You try telling Euroleague fans Pargo is as good as McCalebb (as you imply with your all Euroleague BULL SHIT) and you will be banned from that forum without any doubt.

You are a ****ing god damn joke.

First off I never said he was as good as McCalebb I just said he was a star in Euroleague an his all-Euroleague selection proves it. In fact in 2011 Pargo was actually better than McCalebb because Pargo was selected to All-Euroleague 2nd team over him In I never said top 5, but for 2011 he could have been called top 10.

And who cares about all-Euroleague teams? Well I'm sure the players selected for them are. It's an honor to be officially chosen as one of the top players in Euroleague by Euroleague itself.

And Real Madrid and Montepaschi Siena both made the Final-Four as well and had only one all-Euroleague team selection while both Schortsanitis and Pargo were chosen from Tel Aviv.

[Euroleague]

First off I never said he was as good as McCalebb I just said he was a star in Euroleague an his all-Euroleague selection proves it. In fact in 2011 Pargo was actually better than McCalebb because Pargo was selected to All-Euroleague 2nd team over him In I never said top 5, but for 2011 he could have been called top 10.

And who cares about all-Euroleague teams? Well I'm sure the players selected for them are. It's an honor to be officially chosen as one of the top players in Euroleague by Euroleague itself.

And Real Madrid and Montepaschi Siena both made the Final-Four as well and had only one all-Euroleague team selection while both Schortsanitis and Pargo were chosen from Tel Aviv.

He wasn't a star in Euroleague. You are a ****ing moron. Do you even know what it means for a player to be a "star"? You ****ing think being in all Euroleague team makes you a "star"? You are such a simpleton it is pathetic.

[Kevin Love]

damn this goat ****ing greek cracker euroleague got a major napoleonic complex for being part of genetically inferior race for basketball

lmao

[gabepizza]

He wasn't a star in Euroleague. You are a ****ing moron. Do you even know what it means for a player to be a "star"? You ****ing think being in all Euroleague team makes you a "star"? You are such a simpleton it is pathetic.


Yes it does. Just as being selected to all-NBA teams mean you are a star in the NBA being selected to all-Euroleague teams mean you are a star in Euroleague. It means you are in the top 2 of your position and arguably the top 10 players in the league.

[Euroleague]

Yes it does. Just as being selected to all-NBA teams mean you are a star in the NBA being selected to all-Euroleague teams mean you are a star in Euroleague. It means you are in the top 2 of your position and arguably the top 10 players in the league.

No, it does not.

[gabepizza]

No, it does not.


Who am I, and everyone else here to believe? One delusional poster who everyone makes fun of and even has the monitor label as a "crazed troll" or the people giving out official Euroleague awards? Hmmmmm...let me think about that one.

[Euroleague]

Who am I, and everyone else here to believe? One delusional poster who everyone makes fun of and even has the monitor label as a "crazed troll" or the people giving out official Euroleague awards? Hmmmmm...let me think about that one.

You are a retard. You are claiming that Pargo was the second best PG in Euroleague, "at the least".

The problem is that Pargo was NEVER in the top 2 best point guards in Euroleague. NEVER.

That is why you are such a HUGE freaking idiot. Good god, Sergio Freaking Llull made all Euroleague second team once. This guy MIGHT be in the range of 50th - 60th best players in Euroleague, and that is probably being overly generous.

According to your deranged idiotic "logic", he must be one of the 10 best players in Euroleague. Gezzus freaking christ you are a moron.

[gabepizza]

You are a retard. You are claiming that Pargo was the second best PG in Euroleague, "at the least".

The problem is that Pargo was NEVER in the top 2 best point guards in Euroleague. NEVER.

That is why you are such a HUGE freaking idiot. Good god, Sergio Freaking Llull made all Euroleague second team once. This guy MIGHT be in the range of 50th - 60th best players in Euroleague, and that is probably being overly generous.

According to your deranged idiotic "logic", he must be one of the 10 best players in Euroleague. Gezzus freaking christ you are a moron.

Again who are we going to trust? You or people who hand out these awards? Being voted all-Euroleague 2nd team means that people (probably a mix of coaches, media, fans) agree that the player was the 2nd best in his position. Why else vote him on the team? You can't argue with facts. You can deny it forever but the fact is these players were selected for these honors because an official selection committee choose them. If there was an all-Euroleague crazed troll team it would be different but for the official all-Euroleague team Pargo and Lull were chosen. Sorry.

[Fiba basketball]

Who am I, and everyone else here to believe? One delusional poster who everyone makes fun of and even has the monitor label as a "crazed troll" or the people giving out official Euroleague awards? Hmmmmm...let me think about that one.
Two years ago Teodosic was voted best European player , only Gasol had more experts votes ( around 10 more ) but Teodosic had a lot more fan votes and thats why he won . So according to experts that give out the award Teodosic was better than Dirk , who should I trust those experts or people like fans on this forum ? So do you see whats wrong with your logic now and why Pargo wasn't consider a star ?

[Euroleague]

Two years ago Teodosic was voted best European player , only Gasol had more experts votes ( around 10 more ) but Teodosic had a lot more fan votes and thats why he won . So according to experts that give out the award Teodosic was better than Dirk , who should I trust those experts or people like fans on this forum ? So do you see whats wrong with your logic now and why Pargo wasn't consider a star ?

No, he does not see it. Because he clearly has no logic. gabepizza is obviously a retard.

[jdm_dc_fan]

There are a lot of NBA worthy players in the euroleague. what's new?

[chains5000]

He's not the best PG in Europe IMO, I'd rather have Diamantidis than him.

[alenleomessi]

He's not the best PG in Europe IMO, I'd rather have Diamantidis than him.
Replace Bo with Diamantidis and we would have/will never make the euros again and let alone be 4th.

[chains5000]

Replace Bo with Diamantidis and we would have/will never make the euros again and let alone be 4th.
Different players, different needs.

[gabepizza]

Two years ago Teodosic was voted best European player , only Gasol had more experts votes ( around 10 more ) but Teodosic had a lot more fan votes and thats why he won . So according to experts that give out the award Teodosic was better than Dirk , who should I trust those experts or people like fans on this forum ? So do you see whats wrong with your logic now and why Pargo wasn't consider a star ?


You're talking about a different award. Best European player is not an official Euroleague award and is more arbitrary. All Euroleague team is an official Euroleague award. It's like claiming a player who was on the all-NBA second team was not a star in the NBA.

[Rooster]

Two years ago Teodosic was voted best European player , only Gasol had more experts votes ( around 10 more ) but Teodosic had a lot more fan votes and thats why he won . So according to experts that give out the award Teodosic was better than Dirk , who should I trust those experts or people like fans on this forum ? So do you see whats wrong with your logic now and why Pargo wasn't consider a star ?

Bottomline is Pargo was one of the best PGs in Euroleague but he's a third string point guard in the NBA. :oldlol:

[kNIOKAS]

damn this goat ****ing greek cracker euroleague got a major napoleonic complex for being part of genetically inferior race for basketball

lmao
And you I can see have some Hitler-ish problems going

[Fiba basketball]

You're talking about a different award. Best European player is not an official Euroleague award and is more arbitrary. All Euroleague team is an official Euroleague award. It's like claiming a player who was on the all-NBA second team was not a star in the NBA.
If I m not wrong award for best European player is an official award so using you logic I wouldn't be wrong if I said Teodosic was best European player but he isn't no matter the award he got and the same goes for Pargo , he was in all Euroleague second team but he wasn't a star or a top 5 pg in Europe .

[Fiba basketball]

Different players, different needs. This . Thats why I think you can argue between Teodosic , Bo and DD for best pg in Europe .

[gabepizza]

If I m not wrong award for best European player is an official award so using you logic I wouldn't be wrong if I said Teodosic was best European player but he isn't no matter the award he got and the same goes for Pargo , he was in all Euroleague second team but he wasn't a star or a top 5 pg in Europe .


So why was he given the award? Was it because of the fans? That means he was popular and a star. Was it the media and/or coaches? That means Euroleague professionals believed he was a top 2 pg in Europe.

And it could be argued that Teodosic was the best European player of the year in 2010 because he was Euroleague MVP was in the Euroleague final and was voted FIBA WC all tournament team while Dirk and Pau skipped that competition. So it could be argued that in 2010 Teodosic was the best European player and he was definitely one of the best. Just as in 2011 it could be argued that Pargo was the 2nd best pg in Europe and he was definitely one of the best and therefore a star. So whatever reason he was voted as the 2nd best pg in Euroleague, be it the fans, coaches, or media, it carries some weight.

[Euroleague]

Barca 99 - Dallas Mavericks 85

Should have been 101 - 85, but the refs wrongly took away a basket from Barca.

Box Score:

http://www.nba.com/games/20121009/DALFCB/gameinfo.html?ls=gt2hp0011200018

[Euroleague]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/basketball/nba/wires/10/09/2030.ap.bko.barcelona.mavericks.1st.ld.writethru.0 451/

Rick Carlisle:

"Barca is a great team. I admire the way they pass, move the ball, cut and make screens. They had the advantage the whole game. Barca is an NBA team.''