Predict our record

[Court Vision]

How many think we hit 50 wins?

I'm going just shy of 50 wins, at 48-34, 2nd in the Atlantic in a close race with Boston.

[Rameek]

I predict 42 -40 around .500. Considering all the injuries, inability to play cohesive (built in excuses already with Shump and Brewer out), age on this team this would be about where the talent is.

The ceiling for me is 44 wins but can easily be mid 30's based on history.

[Clutch]

2010-11: 42-40
2011-12: 45-37 (it was actually 36-30 but that's what you get if you show it like a 82 game season record)

I think that we have a better team than we had in 2 previous seasons. Also we have a better coach. I say we'll finish with the 49-33 record.

[Court Vision]

I predict 42 -40 around .500. Considering all the injuries, inability to play cohesive (built in excuses already with Shump and Brewer out), age on this team this would be about where the talent is.

The ceiling for me is 44 wins but can easily be mid 30's based on history.

I completely forgot Shump and Brewer will miss time to start the season (been playing too much 2k13 with them in the games)

The age doesn't bother me; I think Kidd will give us good spurts, and I still think Camby has enough in him to fit his role adequately. As for 'Sheed and Kurt, I don't think they will be given a long enough leash for their age to effect the team negatively.

If we fall into the 30s in wins, under .500 which is a step backwards, I can only imagine what the STAT and 'Melo haters will be saying.

[knickscity]

Max of 53, but as a betting man, i'll safely say 47, with a bottom out of 43 pending a ton of injuries.

[bluechox2]

injuries already and its only preseason

i say 45-44 wins

if the last 2 seasons were any indications, we will get hit hard again

[Clutch]

I looked at our schedule and decided to make a list of all afternoon games we'll play.

Sunday , Nov. 4 - vs 76ers 12:00 PM
Sunday , Nov. 18 - vs Pacers 12:00 PM
Sunday , Nov. 25 - vs Pistons 12:00 PM
Sunday , Dec. 2 - vs Suns 12:00 PM
Sunday , Dec. 23 - vs Wolves 5:00 PM
Tuesday , Dec.25 - @ Lakers 3:00 PM on ABC
Sunday , Jan. 11 - vs Hornets 12:00 PM
Monday , Jan. 21 - vs Nets 3:30 PM on NBA TV
Sunday , Feb. 10 - vs Clippers 1:00 PM on ABC
Sunday , Mar. 3 - vs Heat 1:00 PM on ABC
Sunday , Mar. 17 - @ Clippers 3:30 PM on ABC
Sunday , Apr. 7 - @ Thunder 1:00 PM on ABC
Sunday , Apr. 14 - vs Pacers 3:30 PM

So we have 13 games,10 of them will be played at MSG. I especially look forward towards those games because for those who live in Europe it's the opportunity to watch basketball in normal time (around 6-7 PM,all other games are around 1-2 AM which is pretty late).
Also some of the Knicks best wins last season came in the afternoon games (Celtics on Christmas,Bulls where Melo hit those threes,Mavs...).

I didn't know where to put this so I decided to put it in this thread. Hopefully it will be helpful to some other European Knicks fans.
I assume Jasi loves these afternoon games. :D

[Court Vision]

I looked at our schedule and decided to make a list of all afternoon games we'll play.

Sunday , Nov. 4 - vs 76ers 12:00 PM
Sunday , Nov. 18 - vs Pacers 12:00 PM
Sunday , Nov. 25 - vs Pistons 12:00 PM
Sunday , Dec. 2 - vs Suns 12:00 PM
Sunday , Dec. 23 - vs Wolves 5:00 PM
Tuesday , Dec.25 - @ Lakers 3:00 PM on ABC
Sunday , Jan. 11 - vs Hornets 12:00 PM
Monday , Jan. 21 - vs Nets 3:30 PM on NBA TV
Sunday , Feb. 10 - vs Clippers 1:00 PM on ABC
Sunday , Mar. 3 - vs Heat 1:00 PM on ABC
Sunday , Mar. 17 - @ Clippers 3:30 PM on ABC
Sunday , Apr. 7 - @ Thunder 1:00 PM on ABC
Sunday , Apr. 14 - vs Pacers 3:30 PM

So we have 13 games,10 of them will be played at MSG. I especially look forward towards those games because for those who live in Europe it's the opportunity to watch basketball in normal time (around 6-7 PM,all other games are around 1-2 AM which is pretty late).
Also some of the Knicks best wins last season came in the afternoon games (Celtics on Christmas,Bulls where Melo hit those threes,Mavs...).

I didn't know where to put this so I decided to put it in this thread. Hopefully it will be helpful to some other European Knicks fans.
I assume Jasi loves these afternoon games. :D

I don't mind Sunday afternoon games, but they are almost always sloppy and sluggish coming out of the gate.

[Bano114]

66-0 :pimp:

Oh wait were playing 82 games this season?

42-40

[Sarcastic]

55-27. This is a talented team, and it seems everyone is selling them short.

[airchibundo507]

55-27. This is a talented team, and it seems everyone is selling them short.

I like it, though. People had higher expectations for us entering last season and that roster had half the talent this one does. I expect 54-56 wins with HCA in Round 1 and an epic battle with Boston in the second round.

[franchize]

I'm going to say 45-37. I think we may get off to a slow start then pick up steam, especially after the All Star break. I'd actually prefer we gradually pick up steam. That way we'll gain some momentum going into the playoffs. Health will play a huge part in our season. Not just Iman and Amare's health or even Melo, but you would have to assume with all the elderly on our roster that we our likeliness to have injuries has been ratcheded up some.

[Rameek]

For the people that predict plus 45 wins explain it....

Just to say this team is talented isnt enough IMHO. You have an average PG in Felton, You have a crusty Jkidd, You have a very good defensive Center that loves techs, You have a great scorer in Melo, you have Stat who knows what he is, Shump great on ball defender young, Camby can rebound and block shots

No one else is consequential! You need great talent to win in this league or a great coach that can get the most out of his players...

The Knicks have neither but they have some talent and a coach that isnt special. That doesnt equate to 50 plus wins in the NBA.

[Court Vision]

For the people that predict plus 45 wins explain it....

Just to say this team is talented isnt enough IMHO. You have an average PG in Felton, You have a crusty Jkidd, You have a very good defensive Center that loves techs, You have a great scorer in Melo, you have Stat who knows what he is, Shump great on ball defender young, Camby can rebound and block shots

No one else is consequential! You need great talent to win in this league or a great coach that can get the most out of his players...

The Knicks have neither but they have some talent and a coach that isnt special. That doesnt equate to 50 plus wins in the NBA.



STAT knows what he is? Which is what? An MVP candidate two seasons ago?

Novak doesn't miss.

JR Smith is one of the most offensively talented wing players in the game.

If you draw out last year to an 82 game season, the Knicks winning percentage would give you ~45 wins, so an improvement from that isn't out of the ordinary.

[Sarcastic]

For the people that predict plus 45 wins explain it....

Just to say this team is talented isnt enough IMHO. You have an average PG in Felton, You have a crusty Jkidd, You have a very good defensive Center that loves techs, You have a great scorer in Melo, you have Stat who knows what he is, Shump great on ball defender young, Camby can rebound and block shots

No one else is consequential! You need great talent to win in this league or a great coach that can get the most out of his players...

The Knicks have neither but they have some talent and a coach that isnt special. That doesnt equate to 50 plus wins in the NBA.




We won 43 with Mike D'Antoni, who didn't know his ass from his elbow as a coach. Now we our stars healthy, a full training camp for the first time, and a competent coach. The old guys are our bench. Our core is players are predominantly in the middle of their prime.

Knicks were 18-6 under Woodson. That projects to 61.5 wins for the year. I think going with 55 wins was conservative.

[knickscity]

This is not a .500 team. It would take massive injuries for that to happen.

[airchibundo507]

We will be a Top 3 defense with Chandler and Camby protecting the paint (top 5 defense last year and probably best defense in the league after Woodson took over).

The Olympics kept Melo in shape and motivated over the offseason so he should start off the season at MVP level.

Amare worked with Hakeem to expand offensive game.

We now have point guards that won't turn the ball over every other possession simply bringing the ball up the floor or throwing ungodly alley oops. They aren't perfect but they can get the ball to out go-to guys where they are comfortable scoring, which is not a luxury we had last year.

Off-season to gel and develop chemistry on offense.

At the very least considering injury potential, 50 wins. And I'd bet money on that.

[Sarcastic]

We will be a Top 3 defense with Chandler and Camby protecting the paint (top 5 defense last year and probably best defense in the league after Woodson took over).

The Olympics kept Melo in shape and motivated over the offseason so he should start off the season at MVP level.

Amare worked with Hakeem to expand offensive game.

We now have point guards that won't turn the ball over every other possession simply bringing the ball up the floor or throwing ungodly alley oops. They aren't perfect but they can get the ball to out go-to guys where they are comfortable scoring, which is not a luxury we had last year.

Off-season to gel and develop chemistry on offense.

At the very least considering injury potential, 50 wins. And I'd bet money on that.


http://linemakers.sportingnews.com/nba/2012-10-02/nba-season-win-totals-future-odds-over-unders-las-vegas-heat-lakers-thunder

Vegas put the over/under on us at 45.5 wins. I'm taking the over. Easy money.

[knickscity]

They low numbers all across the board.

Very charitable.

[Court Vision]

To keep on the same prediction note, which veteran big man plays in the most games this year: 'Sheed, Camby, or Kurt?

[bluechox2]

Kurt probably will play the most, he looks to be in good shape

[Rameek]

It's amazing that you all predict 50 plus wins without Shump and Brewer.... I mean this is crazy.

Every year people say the same things..... This year they have this, added that, all these wins just because xyz....

The coach preaches defense but thats great but he isnt technically sound in the least. So the high hopes this is a coach that can turn these guys into a 50 plus win team is a reach. No evidence in the slightest that Melo, Stat, and Chandler can co-exist under any coach. Yet thats the assumption? Really.

[franchize]

It's amazing that you all predict 50 plus wins without Shump and Brewer.... I mean this is crazy.

Every year people say the same things..... This year they have this, added that, all these wins just because xyz....

The coach preaches defense but thats great but he isnt technically sound in the least. So the high hopes this is a coach that can turn these guys into a 50 plus win team is a reach. No evidence in the slightest that Melo, Stat, and Chandler can co-exist under any coach. Yet thats the assumption? Really.



Actually most people had us winning below 50 games. Most ppl were around the 45 win threshold.

[Rameek]

Actually most people had us winning below 50 games. Most ppl were around the 45 win threshold.
45 wins isnt terrible but honestly that means the Knicks wont miss Brewer and Shump.... That means the low post players are extremely cohesive and JR doesnt 20% shoot the team out of games. JKidd finds an offensive game especially from the perimeter. I mean this team still doesnt have shooters or anyone that can penetrate and create..

[airchibundo507]

45 wins isnt terrible but honestly that means the Knicks wont miss Brewer and Shump.... That means the low post players are extremely cohesive and JR doesnt 20% shoot the team out of games. JKidd finds an offensive game especially from the perimeter. I mean this team still doesnt have shooters or anyone that can penetrate and create..

Brewer's injury isn't that serious. We should have him back around the start of the season.

Say what you want about Kidd, but he can initiate the offense without turning the ball over frequently and get the ball to our go-to guys where they are most comfortable scoring.

We do have shooters... Melo, JR, Kidd, Novak
Guys that can penetrate... Melo, Felton and to some extent JR

I'm not saying that our offense will be beautiful. We won't have the best spacing in the league. But we will win most games solely based on defense. Again, under Woodson we had the highest defensive rating in the league. That's with Jeffries missing every other game and Harrelson getting major burn. Add Camby to that equation and the Knicks should definitely be in the running for the best defense in the league.

The injuries won't be as devastating now that they're running a normal schedule. Melo is in MVP form.

So basically.. elite defense with two shotblocking anchors + top 3 scorer in the league in MVP form + competent point guards = at least 50 wins

Last season was the most tumultuous, unlucky series of events for us and we still projected for 45 wins in a normal season, and now you guys don't even expect us to get to 50 wins? That's laughable.

[franchize]

45 wins isnt terrible but honestly that means the Knicks wont miss Brewer and Shump.... That means the low post players are extremely cohesive and JR doesnt 20% shoot the team out of games. JKidd finds an offensive game especially from the perimeter. I mean this team still doesnt have shooters or anyone that can penetrate and create..

Maybe we all have a different respect for 45 wins. I can't speak on behalf of anybody else, but 45 wins isn't anything to write home about. It's just above mediocre, hovering around decent heading into the playoffs. Not bad, but not a total fulfillment of talent given the talent in our starting lineup.

[Jasi]

I looked at our schedule and decided to make a list of all afternoon games we'll play.

Sunday , Nov. 4 - vs 76ers 12:00 PM
Sunday , Nov. 18 - vs Pacers 12:00 PM
Sunday , Nov. 25 - vs Pistons 12:00 PM
Sunday , Dec. 2 - vs Suns 12:00 PM
Sunday , Dec. 23 - vs Wolves 5:00 PM
Tuesday , Dec.25 - @ Lakers 3:00 PM on ABC
Sunday , Jan. 11 - vs Hornets 12:00 PM
Monday , Jan. 21 - vs Nets 3:30 PM on NBA TV
Sunday , Feb. 10 - vs Clippers 1:00 PM on ABC
Sunday , Mar. 3 - vs Heat 1:00 PM on ABC
Sunday , Mar. 17 - @ Clippers 3:30 PM on ABC
Sunday , Apr. 7 - @ Thunder 1:00 PM on ABC
Sunday , Apr. 14 - vs Pacers 3:30 PM

So we have 13 games,10 of them will be played at MSG. I especially look forward towards those games because for those who live in Europe it's the opportunity to watch basketball in normal time (around 6-7 PM,all other games are around 1-2 AM which is pretty late).
Also some of the Knicks best wins last season came in the afternoon games (Celtics on Christmas,Bulls where Melo hit those threes,Mavs...).

I didn't know where to put this so I decided to put it in this thread. Hopefully it will be helpful to some other European Knicks fans.
I assume Jasi loves these afternoon games. :D

You bet I love them, man.
Thanks for the list. Repped!

My prediction is 47 or 48 Wins.
I know Shump and Brewer are injured but this is why we won't get to 50+.
We were above .500 with Dumbtoni and .545 with half a season of Dumbtoni and freaking Toney Douglas at 18 MPG. Whatthef

[Clutch]

[QUOTE=Jasi]You bet I love them, man.
Thanks for the list. Repped!

My prediction is 47 or 48 Wins.
I know Shump and Brewer are injured but this is why we won't get to 50+.
We were above .500 with Dumbtoni and .545 with half a season of Dumbtoni and freaking Toney Douglas at 18 MPG. Whatthef

[Rameek]

Maybe we all have a different respect for 45 wins. I can't speak on behalf of anybody else, but 45 wins isn't anything to write home about. It's just above mediocre, hovering around decent heading into the playoffs. Not bad, but not a total fulfillment of talent given the talent in our starting lineup.
I agree with this. But I deal with reality and less feeling.

As much as it is assumed that Woodson is a better coach than MDA but in reality he isnt that much better. The difference between them is one is focused on defense the other is focused on offense. Neither are good game plan or in game adjustment coaches.

Had the Knicks ended the season with Melo, Chandler, Stat showing some signs of cohesiveness and potential for this season I would be on board with 45 wins or more. These players havent been cohesive by accident for any stretch.

What failed this team last year towards the end? The inability to have someone hit open shots, 3 pointers, penetrate for layups, penetrate for easy looks for the bigs. This team hasnt addressed these issues. So does this team have true depth that addressed these issues? Not IMHO.

airchibundo507:We do have shooters... Melo, JR, Kidd, Novak
Guys that can penetrate... Melo, Felton and to some extent JR
Kidd cant shoot, Novak can shoot if open you run at him he cant adjust teams will do what miami did against him if they're smart. Jr isnt a good shooter but a volume shooter. I wont say about Felton because I dont know what he will be this year but I hope for the best.
Melo and Jr can penetrate but its more score at the basket.

The good thing is with Felton and Jkidd they can get into an offensive set. The team has plenty of height. Jkidd fell off tremendously last year. Felton who knows what he will look like for this team without MDA. I mean he did look elite when he was here before but thats a different regime.

I dont see this overwhelming talent that others see where 4 players on the roster could legitimately start for EVERY other team under any circumstance. Is this team better than last year of course by a little or by a lot (its up to your discretion).

I dont care about the numbers under MDA and Woodson projected victories due to the change blah blah blah..... Neither coach is that good where they will secure the team victories by what they plan before or during the game.

Nothing this team has done besides getting older/taller addressed all my concerns. So if Melo, Chandler, Stat, Shump can get right on both ends of the floor hell ya they can be a 45 win plus team. If they dont it can be easily another 42 win or mid to high 30's win team. The team doesnt have a guy that can carry this team that can carry them alone or with a duo to guarantee this team wont fail.

[franchize]

I agree with this. But I deal with reality and less feeling.

As much as it is assumed that Woodson is a better coach than MDA but in reality he isnt that much better. The difference between them is one is focused on defense the other is focused on offense. Neither are good game plan or in game adjustment coaches.

Had the Knicks ended the season with Melo, Chandler, Stat showing some signs of cohesiveness and potential for this season I would be on board with 45 wins or more. These players havent been cohesive by accident for any stretch.

What failed this team last year towards the end? The inability to have someone hit open shots, 3 pointers, penetrate for layups, penetrate for easy looks for the bigs. This team hasnt addressed these issues. So does this team have true depth that addressed these issues? Not IMHO.

airchibundo507:We do have shooters... Melo, JR, Kidd, Novak
Guys that can penetrate... Melo, Felton and to some extent JR
Kidd cant shoot, Novak can shoot if open you run at him he cant adjust teams will do what miami did against him if they're smart. Jr isnt a good shooter but a volume shooter. I wont say about Felton because I dont know what he will be this year but I hope for the best.
Melo and Jr can penetrate but its more score at the basket.

The good thing is with Felton and Jkidd they can get into an offensive set. The team has plenty of height. Jkidd fell off tremendously last year. Felton who knows what he will look like for this team without MDA. I mean he did look elite when he was here before but thats a different regime.

I dont see this overwhelming talent that others see where 4 players on the roster could legitimately start for EVERY other team under any circumstance. Is this team better than last year of course by a little or by a lot (its up to your discretion).

I dont care about the numbers under MDA and Woodson projected victories due to the change blah blah blah..... Neither coach is that good where they will secure the team victories by what they plan before or during the game.

Nothing this team has done besides getting older/taller addressed all my concerns. So if Melo, Chandler, Stat, Shump can get right on both ends of the floor hell ya they can be a 45 win plus team. If they dont it can be easily another 42 win or mid to high 30's win team. The team doesnt have a guy that can carry this team that can carry them alone or with a duo to guarantee this team wont fail.

What failed the Knicks at the end of the season was the Miami Heat lol We lost to the champs. They were way better and we had our 3rd string PG out there. If you're talking regular season, well we ended that on a high note.

We were 36-30 last year with turmoil and tons of injuries. 45 wins isn't even an entire percentage point higher. It's damn near the same record as last year.

I do however strongly agree about us addressing needs. As you and the rest of the fellaz know, I was HIGHLY critical of the Jason Kidd acquisition. I like Camby but I didn't liek what we had to do to get him either. I think we pissed away our draft pick in a year where we only had a 2nd rounder. I didn't understand the Prigioni signing. Getting Rasheed Wallace seems like a waste of time. JR's brother Chris and Klay's brother Mychal Thompson are bums IMO. I liked the Brewer signing considering when we got him and the price but I don't expect to get any production out of James White or Chris Copeland. Kurt Thomas is like 3 years younger than my mom lol (no seriously...give or take a couple of years). I think the biggest success we had this offseason was the dead weight we got rid of...a lot of which we didn't accomplish ourselves.

[Sarcastic]

So many people undersold this team.

[Clutch]

So many people undersold this team.
So far the Knicks are on pace for a 62-20 record.

To be honest I doubt we'll get so many wins but I definitely think we should win 50+ games.

Let's see who'll be the closest at the end of the season:

Sarcastic 55-27
airchibundo507 55-27
Clutch 49-33
Jasi 48-34
Court Vision 48-34
knickscity 47-35
bluechox2 45-37
franchize 45-37
Rameek 43-39
Bano114 42-40

[Jasi]

My prediction was 48-34

[bluechox2]

hope i am wrong

[Clutch]

My prediction was 48-34
Sorry,I somehow missed yours. Updated

[knickscity]

I think they are working on my 53 max.:D

[franchize]

What do we get if we win? :lol

[Court Vision]

What do we get if we win? :lol

Respect.

[Jasi]

What do we get if we win? :lol

You get repped by Scoooter

[franchize]

You get repped by Scoooter

http://t.qkme.me/35ihia.jpg

[Rameek]

I had the high 44 low 42 so I'll split the difference.

43-39 that would be one hell of a losing streak :biggums: :facepalm

[Clutch]

I had the high 44 low 42 so I'll split the difference.

43-39 that would be one hell of a losing streak :biggums: :facepalm
If we just play .500 ball until the end of the season (precisely 30-31) we would finish with a 46-36 record.

[bluechox2]

If we just play .500 ball until the end of the season (precisely 30-31) we would finish with a 46-36 record.
hard to see that with the way we are still playing, unless something big goes down soon

[airchibundo507]

Sarcastic and I deserve rep for our comments throughout this thread. Absurd how you guys were calling this a 45 win team. We went 18-6 with pretty much only Melo, Chandler, JR, Shumpert, Baron Davis and Novak. Woodson knows what the hell he is doing.

[franchize]

Sarcastic and I deserve rep for our comments throughout this thread. Absurd how you guys were calling this a 45 win team. We went 18-6 with pretty much only Melo, Chandler, JR, Shumpert, Baron Davis and Novak. Woodson knows what the hell he is doing.
A lot of us have been Knicks fans all of our lives. :confusedshrug:

[Rameek]

A lot of us have been Knicks fans all of our lives. :confusedshrug:
Not only that but their are more teams struggling at this point. This was a terrible off season for many teams. The east is terrible at this point. Only 4 teams have a good record the rest mediocre records or terrible teams. On the contrary in the West that conference is strong at the top and the middle.

The Knicks has only lost to 2 Eastern Conference teams and they havent played everyone in their division yet. Boston, Miami, Brooklyn arent still who they will be we dont think at this point.

I want the Knicks to feast now through all the adversity of the early season its good. But the team might have a transition incorporating Shump, Stat, Camby. I hope Woodson eases them back in through practice and minimize game minutes.

[airchibundo507]

A lot of us have been Knicks fans all of our lives. :confusedshrug:

I probably would have been too if I had grown up in New York and been exposed to the Knicks from an early age. Unfortunately, I didn't have such a luxury, but having a favorite player instead of a favorite team doesn't make me any less a fan of basketball.

[Rameek]

I probably would have been too if I had grown up in New York and been exposed to the Knicks from an early age. Unfortunately, I didn't have such a luxury, but having a favorite player instead of a favorite team doesn't make me any less a fan of basketball.
But you are not a dedicated fan of the team. You didnt experience the travesties and failures. The empty promises. I wouldnt question your love of the game but I would question your loyalty to the team. You dont have the appropriate perspective to understand why all the apprehension and doubt. For this reason its already known you are not a Knicks fan but a PLAYER fan. Your opinion comes with a grain of salt in regards to the organization moves adjustments etc..... But as a basketball fan you may make valid points that can be respected.

Most of us Bleed for this you are a pseudo fan a faux hawk fan.

[Clutch]

I probably would have been too if I had grown up in New York and been exposed to the Knicks from an early age. Unfortunately, I didn't have such a luxury, but having a favorite player instead of a favorite team doesn't make me any less a fan of basketball.
So that's your excuse ? I live like 4000 miles away from New York but the Knicks are the only team I've ever root for. I get up at 1-2 am almost every night just to watch the Knicks play.
Yeah,I'm often frustrated by their play and sometimes just want to send everything to hell but I watch like 95% of their games or even more despite them playing in the middle of the night.

You're either a real fan or not. You're a player fan. If Melo leaves the Knicks you would leave with him.
Real fan watches the team no matter who's playing for them.

Knicks often make me mad or frustrated but at the end there's no better feeling than watching your team win. Your team that you root for since you started watching the game.

I'm still young (I was a baby in the 90's) so this is the best I've ever watched the Knicks play. It actually feels weird winning so many games. :lol

[airchibundo507]

But you are not a dedicated fan of the team. You didnt experience the travesties and failures. The empty promises. I wouldnt question your love of the game but I would question your loyalty to the team. You dont have the appropriate perspective to understand why all the apprehension and doubt. For this reason its already known you are not a Knicks fan but a PLAYER fan. Your opinion comes with a grain of salt in regards to the organization moves adjustments etc..... But as a basketball fan you may make valid points that can be respected.

Most of us Bleed for this you are a pseudo fan a faux hawk fan.

Melo is the face of this franchise and he will retire a Knick. I'll be here awhile, get used to me. As for organization moves, I probably know how to properly build around Melo better than anyone on this board.

[airchibundo507]

So that's your excuse ? I live like 4000 miles away from New York but the Knicks are the only team I've ever root for. I get up at 1-2 am almost every night just to watch the Knicks play.
Yeah,I'm often frustrated by their play and sometimes just want to send everything to hell but I watch like 95% of their games or even more despite them playing in the middle of the night.

You're either a real fan or not. You're a player fan. If Melo leaves the Knicks you would leave with him.
Real fan watches the team no matter who's playing for them.

Knicks often make me mad or frustrated but at the end there's no better feeling than watching your team win. Your team that you root for since you started watching the game.

I'm still young (I was a baby in the 90's) so this is the best I've ever watched the Knicks play. It actually feels weird winning so many games. :lol

why the knicks? what first sparked your interest?

[Rameek]

Melo is the face of this franchise and he will retire a Knick. I'll be here awhile, get used to me. As for organization moves, I probably know how to properly build around Melo better than anyone on this board.
Again you missed the point which further shows your not a fan. Your loyalty is to Melo not the past or future of the Knicks. Which makes most of your points no matter how insightful inconsequential. You do not have the best interest of the Knicks you have the best interest of Melo.

You may not have the capacity to understand the difference on any level by your responses.

No one can stop you really from posting here or anywhere without an egregious act. Just understand where the backlash comes from.

[Clutch]

why the knicks? what first sparked your interest?
I don't know. Probably MSG and the crowd. When I first started watching NBA I was only able to watch few games a month. Some Knicks games I watched were interesting so I decided to watch them more. As time was passing I watched them more and more and my heart slowly started to beat for the Knicks.

Just a few years ago when League Pass came out I was able to watch every Knicks game. Before that I watched them on national TV (only a few games a year) and looked up for highlights on the Internet.

Even now they show only like 2 games a week in Croatia (and you have to pay for that channel). Luckily I bought League Pass so I can watch every game I want. You lucky American bastards. Don't have to pay anything to watch the NBA. :oldlol:

[Rameek]

I don't know. Probably MSG and the crowd. When I first started watching NBA I was only able to watch few games a month. Some Knicks games I watched were interesting so I decided to watch them more. As time was passing I watched them more and more and my heart slowly started to beat for the Knicks.

Just a few years ago when League Pass came out I was able to watch every Knicks game. Before that I watched them on national TV (only a few games a year) and looked up for highlights on the Internet.

Even now they show only like 2 games a week in Croatia (and you have to pay for that channel). Luckily I bought League Pass so I can watch every game I want. You lucky American bastards. Don't have to pay anything to watch the NBA. :oldlol:
I streamed games while in Japan but I will try to find some more reliable way to watch the games. But sports schedules do not support 12-13 hour time differences.

[airchibundo507]

Again you missed the point which further shows your not a fan. Your loyalty is to Melo not the past or future of the Knicks. Which makes most of your points no matter how insightful inconsequential. You do not have the best interest of the Knicks you have the best interest of Melo.

You may not have the capacity to understand the difference on any level by your responses.

No one can stop you really from posting here or anywhere without an egregious act. Just understand where the backlash comes from.
The thing is, what's best for Melo is what's best for the Knicks---well except maybe if the Knicks were to move him for a better player, but right now there are maybe only 5-6 guys at most playing better than him and a trade for LBJ/KD/Paul/Howard isn't plausible. Melo is the franchise guy that the Knicks are counting on to lead them to a title, and the Knicks aren't winning a championship unless Melo plays to his full potential. Our goals mostly coincide, and you my friend are too shortsighted to see it.

[Rameek]

The thing is, what's best for Melo is what's best for the Knicks---well except maybe if the Knicks were to move him for a better player, but right now there are maybe only 5-6 guys at most playing better than him and a trade for LBJ/KD/Paul/Howard isn't plausible. Melo is the franchise guy that the Knicks are counting on to lead them to a title, and the Knicks aren't winning a championship unless Melo plays to his full potential. Our goals mostly coincide, and you my friend are too shortsighted to see it.
The indullable fact is your rationale is flawed and yes shortsighted because what's best for Melo isnt necessarily whats best for the Knicks as an organization. I knew you would come with that weak sauce rationale. There is nothing to gain from further discussions in this matter because no one wants you to be a Knicks fan (If I can take the liberty). No one is trying to convince you otherwise.

There is a mutual understanding that you like a player if traded/released/retire you can disappear. Therefore, no one cares about what you think or say for the most part in regards to the success or failings of this organization.

You take liberties with the "WE" stuff which doesnt exist because you are not a Knicks fan. You dont get coodles or props for your declarations in regards to the Knicks. Dont expect it, its undeserving and its not warranted.

In no way am I saying you shouldnt be allowed to share your opinion or it shouldnt be respected. Personally I read it but rarely respond to it because I see it as drivel. A necessary evil.

You dont represent the Knicks in any capacity.

I love the Knicks but I dont have a favorite Knick because its a team game. I dont even have favorite players from other teams. I am hardcore that way.

For example: You cant love Jordan and Love the Knicks because the goals are counterproductive!

These opinions shared here are not a representation of other Knick fans but Meeks alone.:lol :roll:

[el gringos]

The indullable fact is your rationale is flawed and yes shortsighted because what's best for Melo isnt necessarily whats best for the Knicks as an organization. I knew you would come with that weak sauce rationale. There is nothing to gain from further discussions in this matter because no one wants you to be a Knicks fan (If I can take the liberty). No one is trying to convince you otherwise.

There is a mutual understanding that you like a player if traded/released/retire you can disappear. Therefore, no one cares about what you think or say for the most part in regards to the success or failings of this organization.

You take liberties with the "WE" stuff which doesnt exist because you are not a Knicks fan. You dont get coodles or props for your declarations in regards to the Knicks. Dont expect it, its undeserving and its not warranted.

In no way am I saying you shouldnt be allowed to share your opinion or it shouldnt be respected. Personally I read it but rarely respond to it because I see it as drivel. A necessary evil.

You dont represent the Knicks in any capacity.

I love the Knicks but I dont have a favorite Knick because its a team game. I dont even have favorite players from other teams. I am hardcore that way.

For example: You cant love Jordan and Love the Knicks because the goals are counterproductive!

These opinions shared here are not a representation of other Knick fans but Meeks alone.:lol :roll:
Amare and Felton and Kurt Thomas
For
Bargnani, Calderon, and Amir Johnson


Because it would be best for Carmelo. And the team game of the Knicks would improve

[airchibundo507]

The indullable fact is your rationale is flawed and yes shortsighted because what's best for Melo isnt necessarily whats best for the Knicks as an organization. I knew you would come with that weak sauce rationale. There is nothing to gain from further discussions in this matter because no one wants you to be a Knicks fan (If I can take the liberty). No one is trying to convince you otherwise.

There is a mutual understanding that you like a player if traded/released/retire you can disappear. Therefore, no one cares about what you think or say for the most part in regards to the success or failings of this organization.

You take liberties with the "WE" stuff which doesnt exist because you are not a Knicks fan. You dont get coodles or props for your declarations in regards to the Knicks. Dont expect it, its undeserving and its not warranted.

In no way am I saying you shouldnt be allowed to share your opinion or it shouldnt be respected. Personally I read it but rarely respond to it because I see it as drivel. A necessary evil.

You dont represent the Knicks in any capacity.

I love the Knicks but I dont have a favorite Knick because its a team game. I dont even have favorite players from other teams. I am hardcore that way.

For example: You cant love Jordan and Love the Knicks because the goals are counterproductive!

These opinions shared here are not a representation of other Knick fans but Meeks alone.:lol :roll:

lol get off your high horse. yeah you have tenure as a knicks fan, doesn't make you any more knowledgeable as to what will improve the team right now and in the future. "no one wants you to be a knicks fan." who the hell are you? you think your color coded jargon is so much more insightful? get real.

[Rameek]

lol get off your high horse. yeah you have tenure as a knicks fan, doesn't make you any more knowledgeable as to what will improve the team right now and in the future. "no one wants you to be a knicks fan." who the hell are you? you think your color coded jargon is so much more insightful? get real.
Yes I am a Knicks fan you are a Melo fan. Its not about being more knowledgeable or even more insightful. Its about the love of the TEAM you dont!

[Sarcastic]

So here we are, with 10 games to go and the Knicks are 46-26. They'd have to go 9-1 in order to hit the 55-27 that I predicted :( , which probably won't happen.


If we get over 50 wins it'll still be a great season, considering all the injuries that we suffered.

[Clutch]

So here we are, with 10 games to go and the Knicks are 46-26. They'd have to go 9-1 in order to hit the 55-27 that I predicted :( , which probably won't happen.


If we get over 50 wins it'll still be a great season, considering all the injuries that we suffered.
It will be between me and you for the title of "best prediction"

I predicted 49,you predicted 55. It will be somewhere in between.

[niko]

The number of wins is irrelevent, if we get 2nd or 3rd seed then this was a good regular season. 2nd or 3rd is going to avoid Miami and Chicago's bracket.

[Sarcastic]

The number of wins is irrelevent, if we get 2nd or 3rd seed then this was a good regular season. 2nd or 3rd is going to avoid Miami and Chicago's bracket.


We might get Boston/Indiana which is no picnic either. Hopefully Boston continues to tank for the 8 seed, and we end up with Milwaukee.

[bluechox2]

i like our chances against boston, even with kg

we can own indiana if we try,which we havnt shown this year...but are capable

[niko]

We might get Boston/Indiana which is no picnic either. Hopefully Boston continues to tank for the 8 seed, and we end up with Milwaukee.
Milwaukee never wins.

[Jasi]

So here's the correct list (I post the average in case someone gave high-low scenarios), by number of wins:

airchibundo507: 55
Sarcastic: 55
Clutch: 49
knickscity: 48
Court Vision: 48
Jasi: 48
franchize: 45
bluechox: 45
Rameek: 43
Bano114: 42

We got 48 W already with 8 games left.

All this shows how pessimistic Knicks fans are!

[airchibundo507]

who wants to eat their crow first? it's comin hot and fresh out the oven :lol

[knickscity]

who wants to eat their crow first? it's comin hot and fresh out the oven :lol
Default Re: Predict our record


Max of 53, but as a betting man, i'll safely say 47, with a bottom out of 43 pending a ton of injuries.

They're right around that max.

[Clutch]

None of that matters if we get out in the first round again.

I can't wait for the playoffs but I must admit I'm a little bit nervous because we're facing the Celtics in the 1st round. If they take game 1 at MSG I will lose my mind. :lol

[knickscity]

Not concerned with the Celtics, they are awful.

They were the better team the last time we played them in the playoffs, this year no so much.

If you can't beat a Rondo-less Celtics team and blow HCA in the process, you dont deserve to wear a Knicks jersey.

This is the year to officially bury the celtics under the church.

[bluechox2]

we will win if we play the same way we have been playing this month

as a long time knick fan, i know that history shows us that we have a good chance to play like shit

just gotta hope thats all changed

[Draz]

I think we'll come off strong against the celtics. Their name rings a bell to us fans but seriously I think we're going to beat them. Also, rondo is going to be out? Wow, we can definitely advance guys.

[franchize]

I think we'll come off strong against the celtics. Their name rings a bell to us fans but seriously I think we're going to beat them. Also, rondo is going to be out? Wow, we can definitely advance guys.

:kobe: Man where you been? Rondo been out. Don't tell me you're just finding this out.