#61 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops

[Deuce Bigalow]

Reggie Miller was voted the #60 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops.

18.2 PPG | 3 RPG | 3 APG

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[SourPatchKids]

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Heh...


I guess I vote for Flareon

[coin24]

Pau

[RRR3]

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Heh...


I guess I vote for Flareon
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Clearly you meant T-Mac.




T-Mac:pimp:

[haji_d_robertas]

Tony Parker

[Deuce Bigalow]

Pau
Lucas, Maravich, Greer, and Johnston should get in before Pau imo.

[WockaVodka]

Pau Gasol

[BoutPractice]

Jerry Lucas.

[MiamiThrice]

Pau Gasol
http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.179239!/img/httpImage/image.jpg

-2x NBA Champion (2009, 2010)
-Led 2010 Lakers to the championship as the best player
-4 x NBA Allstar
-18.7 PPG, 9.2 RPG 3.2 APG career numbers
-3 All NBA teams
-Two silver medals as the best player
-One of the most skilled bigmen of all-time
-Made the cover of the NBA video game in Spain

[pauk]

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[chips93]

jezza lucas

[Sakkreth]

T-Mac

[JellyBean]

Jerry Lucas

[pauk]

I vote for:

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[nycelt84]

Jerry Lucas

[Kblaze8855]

Now that that laughable excuse for an all time great is out of the way...lets watch 36 straight better players get voted in.

If a couple third teams and 5 all star games for someone who never won anything is enough to get in....Hal greer with like 7 second teams and 10 all star games...and a title doing Kobe numbers....has to be getting votes.

And ive been doing some reading of articles from the time on Pistol Pete and Lou Hudson. Some of the things said about and by Pete almost seem like a joke.

Dude was literally playing flashy for flashys sake, admitted to taking 40 foot pullup jumpers because he felt he had the hot hand, and predicted there might never be another chest pass again by the late 70s. Compared his style over substance approach to people who thought the jumper would never replace the set shot.

Meanwhile his own fans boo him, his teammates want him gone, his coach said things like:

"He's got to discipline himself to the obligations of a guard," says Guerin (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/topic/article/Richie_Guerin/1900-01-01/2100-12-31/mdd/index.htm). "He's got a responsibility in that position to do things I want him to and not just dribble around. He's got to work plays."


And another coach later suspended him partly because he pissed off a teammate he elbowed in the nose during a scuffle over a call he didnt like.

He was pretty much Tmac only even less healthy, scoring less even though he took 28 shots a game one season, turning the ball over more than just about any guard ever, and winning less while pissing off teammates more.

But no doubt...he was a talent. Just not one id want on my team. Reggie Miller may be overrated but....id take him on my team.

[colts19]

Jerry Lucas

[pauk]

that laughable excuse for an all time great

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That "laughable excuse for an all-time great" would instead more often than not in the clutch & playoffs turn 99.99% of the players who you think were better than him to laughable excuses of all-time greats instead and turn YOU into a laughable excuse of a poster.... and then he would continue to do so the next 20 years while your supposed "better player" has retired and is now commentating that guys game...


If a couple third teams and 5 all star games for someone who never won anything is enough to get in....Hal greer with like 7 second teams and 10 all star games...and a title doing Kobe numbers....has to be getting votes.


You didnt say something like that when Durant got in? (who actually didnt have a better legacy than Reggie yet)

With any other player i can agree with you, but with Reggie? Absolutely not... His career was very aesthetical & essential... His longevity, specific intangibles, killer instinct, moments, clutch productions, shooting, consistency, performance in the playoffs and so on for 18 years and what he did with what he had to work with and what competition he had to face (or the fact that he didnt ring chase being loyal to a scrub team and scrub franchise his entire career) is not something an All-Star selection or All-nba team can measure.... A Legacy & a Hall of Fame career for that type of "Laughable excuse for an all-time great" is more than just all-star selections etc... This is why ranking somebody like Reggie is very hard when you havent witnessed him...

You can find maybe 100 players who got more impressive combined all-star / all-nba team selections than Reggie... what defined Reggies career is more signifacant than simply that...

Im fine with blowing him out of Top 50 all-time or even top 60 all-time.... but then calling him also "laughable excuse for an all-time great" once he finally gets IN there somewhere is taking it to far... and you know it Kblaze..

[G.O.A.T]

Now that that laughable excuse for an all time great is out of the way...lets watch 36 straight better players get voted in.

If a couple third teams and 5 all star games for someone who never won anything is enough to get in....Hal greer with like 7 second teams and 10 all star games...and a title doing Kobe numbers....has to be getting votes.

And ive been doing some reading of articles from the time on Pistol Pete and Lou Hudson. Some of the things said about and by Pete almost seem like a joke.

Dude was literally playing flashy for flashys sake, admitted to taking 40 foot pullup jumpers because he felt he had the hot hand, and predicted there might never be another chest pass again by the late 70s. Compared his style over substance approach to people who thought the jumper would never replace the set shot.

Meanwhile his own fans boo him, his teammates want him gone, his coach said things like:

"He's got to discipline himself to the obligations of a guard," says Guerin (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/topic/article/Richie_Guerin/1900-01-01/2100-12-31/mdd/index.htm). "He's got a responsibility in that position to do things I want him to and not just dribble around. He's got to work plays."


And another coach later suspended him partly because he pissed off a teammate he elbowed in the nose during a scuffle over a call he didnt like.

He was pretty much Tmac only even less healthy, scoring less even though he took 28 shots a game one season, turning the ball over more than just about any guard ever, and winning less while pissing off teammates more.

But no doubt...he was a talent. Just not one id want on my team. Reggie Miller may be overrated but....id take him on my team.

Didn't you're Mother ever tell teach you tat if you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all? It's like you're going all Moses on every Golden Calf the people have.

I have to agree with you on Maravich though, Guerin wasn't the only coach he had who was critical of Pete's style of play. That was pretty early in his career however and he did corral his own style as time went on. But usually that only lasted a little while and he reverted to old habits. Here's some link's I found a few years back.

The Pistol is Silent (http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=DrIiAAAAIBAJ&sjid=RbMFAAAAIBAJ&pg=5574,2023401&dq=pete+maravich+too+flashy&hl=en)

Cotton on Pistol (http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=7UcxAAAAIBAJ&sjid=DUQDAAAAIBAJ&pg=7036,2977208&dq=pete+maravich+too+flashy&hl=en)

Pete Fires Backs (http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=0J8oAAAAIBAJ&sjid=8ygEAAAAIBAJ&pg=7351,4678275&dq=pete+maravich+problem&hl=en)

Pete on Jazz GM Lewis Schaffel


Schaffel cons everybody, but people are starting to wake up. If they trade anyone it ought to be him. If he would take a long vacation to Iraq we might even be in the playoffs.

link (http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=UPhVAAAAIBAJ&sjid=6OEDAAAAIBAJ&pg=5469,5657009&dq=pete+maravich+problem&hl=en)


The guys who figure the odds in Vegas put it another way, in effect stating the bottom line on Pete Maravich: Never bet on the Jazz...but never bet against them.

This explains something else. In basketball, as in other sports, certain media favorites automatically become "the franchise." This usually is applied to a large, dominating center. This usage is incorrect. There is only one franchise unto himself in all of sport. He is Pete Maravich. There are 21 teams in the NBA and one Pete Maravich.

A league executive says, " Bill Walton used to think of himself as a Trail Blazer. Kareem thinks of himself as a Laker. Doctor J thinks of himself as a 76er. But Pete Maravich knows he's bigger than the Jazz. Pete thinks he's Smokey Robinson and the rest of the Jazz are the Miracles. The problem is that he's right."

Nobody ever questioned the obvious gifts of an Ernie Banks or an O. J. Simpson, despite the fact that their teams, like Maravich's, never won anything when they played for them. In his own sphere of basketball, Maravich's historical rivals at guard—West and Robertson—similarly were regarded as geniuses and held blameless even though they never played on a pro championship team until they joined forces with powerful centers late in their careers.

But Pistol Pete? In seven seasons in the NBA and most of an eighth, Maravich has, at one time or another, led the league in scoring, led all guards in rebounding and made the All-Star team four times. But he has played on only one team that won more games than it lost. And in Maravich's case—unlike West's or Robertson's—critics have in part blamed him. Much of the time, they say, he has disdained team play, avoided the defensive end and relentlessly pursued individual scoring statistics to the point where he now has figured out just how many cranks of his right arm he can get away with before it falls off.

Nevertheless, Maravich's native skills and marvelous creativity have made him a legend in the NBA. Marv Roberts, a veteran of the American Basketball Association, expressed this best at a game in Los Angeles two seasons ago, in the first year of the merger. At the time Maravich was scalding on all burners, throwing baskets in from everywhere as a wide-eyed Roberts sat on the Laker bench, witnessing for the first time this amazing player he had heard so much about but had never seen. Finally Roberts could contain himself no longer. As the Pistol concluded the quarter by razzling and dazzling and hurling in still another 25-footer, Roberts leaped from the bench, waved both arms at Maravich and shouted, "I sees ya, Pete! I sees ya!"

[Kblaze8855]

That "laughable excuse for an all-time great" would instead more often than not in the clutch & playoffs turn 99.99% of the players who you think were better than him to laughable excuses of all-time greats instead and turn YOU into a laughable excuse of a poster.... and then he would continue to do so the next 20 years while your supposed "better player" has retired and is now commentating that guys game...

Yes...he came through so often in the clutch and playoffs he lost 19 years in a row. He sure showed me whats what.

And its not me who gets banned now and then and has to create alternate names. There is a reason you would be one of the first people voted out of here and it isnt people hating Lebron.




You didnt say something like that when Durant got in? (who actually didnt have a better legacy than Reggie yet)

With any other player i can agree with you, but with Reggie? Absolutely not... His career was very aesthetical & essential... His longevity, specific intangibles, killer instinct, moments, clutch productions, shooting, consistency, performance in the playoffs and so on for 18 years and what he did with what he had to work with and what competition he had to face (or the fact that he didnt ring chase being loyal to a scrub team and scrub franchise his entire career) is not something an All-Star selection or All-nba team can measure.... A Legacy & a Hall of Fame career for that type of "Laughable excuse for an all-time great" is more than just all-star selections etc... This is why ranking somebody like Reggie is very hard when you havent witnessed him...

You can find maybe 100 players who got more impressive combined all-star / all-nba team selections than Reggie... what defined Reggies career is more signifacant than simply that...

Im fine with blowing him out of Top 50 all-time or even top 60 all-time.... but then calling him also "laughable excuse for an all-time great" once he finally gets IN there somewhere is taking it to far... and you know it Kblaze..





There is a very key difference between Durant and Reggie. And most of these guys and Reggie really.

And its a difference you and most people can see and make very obvious on places like this.

Wilt chamberlain...led two title teams and 6 teams to the finals. Widely(then and now) considered a loser and poor playoff performer.

Karl/Barkley/Ewing.....all led finals teams and multiple great teams who you had to take serious as a contender. All played the game on an elite level in their leagues. To a man...all considered losers and playoff choke artists to some degree. Reggie achieved nothing they did not.

Reggie...led some conference finals team and then made the finals and lost...played worse than Karl/Barkley/Ewing could get away with before pulling it together....lost all but 1 big series for 19 years.

Wilt is an elite player...so hes judged on a higher level...so his multiple rings and 6 finals lets people call him a loser fair or not.

Karl/Barkley/Ewing...all time greats...so them losing in the finals and bowing out before then 10-15 times...gives people reason to call them losers.

Reggie however....is not elite like wilt. Hes not all time great like Karl.

Reggie is...good. So...him doing similar to or less than them....doesnt matter. They are on the elite and great scale...doing what Reggie got done makes them losers.

Reggie is good...doing what others are called losers for...gets him called clutch and a playoff performer.

And there is exactly why Reggie isnt an all time great. All time greats who have Reggies career are laughed at. Karl Malone might be overrated....but hes great...so hes a joke for all time over winning more than Reggie did. Reggie is good...so hes a winner/clutch performer forever. For getting as far as Paul westphal.

Wilt has reggies career hes the biggest joke ever.

Karl has it he would be mocked more than he already is having had a better one than Reggie.

Reggie has it...its impressive...because he isnt that good. He never was one of the games best players. There might be 6 people in so far that can be said about....and they have 22 rings between them so they get the champion bump.

Reggie is on the list of non elites on this list....but he doesnt have what got them rest of them here.

But hes not on their scale.

Reggie is good...so his career makes him impressive and clutch.

Karl Malone is great...so his better career makes him the anti clutch to many.

Its the difference between Lebron James and Chauncey Billups.

One is expected to do more so the one who plays worse in the playoffs gets the "Mr.Big shot" label and the other is considered a loser for 8 years.

Worse players get praised for worse play. And reggie....gets the most praise of anyone to play as poorly as he did(relative to these others).

Shows where people really consider him.

Far as this:




Didn't you're Mother ever tell teach you tat if you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all? It's like you're going all Moses on every Golden Calf the people have.





The people for the most part believe in the opinion they are assigned. If nobody tells you the golden Calf has no power some people are dumb enough to go along with it.

I was always one to ask for more.

Dont tell me ____ is ____. Explain why. If you cant....stop saying it to me. Seems fair.

[Kblaze8855]

Couldnt tell you where all that bold came from.

[RRR3]

Kblaze laying the smackdown on ISH:bowdown:
Still all these Pau votes though:rant

[KG215]

Pau Gasol
http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.179239!/img/httpImage/image.jpg

-2x NBA Champion (2009, 2010)
-Led 2010 Lakers to the championship as the best player
-4 x NBA Allstar
-18.7 PPG, 9.2 RPG 3.2 APG career numbers
-3 All NBA teams
-Two silver medals as the best player
-One of the most skilled bigmen of all-time
-Made the cover of the NBA video game in Spain


That should heavily tip the scales in his favor. All of you who didn't vote for Gasol, go back and change your vote now. He made the cover of an NBA video game in Spain. It's time to recognize his greatness.

[Deuce Bigalow]

That should heavily tip the scales in his favor. All of you who didn't vote for Gasol, go back and change your vote now. He made the cover of an NBA video game in Spain. It's time to recognize his greatness.
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[Fudge]

Tracy McGrady

[WillC]

Pete Maravich

[HardwoodLegend]

Tracy "Top 250 Player of All-Time, Top 10 Natural Talent of All-Time, Legendary Badass SG Peak" McGrady

[G.O.A.T]

Couldnt tell you where all that bold came from.

you were so angry the site deemed it essential.

What did you think of those Pistol Pete links?

Which players would you compare him to personality wise today?

And finally, have you ever heard the story of Johnny Neumann?


That should heavily tip the scales in his favor. All of you who didn't vote for Gasol, go back and change your vote now. He made the cover of an NBA video game in Spain. It's time to recognize his greatness.

Exactly, how many video game covers in Spain did Dave Debusschere make during his career anyway?

[G.O.A.T]

The real greatness is how he led the Lakers to a title in 2010. How many players remaining have led their team to a title? Probably none.

Reminds me of when Ron Harper led the Bulls to that three-peat or the Heinsohn dynasty of the 1960's Celtics. Those and lots of other things that never happened. Pau Gasol, clearly a top 10 7-foot Spaniard of All-time.

[Jacks3]

T-Mac.

[Eric Cartman]

Jerry Lucas

[Kblaze8855]

What did you think of those Pistol Pete links?

Which players would you compare him to personality wise today?

And finally, have you ever heard the story of Johnny Neumann?



Im gonna go into that a bit later when I have more time...mostly because id like to explain that unlike others people assume I hate(Karl..Reggie) I dont even mildly dislike Pete. I just havea problem with what he represents.

At the moment id like to mention someone im sure wont get in for a while...


Dave Bing. I claim no great knowledge of his career but I have seen a little of him play(though I was mostly watching for Bob Lanier). Hes one of those guys who just doesnt have that hook to make people care.

He came into the league in the mid 60s and was still having 20 point games vs guys who played in the 90s. He was an all star more than Pistol Pete in the same era. He led the league in scoring as well. he was top 5 in MVP voting a few times. I believe he made the playoffs more often(Pete probably went....3 times on the Hawks?). He was all NBA first team two or three times back when the players voted for it. He even got more assists than Pistol. And neither of them won anything so its not like Pete had that.

He just didnt throw the ball into the stands or try to shoot 35 footers on the break enough to be famous. I feel for guys like him. Work hard for greatness and....nobody gives a shit because someone people thought was worse than you was more flashy.

Thats sports though. Lot of points better than Jason williams will never get a youtube video with millions of views to make them famous forever.

[GP_20]

Reggie Miller over Kevin Johnson?
:roll:


Kevin Johnson is better at every aspect of the game other than shooting, and has had bigger playoff performances than Reggie Miller ever has.


This list is just a joke. Was and is continuing to be. Kevin Johnson should've been Top 40.

[WillC]

Kevin Johnson should've been Top 40.

:facepalm

[Kblaze8855]

Two people on earth rank KJ top 40 and neither of them are even in his family. Being better than Reggie Miller isnt some bigtime accomplishment. At a glance at least 10 people after #80 last time were better than Reggie:

80. Dikembe Mutombo
81. Connie Hawkins
82. Chris Webber
83. Chris Mullin
84. Grant Hill
85. Mitch Richmond
86. Dan Issel
87. 'Jumpin' Joe Fulks
88. Alonzo Mourning
89. Shawn Kemp
90. Mark Price
91. Anfernee 'Penny' Hardaway
92. Tommy Heinsohn
93. George McGinnis
94. Tim Hardaway
95. Mel Daniels
96. Bob Davies
97. Tom Chambers
98. Maurice Cheeks
99. Ben Wallace
100. Mark Aguirre

[Heavincent]

The real greatness is how he led the Lakers to a title in 2010. How many players remaining have led their team to a title? Probably none.


Pau Gasol
http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.179239!/img/httpImage/image.jpg

-2x NBA Champion (2009, 2010)
-Led 2010 Lakers to the championship as the best player
-4 x NBA Allstar
-18.7 PPG, 9.2 RPG 3.2 APG career numbers
-3 All NBA teams
-Two silver medals as the best player
-One of the most skilled bigmen of all-time
-Made the cover of the NBA video game in Spain

Seriously RG? Do you really think we don't know it's you? :oldlol:

Only count one of these votes OP, since it's obviously the same person.

[crisoner]

I got Pau Gasol here.
Another great Euro player with two titles and a GREAT post game.

[DatAsh]

What's the argument for Reggie Miller over Hal Greer? What makes Sam Jones five spots better than Reggie that doesn't also apply to Hal Greer?

[Kblaze8855]

There have been few arguments for Reggie over anyone. Its not a piece by piece argument made. Its "Reggie was ____" and the other people arent even mentioned because you cant mention what they did and what Reggie did and justify the pick in most cases. The case for Reggie is about him. Its not about what he did being superior to the others.

Which is why Dennis Johnson can have 3 rings, a finals MVP, be all nba first team, and 9 all d teams and nobody ranks him over Reggie or even Pistol Pete who didnt do shit in college or the NBA even when he had all NBA first team teammates or teams with 3 all stars.

Its about the guy you want...now how he actually compares.

[Tinseltime17]

I got Pau Gasol here.
Another great Euro player with two titles and a GREAT post game.
This....Gasol.

[Legends66NBA7]

What's the argument for Reggie Miller over Hal Greer? What makes Sam Jones five spots better than Reggie that doesn't also apply to Hal Greer?

Greer was also on those 2nd teams 7 times in a row, because Oscar Robertson got in 7 times, Jerry West 5 times, Dave Bing and Earl Monroe got in over Greer. So for 5 years in a row, he lost out 2 legendary guards/players and the last 2 had better peak years that year.

Greer is underrated as hell. (not a vote)

[KG215]

Can I get like a 6 month notice next time we're gonna do this? I want to create 10 different accounts to hopefully balance out some of the "shepherded" votes where people see someone else vote for a recognizable of the only era they're familiar with, and think that has to be the best and most logical vote at that spot.

[G.O.A.T]

What's the argument for Reggie Miller over Hal Greer? What makes Sam Jones five spots better than Reggie that doesn't also apply to Hal Greer?

Though I literally have Miller one spot ahead of Greer and Jones right behind them both the strength of Miller's case for me is how much his team won in the playoffs. Looking at Miller's best seasons from 1991-2001 the Pacers won 11 playoff series and lost 11. Compare that with the other franchise faces during their prime seasons as a franchise player:

Jordan: 30-7, eight conference finals, six NBA finals
Hakeem: 16-10, four conference finals, three NBA finals
Malone: 16-17, five conference finals, two NBA finals
Ewing: 11-10, two conference finals, one NBA finals
Miller: 11-11, five conference finals, one NBA finals
Barkley: 9-9, two conference finals, one NBA finals
Drexler: 8-8, three conference finals, two NBA finals
Robinson: 6-7, one conference finals
Payton: 5-7, one conference finals, one NBA finals
Mourning: 4-7, one conference finals

Miller stacks up remarkably well considering he is clearly a level below those guys in terms of visible and measurable impact. And it's not as if his teams were loaded, every player on that list had at least twice as many all-star seasons from teammates.

Coupled with the aforementioned propensity to elevate his play (raised his scoring average in all but one postseason) in the postseason and his remarkable longevity and you're looking at a guy that can help any team contend for over a decade and who knows what would have happened had he been cast in a sidekick role as oppose to being the face of the franchise.

[Deuce Bigalow]

The real greatness is how he led the Lakers to a title in 2010. How many players remaining have led their team to a title? Probably none.
This just can't be. He can't be all these accounts :oldlol:

[Deuce Bigalow]

Why would people accuse me and MiamiThrice being the same person? There haeve been plenty of threads where he voted Gasol or Howard and I voted for someone else.

If we were the same person, why would I cancel out my own vote? :oldlol:
You and MiamiThrice have said that "Gasol LED the Lakers to a title in 2010"

You, MiamiThrice, and 32Dayz are the only poster(s) I can remember saying such a thing. And you are not canceling out your own vote, You just voted for Pau.

[RRR3]

This....Gasol.
OP willing to bet this is RG as well

[Deuce Bigalow]

Yea? And what's the problem? Gasol did lead the Lakers to the title in 2010. All the stats back it up that Gasol was the best player on that Lakers team in the post-season.

I was referring to previous threads/votes where me and MiamiThrice differed, why would I cancel out my own vote if we were the same person? :oldlol:
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[RRR3]

You can't "lead" a team to a title when you're the second option. Kobe Bryant averaged 29/6/6/1/1 on 46/37/84 in the 2010 playoffs, he was the first option and best player.

[WockaVodka]

1st Round VS OKC.

G1.
Gasol : 19 / 13 / 3 / 3BPG | 50% shooting
Kobe : 21 / 2 / 3 | 31% shooting
G1 = Gasol > Kobe

G2.
Gasol : 25 / 12 (5 0ffensive) / 2 | 57% shooting
Kobe : 39 / 5 / 1 | 42% shooting
G2 = Gasol > Kobe

G3.
Gasol : 17 / 15 / 6 / 2BPG | 58% shooting
Kobe : 24 / 4 / 8 | 34% shooting
G3 = Gasol > Kobe

G4.
Gasol : 13 / 4 / 3 | 50% shooting
Kobe : 12 / 3 / 4 | 50% shooting
G4 = Wash / Equal / Draw

G5.
Gasol : 25 / 11 / 5 | 63% shooting
Kobe : 13 / 3 / 7 | 44% shooting
G5 = Gasol > Kobe

G6.
Gasol : 9 / 18 / 3 / 2BPG | 36% shooting
Kobe : 32 / 7 / 3 | 48% shooting
G6 = Kobe > Gasol

1st Round Summary.
6 Games.
Gasol better in 4/6 Games
Kobe better in 1/6 Games
Gasol > Kobe in 1st Round.

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2nd Round VS Utah.

G1.
Gasol : 25 / 12 / 4 / 5BPG | 60% shooting
Kobe : 31 / 3 / 4 | 63% shooting
G1 = Gasol > Kobe

G2.
Gasol : 22 / 15 (5 0ffensive) / 2 / 2BPG | 64% shooting
Kobe : 30 / 5 / 8 | 45% shooting
G2 = Gasol > Kobe

G3.
Gasol : 14 / 17 (7 0ffensive) / 3 / 2BPG | 50% shooting
Kobe : 35 / 4 / 7 | 54% shooting
G3 = Kobe > Gasol

G4.
Gasol : 33 / 14 (7 0ffensive) / 2 / 2BPG | 67% shooting
Kobe : 32 / 3 / 4 | 47% shooting
G4 = Gasol > Kobe

2nd Round Summary.
4 Games.
Gasol better in 3/4 Games
Kobe better in 1/4 Games
Gasol > Kobe in 2nd Round.

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Conference Finals VS Phoenix.

G1.
Gasol : 25 / 4 / 5 / 2BPG | 77% shooting
Kobe : 40 / 5 / 5 | 55% shooting
G1 = Kobe > Gasol

G2.
Gasol : 29 / 9 / 5 / 2BPG | 58% shooting
Kobe : 21 / 5 / 13 | 42% shooting
G2 = Gasol > Kobe

G3.
Gasol : 23 / 9 / 2 | 79% shooting
Kobe : 36 / 9 / 11 | 54% shooting
G3 = Kobe > Gasol

G4.
Gasol : 15 / 5 / 3 / 4BPG | 43% shooting
Kobe : 38 / 7 / 10 | 68% shooting
G4 = Kobe > Gasol

G5.
Gasol : 21 / 9 / 5 | 50% shooting
Kobe : 30 / 11 / 9 | 44% shooting
G5 = Kobe > Gasol

G6.
Gasol : 9 / 7 / 2 | 22% shooting
Kobe : 37 / 6 / 2 | 48% shooting
G6 = Kobe > Gasol

CNFinalz Round Summary.
6 Games.
Gasol better in 1/6 Games
Kobe better in 5/6 Games
Kobe > Gasol in CFinalz.
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Finalz VS Boston.

Turnovers.
Kobe : 28
Gasol : 13

G1.
Gasol : 23 / 14 (8 0ffensive) / 3 / 3BPG | 57% shooting
Kobe : 30 / 7 / 6 | 45% shooting
G1 = Gasol > Kobe

G2.
Gasol : 25 / 8 / 3 / 6BPG | 70% shooting
Kobe : 21 / 5 / 6 | 40% shooting
G2 = Gasol > Kobe

G3.
Gasol : 13 / 10 / 4 / 2BPG | 46% shooting
Kobe : 29 / 7 / 4 | 34% shooting
G3 = Kobe > Gasol

G4.
Gasol : 21 / 6 / 3 / 2BPG | 46% shooting
Kobe : 33 / 6 / 2 | 45% shooting
G4 = Kobe > Gasol

G5.
Gasol : 12 / 12 (7 0ffensive) | 42% shooting
Kobe : 38 / 5 / 4 | 48% shooting
G5 = Kobe > Gasol

G6.
Gasol : 17 / 13 (5 0ffensive) / 9 / 3BPG | 44% shooting
Kobe : 26 / 11 / 3 | 47% shooting
G6 = Gasol > Kobe

G7.
Gasol : 19 / 18 (9 offensive) / 4 / 2BPG | 38% shooting
Kobe : 23 / 15 / 2 | 25% shooting
G7 = Gasol > Kobe

Finalz Summary.
7 Games.
Gasol better in 4/7 Games
Kobe better in 3/7 Games
Gasol > Kobe in Finalz.

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2010 Playoff Summary.

Gasol better in 3/4 Series.
Kobe better in 1/4 Series.

Gasol better in 12/23 Games.
Kobe better in 10/23 Games.

Gasol > Kobe in 2010 Playoffs.

[G-train]

If Rodman and Dwight are 50/51, then Mourning should be 49.

So I vote Zo for 61.

:D

[Deuce Bigalow]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=239681

Welcome back :oldlol:

[RRR3]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=239681

Welcome back :oldlol:
It's not 32Dayz, it's RG. He's doing the "FinalZ" thing to try and fool us into thinking he's 32dayz.

[G-train]

Gasol couldn't clean Zo's dialysis solution.

[G-train]

Gasol was the best player and that's all it takes to lead.

Like anyone cares what you think, aren't you that pimple face jew kid that got owned in his own thread? Yeah, I'm pretty sure nobody takes you seriously anymore after everyone saw your pic. :oldlol:

Are you 12 years old?

[RRR3]

Are you 12 years old?
It's RG bro. He's scared to post his own pic too:oldlol:

[MiamiThrice]

You and MiamiThrice have said that "Gasol LED the Lakers to a title in 2010"

You, MiamiThrice, and 32Dayz are the only poster(s) I can remember saying such a thing. And you are not canceling out your own vote, You just voted for Pau.

This is my only account on this website, you can PM an admin and ask him to check the IP Addresses if you want. Feel free to post the results in this thread.

But we all know you won't do it so please continue accusing people of multiple accounts so your limited basketball knowledge doesn't get exposed. Whoops.......



1st Round VS OKC.

G1.
Gasol : 19 / 13 / 3 / 3BPG | 50% shooting
Kobe : 21 / 2 / 3 | 31% shooting
G1 = Gasol > Kobe

G2.
Gasol : 25 / 12 (5 0ffensive) / 2 | 57% shooting
Kobe : 39 / 5 / 1 | 42% shooting
G2 = Gasol > Kobe

G3.
Gasol : 17 / 15 / 6 / 2BPG | 58% shooting
Kobe : 24 / 4 / 8 | 34% shooting
G3 = Gasol > Kobe

G4.
Gasol : 13 / 4 / 3 | 50% shooting
Kobe : 12 / 3 / 4 | 50% shooting
G4 = Wash / Equal / Draw

G5.
Gasol : 25 / 11 / 5 | 63% shooting
Kobe : 13 / 3 / 7 | 44% shooting
G5 = Gasol > Kobe

G6.
Gasol : 9 / 18 / 3 / 2BPG | 36% shooting
Kobe : 32 / 7 / 3 | 48% shooting
G6 = Kobe > Gasol

1st Round Summary.
6 Games.
Gasol better in 4/6 Games
Kobe better in 1/6 Games
Gasol > Kobe in 1st Round.

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2nd Round VS Utah.

G1.
Gasol : 25 / 12 / 4 / 5BPG | 60% shooting
Kobe : 31 / 3 / 4 | 63% shooting
G1 = Gasol > Kobe

G2.
Gasol : 22 / 15 (5 0ffensive) / 2 / 2BPG | 64% shooting
Kobe : 30 / 5 / 8 | 45% shooting
G2 = Gasol > Kobe

G3.
Gasol : 14 / 17 (7 0ffensive) / 3 / 2BPG | 50% shooting
Kobe : 35 / 4 / 7 | 54% shooting
G3 = Kobe > Gasol

G4.
Gasol : 33 / 14 (7 0ffensive) / 2 / 2BPG | 67% shooting
Kobe : 32 / 3 / 4 | 47% shooting
G4 = Gasol > Kobe

2nd Round Summary.
4 Games.
Gasol better in 3/4 Games
Kobe better in 1/4 Games
Gasol > Kobe in 2nd Round.

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Conference Finals VS Phoenix.

G1.
Gasol : 25 / 4 / 5 / 2BPG | 77% shooting
Kobe : 40 / 5 / 5 | 55% shooting
G1 = Kobe > Gasol

G2.
Gasol : 29 / 9 / 5 / 2BPG | 58% shooting
Kobe : 21 / 5 / 13 | 42% shooting
G2 = Gasol > Kobe

G3.
Gasol : 23 / 9 / 2 | 79% shooting
Kobe : 36 / 9 / 11 | 54% shooting
G3 = Kobe > Gasol

G4.
Gasol : 15 / 5 / 3 / 4BPG | 43% shooting
Kobe : 38 / 7 / 10 | 68% shooting
G4 = Kobe > Gasol

G5.
Gasol : 21 / 9 / 5 | 50% shooting
Kobe : 30 / 11 / 9 | 44% shooting
G5 = Kobe > Gasol

G6.
Gasol : 9 / 7 / 2 | 22% shooting
Kobe : 37 / 6 / 2 | 48% shooting
G6 = Kobe > Gasol

CNFinalz Round Summary.
6 Games.
Gasol better in 1/6 Games
Kobe better in 5/6 Games
Kobe > Gasol in CFinalz.
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Finalz VS Boston.

Turnovers.
Kobe : 28
Gasol : 13

G1.
Gasol : 23 / 14 (8 0ffensive) / 3 / 3BPG | 57% shooting
Kobe : 30 / 7 / 6 | 45% shooting
G1 = Gasol > Kobe

G2.
Gasol : 25 / 8 / 3 / 6BPG | 70% shooting
Kobe : 21 / 5 / 6 | 40% shooting
G2 = Gasol > Kobe

G3.
Gasol : 13 / 10 / 4 / 2BPG | 46% shooting
Kobe : 29 / 7 / 4 | 34% shooting
G3 = Kobe > Gasol

G4.
Gasol : 21 / 6 / 3 / 2BPG | 46% shooting
Kobe : 33 / 6 / 2 | 45% shooting
G4 = Kobe > Gasol

G5.
Gasol : 12 / 12 (7 0ffensive) | 42% shooting
Kobe : 38 / 5 / 4 | 48% shooting
G5 = Kobe > Gasol

G6.
Gasol : 17 / 13 (5 0ffensive) / 9 / 3BPG | 44% shooting
Kobe : 26 / 11 / 3 | 47% shooting
G6 = Gasol > Kobe

G7.
Gasol : 19 / 18 (9 offensive) / 4 / 2BPG | 38% shooting
Kobe : 23 / 15 / 2 | 25% shooting
G7 = Gasol > Kobe

Finalz Summary.
7 Games.
Gasol better in 4/7 Games
Kobe better in 3/7 Games
Gasol > Kobe in Finalz.

------------------------------------------------------------

2010 Playoff Summary.

Gasol better in 3/4 Series.
Kobe better in 1/4 Series.

Gasol better in 12/23 Games.
Kobe better in 10/23 Games.

Gasol > Kobe in 2010 Playoffs.

Great stats bro, will use in future threads. it'll be tough to get through to these guys though since they have Kobes **** down their throats.

LA won the title because of inside domination which starts and ends with Gasol, not because of Kobe shooting 40% for the series and 6/24 shooting in the pivotal Game 7. These are facts. Kobe won the Finals MVP on name alone.

[G-train]

Reggie Miller over Kevin Johnson?
:roll:


Kevin Johnson is better at every aspect of the game other than shooting, and has had bigger playoff performances than Reggie Miller ever has.


This list is just a joke. Was and is continuing to be. Kevin Johnson should've been Top 40.

Hello Glove.

[MiamiThrice]

No, I'm just saying why would I take that kid seriously? Have you seen his pic?

http://oi47.tinypic.com/20zr18y.jpg

This kid doesn't even look like he plays any sport. He looks like some kid who just comes home from school and jerks off to brazzers all day. :oldlol:

Would you take someone like that seriously when it comes to sports? I would just laugh my ass off and walk away. :oldlol:

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[G-train]

No, I'm just saying why would I take that kid seriously? Have you seen his pic?



This kid doesn't even look like he plays any sport. He looks like some kid who just comes home from school and jerks off to brazzers all day. :oldlol:

Would you take someone like that seriously when it comes to sports? I would just laugh my ass off and walk away. :oldlol:

What do these guys look like?

http://multimedia.heraldinteractive.com/images/20101104/4869c7_thibs_11052010.jpg

http://media.philly.com/images/300*454/20120522_inq_nba22-a.JPG

[Deuce Bigalow]

This is my only account on this website, you can PM an admin and ask him to check the IP Addresses if you want. Feel free to post the results in this thread.

But we all know you won't do it so please continue accusing people of multiple accounts so your limited basketball knowledge doesn't get exposed. Whoops.......




Great stats bro, will use in future threads. it'll be tough to get through to these guys though since they have Kobes **** down their throats.

LA won the title because of inside domination which starts and ends with Gasol, not because of Kobe shooting 40% for the series and 6/24 shooting in the pivotal Game 7. These are facts. Kobe won the Finals MVP on name alone.
The fact is that Kobe led the entire NBA Playoffs in points. Led the Lakers in points and assists for the entire playoffs, and led in both those categories in every single series. Kobe was 3rd in MVP voting for that season, while Pau never received a single MVP vote in his career, and Kobe won Finals MVP, while Pau did not.
Those are the facts.

[RRR3]

The fact is that Kobe led the entire NBA Playoffs in points. Led the Lakers in points and assists for the entire playoffs, and led in both those categories in every single series. Kobe was 3rd in MVP voting for that season, while Pau never received a single MVP vote in his career, and Kobe won Finals MVP, while Pau did not.
Those are the facts.
Don't argue with him bro, he listed Pau being on the cover of a video game in spain as a reason for him being ranked high on the GOAT list:roll:

[MiamiThrice]

The fact is that Kobe led the entire NBA Playoffs in points. Led the Lakers in points and assists for the entire playoffs, and led in both those categories in every single series. Kobe was 3rd in MVP voting for that season, while Pau never received a single MVP vote in his career, and Kobe won Finals MVP, while Pau did not.
Those are the facts.

So points are the only thing that matters? Why isn't George Gervin in the top ten all-time?

Gasol performed better than Kobe in more playoff games and more playoff rounds. Check WockaVodkas game logs for further proof.

Pau Gasol destroyed top 20 player KG in the playoffs and was by far the best rebounder in a series that was won with rebounding. Each game was won by the team that won the rebounding battle. Gasols length and tenacity inside was too much for Boston and the primary reason LA won. You think Kobes 40% shooting on awful shot selection was the primary reason? Get a grip. That was a gritty series won in the trenches.

[MiamiThrice]

Don't argue with him bro, he listed Pau being on the cover of a video game in spain as a reason for him being ranked high on the GOAT list:roll:

http://oi47.tinypic.com/20zr18y.jpg

:roll:

Don't even need to say anything.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Don't argue with him bro, he listed Pau being on the cover of a video game in spain as a reason for him being ranked high on the GOAT list:roll:
Kobe is the 2nd greatest of all-time guys, Video game covers :lol

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/001/433/999/Untitled_display_image.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8c/NBA_07_v2_the_life_cover_Kobe_Bryant.jpg
http://www.unigamesity.com/wp-content/uploads//2009/01/nba07.jpg
http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/gamecube-games/174-1.jpg
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/bigboxshots/0/197750_14048_front.jpg
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/bigboxshots/8/198058_50372_front.jpg

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

:wtf:

What is RG's obsession w/ RRR3? Spamming his pics in every thread that he posts in is....creepy.

[RRR3]

Kobe is the 2nd greatest of all-time guys, Video game covers :lol

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/001/433/999/Untitled_display_image.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8c/NBA_07_v2_the_life_cover_Kobe_Bryant.jpg
http://www.unigamesity.com/wp-content/uploads//2009/01/nba07.jpg
http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/gamecube-games/174-1.jpg
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/bigboxshots/0/197750_14048_front.jpg
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/bigboxshots/8/198058_50372_front.jpg
VideogameBe

[MiamiThrice]

Yeah no surprise. Deuce Bigalow has never played actual basketball so he can't combat my basketball facts thus he is reduced to posting pictures instead of his argument. :oldlol:

Keep getting your opinions from sportscenter kid.

[Deuce Bigalow]

:wtf:

What is RG's obsession w/ RRR3? Spamming his pics in every thread that he posts in is....creepy.
Maybe MiamiThrice/WockaVodka is 32Dayz, and he's letting out his anger because of his pic that was spammed?

[HardwoodLegend]

Why are people acting like RRR's looks preclude him from talking about basketball?

He could pass for an NBA coach.

Does John Clayton look the ideal football guru?

http://sports-kings.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/clayton.jpg

[RRR3]

RocketGreatness
TmacsRockets
ILoveNBA
ClutchCity95
Dominantelement
RaceBannana
ClutchCover
NoLayUpsRule2
Endurance7
OptimusPrime
AmazingManning
WeaponX2024
iTruWarrior
DreamShake24
RedZiggyZag
DreamYaoTmac5
ArizaAttack24
DominantElement
BrianDawkins20
FinalCountdown
TimeConfidence
RealKnowledge
KingofDream34
SmoothJ2
v3DreJ80
Lowryblaze7
ViNsAnItY1990
MakeHistory78
VeeCee15
Just2Clutch
MiltownMadness
HisAirness3
TDPrime2030
BDiesel324
HisAirness3
ClearYourMind
PurpGold34
LakerDefense8
ThaSwagg3r
Idefend5
Da Heroic One
DaPerceive
True Aristotle
StateofMind12
MiamiThrice
WockaVodka
Inception28
TheAdmiral3
Tinseltime17



What do they all have in common? :oldlol: Probably missing a bunch, sadly.

[MiamiThrice]

Why are people acting like RRR's looks preclude him from talking about basketball?

He could pass for an NBA coach.

Does John Clayton look the ideal football guru?

http://sports-kings.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/clayton.jpg

When has RRR3 actually gave an argument longer than one line that was actually well thought out and valid? The dude lives on one line opinions any generic sports fan can say, offers no real analysis whatsoever.

[Deuce Bigalow]

So points are the only thing that matters? Why isn't George Gervin in the top ten all-time?

Gasol performed better than Kobe in more playoff games and more playoff rounds. Check WockaVodkas game logs for further proof.

Pau Gasol destroyed top 20 player KG in the playoffs and was by far the best rebounder in a series that was won with rebounding. Each game was won by the team that won the rebounding battle. Gasols length and tenacity inside was too much for Boston and the primary reason LA won. You think Kobes 40% shooting on awful shot selection was the primary reason? Get a grip. That was a gritty series won in the trenches.
Get a grip on reality. Pau was never on Kobe's level.
Pippen was never on MJ's level
Drexler was never on Hakeem's level
Parker was never on Duncan's level
On and on...

[RRR3]

Why are people acting like RRR's looks preclude him from talking about basketball?

He could pass for an NBA coach.

Does John Clayton look the ideal football guru?

http://sports-kings.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/clayton.jpg
Eh. I don't pretend to be one of the very knowledgable posters on here, but I think I understand enough to talk on here :D. That's a pretty bad picture of me from 2 years ago but whatever :confusedshrug: At least I post my pics on here and don't hide behind my screen name and talk shit

[RRR3]

Maybe MiamiThrice/WockaVodka is 32Dayz, and he's letting out his anger because of his pic that was spammed?
It's RG it's not 32dayz. 32dayz didn't have a problem with me since I'm not a Kobe/Lakers fan (only people he seemed to have fight with).

[MiamiThrice]

Get a grip on reality. Pau was never on Kobe's level.
Pippen was never on MJ's level
Drexler was never on Hakeem's level
Parker was never on Duncan's level
On and on...

Yeah your right.

Pau was never on Kobes level in the 2010 Finals. He was above it. Good point bro :applause:

I'll give you one last chance to prove why Kobe was more instrumental to winning in the 2010 Finals, but I personally don't believe you have the ability to do anything beyond reading box scores. Offer me some analysis on those games that proved Kobe was more vital than Gasol.

In b4 "blah blah points blah blah assists" :oldlol: You can always tell the kids that were never around the game.

[Round Mound]

Chris Webber Should be In the Top 50.

There are Too Many 1 or 2 Dimensional Players Over Chris Webber: Who Could Do Everything at a Good and Decent Level.

[HardwoodLegend]

lol at this. RRR3 is some 17 year old kid and he is fat, ugly, bad acne, and is some jew.

All the people people have listed to defend rrr3 are like 30-40, they were in shape at one point in their life probably.

Plus, Clayton isn't an analyst, he is a reporter.

Looks are still irrelevant. His age and lack of knowledge are one thing.

Even when Jeff Van Gundy was "in shape" and playing basketball, he looked like a dweeb that didn't belong anywhere near a basketball court.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Yeah your right.

Pau was never on Kobes level in the 2010 Finals. He was above it. Good point bro :applause:

I'll give you one last chance to prove why Kobe was more instrumental to winning in the 2010 Finals, but I personally don't believe you have the ability to do anything beyond reading box scores. Offer me some analysis on those games that proved Kobe was more vital than Gasol.

In b4 "blah blah points blah blah assists" :oldlol: You can always tell the kids that were never around the game.
What player were the Celtics defense focused on trying to stop? Using double and triple teams on? I know who it was, do you? What does that say about one guy where defenses focus on and throw bodies at if he gets anywhere close to the paint, and the other gets single coverage?

[BIZARRO]

Chris Webber Should be In the Top 50.

There are Too Many 1 or 2 Dimensional Players Over Chris Webber: who Could Do Everything at a Good and Decent Level.


Furthermore, there is no way Reggie Miller was the player Chris Webber was. Not very close actually.

And Ray Allen wasn't either.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Yeah your right.

Pau was never on Kobes level in the 2010 Finals. He was above it. Good point bro :applause:
.
Yeah, that's why he won Finals MVP.... lol

[MiamiThrice]

What player were the Celtics defense focused on trying to stop? Using double and triple teams on? I know who it was, do you? What does that say about one guy where defenses focus on and throw bodies at if he gets anywhere close to the paint, and the other gets single coverage?

The player that can easily be taken out of the series thats who. Kobe is one of the easiest superstars ever to shut down with a great defense. Just like in 2004 when Shaq who was the clear best player on LA recieved single coverage and Kobe got the harder looks. Detroit realized Shaq was going to get his no matter what and they wanted to focus on the lesser teammates they could shut down.

Gasol is a great passer, sending double and triple teams at him out of the post would be a death sentence. Smart gameplanning making Kobe struggle when its obvious he cares about scoring above all else even with the double/triple teams.

And guess what? Despite being a perimeter player and having the ball 10x more than Gasol and apparantly seeing all of these "double and triple teams" Kobe only averaged 3.9 APG to Gasols 3.7 APG. :oldlol:

This is too easy.

[RRR3]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3092557&postcount=8


RG :roll: Being a psychotic **** since 2009 :bowdown:

[Deuce Bigalow]

The player that can easily be taken out of the series thats who. Kobe is one of the easiest superstars ever to shut down with a great defense. Just like in 2004 when Shaq who was the clear best player on LA recieved single coverage and Kobe got the harder looks. Detroit realized Shaq was going to get his no matter what and they wanted to focus on the lesser teammates they could shut down.

Gasol is a great passer, sending double and triple teams at him out of the post would be a death sentence. Smart gameplanning making Kobe struggle when its obvious he cares about scoring above all else even with the double/triple teams.

And guess what? Despite being a perimeter player and having the ball 10x more than Gasol and apparantly seeing all of these "double and triple teams" Kobe only averaged 3.9 APG to Gasols 3.7 APG. :oldlol:

This is too easy.
So you admit that Kobe received the defensive attention, and Pau didn't.

That was easy

[HardwoodLegend]

JVG never looked like some fat crater faced jew who never plays any type of sport and jerks off to brazzers all day after coming back home from school so your post is irrelevant.

He may not have been fat and crater faced, but he definitely can pass for being a Jew who came home from school to whack it to some hooters and honkers in an old pinup magazine.

My post remains relevant.

[MiamiThrice]

So you admit that Kobe received the defensive attention, and Pau didn't.

That was easy

Kobe recieved the attention because it's easy to make him struggle when you have a great defense in the Finals.

LA won the games because of inside domination. Kobe had virtually nothing to do with that when compared to Gasol.

Have you ever played basketball in your life?

[Deuce Bigalow]

JVG never looked like some fat crater faced jew who never plays any type of sport and jerks off to brazzers all day after coming back home from school so your post is irrelevant.
Doesn't Brazzers cost money?

[RRR3]

Deuce, sorry RG is too immature not to ruin your thread.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Kobe recieved the attention because it's easy to make him struggle when you have a great defense in the Finals.

LA won the games because of inside domination. Kobe had virtually nothing to do with that when compared to Gasol.

Have you ever played basketball in your life?Kobe averaged 8.0 rpg, Gasol 11.6
In the WCF, they both averaged 7.2 rpg

3.6 rebounds does not makes up for the 10 points in difference
and lol at Kobe averaging the same amount of rebounds as "dominant inside" Gasol in the WCF

[Heavincent]

RG is a complete lunatic.

[Deuce Bigalow]

"Fat crater" :oldlol: :wtf:

[RRR3]

RG is a complete lunatic.
It's sad really. Must have 70+ accounts now.

[MiamiThrice]

Kobe averaged 8.0 rpg, Gasol 11.6
In the WCF, they both averaged 7.2 rpg

3.6 rebounds does not makes up for the 10 points in difference
and lol at Kobe averaging the same amount of rebounds as "dominant inside" Gasol in the WCF

I noticed you ignored my question asking if you've ever played basketball in your life. I will repeat the question. Have you ever played basketball before in your life? I would like to know your credentials, I know they are not very high.

Anyway Kobe was better in the WCFs, but we are speficially talking about the Finals. Check out WockaVodkas gamelogs too to see Gasol was better in every other series.

Considering Gasol shut down KG, was the best rebounder in a series where the team that won the rebounding battle won every game, and still put in 19 PPG on superior efficiency, it more than makes up for the 9-10 PPG.

[Deuce Bigalow]

He is fat and has a crater face. What is so confusing?


Yeah, but JVG wasn't a fat and a crater face like this RRR3 kid is.

RRR3

-Fat
-Crater Faced
-26 posts per day on ISH

Wonder what the correlation is.
RG talkin bout posts per day?
We talkin bout posts per day?
Not accounts, posts?
posts?

http://widget.uproxx.com/b/52/http://cdn.tss.uproxx.com/TSS/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/allen-iverson-practice.jpg

[Deuce Bigalow]

I noticed you ignored my question asking if you've ever played basketball in your life. I will repeat the question. Have you ever played basketball before in your life? I would like to know your credentials, I know they are not very high.

Anyway Kobe was better in the WCFs, but we are speficially talking about the Finals. Check out WockaVodkas gamelogs too to see Gasol was better in every other series.

Considering Gasol shut down KG, was the best rebounder in a series where the team that won the rebounding battle won every game, and still put in 19 PPG on superior efficiency, it more than makes up for the 9-10 PPG.
Noo. Never. I mean I'm on a basketball message board. What do you think?

Next time you go play basketball tell someone who knows the game that Pau was better than Kobe. I bet you'll get a good chuckle RG

[RRR3]

Someone post the pic RG posted of some black guy saying it was him :oldlol:

[MiamiThrice]

Noo. Never. I mean I'm on a basketball message board. What do you think?

Next time you go play basketball tell someone who knows the game that Pau was better than Kobe. I bet you'll get a good chuckle RG

What are your basketball credentials, this is the 2nd time the question was avoided.

Wait....let me guess. You just play a few times a month with the same 2-3 kids.....and your all asian :oldlol: with no experience of orgainzed ball. :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[Heavincent]

What are your basketball credentials, this is the 2nd time the question was avoided.

Wait....let me guess. You just play a few times a month with the same 2-3 kids.....and your all asian :oldlol: with no experience of orgainzed ball. :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

You always talk shit to other people on here, but lets see your basketball credentials, with proof.

[Deuce Bigalow]

What are your basketball credentials, this is the 2nd time the question was avoided.

Wait....let me guess. You just play a few times a month with the same 2-3 kids.....and your all asian :oldlol: with no experience of orgainzed ball. :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
I played basketball with the late great James Naismeth. I'm 85 btw, served in WWII so respect your elders kid and stop asking stupid questions. If you're going to ask me who's the GOAT? I have to say Mikan, nobody dominated like him.

[MiamiThrice]

You always talk shit to other people on here, but lets see your basketball credentials, with proof.

Looks like I hit this guy where it hurts with my guess. :oldlol: :oldlol:

I get the vibe that your some white emo kid though. Deuce at least plays with his friends, no matter how much they all suck. You probably havn't touched a basketball since middle school. :oldlol:


I played basketball with the late great James Naismeth. I'm 85 btw, served in WWII so respect your elders kid and stop asking stupid questions. If you're going to ask me who's the GOAT? I have to say Mikan, nobody dominated like him.

Yeah thats what I ****ing thought. Just another 130 pound messageboard warrior with no credentials.

[RRR3]

RG=talks shit about other people.


Afraid to post own pic. :roll:


Deuce and Heavincent, what do you think RG looks like? Obviously it's pretty bad. :lol

[Heavincent]

Looks like I hit this guy where it hurts with my guess. :oldlol: :oldlol:

I get the vibe that your some white emo kid though. Deuce at least plays with his friends, no matter how much they all suck. You probably havn't touched a basketball since middle school. :oldlol:

Good answer. Impressive basketball credentials. Thanks for the insight into all of the basketball experiences you have had throughout your life. Very interesting stuff.

[MiamiThrice]

Good answer. Impressive basketball credentials. Thanks for the insight into all of the basketball experiences you have had throughout your life. Very interesting stuff.

I'lll post pics of my all county awards, trophies, scholarship letters if you meet one criteria.

Post a pic of yourself with ANYTHING to show you have played the game.

The ball is in your court hun.

[Heavincent]

I'lll post pics of my all county awards, trophies, scholarship letters if you meet one criteria.

Post a pic of yourself with ANYTHING to show you have played the game.

The ball is in your court hun.

I asked first pal.

This whole thing can be over with if you just post all that shit right now. What's stopping you? Wouldn't you want to boast about all that stuff regardless? :confusedshrug:

[MiamiThrice]

I asked first pal.

This whole thing can be over with if you just post all that shit right now. What's stopping you? Wouldn't you want to boast about all that stuff regardless? :confusedshrug:

Yeah thats what I ****ing thought, this guy isn't going to post shit because he has nothing to post.

Lol prove myself to some little weasel that doesn't have an ounce of athletic ability in his bones? Nice try, if by some chance you have played I'm going to require that proof in order for me to throw my high-quality creditentials out on the net like this. I don't get out of bed for nobodies.

"No I asked you first!!!" Lol what a little weasel. Let me know how Kobes **** feels lodged in your throat bro. Inb4 Heavicent posts no proof.

[G-train]

I noticed you ignored my question asking if you've ever played basketball in your life. I will repeat the question. Have you ever played basketball before in your life? I would like to know your credentials, I know they are not very high.

Anyway Kobe was better in the WCFs, but we are speficially talking about the Finals. Check out WockaVodkas gamelogs too to see Gasol was better in every other series.

Considering Gasol shut down KG, was the best rebounder in a series where the team that won the rebounding battle won every game, and still put in 19 PPG on superior efficiency, it more than makes up for the 9-10 PPG.

If you understand the game so much why are you relying on gamelogs to make total judgement of a player in multiple series?

[RRR3]

RG spazzing out again. :roll: :roll: :roll: Wockavodka had me fooled for a while, though, RG may be getting craftier (scary thought! :eek: )

[Heavincent]

Yeah thats what I ****ing thought, this guy isn't going to post shit because he has nothing to post.

Lol prove myself to some little wiesel that doesn't have an ounce of athletic ability in his bones? Nice try, if by some chance you have played I'm going to require that proof in order for me to throw my high-quality creditentials out on the net like this. I don't get out of bed for nobodies.

"No I asked you first!!!" Lol what a little wiesel. Let me know how Kobes **** feels lodged in your throat bro. Inb4 Heavicent posts no proof.

You're not posting anything either. You think I'm just gonna take your word for your bullshit lies? :oldlol:

"High quality credentials". Get real :lol

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_CH_UxCyt3Ro/S_f_fmJ9dEI/AAAAAAAAA9I/yAEzYB2w1QY/s1600/internettoughguy.jpg

[BEAST Griffin]

This is retarded.

[RRR3]

RG is retarded.
:applause: :applause: :applause:

[MiamiThrice]

Inb4 Heavicent posts no proof.

Damn I'm too good.

And I have no problem posting my high-quality credentials as long as the guy asking has the balls to upload his own. However on this site full of 130 pound Kobetards that isn't very likely.

[RRR3]

Quit talking to yourself RG

[Heavincent]

Damn I'm too good.

And I have no problem posting my high-quality credentials as long as the guy asking has the balls to upload his own. However on this site full of 130 pound Kobetards that isn't very likely.

You're the one who claimed to be some superstar, not me. The burden of proof is on you, because you're the one who is supposedly a basketball guru with "high quality credentials". So lets see it buddy. Otherwise I'll just assume you're full of shit, which is probably the most likely scenario.

[Deuce Bigalow]

I'lll post pics of my all county awards, trophies, scholarship letters if you meet one criteria.

Post a pic of yourself with ANYTHING to show you have played the game.

The ball is in your court hun.
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/28103434.jpg

[RRR3]

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/28103434.jpg
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[MiamiThrice]

You're the one who claimed to be some superstar, not me. The burden of proof is on you, because you're the one who is supposedly a basketball guru with "high quality credentials". So lets see it buddy. Otherwise I'll just assume you're full of shit, which is probably the most likely scenario.

So you have no basketball credentials at all is what your saying?

[Deuce Bigalow]

http://i.qkme.me/3ra0av.jpg
Post a pic of yourself if you're going to make fun of how someone else looks.
Hold up a paper that says your username for proof it's you.

[Deuce Bigalow]

So you have no basketball credentials at all is what your saying?
What are you going to claim next? That you're 6'5 250 and can '**** shit up'?

[MiamiThrice]

I already posted a pic of myself on the post a pic of yourself thread. Feel free to post your own pic if you want me to post a pic of me holding a paper though.

These guys wont post their pics, hes probably an asian version of RRR3. :oldlol:

[RRR3]

RG claims this is him
https://twimg0-a.akamaihd.net/profile_images/2175325716/IMG00035.jpg


I have found who RG claims he is: https://twitter.com/brandon_neal


Lakers fan eh? :roll:

[Deuce Bigalow]

I already posted a pic of myself on the post a pic of yourself thread. Feel free to post your own pic if you want me to post a pic of me holding a paper though.
can you give me the link, that thread has like 400 pages.
Also, I'm not the one calling people a "crater face" :facepalm

[Heavincent]

So you have no basketball credentials at all is what your saying?

Nah dude, I've got them county trophies. Extremely high quality credentials if you ask me.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

RG claims this is him
https://twimg0-a.akamaihd.net/profile_images/2175325716/IMG00035.jpg


I have found who RG claims he is: https://twitter.com/brandon_neal


Lakers fan eh? :roll:

Exposed. :roll:

[RRR3]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A3zNg-FCIAAcV-D.jpg:large

[RRR3]

RG, according to your profile on Facebook you have diabetes and are from Kansas? Intredasting.

[WockaVodka]

RG claims this is him
https://twimg0-a.akamaihd.net/profile_images/2175325716/IMG00035.jpg


I have found who RG claims he is: https://twitter.com/brandon_neal


Lakers fan eh? :roll:
I appreciate Gasol leading my team to a title in 2010, what's the deal?

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

RG, according to your profile on Facebook you have diabetes and are from Kansas? Intredasting.

:oldlol: :oldlol: :roll:

LOL!!! I'm laughing my ass off right now.

[MiamiThrice]

Nah dude, I've got them county trophies. Extremely high quality credentials if you ask me.

Yeah I'll post my shit if you put a pic of yourself with any kind of trophy.

Once again the ball is in your court. And once again I predict that you come up short once again. :D

[RRR3]

I appreciate Gasol leading my team to a title in 2010, what's the deal?
Really? I doubt anyone who thinks this would be a mod on a Lakers forum. In fact, I'm sure of it. Nice try though. I wonder what Brandon Neal thinks of you claiming to be him? Maybe I should send him a message telling him some crazy kid with 70+ accounts on an NBA forum is pretending to be him.

[HardwoodLegend]

RG claims this is him
https://twimg0-a.akamaihd.net/profile_images/2175325716/IMG00035.jpg


I have found who RG claims he is: https://twitter.com/brandon_neal


Lakers fan eh? :roll:

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Deuce Bigalow]

I appreciate Gasol leading my team to a title in 2010, what's the deal?
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/706/539/102186478_display_image.jpg

The Real Finalz MVP :bowdown:

[RRR3]

"RG" tweet: http://ja.twitter.com/brandon_neal/status/192110410198036480


Damn posts completely different on ISH though

[Freedom Kid7]

I'll take Hal Greer. I mean, jesus he was a 10-time all star, excellent guard, great longevity, great teammate, had good stats, etc.

[Fudge]

RG :oldlol: :roll: How'd i miss all of this...

[HardwoodLegend]

From Brandon Neal's twitter:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Az6fSqNCYAAeoC3.jpg:large

"If he has V Lines, he can get the p." Ah yeaaaah buddy...still got em"

:roll:


RG :lol

[M.Bustly15A5RU8]

Kobe averaged 8.0 rpg, Gasol 11.6
In the WCF, they both averaged 7.2 rpg

3.6 rebounds does not makes up for the 10 points in difference
and lol at Kobe averaging the same amount of rebounds as "dominant inside" Gasol in the WCF

Pau Gasol averaged 5 offensive rebounds a game. Kobe Bryant grabbed mostly less meaningful defensive rebounds. Pau Gasol was also a very good defensive anchor.

The points he prevented as defensive anchor and offensive rebounds he grabbed > 10 points on a much higher volume of shots

[RRR3]

WockaVodka what football do you cheer for?

[RRR3]

You really are a bitch RG. Can't take what you dish out. Don't **** with me again you little ****.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Pau Gasol averaged 5 offensive rebounds a game. Kobe Bryant grabbed mostly less meaningful defensive rebounds. Pau Gasol was also a very good defensive anchor.

The points he prevented as defensive anchor and offensive rebounds he grabbed > 10 points on a much higher volume of shots
29-8-4-2-1 >

Won Finals MVP too and didn't disappear on the road like Pau.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Go back and watch game 5 and tell me who the MVP was. :facepalm at these Kobe haters. Still can't deal with the fact that he has 5 rings?

[RRR3]

Bitch please you have had over 50+ accounts on here, including at LEAST 3 active accounts. I wonder what Brandon Neal will say when I tell him you are pretending to be him?

[MiamiThrice]

Go back and watch game 5 and tell me who the MVP was. :facepalm at these Kobe haters. Still can't deal with the fact that he has 5 rings?

I watched Game 7.

6-24 shooting
:D :D :D :D :D

Luckily Gasol and Artest bailed his ass out.

[M.Bustly15A5RU8]

29-8-4-2-1 >

Won Finals MVP too and didn't disappear on the road like Pau.

Pau Gasol wasn't getting that Finals MVP unless he played like prime Wilt Chamberlain.

[RRR3]

Kansas

[Fudge]

Sorry, unlike you I'm not on this site all day.
Yeah you are. :oldlol:


I have a job and am a full-time student
No you dont.


so I'm somewhat busy unlike you. That is why I'm not averaging 26 posts per day.
Combine all of your accounts and you'd probably exceed 26 per day.

:oldlol:

[Freedom Kid7]

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/699/internet-serious-business.jpg
:facepalm

[Deuce Bigalow]

I watched Game 7.

6-24 shooting
:D :D :D :D :D

Luckily Gasol and Artest bailed his ass out.
Pau Game 7

6-16 FG
7-13 FT

Grabbed 18 rebounds and scored 9 in the 4th quarter. Kobe went to the line 15 times, went 11-15, grabbed 15 rebounds, and scored 10 in the 4th quarter.
You can probably say that Artest and Pau were the MVPs of that Game 7 and I won't disagree, but Kobe was MVP of Games 1-7, the Finals series.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Pau Gasol wasn't getting that Finals MVP unless he played like prime Wilt Chamberlain.
His 12 points in Game 5 really was dominant, so deserving of FMVP. Man he got robbed. I'm mad that Kobe got it :mad:

[M.Bustly15A5RU8]

Go back and watch game 5 and tell me who the MVP was. :facepalm at these Kobe haters. Still can't deal with the fact that he has 5 rings?

I can deal very well with the irrefutable objective fact that he has five rings.

[MiamiThrice]

Pau Game 7

6-16 FG
7-13 FT

Grabbed 18 rebounds and scored 9 in the 4th quarter. Kobe went to the line 15 times, went 11-15, grabbed 15 rebounds, and scored 10 in the 4th quarter.
You can probably say that Artest and Pau were the MVPs of that Game 7 and I won't disagree, but Kobe was MVP of Games 1-7, the Finals series.

Once again your a box score guy.

That entire series was won IN THE PAINT. Who was the one getting the huge rebounds IN THE PAINT, IN TRAFFIC? Who was the one bothering EVERY SHOT WITH THEIR LENGTH!

Pau Gasol

Kobe scored more PPg simply because of the sheer volume of shots he took, not very impressive. What is impressive is Gasols defense on Bostons best player(KG), Gasols assist-turnover ratio for a big which showed the offense was effectively when run through him, and his general superiority over every other big in that series.

Kobe with 15 rebounds in Game 7? Cool. Gasol with 18 rebounds and 8 fewer missed shots. :sleeping

[Deuce Bigalow]

Once again your a box score guy.

That entire series was won IN THE PAINT. Who was the one getting the huge rebounds IN THE PAINT, IN TRAFFIC? Who was the one bothering EVERY SHOT WITH THEIR LENGTH!

Pau Gasol

Kobe scored more PPg simply because of the sheer volume of shots he took, not very impressive. What is impressive is Gasols defense on Bostons best player(KG), Gasols assist-turnover ratio for a big which showed the offense was effectively when run through him, and his general superiority over every other big in that series.

Kobe with 15 rebounds in Game 7? Cool. Gasol with 18 rebounds and 8 fewer missed shots. :sleeping
You would have an argument if he averaged 15 rpg and 3 bpg, along with his points, but he didn't, sorry.

[Deuce Bigalow]

I can deal very well with the irrefutable objective fact that he has five rings.
and the irrefutable objective fact that he has two finals mvps, along with a league mvp, 10 all-nba first teams, 5th all-time leading scorer, and 3rd all-time leading playoff scorer.

[M.Bustly15A5RU8]

His 12 points in Game 5 really was dominant, so deserving of FMVP. Man he got robbed. I'm mad that Kobe got it :mad:

*insert cherry pick and pointless sarcastic drivel*

You're refuted. Damn that was easy.

[M.Bustly15A5RU8]

and the irrefutable objective fact that he has two finals mvps, along with a league mvp, 10 all-nba first teams, 5th all-time leading scorer, and 3rd all-time leading playoff scorer.

Absolutely. They're all irrefutable objective facts.

[jlip]

I watched Miller's entire career, and did not realize that his resume' (i.e. accomplishments and accolades) was so paltry. wow

[MiamiThrice]

You would have an argument if he averaged 15 rpg and 3 bpg, along with his points, but he didn't, sorry.

Yes because having a certain amount of spefiic numbers is the criteria. :oldlol:

****ing guy probably watches games with his calculators. Gasols dominance in the post is what got his team the series win and championship. That's what it comes down to. His numbers were good enough to win and he was the most instrumental player to his teams success.

[Velocirap31]

Back on task, I vote for TMac.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Yes because having a certain amount of spefiic numbers is the criteria. :oldlol:

****ing guy probably watches games with his calculators. Gasols dominance in the post is what got his team the series win and championship. That's what it comes down to. His numbers were good enough to win and he was the most instrumental player to his teams success.
Ok, cool. Believe that, but let us remember Alvin gentry after Game 6 of the WCF, "He's the best player in basketball right now, and I don't think it's close" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liKW_fyV-UQ)

Magic Johnson after Game 1 of the NBA Finals: "I apologize to Kobe, your still the best"
Magic Johnson after Game 7 of the NBA Finals: "World's greatest player right now" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZxIM2l6vJk)

[MiamiThrice]

Ok, cool. Believe that, but let us remember Alvin gentry after Game 6 of the WCF, "He's the best player in basketball right now, and I don't think it's close" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liKW_fyV-UQ)

Magic Johnson after Game 1 of the NBA Finals: "I apologize to Kobe, your still the best"
Magic Johnson after Game 7 of the NBA Finals: "World's greatest player right now" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZxIM2l6vJk)

Cool Magic Johnson one of the most biased opinions ever. Has he ever said anything bad about Kobe? Feel free to find any kind of negative criticism from him.

He even says in the video that Kobe had an up and down series and sucked for the first three quarters in Game 7 :oldlol: .

Kobe won the Finals MVP on name alone. Get over it.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Cool Magic Johnson one of the most biased opinions ever. Has he ever said anything bad about Kobe? Feel free to find any kind of negative criticism from him.

He even says in the video that Kobe had an up and down series and sucked for the first three quarters in Game 7 :oldlol: .

Kobe won the Finals MVP on name alone. Get over it.
No, he won Finals MVP because he was the leading scorer for the series, led his team in points, assists, steals, and was the 2nd leading rebounder for the series.

Get over that.

[MiamiThrice]

No, he won Finals MVP because he was the leading scorer for the series, led his team in points, assists, steals, and was the 2nd leading rebounder for the series.

Get over that.

Cool Gasol led his team in rebounds, blocks, win shares, PER, and was 2nd in points, assists, fg%. Selective stats bro, anyone can ****ing use it.

Your not going to convince anyone otherwise with your box score arguments.

[G.O.A.T]

I watched Miller's entire career, and did not realize that his resume' (i.e. accomplishments and accolades) was so paltry. wow

Had I not previously looked at his resume so much I'm sure I'd have had the same reaction.

Miller was not an elite player, but few have been on the edge of elite, with an elite skill, for so long. For the majority of that time he was fortunate enough to play with a capable supporting cast and the Pacers were quietly the second most successful Eastern Conference Franchise during the mid-late 1990's.

[M.Bustly15A5RU8]

Ok, cool. Believe that, but let us remember Alvin gentry after Game 6 of the WCF, "He's the best player in basketball right now, and I don't think it's close" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liKW_fyV-UQ)

Magic Johnson after Game 1 of the NBA Finals: "I apologize to Kobe, your still the best"
Magic Johnson after Game 7 of the NBA Finals: "World's greatest player right now" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZxIM2l6vJk)

Magic Johnson also said he hasn't seen a stretch of dominance like Dirk Nowitzki's in 2011 since Michael Jordan.

I'm sure you agree.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Cool Gasol led his team in rebounds, blocks, win shares, PER, and was 2nd in points, assists, fg%. Selective stats bro, anyone can ****ing use it.

Your not going to convince anyone otherwise with your box score arguments.
Pau did not lead the team in PER. Kobe did.

Kobe led the Lakers in Playoffs PER, and Finals PER.

[Legends66NBA7]

Had to sift through the thread, here's what the vote count is like:

Jerry Lucas - 6
Tracy McGrady - 6
Pau Gasol - 6
Pete Maravich - 2
Hal Greer - 1
Tony Parker - 1
Alonzo Mourning - 1

Posters who brought up names, but I won't really count them as a tally because they just argued why they should be over ____ players and ____ arbitrary number spot:

Kevin Johnson, Chris Webber (2x).

[G.O.A.T]

Jerry Lucas will be my vote

[v-unit]

Gasol - dominant international accomplishments, underrated player before LA, and helped Kobe and the Lakers get two championships.

[TheBigVeto]

Maravich

[1987_Lakers]

Jerry Lucas

[Boston C's]

Can I get like a 6 month notice next time we're gonna do this? I want to create 10 different accounts to hopefully balance out some of the "shepherded" votes where people see someone else vote for a recognizable of the only era they're familiar with, and think that has to be the best and most logical vote at that spot.


:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

definitely this...post of the night right here and nothin but the truth

[L.Kizzle]

Lucas

[Deuce Bigalow]

Had to sift through the thread, here's what the vote count is like:

Jerry Lucas - 6
Tracy McGrady - 6
Pau Gasol - 6
Pete Maravich - 2
Hal Greer - 1
Tony Parker - 1
Alonzo Mourning - 1

Posters who brought up names, but I won't really count them as a tally because they just argued why they should be over ____ players and ____ arbitrary number spot:

Kevin Johnson, Chris Webber (2x).
I counted 5 Pau Gasol votes at that point, now 6 after the vote after this post. Might have missed one I guess, or maybe I counted correctly.

Anyways, forgot to vote because the thread was hijacked...Jerry Lucas.